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I had the pleasure of attending my 33rd Premier League match of the season at WHL on Monday and if it were not for such a cracker of a result I would have returned home with my head hanging in shame. Why?

Because some of our fans (I''m sure every club has them) were an absolute disgrace to the club. I truly hope the club is able to take note and ban these idiots as they are spoiling such days for others who know how to act like decent human beings.

I sat/stood in block 45, row 17 of the south upper at WHL and witnessed some horrible moments.

Yes it was slightly ridiculous that every 2 minutes a steward asked us to sit considering that every other ground bar maybe Stamford Bridge in parts was like this.

Unfortunately some of our ''fans'' here clearly cannot handle their shandy''s and acted like absolute morons. Unable to cope with being told to sit, scuffles broke out amongst fans and with stewards (who are only doing their job).

At one point a City ''fan'' standing in row 18, about seat 170 grabbed the bloke in front of him by the neck and was readily swinging full pelt in his face accusing him of being a Spurs fan and other ridiculous claims. Had this moron been competent enough to connect he would have probably sent the other guys teeth flying.

This was just one flash point of a first half I spent mostly trying to avoid being caught up in such nonsense and missing much of the match.

You lot are clearly a bunch of massive morons and hope I never have the displeasure of ever being anywhere near you again.

I have already voiced my displeasure to the powers that be within the club.

Why on the day of such a result must some of have to return home thinking of the morons that sometimes follow us and spoil our days out?

Grow up.

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The Cottage was fine, all fans there to have a good day out and get along. For some reason a group today were intent on being riled by the stewards and resorted on taking it on one another.

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Still our fans were loud today and therefore i support any fans who make that king of atmosphere. Don''t be such a baby

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Nige what did you see that is such a disgrace then? I think the fact we have less wig wearers than last time we were in the prem shows that not only have the players, manager, board got more backbone but so do the fans

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BW you total muppet. I am dismayed as I witnessed fellow City fans gamely swinging at each others faces with total disregard to those around, young children and old ladies alike. Morons.

I was impressed by our noise at WHL however it was non louder nor more impressive than any other away match this season. WHL owing to its design and somewhat passive home support means that we perhaps sounded louder than has been noticed before.

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Whatever are you running on about BW? What''s with all this "wig wearers"?

 

The guy has stated in his opening post that he was in the upper tier. Have you ever been to White Heart Lane?

 

 

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I was shocked to see the thread title as the away fans seemed to out-sing the home fans most of the game. Could hear On the Ball City ring out clear as day every time it was sang!

There''s been a few stories on here before about away fans. Don''t ruin our credible reputation, and the day for others!

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The fans were terrific AJ. Like always. But Brighton is referring to specific issues related to being in the upper tier.

 

 

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I was just in front of you in block 45, row 14. Saw all the commotion obviously but had missed what actually went on as it happened behind me. Wasn''t a fan of the persistent stewarding personally - been to all PL away games this season bar Wolves, Swansea and Sunderland and it was the first time anywhere I''ve had to sit down for parts of the match, not ideal when it''s as exciting as today! - but the stewards seemed fairly reasonable so no need for flashpoints like the above if true.

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I was in the lower tier at WHL and right next to the Spurs fans (row 8); there were only 2 blanked rows of seats between us (and a metal bar) and apart from always being told to sit down, the banter was well natured. We were even chatting with them at half time and one guy from the Norwich seats clearly had a Spurs mate in the home seats and went over and chatted with him. Of course they were taking the mick out of each other but it was very funny and well natured. Even the Mrs. commented on how good natured it was !!

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I thought it was on one of the highlight clips I saw, but I can''t find it.  So it must have been on the stream I was watching, I am certain at one point you could see a steward grappling with one of our fans.  I remember thinking at the time it was a bit unusual.  Didn''t see anything like that at Newcastle.

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Drunk men at footballl arguing with stewards? Heaven forbid. Nearly every group of away fans at car row road has someone that gets kicked out.

Idiots? Yes. Absolute disgrace? Not really.

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To be fair Hogesar, grabbing someone around the neck and swinging for them is a bit of a disgrace regardless of how many lemonades you''ve had.

I''ve been to away games and stood next to people who are funny drunk, drunk and talking some complete and utter rubbish, annoying drunk, even getting a bit verbally abusive towards others at times. All of those you can put up with. But if someone is grabbing you around the neck and swinging for you then it''s a different matter.

As said above - I wouldn''t want this to detract from the amazing away support we''ve had for quite a few seasons now, but you do still get some certain individual incidents that aren''t acceptable at a football ground. It''s nothing to do with "wig wearers" either BW (whatever you mean by that), it''s to do with going out in public and not being grabbed round the neck and swung at surely!

