Morisons Prozac 0 Posted September 5, 2011 Who is Lambert''s first choice? Pilkington came on against Chelsea but IMO Bennett has impressed more although both have been very impressive so far. Is it a case Lambert prefers Pilko atm or just sees him as a left-sided winger and Bennett as a right winger? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JJ 0 Posted September 5, 2011 I think Pilkington has more of a eye for goal scored some crackers last season. However an eye for goal in a wide position is not really helpful. I think Pilkington is a slightly better placer of the ball but acknowledge that the comparisons are slight.That wide position is always going to be tricky for Lambert as we have about 4 players that can play it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Great Wall Of Tettey 0 Posted September 5, 2011 Both!pilkington left and Bennett right looked awesome! I''d love to see them 2 In the diamond, I''m sure it will cause most teams problems. All 3 like to get back and defend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Great Wall Of Tettey 0 Posted September 5, 2011 [quote user="Oli Oli Oli Oli"]Both!pilkington left and Bennett right looked awesome! I''d love to see them 2 In the diamond, I''m sure it will cause most teams problems. All 3 like to get back and defend.[/quote]All 3 being hoolahan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lets be aving you! 0 Posted September 5, 2011 At the moment, Pilkington is probably the more important of the two because we have fewer options on the left than the right. The only other genuinely left-sided players are Surman and Lappin, and Surman seems to be out of form at the moment (judging by cup and reserve games). Lappin is nowhere near as good a player. Pilkington looks a really promising buy, especially as he has probably not been at peak fitness so far. Bennett looks handy, but Crofts has played RM a lot, so we are better covered there. Would be happy to see both Pilkington and Bennett playing, though, to be honest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barclay Kid 0 Posted September 5, 2011 Agreed that both together in the team would be brilliant as I thinks it''s hard to choose between the 2. But at the moment Pilks. I think he needs to get a couple of starts and full games under his belt, and then we will see just how great he is!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,471 Posted September 5, 2011 For WBA at home I would drop Hoolahan and start with both on each wing, leaving Johnson and Crofts central. I would even consider dropping Martin and playing Holt and Morrison upfront.In fact that would be my starting line up from the middle to the top end, with Naughton, Barnett, De Laet and Tierney being the back line.But how nice to have quality choices for a change....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWC 315 Posted September 5, 2011 It certainly is nice to have quality selections :)I would like to see a 1-3-2-4 formation with the normal back 4 with Johnson and Crofts holding midfield, an attacking midfield 3 of Pilks, Wes and EB and GH up front doing the damage !! - Yummy!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salopian 1 Posted September 5, 2011 If only one can play, then it has to be PIlkington. He gets back and helps the defence (- was on the goal line when Ruddy as last man "brought down" the Chelseas player?). He is taller. I think, and more useful in the air.If we have to chase a game, and have 11 players, I would like to play them both. As a combination of wingers they must ranked fairly high even in the Premiership. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
priceyrice 133 Posted September 5, 2011 [quote user="Indy"]For WBA at home I would drop Hoolahan and start with both on each wing, leaving Johnson and Crofts central. I would even consider dropping Martin and playing Holt and Morrison upfront.In fact that would be my starting line up from the middle to the top end, with Naughton, Barnett, De Laet and Tierney being the back line.But how nice to have quality choices for a change.......[/quote]Fully agree with this! Would like to see Vaughan on the bench if he is fit too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mahogany 0 Posted September 5, 2011 I''d go with both against WBA, I''d also like to see a 4-2-3-1 so we can fit both of them and Wes. We''d have plenty of attacking threat going forwards and hopefully be able to control the ball a bit more than we have so far this season. I''d stick Johnson and Fox in the middle 2 so we can get some good distribution to both the wings and up the middle from Fox with Johnson providing the brawn. Morison will have played a couple of games whilst most of the squad has had some rest so I''d go with just Holt up front. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
star_manic 0 Posted September 5, 2011 i think a lot of times it will come down to lamberts assessment of the opposition full backs. if he thinks the left back is weaker than the right then maybe bennett will get the call and vice versa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
