priceyrice 133 Posted January 16, 2012 Now do not take this post as player bashing, although the last player i bashed, Surman has really proved me wrong in recent weeks, so perhaps i should, but what do people make of Bennet''s impact in the team so far?He hasn''t had that many oppertunities to make an impact in the team, as Lambert seems to favour a more fluid midfield made up less of wingers than players with more of a free role. But when he has played he has made some vital contributions and a couple of assists but he does not look anywhere near the player he was in League 1. I know League 1 is complete different standard, but Bennet was not afraid to take players on in that League and looked a threat most times he got the ball. When he has played for us, he seems to be a little more restrained, he doesn''t take his player on as much and he doesn''t run with the ball as much as i would like to see. I don''t know if it''s confidence or if it''s team tactics, but i would love to see him have a go at defenders more, play more of a Nathan Dyer type role. I really do not think there is much difference between the two players, but Dyer has much more of an impact.I would like to see us play two wingers more, although at the moment our system is effective, with bennet playing with more freedom and then i think we can really see the best of him.Thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Shirt 17 Posted January 16, 2012 If we were to play 2 wingers we''d have to drop Wes and have a second holding player in CM rather than the diamond- otherwise we essentially have a 1 man midfield!We could go 1 up top with Wes as a second striker but he doesn''t get the goals we''d need in that scenario so Jackson or (preferably) someone else with pace and a good shot with Holt or Moro seems the better option.I''d like to see Pilks tried off Moro/Holt with Fox and Johnson holding and Surman left and Bennet right against Sunderland. When Vaughan is back Pilks would go left and Vaughan as a second striker. Would tighten us up without necessarily loosing attacking impetus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary_on_the Trent 0 Posted January 16, 2012 Different type of player to Nathan Dyer, Bennett likes to get on the outside & put balls into the box more often.He''s taken a bit of time to find his feet because of the step up from League 1, I''m surprised more of the squad haven''t to be honest. However the last few weeks he''s put some fantastic balls in, resulting in goals. At the moment he''s an impact-sub for me but i''m sure he''ll push on and earn himself a few starts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
priceyrice 133 Posted January 16, 2012 [quote user="Yellow Shirt"]If we were to play 2 wingers we''d have to drop Wes and have a second holding player in CM rather than the diamond- otherwise we essentially have a 1 man midfield!We could go 1 up top with Wes as a second striker but he doesn''t get the goals we''d need in that scenario so Jackson or (preferably) someone else with pace and a good shot with Holt or Moro seems the better option.I''d like to see Pilks tried off Moro/Holt with Fox and Johnson holding and Surman left and Bennet right against Sunderland. When Vaughan is back Pilks would go left and Vaughan as a second striker. Would tighten us up without necessarily loosing attacking impetus.[/quote]I like your team for Sunderland, it''s hard dropping Wes, but sometimes it''s in the team''s best interest. Vaughan will be a quality second striker when he is fit, strong pacey, good in the air and with his feet.I just want to see Bennet give it a real go when he gets a chance to start. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Webbo118 0 Posted January 16, 2012 [quote user="priceyrice"]Now do not take this post as player bashing, although the last player i bashed, Surman has really proved me wrong in recent weeks, so perhaps i should, but what do people make of Bennet''s impact in the team so far?He hasn''t had that many oppertunities to make an impact in the team, as Lambert seems to favour a more fluid midfield made up less of wingers than players with more of a free role. But when he has played he has made some vital contributions and a couple of assists but he does not look anywhere near the player he was in League 1. I know League 1 is complete different standard, but Bennet was not afraid to take players on in that League and looked a threat most times he got the ball. When he has played for us, he seems to be a little more restrained, he doesn''t take his player on as much and he doesn''t run with the ball as much as i would like to see. I don''t know if it''s confidence or if it''s team tactics, but i would love to see him have a go at defenders more, play more of a Nathan Dyer type role. I really do not think there is much difference between the two players, but Dyer has much more of an impact.I would like to see us play two wingers more, although at the moment our system is effective, with bennet playing with more freedom and then i think we can really see the best of him.Thoughts?[/quote]Just out of interest, did you see Brighton a lot last season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salopian 1 Posted January 16, 2012 In his fairly limited apperances recently he has supplied some excellent crosses, which is surely what a winger is for. He probably suffers in being a less all-round footballer than Pilks so, when there is only one winger to accommodate Wes and Surman, he tends to sit on the bench.He is supposed to pack quite a shot, and did score from long range in one of our pre-season games, but his shooting has been disappointing,while Pilks seems to go from strength to strength in this. I think that his time will come, especially if we have injuries, and he probably needs a few games and a goalor two to gain some confidence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grantroederdisaster 0 Posted January 16, 2012 Hes done OK without standing out! Hes made some good crosses leading to assists and his pace and desire means he gives the fullbacks something to think about and also helps back well! I''d play him before playing Pilkington cause the latter was very quiet on Saturday! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howson is now! 0 Posted January 16, 2012 I think the major difference for Bennett in this league compared to League 1 is when you take on the defender on the outside in league 1, you''re leaving space for league 1 quality players to exploit if you lose the ball.If you lose the ball trying to beat your man in the premier league, you''re leaving said space for world class players to exploit. Especially if he plays in a diamond and there''s only Wes and Fox to cover / support Naughton / R. Martin.I would imagine Bennett has been advised to keep the outside runs to a minimum because we''ve seen earlier in the season the brilliant understanding between Bennett and Naughton. If Naughton overlaps, one of the CBs can come across to cover and Bennett drops back. If Bennett tries to take the outside and loses it everyone has to shift instead of just two players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
priceyrice 133 Posted January 16, 2012 Some interesting views on here.Not sure i would play him over Pilky, Pilky just seems to offer a little bit more, at the moment, with his all round game, as a previous poster says, he has contributed well to our goal tally.Webbo i havn''t particularly seen a lot of Brighten over the last couple of years, just watch highlights every weekend and when they are on sky, Bennet was influential in almost every gam he played. Ended up with something like 30 assists last season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canaries Utd 0 Posted January 16, 2012 He''s young, quick and skilful. He''s in a new team in the premier league, definitely one for the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron obvious 1,711 Posted January 16, 2012 Apart from anything else, he''s such a smashing lad I really want him to succeed. I think he will, too, but he''ll need a bit of patience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Great Drinkell 51 Posted January 16, 2012 Earlier in the season he put in some very good performances in support of Naughton and they looked to be forming a very strong right hand side. I think he was star struck initially when he got in and he just needs to believe he''s playing at the right level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Webbo118 0 Posted January 18, 2012 [quote user="priceyrice"]Some interesting views on here.Not sure i would play him over Pilky, Pilky just seems to offer a little bit more, at the moment, with his all round game, as a previous poster says, he has contributed well to our goal tally.Webbo i havn''t particularly seen a lot of Brighten over the last couple of years, just watch highlights every weekend and when they are on sky, Bennet was influential in almost every gam he played. Ended up with something like 30 assists last season.[/quote]Thanks. Just wondered what your rather deep, dogmatic analysis was based on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
How-zat-son! 0 Posted January 18, 2012 I think it''s mainly down to the pace of the full backs. Last year he would have been able to beat most full backs by just knocking the ball past them, this season though he''s had to think about how to beat people a bit more. He''s getting better though, for example his assist for Jackson''s goal against Fulham. Also the majority of games he has started we''ve only played with Morison up front on his own, and as he can sometimes drift out wide there isn''t always an option to put the ball into the box. As I said though, he''s improving as the season goes on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salopian 1 Posted January 18, 2012 He has seemed a little short on confidence, which may be due to not getting enough games, and his shooting has been disappointing. How often do we see him beating the fullback on the outside? He presumably has pace. I think, however, that his exclusion is more due to the diamond plus the guaranteed place for Wes, especially with two strikers. It means that the midfield then becomes a thin three, and with Pilks getting the nod only two. If Bennett were to play from the start we would have one central midfielder and however good he is he would struggle. If we sign Howson and he comes good, then I can see us playing orthodox 4-4-2 sometimes, with two wingers and with Howson plus one of Fox/Crofts/Surman in the centre. Accommodating Wes and Surman has been something of a risk, although both have gallantly helped out the defence. So if a successful Howson becomes available we can probably ring the changes, as well as cover for injury. I would like to see two wingers, and also see Bennett play regularly. He scored some good goals at Brighton, and he has already created goal chances for us. At the moment Piks has the edge when we play one winger, partly because he has scored some good goals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkbroadslim 225 Posted January 18, 2012 Top quality skill and cross from the Benno for Jackson''s goal v Fulham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites