Latest from Paul Lambert's press conference

[Pete Raven 276]

From our Paddy...Ayala and Tierney poised to return to training next week.Howson back in the mix for Sunday.

[shefcanary 2,393]

Shame Ayala not ready to replace Wardy yet.  Should Lambert try out Bennett at St James'' Park - sorry Sports Direct Arena?

[Old Shuck 183]

Good news all round.

Wonder if Howson will play? Might be just the game for him-suspect Wes might miss out.

Two wingers and Holt/Moro in tandem perhaps?

[Canaries Utd 0]

Nothing on Vaughan???

[GJP 79]

[quote user="shefcanary"]Shame Ayala not ready to replace Wardy yet.   [/quote]

Not much of a difference is there?

 

Both good on the ball but both shakey defensively.

[Pete Raven 276]

[quote user="Canaries Utd"]Nothing on Vaughan???[/quote]Still on road to recovery...

[First Wizard 0]

[quote user="GJP"]

[quote user="shefcanary"]Shame Ayala not ready to replace Wardy yet.   [/quote]

Not much of a difference is there?

 

Both good on the ball but both shakey defensively.

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Ayala is far quicker though.

[Jim Smith 2,317]

Amazed at how quickly people seem to have forgotten how good Ayala looked when he came into the side. Ok he gave a few stupid fouls away but he looked like a potential £10m player in the making. Ward is decent enough but Ayala looked much better and we as a unit looked much more solid. In recent weeks we have gone back to looking much scarily open at the back. Thats not all down to Ward (formations/tactics to blame as well) but for me the Whitbread/Ayala combination was the best we''ve had this season by a long shot.

[GJP 79]

[quote user="First Wizard"][quote user="GJP"]

[quote user="shefcanary"]Shame Ayala not ready to replace Wardy yet.   [/quote]

Not much of a difference is there?

 

Both good on the ball but both shakey defensively.

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Ayala is far quicker though.

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Perhaps. Though that suggests Ayala is very pacey, which he''s not. But he is probably bit more mobile than Ward who can be a bit cumbersome.

 

I''d probably back Ward over Ayala to win a header though.

 

 

[GJP 79]

[quote user="Jim Smith"]Amazed at how quickly people seem to have forgotten how good Ayala looked when he came into the side. Ok he gave a few stupid fouls away but he looked like a potential £10m player in the making. Ward is decent enough but Ayala looked much better and we as a unit looked much more solid. In recent weeks we have gone back to looking much scarily open at the back. Thats not all down to Ward (formations/tactics to blame as well) but for me the Whitbread/Ayala combination was the best we''ve had this season by a long shot.[/quote]

Amazed at how very little it takes for seem to get carried away by a player.

 

I mean, yes, Ayala looks great on the ball but in his 9 (just 9) appearances for Norwich he''s looked dodgy defensively. Not just giving away silly fouls and a penalty but also making a mess of defending basic situations.

 

Whitbread has been on outstanding form and I can''t help but think that the quality of his performances have made Ayala''s look more favourable than they perhaps have been in reality.

 

I think there is potential for Ayala if he sorts himself out defensively because obviously he is very impressive with the ball at his feet but I think we are a very, very long way off talking about a £10m player.

[GJP 79]

[quote user="GJP"]

Amazed at how very little it takes for seem* [/quote]

*some

[JKUIL 0]

[quote user="Sports Desk Pete"][quote user="Canaries Utd"]Nothing on Vaughan???[/quote]Still on road to recovery...[/quote]

Very sad that Vaughan is so injury prone but what a ridiculous decision it was to buy him. Everton must have laughed all the way to the bank.

[Canaries Utd 0]

[quote user="Sports Desk Pete"][quote user="Canaries Utd"]Nothing on Vaughan???[/quote]Still on road to recovery...[/quote]Do we know what he is recovering from Pete?

[Gingerpele 0]

So Ayala is rubbish, Ward is rubbish, Vaughan is useless, anyone else we can write off in this thread?

[Dungcan Deadwoods 0]

[quote user="Al Catraz"][quote user="Sports Desk Pete"][quote user="Canaries Utd"]Nothing on Vaughan???[/quote]Still on road to recovery...[/quote]

Very sad that Vaughan is so injury prone but what a ridiculous decision it was to buy him. Everton must have laughed all the way to the bank.[/quote]A calculated risk, but these sick note players seldom reach their initial potential once crocked.

[Pete Raven 276]

[quote user="Canaries Utd"][quote user="Sports Desk Pete"][quote user="Canaries Utd"]Nothing on Vaughan???[/quote]Still on road to recovery...[/quote]Do we know what he is recovering from Pete?[/quote]Hamstring.

[Lets be aving you! 0]

"So Ayala is rubbish, Ward is rubbish, Vaughan is useless, anyone else we can write off in this thread?"

 

Lambert. Not won in three. Relegation form in anyone''s book.

[GJP 79]

[quote user="Gingerpele"]So Ayala is rubbish, Ward is rubbish, Vaughan is useless, anyone else we can write off in this thread?[/quote]

Jeez, don''t get your knickers in a twist.

 

Nobody said anything about any of them being rubbish or useless.

[Jim Smith 2,317]

[quote user="GJP"]

[quote user="Jim Smith"]Amazed at how quickly people seem to have forgotten how good Ayala looked when he came into the side. Ok he gave a few stupid fouls away but he looked like a potential £10m player in the making. Ward is decent enough but Ayala looked much better and we as a unit looked much more solid. In recent weeks we have gone back to looking much scarily open at the back. Thats not all down to Ward (formations/tactics to blame as well) but for me the Whitbread/Ayala combination was the best we''ve had this season by a long shot.[/quote]

Amazed at how very little it takes for seem to get carried away by a player.

 

I mean, yes, Ayala looks great on the ball but in his 9 (just 9) appearances for Norwich he''s looked dodgy defensively. Not just giving away silly fouls and a penalty but also making a mess of defending basic situations.

 

Whitbread has been on outstanding form and I can''t help but think that the quality of his performances have made Ayala''s look more favourable than they perhaps have been in reality.

 

I think there is potential for Ayala if he sorts himself out defensively because obviously he is very impressive with the ball at his feet but I think we are a very, very long way off talking about a £10m player.

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You will have to point me in the direction of all these basic situations he made a mess of then because aside from the penalty at West Brom and a couple of free kicks given away at QPR and at home to Fulham i can''t really remember him making any other mistakes and I thought his reading of the game and composure was generally excellent. His performance at QPR in particular was terrific.

[Gingerpele 0]

[quote user="GJP"]

[quote user="Gingerpele"]So Ayala is rubbish, Ward is rubbish, Vaughan is useless, anyone else we can write off in this thread?[/quote]

Jeez, don''t get your knickers in a twist.

 

Nobody said anything about any of them being rubbish or useless.

[/quote]

I wasn''t getting my knickers in a twist?

[GJP 79]

[quote user="Jim Smith"][quote user="GJP"]

[quote user="Jim Smith"]Amazed at how quickly people seem to have forgotten how good Ayala looked when he came into the side. Ok he gave a few stupid fouls away but he looked like a potential £10m player in the making. Ward is decent enough but Ayala looked much better and we as a unit looked much more solid. In recent weeks we have gone back to looking much scarily open at the back. Thats not all down to Ward (formations/tactics to blame as well) but for me the Whitbread/Ayala combination was the best we''ve had this season by a long shot.[/quote]

Amazed at how very little it takes for seem to get carried away by a player.

 

I mean, yes, Ayala looks great on the ball but in his 9 (just 9) appearances for Norwich he''s looked dodgy defensively. Not just giving away silly fouls and a penalty but also making a mess of defending basic situations.

 

Whitbread has been on outstanding form and I can''t help but think that the quality of his performances have made Ayala''s look more favourable than they perhaps have been in reality.

 

I think there is potential for Ayala if he sorts himself out defensively because obviously he is very impressive with the ball at his feet but I think we are a very, very long way off talking about a £10m player.

[/quote]

 

You will have to point me in the direction of all these basic situations he made a mess of then because aside from the penalty at West Brom and a couple of free kicks given away at QPR and at home to Fulham i can''t really remember him making any other mistakes and I thought his reading of the game and composure was generally excellent. His performance at QPR in particular was terrific.

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Tricky thing to do really when we''re not sitting there watching the game together and his last appearance was a few weeks ago anyway.

 

Before he went off injured in the Bolton game there was a couple of mistakes. For example, I think he missed a routine header because he got caught under the ball and then struggled to recover form it. Pretty sure in the Sunderland game didn''t do a great job of defending the 3rd goal.

 

It''s all a bit like Michael Spillane to me. He was touted by many Norwich fans as being a great defender, probably because they saw him win unchallenged headers and jump into a few tackles and little things like that can impress. Where''s he now? Firmly rooted to the bottom of League 2 with D&R.

 

Now, Ayala is obviously a vastly superior player. He has got some ability, he has got some potential and he could well go on to be a good player for Norwich. But, much with Spillane, it seems that a little has gone a long way.

 

Ayala is really good on the ball but if he doesn''t improve the defensive side of the game then, long term, he will not make it as a regular first choice defender in the Premier League. If his defending does come on a long way then he could be a real good player.

[JKUIL 0]

[quote user="Lambert is god"]

"So Ayala is rubbish, Ward is rubbish, Vaughan is useless, anyone else we can write off in this thread?"

 

Lambert. Not won in three. Relegation form in anyone''s book.

[/quote]

??? Why did you post this ?

[norfolkbroadslim 223]

[quote user="Al Catraz"][quote user="Lambert is god"]

"So Ayala is rubbish, Ward is rubbish, Vaughan is useless, anyone else we can write off in this thread?"

 

Lambert. Not won in three. Relegation form in anyone''s book.

[/quote] ??? Why did you post this ?[/quote]

 

??? Why did you post this^?

[Lets be aving you! 0]

It''s called irony, Al Catraz. Especially given my user name.

 

Suggests that maybe I think the players quoted are actually pretty good, which happens to be my view.

[JKUIL 0]

[quote user="Lambert is god"]

It''s called irony, Al Catraz. Especially given my user name.

 

Suggests that maybe I think the players quoted are actually pretty good, which happens to be my view.

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And there was me thinking it was just plain old irrelevancy.

[Gingerpele 0]

What has relevance got to do with anything? This is an internet forum, not a UN conference to sort out a world wide recession. There is absolutely nothing wrong with people posting irrelevant/sarcastic/less than serious stuff on here, its not important.

[Wings of a Sparrow 1,413]

[quote user="Gingerpele"]What has relevance got to do with anything? This is an internet forum, not a UN conference to sort out a world wide recession. There is absolutely nothing wrong with people posting irrelevant/sarcastic/less than serious stuff on here, its not important.[/quote]

[Lets be aving you! 0]

Thanks, Gingerpele.

 

Some people seem to take life, and this forum, way too seriously at times.

[Wings of a Sparrow 1,413]

No idea what happened there.

[marvin the martian 0]

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