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RuddyWhittaker Martin Turner TierneyHowson FoxBennett Snodgrass PilkingtonHolt 4-2-3-1maybe getting a little ahead of myself, but I''d be well happy with Turner and Snoddy. Not so excited by Whittaker, but we shall see. [:)]

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I know Turner and Whittaker are good signings, but it''s a shame that were buying ''used up'' players and not going Lamberts way of getting young and hungry.

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[quote user="The ambassador"]I know Turner and Whittaker are good signings, but it''s a shame that were buying ''used up'' players and not going Lamberts way of getting young and hungry.[/quote]Interesting. I sort of agree re. Whittaker, but Turner is 28 (which is probably about prime for a CB), and what about Snodgrass and Butterfield? They young and hungry enough for ya? [;)]

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Vaughan? Bennett (R)? Ayala? Hoolahan? Surman? Morison? Makes the squad look pretty impressive IMHO.

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  Another possible line up -

               Ruddy

Whittaker Ayala Turner Tierney

Bennett Butterfield Howson Snodgrass

              Vaughan Holt

 

Kind of looks different look to last season, doesn''t it?

 

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And if Whittaker''s injury proves to be longer term, presumably you would be happy with Martin at RB and Bennett R with Turner? Or Ayala?

 

Oherwise I tend to agree, although we saw with the Diamond formation that the midfield can become narrow and under-staffed. I am not sure about Fox''s defensive capabilities, either. In time Butterfield will also be available as well. Will CH want to go with two specialist wingers, when Snodgrass can fulfill that role?

 

It''s a pity that our more creative players, Surs and Wes, are missing, but it all reveals our depth in midfield resources. We could be very direct, and good on the break either including them or in your selection.

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Really happy with the signings coming in atm, i think Turner is an improvement on what we have, improving the starting 11, as does Snodgrass. Whitaker and Butterfield greatly improve the 25 man squad as well. Tierney and Vaughan could be like new signings this season, so at the minute i am very happy and expecting to see a couple more signings still.
Here would be my line up at the minute
               Ruddy
Martin  Bennett  Turner  Tierney
      Howson   Johnson
Bennett  Snodgrass  Pilkington
  
               Holt
Think this would cause a lot of teams a lot of trouble, would be great to see Naughton in the line-up as well

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Well, snodgrass and butterfield are fair enough. But im just hoping we follow Lambert''s transfer policy. Im following the idea of ''If it ain''t broke it doesn''t need fixing''.

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That was Lambert''s transfer policy, how can you expect a new manager to come in and exactly replicate the previous regime? The only way it would stay they same, is if you had a head scout who does most of the player picking (like the Newcastle one appears to do).

Hughton has probably come in, looked at our squad, looked at what we lacked last season, and thinks a little extra experience is a great idea, we must have about 15-20 players ages 20-25, thats 15 or so players who have 10 or so years in them. If we just keep buying ''young and hungry'' players, do we get rid of the old young and hungry players? Because they are no longer young? We have a great base of players who will/can be here for years.

We haven''t suddenly stated buying old has beens on over the top wages, like Michael Owen and some over names mentioned. Turner and Whittaker are decent defenders with top flight experience, our defence was the weakest area last season. We have Ayala and Bennett as young CBs, Tierney and R.Martin aren''t exactly old, adding in some extra top flight experience in the form of Whittaker and Turner is a great idea, our defence was ''broken'' we can all say Bennett, Ayala, Whitbread, Tierney, R.Martin, Naughton, Drury were all good last season, but they weren''t good enough. I''m sure the lack of a constant back four contributed to our poor record. But if it were to be the same again, i''d rather it were a player with experience being thrown in, rather than someone who is ''hungry''.

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I may be wrong, but i''m pretty sure Mick Dennis confirmed in an article when Lambert left that the policy of buying young lower league talent was the boards. Obviously Lambert would have chosen the players he wanted, i''m not suggesting the board signed the players, but that it was their policy to focus on those players. Hence why we continue to pursue Snodgrass and have signed Butterfield.

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[quote user="Gingerpele"]That was Lambert''s transfer policy, how can you expect a new manager to come in and exactly replicate the previous regime? The only way it would stay they same, is if you had a head scout who does most of the player picking (like the Newcastle one appears to do).

Hughton has probably come in, looked at our squad, looked at what we lacked last season, and thinks a little extra experience is a great idea, we must have about 15-20 players ages 20-25, thats 15 or so players who have 10 or so years in them. If we just keep buying ''young and hungry'' players, do we get rid of the old young and hungry players? Because they are no longer young? We have a great base of players who will/can be here for years.

We haven''t suddenly stated buying old has beens on over the top wages, like Michael Owen and some over names mentioned. Turner and Whittaker are decent defenders with top flight experience, our defence was the weakest area last season. We have Ayala and Bennett as young CBs, Tierney and R.Martin aren''t exactly old, adding in some extra top flight experience in the form of Whittaker and Turner is a great idea, our defence was ''broken'' we can all say Bennett, Ayala, Whitbread, Tierney, R.Martin, Naughton, Drury were all good last season, but they weren''t good enough. I''m sure the lack of a constant back four contributed to our poor record. But if it were to be the same again, i''d rather it were a player with experience being thrown in, rather than someone who is ''hungry''.[/quote]

Fair enough. But im slightly worried that we may start to shift towards QPR a little bit and buy old has beens or even worse just spend lots of money on big names. All I pray for is that sense prevails and we can just buy the right players.

Call me paranoid.