judderman 0 Posted September 6, 2011 [quote user="JJ"]I think Pilkington has more of a eye for goal scored some crackers last season. However an eye for goal in a wide position is not really helpful. I think Pilkington is a slightly better placer of the ball but acknowledge that the comparisons are slight.That wide position is always going to be tricky for Lambert as we have about 4 players that can play it.[/quote]Search Elliot Bennett on youtube, you''ll find he has a massive eye for goal too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby 0 Posted September 6, 2011 Quote user : Salopian If only one can play, then it has to be PIlkington. He gets back and helps the defence (- was on the goal line when Ruddy as last man "brought down" the Chelseas player?). He is taller. I think, and more useful in the air. Huh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lincoln canary (& Golden Coppel) 0 Posted September 6, 2011 [quote user="Indy"]For WBA at home I would drop Hoolahan and start with both on each wing, leaving Johnson and Crofts central. I would even consider dropping Martin and playing Holt and Morrison upfront. In fact that would be my starting line up from the middle to the top end, with Naughton, Barnett, De Laet and Tierney being the back line. But how nice to have quality choices for a change.......[/quote] Why drop Hoolahan? Do people still not realise how important he is to the team. He was our best player against Wigan and Chelsea. Hoolahan should always be the first name on the team sheet whether its just behind a lone striker or at the tip of a midfield diamond. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smooth 114 Posted September 6, 2011 Lincoln this has been debated a number of times of how do you accomodate hoolahan, I think he is a very talented footballer.I do however agree with Indy, I prefer the two wide men with pace and feel against wba that would be me my starting line up. With the fact that hoolahan can come off the bench and be an impact player.I do want to see a team with two wingers in it, pilkington and bennett I feel would relish the chance to run at defenders in this league and take them on.I also feel we should never play a lone striker this season, I def. feel we need to play two out and out strikers, we need as many goal scoring players in form.Many have suggested the 2 sitting midfielders of crofts and johnson (who for me is second on the team sheet after de laet, of our outfield players) and hoolahan, bennett and pilkington as a three behind the lone striker. I think with that formation we could get caught out a great deal by quick passing premiership teams.I think both new acquisitions are hungry clearly very talented and I believe if both play alot this season they will have the same impact as hoolahan and hence a real selection dilemma.Depending on how morison and crofts are after wednesdays game may have a little to do with team selection, three games in a week. Although I belive a professional should be able to handle that. But it is great that these two players can hopefully be very buoyed and extra game time experience is good for our season.Lets just hope Sunday can get here very quickly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mahogany 0 Posted September 6, 2011 I don''t see how a 4-2-3-1 opens us up to quick passing teams. Also I think there is still a misunderstanding that playing 1 up front implies a defensive mentality. The role of the wingers is different from the that of the 442 winger. They''re expected to cut in and try to score rather than run along the line and cross it, both Pilkington and Bennett have shown their ability playing this way at their former clubs last season.In fact, depending on how it is played it can be far more attacking than a 442. You have 4 players whose role it is to provide the main attacking threat rather than the 2 in a traditional 442 or 3 in the diamond. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryan1992 0 Posted September 6, 2011 [quote user="Oli Oli Oli Oli"][quote user="Oli Oli Oli Oli"]Both! pilkington left and Bennett right looked awesome! I''d love to see them 2 In the diamond, I''m sure it will cause most teams problems. All 3 like to get back and defend.[/quote] All 3 being hoolahan[/quote]To have Hoolahan, Pilks and Benno all in the same team in a diamond would be suicidal in the Championship/League 1 let alone the Premier League! We would only have Johnson/Crofts that will be defensive minded and we would get ripped apart. Yes Bennett and Pilkington have tracked back a lot and got in some good challenges, but to play 2 wingers and a attacking midfielder would be a huge mistake, unless you only had one striker and could then have 2 of Crofts, Johnson and Fox all at the base of midfield supporting the defence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,610 Posted September 6, 2011 Interesting to note that Capello played the much discussed 4-2-3-1 or 4-5-1 formation on Friday night and the passing and movement seemed to go down very well with most who watched that game. For Downing, Young and Walcott read Pilkington, Hoolahan and Bennett.I really hope we will see this formation/line up soon although it is maybe better suited to playing away than at Carrow Road. Just feel it will give us a bit more solidity in midfield and help us keep possession better.Having said that if Morrison has a good game tonight then I think i would be tempted to start hinm alongside Holt on Sunday and go 4-4-2 as per Stoke. Harsh on Martin though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downloads 35 Posted September 6, 2011 Dropping Hoolahan is rediculous. How about a novel.... Whatever back 4Crofts FoxBennett Hoolahan PilkingtonJackson People have already proved in a couple of games against us this season what a bit of pace can create. How long till we wait to try pace up front rather than winning free kicks with Holt falling over. I refuse to believe the the pass master Hoolahan, the tricks of Pilkington and the prolific assist man Bennett can''t thread some through balls for Jackson to run onto. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites