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Kick Lambert out of hall of fame

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If he has resigned and walked out as indiciated in my opinion he is not worthy of a place in the hall of fame.....if he goes he goes but this is not the way to go about it

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But the fact will remain forever that he''s done more for the club than a lot of the people in the hall of fame. He''s easily the most successful manager in my lifetime.If you think he should be kicked out because of the way he goes about it, presumably you were protesting when he was first put in the hall of fame, because of how we recruited him

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No chance. Worked wonders with our club and without him we would have ended up in administration and in League 2.

As someone else said in another thread, if we were offered a manager while in League 1 who would get us promoted twice and then finish mid table in the Prem then move on we would all have bitten their hand off.

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[quote user="scrimmage"]No chance. Worked wonders with our club and without him we would have ended up in administration and in League 2. As someone else said in another thread, if we were offered a manager while in League 1 who would get us promoted twice and then finish mid table in the Prem then move on we would all have bitten their hand off.[/quote]

 

All true...my point is there are ways to behave and I do not think he has behaved in a professional manner, he just stated how he loves the club and then looks like he walks out.......this to me is a man with no integrity

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[quote user="St.John Cooper"]If he has resigned and walked out as indiciated in my opinion he is not worthy of a place in the hall of fame.....if he goes he goes but this is not the way to go about it[/quote] OH behave please he still took us from almost certain bankruptcy to the prem in 3years without his contribution god only knows what state we would be in now

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Gutted if hes gone and the manner of him leaving but the guy has done so much for this club over the last 3 seasons he deserves his place in the hall of fame!! lets face it where would we be now if he hadnt been at the helm? not in the premier league thats for sure. We will go on and prosper in Mcnally we trust OTBC!!!!

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[quote user="St.John Cooper"]

[quote user="scrimmage"]No chance. Worked wonders with our club and without him we would have ended up in administration and in League 2. As someone else said in another thread, if we were offered a manager while in League 1 who would get us promoted twice and then finish mid table in the Prem then move on we would all have bitten their hand off.[/quote]

 

All true...my point is there are ways to behave and I do not think he has behaved in a professional manner, he just stated how he loves the club and then looks like he walks out.......this to me is a man with no integrity

[/quote]He''s never said he loves the club. He said "I love it here if that''s what you''re asking". I know it''s a subtle difference but it''s quite a key one.Anyway, I refer you to the question I asked above, were you protesting on the same grounds when he was first entered into the hall of fame? Because we already knew all this, surely.

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[quote user="Buzz Killington"]Get a grip!! He''s been our most successful manager ever.[/quote]

well said sir! some people really do need to get a grip over this matter......nothing has been confirmed yet, when and if it does then good luck to him. We all know that we would struggle to keep hold of him. Most of our fans are happy when everything is plain sailing but once we get in a sticky situation all the idiots come out (the person who started this thread being one of them)..... ridiculous!!

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[quote user="Buzz Killington"]Get a grip!! He''s been our most successful manager ever.[/quote]

 

So what if he has....the guy from RBS was one of their most succesful for a time and then looked at what happened, you can not look at what he has done in the past but only how he behaves in the present and if any of you think this way about things is the right way then I am suprised

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[quote user="Buzz Killington"]Get a grip!! He''s been our most successful manager ever.[/quote]

 

Can you define this as I would say it is not the case, as we have finished a lot highter in the PL before?

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[quote user="judderman"][quote user="St.John Cooper"]

[quote user="scrimmage"]No chance. Worked wonders with our club and without him we would have ended up in administration and in League 2. As someone else said in another thread, if we were offered a manager while in League 1 who would get us promoted twice and then finish mid table in the Prem then move on we would all have bitten their hand off.[/quote]

 

All true...my point is there are ways to behave and I do not think he has behaved in a professional manner, he just stated how he loves the club and then looks like he walks out.......this to me is a man with no integrity

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He''s never said he loves the club. He said "I love it here if that''s what you''re asking". I know it''s a subtle difference but it''s quite a key one.

Anyway, I refer you to the question I asked above, were you protesting on the same grounds when he was first entered into the hall of fame? Because we already knew all this, surely.
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I did not protest as it made no diffence to me but I can understand why Colchester did!  All this talk that without him we would not be in the PL he is not the only good manager out there and to say we would not be where we are is nothing more than speculation...maybe we would have done even better under someone else, unlikely but you can not tell

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[quote user="St.John Cooper"]

[quote user="Buzz Killington"]Get a grip!! He''s been our most successful manager ever.[/quote]

 

So what if he has....the guy from RBS was one of their most succesful for a time and then looked at what happened, you can not look at what he has done in the past but only how he behaves in the present and if any of you think this way about things is the right way then I am suprised

[/quote]Well a lot of the people in the Hall of Fame are doing nothing in the present whatsoever, does that mean they should all be struck off. Of course you look at the past, that''s kind of that the Hall of Fame is about.Were you protesting what Lambert was put into the Hall of Fame?

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[quote user="judderman"]Were you protesting what Lambert was put into the Hall of Fame?[/quote]Sorry, you''ve answered that now!

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No way.

There is far too much bitterness at the moment. I think you need to consider how you have felt about PL over the last three years not the last three hours.

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If he''s going I''d rather it was sorted quickly so we could get a hungry manager such as Houghton in to plan for next season. As for players leaving I can''t see that unless some strong offers come in from other teams, this talk of players following managers out of clubs is ridiculous...a player on contract can''t just up and leave....at worst they will be sitting on the bench for an entire season when they refuse to play (seem to remember this happening at West Ham or Tottenham in the past with a player).