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[quote user="The ambassador"]

Fair enough. But im slightly worried that we may start to shift towards QPR a little bit and buy old has beens or even worse just spend lots of money on big names. All I pray for is that sense prevails and we can just buy the right players. Call me paranoid.

[/quote]

 

 

Hi, para,

No fear, the club/board know what they are doing!!

 

 

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We have look like we are about to sign Snodgrass who is 24 and should improve. He also will want to prove himself at Premier League level. That is very much a Lambert style signing. As for Turner I think thats the kind of signing we actually need in central defence. You need a bit of experience in the right areas to complement younger players such as Ayala and Bennett. He is 28 as well so not exactly over the hill. You would expect at least 4 decent years out of him.

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Biggest problem appears to be accomodating all the good midfielders which i guess isn''t a bad problem to have and there will be some rotation/injuries anyway.

I thought Whittaker looked pretty good before he went off last night so hope his injury is not too bad.

In midfield hard to see how Bennett, Wes, Snodgrass, Butterfield and Pilks can all be accomodated in the same team so lets hope that none of them chuck their toys out of the pram if they are on the bench come the start of the season!

 

Ruddy

 

Whittaker Ayala Turner Tierney

 

Johnson Howson

 

Snodgrass Hoolahan Pilkington

 

Holt

 

Very harsh on Bennett, Surman, Butterfield, Morison, R Bennett and R Martin.

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If Howson can play the deeper role then i guess with five in midfield we could play:

 

Bennett/Wes Howson

Snodgrass Butterfield Pilkington

Holt

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Well he''s ahead of Martin in the Scotland team, and played CL football with Rangers. And Hughton has signed him, I personally expect him to be at least as good as what we''ve got, probably better.

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As I love technically gifted players....

 

Whittaker  Ayala  Bennett  Tierney

 

                     Howson

 

Snodgrass   Butterfield  Hoolahan  Pilkington

 

                         Holt

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Shifting toward QPR will mean signing injury prone has been a la Keiron Dyer who I understand got a contract extension from QPR after another injury hit season or has Hughes got rid?

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I would expect something like this:RuddyR.Martin  -  R.Bennett  -  Turner  -  TierneyE.Bennett  -  Howson  -  PilksSnodgrassHolt  -  VaughanWith Howson given more defensive and box-to-box duties a''la Alex Song at Arsenal and Snodgrass playing off the front two and dropping deeper when needed.I think R.Bennett will be given the nod over Ayala due to his more combative nature and the price we paid in Jan, but will be swapped for Ayala or R.Martin if he doesn''t perform whilst Whittaker will likely have to settle for a bench role to begin with but covering the full back slots where necessary.Hoolahan will likely be an impact sub, as will Moro although much of this will depend on Vaughan''s performances.It will however get very interesting when Butterfield is fit as the competition in midfield is going to be damn fierce.

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[quote user="Brendo"]RuddyWhittaker Martin Turner TierneyHowson FoxBennett Snodgrass PilkingtonHolt 4-2-3-1maybe getting a little ahead of myself, but I''d be well happy with Turner and Snoddy. Not so excited by Whittaker, but we shall see. [:)][/quote]I don''t see Fox in the starting eleven.

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I don''t know what ''used up'' means exactly when a player is 28?! Does that mean he''s just garbage from now on and going downhill?

 

Utter cr*p.

 

I wasn''t over the moon about Whittaker initially, but I think he''s got a chance to reach another level in a league much harder than the one he''s used to. I look at it like a step from the Championship where he''ll now be playing against top players consistently and it should improve him game and his fitness/sharpness etc. I hope he''s a player who proves everyone wrong like Russ did and most of the other players that have been given little chance of impressing. Holt was written off at every level pretty much and he''s now a beast - he wasn''t exactly young when we signed him either! I just think the step up can improve players and I''d like to see Whittaker play before writing him off at Championship level or whatever

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Tell you what, just reading through this thread and looking at all the options gets my stomach tingling with excitement. When you look at Howson and Bennet coming in last season, Holty staying, Snoddy on his way we are assembling a very competitive mid to upper table squad with potential to get better and better.  Tierny coming back and Vaughan who I think could be a revelation this season, bring it on!

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Have we ever had a squad of players that gets anywhere near the strength that we now have?

I think not!

If CH can get them playing together it could be a very interesting season.

Let''s remember it''s now a squad game and I can see many players being used depending upon the opposition and changes to tactics. The options open to the manager with a squad like this is just what we need.

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lads i really dont know what starting 11 ch is going to start with against fulham..here goes..

ruddy

martin bennett turner tierney

          johnson howson

pilks      hoolahan   snodgrass

                holt

 

but to be fair...its absolutely impossible to call....so many players you could have a case for to start...its really exciting times at carrow road!!!

 

     

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I have been trying to think of a first 11 for the past few hours... and gave up due to difficulty! The current midfield squad is fantastic and will ensure that no matter what team we field, we will always have some excellent options on the bench to switch things up.

Not a fan of one striker at all (especially at home), but with the number of high technically able attacking midfielder''s we possess I would not be against a front of...

Bennett/Snoddy/Pilks Wes/Snoddy/Butterfield/Pilks/Howson Pilks/Snoddy/Surman

Holt/Morison/Vaughan

I think the number of /''s i''ve used sums up how well I think we have the attacking midfield position covered now. Certainly very happy! S. Jackson certainly has a future here, but I can only see him being used in a front two personally. Maybe one new young/promising striker and certainly a left-back and I will be very content with the transfer window

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