a1canary 0 Posted October 23, 2011 Great prospect and has performed well, but for all the talk of Barnett struggling I was more worried for Kyle yesterday. I think we may need super Russell back in his familiar role, revelation as he has been at the centre. I can''t see Naughton maintaining his early standards all season long. Either way you can''t help feel we need Dani/Zak back asap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJP 79 Posted October 23, 2011 [quote user="a1canary"]Great prospect and has performed well, but for all the talk of Barnett struggling I was more worried for Kyle yesterday. I think we may need super Russell back in his familiar role, revelation as he has been at the centre. I can''t see Naughton maintaining his early standards all season long. Either way you can''t help feel we need Dani/Zak back asap.[/quote]Don''t think we''re in any hurry to change the defence at the moment. Leon has generally been awesome and the other 3 are all doing very well too. I''d also be keener to see Ward come back more than Dani/Zak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 23, 2011 [quote user="a1canary"]Great prospect and has performed well, but for all the talk of Barnett struggling I was more worried for Kyle yesterday. I think we may need super Russell back in his familiar role, revelation as he has been at the centre. I can''t see Naughton maintaining his early standards all season long. Either way you can''t help feel we need Dani/Zak back asap.[/quote]Guessing you didn''t see Ayala against MK Dons then?!Also, have we not got De Laet on the bench anyway? I think Naughton and Martin have been absolutely outstanding so far this season (in fact, all four who started yesterday have been brilliant), so cannot see why Lambert would be thinking about changing things up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smooth 114 Posted October 24, 2011 Can''t see a change to that back 4 for a while. We were playing against a team that could finish in the top four and got a draw.Yes sometimes unconventionally we defended, we relied on them having an off day but we knew we''d be under pressure. Naughton has been a revelation at right back as has R Martin at centre half. In fact if R Martin remains at centre back it is a better move for him and the club. He is the modern day centre back and certainly we can reap the reward because he will be sold as a ball playing and ofrward thinking centre half, with pace and the ability one on one to compete with centre forwards in this division.Just wait the Blackburn attack is not that potent and our defence has a real chance of keeping that 1st clean sheet. That they very much deserve for keeping the likes of man u, chelsea and liverpool to a few goals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gingerpele 0 Posted October 24, 2011 Why on earth has MK Dons game been mentioned?Hasn''t it already been well established that was a nothing game with no effort from any Norwich player? And no opinions on players can be based on that game.....I think the defence should stay as is for as long as possible. Even if it wasn''t as solid as it could have been on Saturday, we were playing Liverpool and did only concede one goal. Having a stable back line is very important, look at Man.U they seem to be conceding a lot now, not just Man.C game but others recently too, and thats i''m sure partly down to having a different back line every game.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacko 0 Posted October 24, 2011 The reason it has been mentioned is because it is the only time Ayala has played for Norwich so far. So unless you saw him play for either Hull or Derby against us thats pretty much all people will have to go on. He then obviously got quite a nasty injury after that. He didn''t have a particularly good game, but then again who did?! No one is going to write him off after one match that would be crazy. I am sure he can do a decent job for us. The current back four has to stay the same. They have performanced well and they withstood a lot of pressure from Liverpool. Suarez will make world class defenders look foolish at times he has that much ability. So we were always going to have to ride our luck. It would be nice if we could nick the odd clean sheet at home though. Its stating the obvious but at the moment we need to score at least twice to win a Premiership match. That is putting us under a fair amount of pressure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
a1canary 0 Posted October 24, 2011 Forgot about De Laet! The defence has worked very well and long may it continue. I can just see at some point in the season there is likely to be a change needed that sees one of the specialist centre backs going back in. And if that does happen, i wouldn''t want to lose Martin''s organisational abilities in the back four, even if that means moving him back out to full back.Re Ayala, it really annoys me when people say "god didn''t you see him against x opposition when he was awful." So what, he should never play for city again? Are you Glenn Roeder in disguise?Can you tell many players who weren''t awful that night? Have you learnt absolutely nothing in the last 2 years? Have you not seen what Lambert has done with out players? Fool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 0 Posted October 24, 2011 Defence did great against a side who pressurise teams more than any side we will probably face this season away from home.They are doing great, no need to tinker unless there is a loss of form or injury. Martin is doing better at centre back than he will probably do at right back. Naughton has the pace to deal with wingers and is still learning (Saturday would have been a big learning curve for him). Barnett and Tierney are terrific too.If it aint broke don''t fix it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 24, 2011 [quote user="a1canary"]Forgot about De Laet! The defence has worked very well and long may it continue. I can just see at some point in the season there is likely to be a change needed that sees one of the specialist centre backs going back in. And if that does happen, i wouldn''t want to lose Martin''s organisational abilities in the back four, even if that means moving him back out to full back.Re Ayala, it really annoys me when people say "god didn''t you see him against x opposition when he was awful." So what, he should never play for city again? Are you Glenn Roeder in disguise?Can you tell many players who weren''t awful that night? Have you learnt absolutely nothing in the last 2 years? Have you not seen what Lambert has done with out players? Fool.[/quote]Beg your pardon? Are you talking to a strawman or putting words in my mouth? I have no doubt that Ayala has the potential to be a great player for us, but I have no idea why you would suggest he needs to come back into a defence that is starting to gel and learning each others'' games, especially when he hasn''t exactly hit the ground running in the few games where he has been given an opportunity.Yes, we may well need to make defensive changes throughout the season, but 10 points out of 15, which include 3 away trips, two of which were to Old Trafford and Anfield, make me think that pehaps now isn''t the time to be discusing the replacement of our top performers. In fact, I thnk it was the hallmark of a certain Glenn Roeder to tinker with a team that was performing well, so perhaps you should look a bit closer to home the next time you try and make offensive comparisons? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 24, 2011 [quote user="Gingerpele"]Why on earth has MK Dons game been mentioned?Hasn''t it already been well established that was a nothing game with no effort from any Norwich player? And no opinions on players can be based on that game.....I think the defence should stay as is for as long as possible. Even if it wasn''t as solid as it could have been on Saturday, we were playing Liverpool and did only concede one goal. Having a stable back line is very important, look at Man.U they seem to be conceding a lot now, not just Man.C game but others recently too, and thats i''m sure partly down to having a different back line every game....[/quote]Oh, I do apologise - I didn''t realise people had to check with yourself as to acceptable criteria with which to form an opinion before posting. I will remember that before I make a light-hearted comment next time. The point is that Naughton has been absolutely immense for us so far, so to suggest we need to restructure the defence and bring in someone who has not show good recent form seems a little silly to me. I absolutely agree with you it is very important to have a stable back 5, and I think we are starting to see the benefits of just that. For me, Naughton has (along with Tierney) been almost faultless this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norwich MP 0 Posted October 24, 2011 Come on I.S., you know there''s no such thing on here as a light hearted comment, especially ones based on proper facts...Firstly, how could you possibly base an opinion on a player solely on the one performance he''s given for the club? Hasn''t this forum decided that everyones performance on that day are null and void? Infact, I don''t even remember it? What game? I think they even got the results scrubbed out of the history books. Honestly, anyone would think you were Glenn Ro... oh, someones already suggested that. Now who feels like a fool... (I''m looking at a1canary...), a fool for voicing an opinion? There''s really no need for that.You should base your opinion on his reputation, the speculative idea that he SHOULD be immense because we''re all so giddy and excited now, we can literally take on the world with PL at the helm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkbroadslim 223 Posted October 24, 2011 Why can''t the commentators get his name right FFS!!![:@][:@][:@] It''s Kyle, KYLE, K - Y - L - E and not fookin Carl/Karl! It''s not difficult to say is it? Kyle, only four letters, the same as Carl, nobbers![:@] For the life of me I can''t see why it causes such a problem. No matter whether on BBC TV/Radio, Talksport, Sky, they never get his name right. I fainted when one of the commentators for the Liverpool game called him Kyle. He only said it the once mind, must have thought he''d made a mistake calling him Kyle. [:@][:@][:@][:@][:@] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