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Disgracefull like you say, I enjoyed the match on telly, but have had the displeasure of sitting among them on away games this season... I''d nearly put a bet on them not being there when we were in league 1, just morons ie not true fans imo. But they are in the minority I feel, most of our fans are still among the greatest! OTBC

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Not the first time this season, was bad at Craven Cottage, one man came down to the front where I was sitting complaining that one of our idiots had been sick all over his and his kids seats, also his kids could''nt see due to standing, this was his childrens first time watching city

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I was in Block 45 so didn''t know what had happened, other than that there was a commotion. I was told at halftime that a Spurs fan sitting in our sectin had been thrown out, but I now understand that it wasn''t the case. The stewarding was over officious, but they were pleasant enough and obviously only following orders.

It''s sad if City fans were fighting amongst themselves, but it does appear to be an isolated incident. sadly there are always going to be a few idiots (like the drunken fool next to me who greeted Morison''s first touch with "Sort yourself out you lazy Welsh cunt!") but generally I thought our support was superb as ever.

 

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Good to hear stewards finally making fans sit down as I''m sick to death of going to away games with my nine year old and him having to stand precariously on the flip up seats just to be able to see any of the action.

Anytime I ask the stewards about it they just say there''s nothing they can do, which is probably true unless the clubs really get behind them by imposing a policy of ejecting fans one by one if they don''t sit down from the off - starting on the front row.

Yes it''s a better atmosphere when you stand up but only if you''re five and a half feet tall or more. I loved the old Barclay when the terrace was in place and you could stand with groups of mates without a massive effort at organisation to coordinate seats, but it''s a long time ago now and time people accepted that we now have all seater stadia and you''ve got to put your backsides on those crappy lumps of plastic.

Clearly we don''t have the same problem at home because we can elect to go somewhere other than the Barclay lower but away games can be a real pain for families. I''ve even been to away games near the front where most people are sat down except a couple of drongos, blokes in their 40s and 50s who still think they''re 15, stood up in isolation knowing full well people are sat down behind them. Jesus, just put the same principled determination into campaigning for standing sections in each ground and you might actually get what you''re after.

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[quote user="The 12th Devine"]Good to hear stewards finally making fans sit down as I''m sick to death of going to away games with my nine year old and him having to stand precariously on the flip up seats just to be able to see any of the action. Anytime I ask the stewards about it they just say there''s nothing they can do, which is probably true unless the clubs really get behind them by imposing a policy of ejecting fans one by one if they don''t sit down from the off - starting on the front row. Yes it''s a better atmosphere when you stand up but only if you''re five and a half feet tall or more. I loved the old Barclay when the terrace was in place and you could stand with groups of mates without a massive effort at organisation to coordinate seats, but it''s a long time ago now and time people accepted that we now have all seater stadia and you''ve got to put your backsides on those crappy lumps of plastic. Clearly we don''t have the same problem at home because we can elect to go somewhere other than the Barclay lower but away games can be a real pain for families. I''ve even been to away games near the front where most people are sat down except a couple of drongos, blokes in their 40s and 50s who still think they''re 15, stood up in isolation knowing full well people are sat down behind them. Jesus, just put the same principled determination into campaigning for standing sections in each ground and you might actually get what you''re after.[/quote]

 

This is a tricky one - I really enjoy being able to stand at away games.  This season I''ve been to Man U, Man C, Stoke, QPR, West Brom, Sunderland, Newcastle, Fulham and Spurs so far, last year I made 11 away games, and yesterday was the first time in ages the stewards tried to get the away fans to sit down.  I was in block 45 row 14 and spent most of the game sitting although the people behind me were mainly standing.  It was irritating that the stewards spent quite a lot of time walking up and down the gangway, blocking my view, even when fans weren''t standing in that part.  To be fair, after this was pointed out they did it a lot less.

 

On the OPs point, I didn''t see the fracas just the guy getting escorted out.  But everyone should be clear this was just an isolated incident.

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As always it just seems to be pot luck when you go to a match......I was in the Upper Tier Block 47 and noticed that the stewards in Block 45 seemed to be spending a lot of time trying to get people to sit down. There didn''t seem to be any stewards in our block but that might be because for some reason most of us in Block 47 seemed content to sit down.I was talking to a copper at half-time and he said that three people had been thrown out of the ground. He claimed that a Spurs fan was sitting in the away section with his Norwich mate and it all went a bit lairy when Tottenham scored. The result was that two City fans and the Spurs guy were bundled out.To be honest persistent standing in the Upper Tier stone cold sober would have been tricky. The seat rake is very steep and there''s precious little leg room too.Anyone contemplating having a skinful before next year''s encounter might well be a lot safer on the Lower Tier.....

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Surely we are all getting a bit carried away.  It''s football, not opera.  Blokes do go to the pub and have a few beers before the game.  A lively atmosphere is always going to have a few commotions - all part and parcel.  Let''s not sanitise football too much, eh?

As for making everyone sit down because someone takes their kid - ridiculous

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sadly with being in the premierleague and with travelling to certain places the club will attract a new type of "fan" whether these people are city fans, or even come from Norwich is open to debate... some come just for trouble.Coming out of Poorman road a few years ago after Hucks scored and we beat them 1-0 there were a group of fans singing a "norwich" song.. (which i certainly have never heard before) in scouse accents.. when the Ipswich fans didnt engage them in combat they jumped on a train heading North never to be seen again....

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[quote user="......and Smith must score."]As always it just seems to be pot luck when you go to a match......

I was in the Upper Tier Block 47 and noticed that the stewards in Block 45 seemed to be spending a lot of time trying to get people to sit down. There didn''t seem to be any stewards in our block but that might be because for some reason most of us in Block 47 seemed content to sit down.

I was talking to a copper at half-time and he said that three people had been thrown out of the ground. He claimed that a Spurs fan was sitting in the away section with his Norwich mate and it all went a bit lairy when Tottenham scored. The result was that two City fans and the Spurs guy were bundled out.

To be honest persistent standing in the Upper Tier stone cold sober would have been tricky. The seat rake is very steep and there''s precious little leg room too.

Anyone contemplating having a skinful before next year''s encounter might well be a lot safer on the Lower Tier.....


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Smithy, I was in 47 too. Row 16. In general the stewarding was good which is probably why most folk sat down. When I arrived all the people I went with had tickets in the lower tier but mine was in the upper. My mate offered to swap but I didn''t think that was fair. So as we were at the stadium in good time I joined the queue for the upper tier. Immediately a nice blonde stewardess offered to take me up in the lift[H] Then I was confronted with the steep steps up the centre aisle which I found really difficult. Having eventually made it to row 16 I knew I wouldn''t be able to descend by the same route but after a quick look around I realised that the steps down, beside the Spurs fans, would give me a rail all the way back down. (I wish the steward had directed me up that way instead of watching me struggle). Now when the game kicked off there were some behind me who insisted on standing and there was confrontation with the stewards. But the stewards, to their credit, patiently explained the reason for keeping fans seated in the upper tier. It was, just as you say Smiffy, a safety issue. They explained it was enforced because of the gradient and that all the Spurs fans were also forced to sit. I think it was because of this reasonable communication that we spent most of the game sat down.

 

The 12th Devine also makes a valid point and I really can''t go with Dicky''s reply. Why would allowing a child to watch the game his father has paid to take him to be "sanitising football" ? Maybe some of you others on this thread could answer something that I have been unable to understand for years. Why do so many fans behave differently away from home than they do at Carrow Road. This isn''t a criticism BTW. I love the atmosphere at away games.

 

 

 

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[quote user="nutty nigel"]

[quote user="......and Smith must score."]As always it just seems to be pot luck when you go to a match......I was in the Upper Tier Block 47 and noticed that the stewards in Block 45 seemed to be spending a lot of time trying to get people to sit down. There didn''t seem to be any stewards in our block but that might be because for some reason most of us in Block 47 seemed content to sit down.I was talking to a copper at half-time and he said that three people had been thrown out of the ground. He claimed that a Spurs fan was sitting in the away section with his Norwich mate and it all went a bit lairy when Tottenham scored. The result was that two City fans and the Spurs guy were bundled out.To be honest persistent standing in the Upper Tier stone cold sober would have been tricky. The seat rake is very steep and there''s precious little leg room too.Anyone contemplating having a skinful before next year''s encounter might well be a lot safer on the Lower Tier.....

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Smithy, I was in 47 too. Row 16. In general the stewarding was good which is probably why most folk sat down. When I arrived all the people I went with had tickets in the lower tier but mine was in the upper. My mate offered to swap but I didn''t think that was fair. So as we were at the stadium in good time I joined the queue for the upper tier. Immediately a nice blonde stewardess offered to take me up in the lift[H] Then I was confronted with the steep steps up the centre aisle which I found really difficult. Having eventually made it to row 16 I knew I wouldn''t be able to descend by the same route but after a quick look around I realised that the steps down, beside the Spurs fans, would give me a rail all the way back down. (I wish the steward had directed me up that way instead of watching me struggle). Now when the game kicked off there were some behind me who insisted on standing and there was confrontation with the stewards. But the stewards, to their credit, patiently explained the reason for keeping fans seated in the upper tier. It was, just as you say Smiffy, a safety issue. They explained it was enforced because of the gradient and that all the Spurs fans were also forced to sit. I think it was because of this reasonable communication that we spent most of the game sat down.