If Lambert is off then I say Good Luck and thanks for all the hard work you put in while you were here saving us from certain relegation to League 2 and possibly worse!

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My Ruddy M...I dont think so you see as i see it managers and players all want to sign new contracts...why bother they mean nothing just because he did a lot for us does not mean I have to think the way he has handled this is correct...perhaps my post is as idiotic as your user name at least I do not hide behind a name

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[quote user="Sussexyellow"]No way. There is far too much bitterness at the moment. I think you need to consider how you have felt about PL over the last three years not the last three hours.[/quote]

 

I loved Lambert over the last 3 years and he has done a fantastic job, however that is past....as of now he is behaving poorly and that is how I judge him now

 

Remember all who wanted Chase out or Delia out they did a good job for many years but things change you dont have to love someone for ever

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Good Manager yes , but to say a few days ago how happy he was here and how he felt wanted and had never asked to leave only to throw a hissy fit and storm out because he was not allowed to leave tells me that as a person he is a right son of a bitch .

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[quote user="Ncfc"]Good Manager yes , but to say a few days ago how happy he was here and how he felt wanted and had never asked to leave only to throw a hissy fit and storm out because he was not allowed to leave tells me that as a person he is a right son of a bitch .
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NCFC...SPOT ON

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This thread is ridiculous. We should also kick out all ex-players who moved on elsewhere, right? At this rate, we''ll end up with a HOF containing nobody other than Daryl Sutch, a player so cr4p that nobody wanted to buy him and only Boston Utd were prepared to take a punt on when he was released...

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Seriously?You are soiling yourself over something that allegedly happened, and was reported in The Sun.If I was Lambert I''d at least have a wee listen to what Villa have to say.

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[quote user="morty"]Seriously?

You are soiling yourself over something that allegedly happened, and was reported in The Sun.

If I was Lambert I''d at least have a wee listen to what Villa have to say.
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Morty

 

to be honest I am really calm about it, I just think its been handled very poorly

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[quote user="St.John Cooper"]

[quote user="morty"]Seriously?You are soiling yourself over something that allegedly happened, and was reported in The Sun.If I was Lambert I''d at least have a wee listen to what Villa have to say.[/quote]

 

Morty

 

to be honest I am really calm about it, I just think its been handled very poorly

[/quote]What has been handled poorly? Villa have made an approach, Lamberts representatives are going for talks.Nothing more than that.What has been handled badly, in your opinion?

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[quote user="morty"][quote user="St.John Cooper"]

[quote user="morty"]Seriously?

You are soiling yourself over something that allegedly happened, and was reported in The Sun.

If I was Lambert I''d at least have a wee listen to what Villa have to say.
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Morty

 

to be honest I am really calm about it, I just think its been handled very poorly

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What has been handled poorly? Villa have made an approach, Lamberts representatives are going for talks.

Nothing more than that.

What has been handled badly, in your opinion?
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Lambert saying he loves it here a few days ago...getting angry when asked about his position, for allegedly resigning  for the silence from the club, for Villa using the press to state their interest and for having a contract that clearly means nothing

Not handled badly...Villa formally ask to hold talks with lambert this takes place, he decides what he want to do the club keep us informed

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If what has been reported is true then the one thing that disappoints me is that, when Villa asked for permission to speak to Lambert, the club didn''t agree to it.

 

The "big" thing to do in such circumstances would be to give him permission but add that he was still wanted here and, after he had spoke to Villa, to sit down again with the Norwich board and reconcile the two-if he still wanted to go, then shake hands and do what needs to be done in a professional manner, if he has spoken to them and decided against it, then issue a statement to that effect and get on with the job in hand here.

 

He was always going to move on at some point in time-and rather now than January.

 

Martinez has been given permission by his Chairman to speak to other clubs, has done so and decided, after doing so, that the grass isn''t greener and stayed put. If Whelan had denied him permission to his face don''t you think Martinez might have considered walking, just as our (presumably) ex-Manager has done?

 

Its a bastard but thats football. Time to move on, get a better Manager onboard who sees NCFC as his career rather than a stepping stone, convince the existing players the same and, on that, get some new ones in. Club above all.

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[quote user="morty"][quote user="St.John Cooper"]

[quote user="morty"]Seriously?

You are soiling yourself over something that allegedly happened, and was reported in The Sun.

If I was Lambert I''d at least have a wee listen to what Villa have to say.
[/quote]

 

Morty

 

to be honest I am really calm about it, I just think its been handled very poorly

[/quote]

What has been handled poorly? Villa have made an approach, Lamberts representatives are going for talks.

Nothing more than that.

What has been handled badly, in your opinion?
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Why do you feel it has been handled well?

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[quote user="St.John Cooper"][quote user="morty"][quote user="St.John Cooper"]

[quote user="morty"]Seriously?You are soiling yourself over something that allegedly happened, and was reported in The Sun.If I was Lambert I''d at least have a wee listen to what Villa have to say.[/quote]

 

Morty

 

to be honest I am really calm about it, I just think its been handled very poorly

[/quote]What has been handled poorly? Villa have made an approach, Lamberts representatives are going for talks.Nothing more than that.What has been handled badly, in your opinion?[/quote]

 

Why do you feel it has been handled well?

[/quote]Nothing has been "handled"Theres nothing to see here, yet.Do you want Mcnally to come round your house and give you a cuddle, make it all better?I''ll wait for facts rather than Sun headlines before pushing my panic button.And chuck him out of the hall of fame? Behave.

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