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Darren Gibson, what do you think?

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Not been a link with him and NCFC, but just wondering what people''s thoughts are about bringing him in, either on loan, or i would prefer, on a permanent basis.Good solid midfielder, strong in the tackle, good eye and ability to play a good ball and a bloody good shot, could see him giving us another option in the middle of the park, him and Johnson would do a very solid job there. don''t think he would cost the earth either, a couple of mill maybe? Imagine he''s on some rather larger wages than we are looking at thoughI don''t think CM is top of our priority list, but we should always look at ways of improving all areas, i think Gibson would give us that improvement, he has some good experience with Man Utd.Not sure what the situation is with him at Man U, he isn''t that young and most be wanting to start more games. i also think i heard rumours about him joining Sunderland before - don''t see that happening now that Bruce has gone.Ha, having just written all this and then seeing Ambrose just score, maybe we should bring him in!!

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I know these aren''t necessarily positions we need to strengthen at the moment, but looking to the future I would be inclined to have a look at Wilfried Zaha in CAM/ST (Probably too expensive for us) and Nathaniel Clyne at RB of Palace. Both look very talented young players.2-1 - 3 minutes left. Come on Palace! Can see Man United getting a late equaliser and winning on pen''s though...

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I really like Gibson, and don''t really understand why he can''t break into a poor Man Utd central midfield. With the lack of Scholes, someone like Gibson is a perfect replacement.

I would love to have him here, he would definitely sure up the midfield. Only problem then is, who do you drop to let him into the team?!

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Both very good players, rated Clyne for a couple years and Zaha has really started to come into his own, showed it again today. However, i did feel he got a bit greedy in the second half, tried to do it alone a lot of the time. i also think he''s going to head to a more established prem team.Really think Gibson would be a great addition, have a lot of man u mates who rate him

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Darron Gibson is a pretty decent player but he''s not a player who ever seems to really take the chances he''s given - that''s why he can''t find a regular place in the Utd team.

 

At his age you''d think he''d want to be playing regular first team football but he''s already 24 and he hasn''t played all that much football at first team level.

 

It''s hard to see him ever making the grade and becoming a key player for Utd but does he want to prove himself by moving to a smaller club and probably taking a pay cut?

 

I do think midfield could well be an area we will be looking to strengthen in the window but being at Utd he''s likely to be on a pretty good wage that we''d struggle to match.

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[quote user="AJ Wizard"]I really like Gibson, and don''t really understand why he can''t break into a poor Man Utd central midfield. With the lack of Scholes, someone like Gibson is a perfect replacement.

I would love to have him here, he would definitely sure up the midfield. Only problem then is, who do you drop to let him into the team?![/quote]Honestly, i would have him replace Fox. I really like Fox, great passer, but does not quite have the extra bite. Gibson would do that roll of taking the ball of the CBs while also having somewhere in there who can break up play well, kind of does a Johnson job and a Fox job.It has been surprising he has never really broken into the first team, he''s been getting over 10 games a season though, as i am quite sure he got a championship medal last season, i was at Utd watching them lift the cup - that was a painful day!

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[quote user="Ben "]Thought he was on like 40k a week which is why his move to Sunderland fell though in the summer. If so then I hope he stays far away from this football club.[/quote]your prob right, loan deal perhaps?

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Darron Gibson is an embarrassing footballer. Not sure when he''s ever shown this great eye for a pass or strong tackle. Constantly shoots from 30 yards because he once scored a goal from there.

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Don''t think we need a centre midfielder personally, think we have other positions which need strengthening more.

Although I don''t mind Gibson, I think he will probably have quite high wages, I am sure that''s why he didn''t go Sunderland in the summer.

Clyne and Zaha are great shouts, probably more so Clyne as he can play both right and left back.

Zaha would be great, but feel because his age would not make an instant impact, so probably makes more sense to happen in the summer.

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[quote user="Lambert is god"]Seem to remember Clyne was interesting a few Prem clubs in the summer, including QPR. Supposed to be very highly rated, so don''t think he''ll be at Palace too much longer.[/quote]

Neither will Ambrose,

 

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I don''t really rate Gibson at all. I wouldn''t consider him to be massively better than Bradley Johnson and the only real difference between the two that I can see is that Gibson plays (very occasionally) for a massive club. He is hard working enough but his passing isn''t great and he seems to suffer from some delusional belief that he''s a great long range shooter.

 

Somebody else mentioned earlier in the week, and I can''t remember who it was so I can''t give them any real credit for it, that at the moment if we want to play a two man attack we tend to need two hard working midfielders (Johnson and Crofts) in the centre which adversely affects our creativity. We don''t seem to be able to fit Wes in there to provide that creativity (although his introduction on Saturday at the tip of the diamond may cause a rethink) without losing control of the midfield area. What we really need is a defensive central midfield screener who can also pass a bit to do the jobs of Crofts and Johnson combined. What we are looking for is a cheap Scott Parker. Any ideas?

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Gibson is a very good player who had a confidence crisis after being booed by Man U fans and then abused on Twitter. Think he could do very well in another team, but isn''t up to standard for a ''top 4'' club.

 

Not sure he is the type of midfielder Norwich need and as mentioned above he refused a move to Sunderland at the beginning of the season so can''t see him wanting to come to Norwich just yet. Also, with Man U having most of their midfielders out injured at the moment Fergie may want to hold onto him for a while.

 

 

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Gibson''s pretty limited, and that is despite the upshoot he could get from a move away from Old Trafford. I am surprised that Ambrose has not been able to get a move to the prem in the past two seasons, he clearly has the technical ability. One wonders if there are other forces acting behind the scenes. I am a big fan of his, despite his ''background''.I don''t think Gibson would add much to our midfield. I would however like to see a holding midfielder signed for the club. I think that add that to the duo of Fox and Johnson, it would give us a very strong core to which we can vary our attacking play quite capably. In terms of players that firstly fit the profile of a Lambert target and secondly would be an ideal fit, I would suggest Jimmy Abdou of Millwall, Jem Karacan of Reading and Morgan Schneiderlin of Southampton. The reality is, getting any of those players will be difficult considering the value they provide for their teams.

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I guess it''s easy to forget that ManYoo are a club in the happy position of being able to keep the Darren Gibsons of this world on their books purely on the outside chance of a major injury crisis as someone to slot in the bench for the odd PL or Champs League game. Basically, he''s never going to be good enough to get a regular starting berth at OT, but certainly is as a minor squad player.

 

So, unless he makes it clear to SAF that he wants away, he''ll continue to draw his wages there. Not sure if that''s the kind of  bloke that floats Paul Lambert''s boat. I suppose he could do a good job for us, given the right circumstances, but not sure if he''s that much better than Brad, Foxy or Crofts . As some others have said, there are more pressing priorities, come January , if PL has cash to splash.

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''a bloody good shot''

 

This is laughable, its the same myth as Roberto Carlos been good free kick taker.

 

Just because you saw him score one on MOTD, doesnt mean he is good at them, you should see how many he gets wrong!

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[quote user="CDMullins"]

''a bloody good shot''

 

This is laughable, its the same myth as Roberto Carlos been good free kick taker.

 

Just because you saw him score one on MOTD, doesnt mean he is good at them, you should see how many he gets wrong!

[/quote]Well, not quite CD, think most people who know a bit about Man U know that he is regarded as their best striker of the ball from distance. Your right in that he doesn''t score more than 2 or so of them a season, but given a run of games he could be banging more in.Here''s a little quote i just found from Fergie back in 2009 (i don''t want to labour a point, just backing up what i have said)Ferguson added: "Darron is the one player in our club who can score

great goals from outside the box. He has such tremendous power in his

shot.(this was after his two goals against Spurs in carling cup)http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8389615.stmBut like others have said, i don''t see him coming here and it is not the most vital position that needs improving, could be one for the future though, IMHO, he would be a good player for a top half club

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[quote user="priceyrice"][quote user="CDMullins"]

''a bloody good shot''

 

This is laughable, its the same myth as Roberto Carlos been good free kick taker.

 

Just because you saw him score one on MOTD, doesnt mean he is good at them, you should see how many he gets wrong!

[/quote]

Well, not quite CD, think most people who know a bit about Man U know that he is regarded as their best striker of the ball from distance. Your right in that he doesn''t score more than 2 or so of them a season, but given a run of games he could be banging more in.

Here''s a little quote i just found from Fergie back in 2009 (i don''t want to labour a point, just backing up what i have said)
Ferguson added: "Darron is the one player in our club who can score great goals from outside the box. He has such tremendous power in his shot.
(this was after his two goals against Spurs in carling cup)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8389615.stm

But like others have said, i don''t see him coming here and it is not the most vital position that needs improving, could be one for the future though, IMHO, he would be a good player for a top half club
[/quote]

 

Garbage, absolute garbage.

 

What would you expect Fergie to say when asked a question in a interveiw about 2 good goals?

 

Start watching more football matches and less MOTD.

 

Wish I could be arsed to find a website showing how many times he''d missed the target compared to the amount of goals hes scored.

 

Feel free to do the research and prove me wrong

 

 

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haha I am not quite that sad CD, i am happy with my point lol, no more research needed.Unfortuantly i saw Man Utd play at home over 40 times in last 3 season, mate has season tickets and living in Leeds it''s very easy. So in all honesty i would guess i have seen them more than most Norwich fans

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[quote user="priceyrice"]haha I am not quite that sad CD, i am happy with my point lol, no more research needed.

Unfortuantly i saw Man Utd play at home over 40 times in last 3 season, mate has season tickets and living in Leeds it''s very easy. So in all honesty i would guess i have seen them more than most Norwich fans
[/quote]

 

Exactly the same, live in Castleford, Mates Doctors family at Pinders have season tickets, they are never bothered so go there very often.

 

Ask the United fans who they would like to shoot from 20 yards out, I bet you the names mentioned are Rooney, Nani, Giggs, Young or even Carrick.

 

Gibson is living off them couple of good goals he scored - For every one time he hits the target, he puts 50 wide or over

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[quote user="priceyrice"]haha I am not quite that sad CD, i am happy with my point lol, no more research needed.

Unfortuantly i saw Man Utd play at home over 40 times in last 3 season, mate has season tickets and living in Leeds it''s very easy. So in all honesty i would guess i have seen them more than most Norwich fans
[/quote]

 

Sad enough to find a quote from 2009 though? wink wink

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[quote user="CDMullins"]

[quote user="priceyrice"]haha I am not quite that sad CD, i am happy with my point lol, no more research needed.Unfortuantly i saw Man Utd play at home over 40 times in last 3 season, mate has season tickets and living in Leeds it''s very easy. So in all honesty i would guess i have seen them more than most Norwich fans[/quote]

 

Exactly the same, live in Castleford, Mates Doctors family at Pinders have season tickets, they are never bothered so go there very often.

 

Ask the United fans who they would like to shoot from 20 yards out, I bet you the names mentioned are Rooney, Nani, Giggs, Young or even Carrick.

 

Gibson is living off them couple of good goals he scored - For every one time he hits the target, he puts 50 wide or over

[/quote]find me a striker who has never Missed then?

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[quote user="jas the barclay king"][quote user="CDMullins"]

[quote user="priceyrice"]haha I am not quite that sad CD, i am happy with my point lol, no more research needed.

Unfortuantly i saw Man Utd play at home over 40 times in last 3 season, mate has season tickets and living in Leeds it''s very easy. So in all honesty i would guess i have seen them more than most Norwich fans
[/quote]

 

Exactly the same, live in Castleford, Mates Doctors family at Pinders have season tickets, they are never bothered so go there very often.

 

Ask the United fans who they would like to shoot from 20 yards out, I bet you the names mentioned are Rooney, Nani, Giggs, Young or even Carrick.

 

Gibson is living off them couple of good goals he scored - For every one time he hits the target, he puts 50 wide or over

[/quote]

 

Can find you plenty that hit the target more than Gibson

find me a striker who has never Missed then?
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Yet Gibson plays for the biggest football team in the world, for the most succesful manager in the modern game and the best club side in English football history...so, explain why he is so rubbish CD?Cody Mac scores more than him.....

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[quote user="jas the barclay king"]Yet Gibson plays for the biggest football team in the world, for the most succesful manager in the modern game and the best club side in English football history...

so, explain why he is so rubbish CD?

Cody Mac scores more than him.....
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Grow Up,

 

At what point have I said he is ''so rubbish''??

 

I said the quote that he has ''a bloody good'' shot is laughable.

 

You also telling me Fergie''s never got it wrong? William Prunier, Massimo Taibi, Bebe, Davide Bellion, Djemba Dejemba, Kleberson, Juan Vernon, Jordi, Dong Fanzhaou to name a few.

 

Gibson is exactly the type of player United get away with having, like O''Shea, Brown, Nicky Butt, Phil Neville. Never great players there but do a job.

 

 

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[quote user="CDMullins"]

Gibson is exactly the type of player United get away with having, like O''Shea, Brown, Nicky Butt, Phil Neville. Never great players there but do a job.

 [/quote]

I think you have it there CDM. Sure Gibson has some ability but like the names above he has fallen into the category of a squad player for Man United. The kind of player who doesn''t really specialise in anything, but can pick up all the work that is needed from him and do a serviceable job. Certainly if United need passing in the middle they will go for Carrick, for tackling and energy they will go for Fletcher, for drive they will go for Anderson and for a ball carrier they will go for Park or Valencia. So Gibson often finds he has to do a bit of everything, filling in the gaps of what is required. However for another team, that simply won''t be enough, few other teams can afford the luxury of such type players.

I personally have seen it as no surprise that Sunderland have really struggled this season. They managed to pick up a bunch of players in Brown, O''Shea, Bendtner and Gardener (perhaps I''m harsh with the last one) who all did serviceable things for their previous respective clubs but lack the individual attributes that can help create a style and methodology to their game.

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[quote user="Fellas"][quote user="CDMullins"]

Gibson is exactly the type of player United get away with having, like O''Shea, Brown, Nicky Butt, Phil Neville. Never great players there but do a job.

 [/quote]

I think you have it there CDM. Sure Gibson has some ability but like the names above he has fallen into the category of a squad player for Man United. The kind of player who doesn''t really specialise in anything, but can pick up all the work that is needed from him and do a serviceable job. Certainly if United need passing in the middle they will go for Carrick, for tackling and energy they will go for Fletcher, for drive they will go for Anderson and for a ball carrier they will go for Park or Valencia. So Gibson often finds he has to do a bit of everything, filling in the gaps of what is required. However for another team, that simply won''t be enough, few other teams can afford the luxury of such type players.

I personally have seen it as no surprise that Sunderland have really struggled this season. They managed to pick up a bunch of players in Brown, O''Shea, Bendtner and Gardener (perhaps I''m harsh with the last one) who all did serviceable things for their previous respective clubs but lack the individual attributes that can help create a style and methodology to their game.

[/quote]

 

Wow, the Pinkun hasnt completley fallen to mush, there is someone else who speaks sense.

 

Good post Fellas

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