 

The 12th Devine also makes a valid point and I really can''t go with Dicky''s reply. Why would allowing a child to watch the game his father has paid to take him to be "sanitising football" ? Maybe some of you others on this thread could answer something that I have been unable to understand for years. Why do so many fans behave differently away from home than they do at Carrow Road. This isn''t a criticism BTW. I love the atmosphere at away games.

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Ah Nutty, I''m glad you explained about the safety issue and why most of us in Block 47 were pretty content to remain seated. I did notice that the Spurs fans to our left were all seated too. A pity more City fans in Block 45 couldn''t see it that way too.....

I was in Row 15, seat 257 so must have been fairly close to you and Graham Humphrey. Access to these stratospheric stands is a problem to those not so light on their feet and it must have taken a bit of gloss off the day for you ( not too much I hope considering the fantastic performance that followed ).

I''ve been to Newcastle and used the stairs there, although, understandably, I believe there are lifts. Many years ago I sat in the East Stand at Chelsea and that was a mission up the stairs too.

Interestingly Man Utd this Saturday are trialling a new away fans arrangement for their game with Villa when the Villa fans they will be relocated to the '' nosebleed '' 3rd tier of the Sir Alex Ferguson Stand ( facing the TV cameras ) They claim that home fans miss out on tickets as the present away corner section isn''t always full. Although it doesn''t seem to affect their team''s results at all I suspect they also want to reduce the decibel levels of noisy away fans. I believe the distance from the top of the SAF Stand to the pitch is the longest in British football so the away supporters might soon just as well be shouting from a mountain top at a Subbuteo game. I''ll bet the current £35 they charge for those seats will be heading skywards too.

Man Utd say that if the trial is ''successful '' the new arrangement will come into force at the start of next season. Take that as a given then.

Best hope the lifts are working, Nutty, but just in case they stop working during the match don''t forget to bring your parachute....

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Nige your just enhancing my point that these grown men look like utter clowns, i hope you don''t do it and anyone on hear reading if you are over the age of 10 grow up and watch football like it should be not some party. That goes to snakepit girl too you must be getting a bit old for it all now? I know you like being on the end of season review every year but we don''t want to see it.

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Just a few points to make:

1, I agree Norwich Fans laying into Norwich Fans is a disgrace.

2, Steward baiting is all part of the fun at football matches.

3, Someone being sick over your seat at a match is unfortunate, it''s not a hanging offence.

4, It''s well known that the majority of fans will be standing at an away match so if you are taking youngsters you could ask the club for tickets towards the front of the stand where the majority of people who sit tend to congregate, I don''t know if the club would do that but it would be worth trying.

5, IMO the reason people behave differently at away games is probably a combination of 2 things, away games are an all day event when travelling is included and you have a concentration of supporters in a small area who want to stand and be vocal where at Carrow Road they are spread around the ground.

6, BW what is wrong with with our wig wearing fans? Personally I don''t want to wear a wig, I''m quite content wearing my shirt but can accept that people can wear what they want, up until a few weeks ago I lived oposite the daughter of the older guy who is quite often pictured wearing the green and yellow spikey wig, she was telling me that he is a home and away season ticket holder and goes to all the preseason games so who are you to tell him what he can and can''t wear?

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[quote user="Canary Wundaboy"]Didn''t see anything of the sort at Craven Cottage last week....utterly disgraceful if true.[/quote]I did see one guy punch another one during half-time at the cottage. Not entirely sure why but it was a pretty solid connection. Apart from that everyone seemed to be on their best behaviour.

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[quote user="Canarykeg"][quote user="Canary Wundaboy"]Didn''t see anything of the sort at Craven Cottage last week....utterly disgraceful if true.
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I did see one guy punch another one during half-time at the cottage. Not entirely sure why but it was a pretty solid connection. Apart from that everyone seemed to be on their best behaviour.
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The bigger bloke had called the smaller bloke''s girlfriend a slag because she was smoking.  Smaller bloke landed a corker on him - totally deserved in my opinion.  Bigger bloke looked all embarassed and tried to get the stewards involved.  All good wholesome fun ;-)

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I didn''t move from my seat at the break at Craven Cottage. Being 2-0 down having only been attacked seemingly twice made me livid! I didn''t see any problems and was surounded by a large amount of supporters from Belgium, but i couldn''t tell what team they supported. if any.

I was in the ''neutral'' bit though which was about 90% Norwich from what i could see. I didn''t see a Steward say or do anything all game. Don''t understand why there would be a problem amongst our fans,however i went to see an NFL game in New York and it seems alot of the NY giants fans don''t like each other.Saw 2 fights, and all you can drink there is bud light. and it stops at the beginning of the 3rd quarter.crazyiness.

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