65Vintage 5 Posted January 14, 2012 We are doing so well this season, not that I didn''t think we would do, I think we just surprised everyone who had not followed our fortunes closely - particularly the so called pundits.Just wondered how many points people think we will need to be safe this season? The points needed to avoid relegation, from 2004/05 onwards were: 2004/05 34 points 2005/06 35 points 2006/07 38 points 2007/08 36 points 2008/09 35 points 2009/10 31 points 2010/11 40 points 2011/12 ?? points Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AJ 1,218 Posted January 14, 2012 Anything above 40 will see us safe imo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary Wundaboy 1,359 Posted January 14, 2012 Once we get above 40 I''ll be happy.I think, thankfully, there are many teams that will be well below 40 points by the end of the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 14, 2012 [quote user="65Vintage"]We are doing so well this season, not that I didn''t think we would do, I think we just surprised everyone who had not followed our fortunes closely - particularly the so called pundits.Just wondered how many points people think we will need to be safe this season? The points needed to avoid relegation, from 2004/05 onwards were: 2004/05 34 points 2005/06 35 points 2006/07 38 points 2007/08 36 points 2008/09 35 points 2009/10 31 points 2010/11 40 points 2011/12 ?? points[/quote]if you have the time check the points total at 21 games and see how many more points were gained35 should be enough for any team down therewe would need around a third of a point a game over our remaining 17 games to be one of those clubs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,385 Posted January 14, 2012 [quote user="City1st"][quote user="65Vintage"]We are doing so well this season, not that I didn''t think we would do, I think we just surprised everyone who had not followed our fortunes closely - particularly the so called pundits.Just wondered how many points people think we will need to be safe this season? The points needed to avoid relegation, from 2004/05 onwards were: 2004/05 34 points 2005/06 35 points 2006/07 38 points 2007/08 36 points 2008/09 35 points 2009/10 31 points 2010/11 40 points 2011/12 ?? points[/quote]if you have the time check the points total at 21 games and see how many more points were gained35 should be enough for any team down therewe would need around a third of a point a game over our remaining 17 games to be one of those clubs[/quote]Totally agree, 10 points will be more than enough.35 points total may be a little hairy but 38 would see us well safe with games to spare. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gingerpele 0 Posted January 14, 2012 I reckon we can finish with 50 points!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gingerpele 0 Posted January 14, 2012 And actually our current games/points ratio, if my calculations are correct equals about 50....(28/21=1.3333333333etc, thats x38 =50.66666666667) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Brownstone 0 Posted January 14, 2012 Agree completely with City 1st. Win our home games against Wolves, Wigan and Bolton and its job done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 14, 2012 "Totally agree, 10 points will be more than enough" (not saying that''s your ambition)were that to happen it would be a massive collapseto only achieve that number of points over the remaining 17 games would give a season total of 22 points !we got 33 points in the season we were relegated - and then only missed staying up by ONE pointWhat is ironic is this forum is cluttered up with endless whinges about how the board don''t have ''hambition'', won''t back the manager, little ole norwich etc yet they have got us into 9th place. Have kept us safely mid table most of the season and yet here we still have endless bleats about relegation. It is not going to happen.We are in fact getting further a further away from the bottom three as the season progresses. The goal difference between us and the bottom is huge. We have scored more goals than most, with players who were derided for not having Premier League experienceand yet .... and yet..... the ever so ''umble, little ole Norwich mentality persists Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gingerpele 0 Posted January 14, 2012 City1st, the forum is not full of that, there is only actually one or two posters who really think that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
65Vintage 5 Posted January 14, 2012 We will stay up no doubt about that, the sooner we pass the safety margin though the better - I just wondered what people thought the safety margin would be this season.My thoughts were that even just another couple of wins and a draw might do it.I would hope, barring major injury problems etc, to finish comfortably mid table though, provided Lambert stays. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 14, 2012 [quote user="Gingerpele"]City1st, the forum is not full of that, there is only actually one or two posters who really think that.[/quote]maybe they are the same ones posting under different namesbut there are far more than one or two harping on about us hoping to avoid relegation and questioning wether the club is going to ''back'' the manager Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
William Darby 0 Posted January 14, 2012 It''s not worth the hassle trying to reason 35 36 (ish) will be enough. Because we''ll still get the panickers going on about at least 40 points... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whoareyou? 0 Posted January 14, 2012 You would have needed 40 points to stay up last season. Blackburn are good enough to stay up as are Wolves, West Brom and QPR. IMHO that leaves one team to join Bolton and Wigan in being relegated. We need to keep getting points to make sure it isn''t us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wizard 0 Posted January 14, 2012 4 wins and a draw imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 14, 2012 "4 wins and a draw imo"so this season is going to be completely different to all others, any reason why ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CantonsHero 0 Posted January 14, 2012 So far, the only month we haven''t won a game is August; in all the months that have followed we have got either 1 or 2.February: sunderland, BOLTON, swansea, MAN UTDMarch: stoke, WIGAN, newcastle, WOLVES, fulhamApril: EVERTON, spurs, MAN CITY, blackburn, LIVERPOOLMay: Arsenal, VILLAEach month apart from May gives us what I would consider at least 2 fantastic opportunities to do this. But if we can get a run going in March, we''ll look unstoppable; they look like games we can at least get points from. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wizard 0 Posted January 14, 2012 [quote user="City1st"]"4 wins and a draw imo"so this season is going to be completely different to all others, any reason why ?[/quote] The question was how many points for safety, I said 13 pts should do us, it didn''t ask how many will we finally get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shack Attack 0 Posted January 14, 2012 Assuming a team which has already qualified for the Champions Leaguw wins the FA Cup (if we don''t win it [:)]) how far down do the Europa League spots go? That will be of more concern to us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 14, 2012 "The question was how many points for safety, I said 13 pts should do us"So should 17 points, 20 points, 23 points or even 51 pointsalmost every other season the bottom three have been relegated with around twice the points total of the bottom three at the halfway stagewhich were this season15 Wigan14 Blackburn13 Boltonwhich suggest any club wanting to avoid relegation should be aiming for 31 points be generous and add a few more and 35 will do it2010/11 was a very high points total - as the bottom 5 were all 5 points ahead of what they are this season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Houston Canary 0 Posted January 15, 2012 Of course, unless I''m mistaken, the higher up we finish, the more TV revenue we get. 17th is okay but it won''t help nearly as much as 9th place in terms of available funds to attract more talent. So keep aiming high so we can keep this thing going for year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joanna Grey 0 Posted January 15, 2012 Exactly, 800 odd thousand a place is not to be sneezed at. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I am a Banana 0 Posted January 15, 2012 If we don''t conceed for the rest of the season, I think we will stay up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent Canary 0 Posted January 15, 2012 35 points. But frankly if we are anywhere close to the relegation zone at the end of the season then something is going to have to go drastically wrong. To be honest I think we could lose out next ten games and still be out of the bottom three. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryangunnshairline 0 Posted January 15, 2012 City 1st has a point. But I like to think how I would imagine Lambert does. Take each game as it comes, get the points to make us safe then let''s push on from there.40 points is probably more than enough but it has always been the magic number. Get to 40 and keep going. Because of how well we are doing now we can now afford to have a decent cup run along side the league which really excites me. I also think we will beat one of the so called BIG teams. This Saturday chelsea at home bring it on. Correct me if I''m wrong if chelsea win it will be the 1st time a team has done a league double on us since Lambert took over. I think we will win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NMTD 0 Posted January 15, 2012 3 wins and we''ll be safe imo We will get considerably more than the 37pts that would mean, starting with 3pts next weekend - I gotta feelin'' I think each place you finish higher in the league is worth about £800k - not a sum to be sniffed at. The difference between finishing 8th (our realistic highest possibility) and 17th is a neat £7m+. I will be satisfied to finish 17th as that was our original target and my level of happiness will rise expodentially for every place higher than that. Its OK to re realistic, but the reason we are succeeding is because we have ambition. Our ambition is that we finish as high up the league as we can, but at this stage it doesn''t mean we won''t be satisfied with 17th. COYY! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZLF 274 Posted January 15, 2012 Lambert made it clear in his interview yesterday that his first objective remains ensuring that we finish at least 17th. That is the be all and end all. Like everyone else I am confident that we will continue to pick up points and will end securely mid table - with every final position above 17th a bonus. What do I think we will need to be safe this season? 36points for me; blackburn are starting to pick up points but too many have to do that - if it gets to a 40pt mark the last game will be a scramble with possibly 6 teams at risk of going down. I do see that being us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted January 15, 2012 Cliche'' time, Just take one game at a time ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reggie Strayshun 0 Posted January 15, 2012 4à pts will be ample to stay up this season. Lambert may have said this business about finishing at least 17th in his interview, but everything about his demeanour, the way he sets his stall out , and the attitude of the players points to the fact that he genuinely does not look at the long term like this. I know it''s a cliché, but he clearly DOES take each game as it comes, and tries to win every one. I can never remember a Norwich team that has become so adept so quickly at winning games by playing a bit ugly at times and ruthlessly taking the few chances created . I hope I''m not speaking too soon, but we really do also seem to be eradicating the silly defensive errors, and if we can just keep a few clean-sheets, then a top seven finish would not be out of the question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZLF 274 Posted January 15, 2012 Finish 7th ( which is still theorhetcially possible) & that will be the equivalent in finishing in the top 5 by previous teams, given the huge imbalances of funds. I just dont think our defence is quite good enough to hit those heights. But address that and a little more pace as an attacking force then next season?... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites