What would you views be if a gypsy played for us

[Thisisbabyish 0]

At least the car park would be immaculate!

[BW 0]

Well some people said this was a stupid/bizarre thread, while others gave their opinions. I feel we finally had a thread here that caused a debate involving football and i was very interested in the responses that came out. Some of the posts were most delightful, some posts showed signs of totalitarianism ideology between some of our fans. I feel i can conclude we are all different and therefore will have different opinions, whether people are idiots or not for some of their views is only ever going to be a opinion and nothing more. Support the democratic world.

[Syteanric 1]

no ones made the Alan Lee Comment yet!

[Lets be aving you! 0]

Frank Worthington always attracted cries of "Gyppo". Was it because of how he looked or because he kept moving on?

 

It seems we were one of the few clubs he didn''t play for:

Years	Team	Apps†	(Gls)†
1966–1972	Huddersfield Town	171	(41)
1972–1977	Leicester City	210	(72)
1977–1979	Bolton Wanderers	84	(35)
1979	→ Philadelphia Fury (loan)	21	(10)
1979–1982	Birmingham City	75	(29)
1980	→ Mjällby AIF (loan)	12	(4)
1981	→ Tampa Bay Rowdies (loan)	26	(11)
1982	Leeds United	32	(14)
1982–1983	Sunderland	19	(2)
1983–1984	Southampton	34	(4)
1984–1985	Brighton & Hove Albion	31	(7)
1985–1987	Tranmere Rovers	59	(21)
1987	Preston North End	23	(3)
1987–1988	Stockport County	19	(6)
1988	Cape Town Spurs
1988	Chorley	3	(0)
1988–1989	Stalybridge Celtic
1989	Galway United	2	(0)
1989	Weymouth	4	(1)
1989–1990	Radcliffe Borough
1990	Guiseley	2	(0)
1990–1991	Hinckley Town
1991	Cemaes Bay	1	(0)
1991–1992	Halifax Town (player-coach)	0	(0)

[LeJuge 0]

[quote user="Lambert is god"]

Frank Worthington always attracted cries of "Gyppo". Was it because of how he looked or because he kept moving on?

 

It seems we were one of the few clubs he didn''t play for:

Years	Team	Apps†	(Gls)†
1966–1972	Huddersfield Town	171	(41)
1972–1977	Leicester City	210	(72)
1977–1979	Bolton Wanderers	84	(35)
1979	→ Philadelphia Fury (loan)	21	(10)
1979–1982	Birmingham City	75	(29)
1980	→ Mjällby AIF (loan)	12	(4)
1981	→ Tampa Bay Rowdies (loan)	26	(11)
1982	Leeds United	32	(14)
1982–1983	Sunderland	19	(2)
1983–1984	Southampton	34	(4)
1984–1985	Brighton & Hove Albion	31	(7)
1985–1987	Tranmere Rovers	59	(21)
1987	Preston North End	23	(3)
1987–1988	Stockport County	19	(6)
1988	Cape Town Spurs
1988	Chorley	3	(0)
1988–1989	Stalybridge Celtic
1989	Galway United	2	(0)
1989	Weymouth	4	(1)
1989–1990	Radcliffe Borough
1990	Guiseley	2	(0)
1990–1991	Hinckley Town
1991	Cemaes Bay	1	(0)
1991–1992	Halifax Town (player-coach)	0	(0)

[/quote]He knew where the goal was though!I seem to remember the snakepit chanting gypo at Danny Dichio, but I can''t find anything to support that claim, so can only assume that it was because he had long scruffy hair and was unshaven. Dichio got REALLY wound up about that, can remember him having a go at the fans and everything. Pretty certain that was against QPR, because that''s when he had long hair?

[Wings of a Sparrow 1,402]

That''s a helluva career and one of footballs great characters.

[Herman 9,691]

I always thought Frank Worthington was more of an old school ''spiv'' rather than a gypsy.He did score one of my favourite goals ever,

http://youtu.be/W0z_arXZ8nM

[lappinitup 629]

FCR is our church and that''s a good enough reason not to have a pikey around....there wouldn''t be any lead left on the roof. [+o(]

[grantroederdisaster 0]

If he was good I''d say so but if he was crap I''d say so on here and get slaughtered like I have done by some on here in recent days just cause I say Chris Martins not good enough for the Premiership which unfortunately is true!

For the record the only things I''ve got against Gypsys or pikys as they are also known is they are in the majority criminals and their lack of respect!

[Syteanric 1]

[quote user="grantroederdisaster"]If he was good I''d say so but if he was crap I''d say so on here and get slaughtered like I have done by some on here in recent days just cause I say Chris Martins not good enough for the Premiership which unfortunately is true!

For the record the only things I''ve got against Gypsys or pikys as they are also known is they are in the majority criminals and their lack of respect![/quote]think you''ll find Pikeys and Gypsies are completely different things!

[Houston Canary 0]

Good one, Hannibal!

[Rudolph Hucker 0]

I had a little josh on this thread but overall, and despite the steriotypical comments the debate produced some cracking posts, particularly from Le Juge (because IMO they were not sentimental or patronising) and drew opinion which, while prejudicial, need to be aired to be cleared.

The damage political correctness has done to this country is to push prejudice underground and harden it. The protesters and some residents at Dale Farm are likewise taking advantage of too much liberalism which loses balance and simply invites resentment.

The original thread is valid because in the 1970''s this debate was being held about black players. There was a classic scene in the ''Til Death Us Do Part'' film where Alf finds himself in the West Ham Club urinals with Clive Best whom he tells he doesn''t mind him playing for the Hammers despite being ''a darkie.'' Clive whispers in Alf''s ear to ''piss off!''

The question to people who love their football is what prejudices would they set aside if the subject was a good enough player or, in the modern game, a rich enough benefactor. This is often played out with our devoted fan owner versus a wealthy foreign owner who has no soul for the Club.

It''s a good football debate. Look at the ''French'' team that won the World Cup or in other sports the current top ''English'' cricket team.

Perhaps sport is just a great leveller?

[LeJuge 0]

[quote user="Better Wizard"]Well some people said this was a stupid/bizarre thread, while others gave their opinions. I feel we finally had a thread here that caused a debate involving football and i was very interested in the responses that came out. Some of the posts were most delightful, some posts showed signs of totalitarianism ideology between some of our fans. I feel i can conclude we are all different and therefore will have different opinions, whether people are idiots or not for some of their views is only ever going to be a opinion and nothing more. Support the democratic world.[/quote]Despite being one of the people who said that the thread was stupid, I actually enjoyed the opportunity to present my opinions, it was a thread which could have gone very wrong but actually stayed fairly civil, hows that?

[LeJuge 0]

[quote user="RUDOLPH HUCKER"]I had a little josh on this thread but overall, and despite the steriotypical comments the debate produced some cracking posts, particularly from Le Juge (because IMO they were not sentimental or patronising) and drew opinion which, while prejudicial, need to be aired to be cleared.

The damage political correctness has done to this country is to push prejudice underground and harden it. The protesters and some residents at Dale Farm are likewise taking advantage of too much liberalism which loses balance and simply invites resentment.

The original thread is valid because in the 1970''s this debate was being held about black players. There was a classic scene in the ''Til Death Us Do Part'' film where Alf finds himself in the West Ham Club urinals with Clive Best whom he tells he doesn''t mind him playing for the Hammers despite being ''a darkie.'' Clive whispers in Alf''s ear to ''piss off!''

The question to people who love their football is what prejudices would they set aside if the subject was a good enough player or, in the modern game, a rich enough benefactor. This is often played out with our devoted fan owner versus a wealthy foreign owner who has no soul for the Club.

It''s a good football debate. Look at the ''French'' team that won the World Cup or in other sports the current top ''English'' cricket team.

Perhaps sport is just a great leveller?[/quote]Your right there. What these ultra-socialists and hardline liberals need to realise is that if they want a fair and equal society then it goes both ways. Labour screwed this country by trying to address inequality by giving some groups more rights than others, insane logic which actually results in less equality, obviously. I actually say that as a bonafide left winger. Only in my world socialism means fairness, letting people scream oppression and persecution to get away with whatever they want is not fairness, it''s called being weak and pathetic. I''m sick to death with the entire political spectrum. With the lefties and their positive discrimination, and the righties with their bias towards the super rich, the majority of the country can feel completely and utterly unrepresented. The Dale Farm issue is not one of human rights, it is one of fairness. It is the tax paying working classes, middle classes, and upper middle classes, who suffer the most as a result of all of this crap. They subsidise the super rich, and they subsidise the criminals and bone idle. Nobody subsidises the middle, they only squeeze the middle, both sides. I''m not in the slightest bit bigoted, refuse to resort to stereotypes, if I am consistant with my perception of travellers as largely ethnic groups rather than a lifestyle choice (as most of them should be), then it is deeply inappropriate to tarnish them all with the same brush. Because many people with travellers heritage are living in houses, paying tax, or in the case of Dale Farm - half of them are fully legally occupying their land.The law abiding half of Dale Farm are victims of the squatters just like the surrounding neighbours are, at least they could be in theory, if they aren''t happy about the situation. Just as occupants of legal sites nationwide are victims of the additional negative assumptions and stereotypes that will now be applied to them. I can''t help but blame Labour though. It''s difficult for me to do, because I know thats precisely what the Tories want us to do. The brash attempts of Labour to end inequality and to enforce political correctness have not only made problems worse but have also created problems that many of us didn''t even know existed. I fear that this is the reason that more people now tick ''BNP'' on their ballot papers.I thought that the Liberal Democrats might be the solution the problem, Nick Clegg was a great actor, his rhetoric was music to my ears. Cutting red tape, increasing tax thresholds, making education a right rather than a priviledge.  He subsequently committed the biggest fraud ever known in politics, he effectively stole votes, his party won''t ever get another one of mine.

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I''m afraid this country is finished as far as ''society'' is concerned as we have for too long given our soul to anyone from anywhere who chooses to take it. It''s way too late to significantly turn the tide, so for me it''s now all about finding a quiet corner of England and to hell with it all.Re Dale Farm... pretty much every voice I''ve heard protesting is Irish. Why not return home then as there is plenty of spare land over there? The reason they don''t is because they know our laws are weak, our observance of ''imposed rights'' laughable and the benefits paid to all comers easy to attain. Nothing wrong with the Irish as people... but these travellers are leeches. Pure and simple.Without the wet Liberals around them I''m sure the Conservatives would have set about dismantling Labour''s human rights tosh.... but maybe this will now have to wait for a time when their hands aren''t tied behind their backs.