Relegation Mini-League

[YankeeCanary 0]

[quote user="YankeeCanary"]

 

Of course, there''s always the possibility that we will beat Everton next week. This would leave Norwich 6 points clear of Everton. What will you do with Everton then Canton, re-insert them into your mini-league? If not, how about removing Norwich also at that point? [:D]

[/quote]

Canton''sHero, as you have not answered my two questions the allow me to ask you another one. Is it more important to you for Norwich to win against Everton or would you rather your predictions have more weight and hope that we don''t win, thereby avoiding the dilemma of answering the questions I posed. If, as I hope, you would rather that Norwich would win, then why won''t you answer the previous questions I posed to you, preferably before the match thus demonstrating our club''s performance as being more important than your own?

 

[WHITE VAN MAN 0]

iterestingly only 5 more points and we overtake to yokels down the road in Premier points from its inception.History eh!!!http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/premier-league/all-time-table/pl-years

[CantonsHero 0]

I''d love to see Norwich to beat Everton and I will be watching the game this weekend in the hope that they do so.

Norwich will stay in this league until the end. For me, the league shows not only that we''re doing extremely well, but it has a good discussion point on the teams who are struggling.

Will I put Everton back in? Maybe; maybe I was rash to take them out in the first place, but no-one seemed to state they thought it was a mistake. I still think they''ll be safe. I''d imagine there''s a few teams we''re 6 points clear of that will survive and some might even beat us.

[YankeeCanary 0]

[quote user="CantonsHero"]I''d love to see Norwich to beat Everton and I will be watching the game this weekend in the hope that they do so. Norwich will stay in this league until the end. For me, the league shows not only that we''re doing extremely well, but it has a good discussion point on the teams who are struggling. Will I put Everton back in? Maybe; maybe I was rash to take them out in the first place, but no-one seemed to state they thought it was a mistake. I still think they''ll be safe. I''d imagine there''s a few teams we''re 6 points clear of that will survive and some might even beat us.[/quote]

 

Well, I must be "no-one" then as I clearly questioned your logic for removing them from your mini-league as well as your evaluation of them not once, but twice, pointing out to you that when you stated ( incorrectly ) that they were beating everyone this simply was not the case

 

On your last point I think it''s highly unlikely that "quite a few" teams that we''re 6 points clear of will survive as the only teams we are 6 points clear of are the bottom three teams. If you''re referring to those three surviving then I suppose you could class them as "quite a few", although I doubt many would agree with the view that all three of them would survive. Naturally, we may suffer a defeat or two against them just as Newcastle just did against us.

 

Anyway, while I won''t question your tables, I will continue to question your assumptions from time to time should I see you getting off track.

 

[YankeeCanary 0]

[quote user="CantonsHero"]I''d love to see Norwich to beat Everton and I will be watching the game this weekend in the hope that they do so. Norwich will stay in this league until the end. For me, the league shows not only that we''re doing extremely well, but it has a good discussion point on the teams who are struggling. Will I put Everton back in? Maybe; maybe I was rash to take them out in the first place, but no-one seemed to state they thought it was a mistake. I still think they''ll be safe. I''d imagine there''s a few teams we''re 6 points clear of that will survive and some might even beat us.[/quote]

 

Well, I must be "no-one" then as I clearly questioned your logic for removing them from your mini-league as well as your evaluation of them not once, but twice, pointing out to you that when you stated ( incorrectly ) that they were beating everyone this simply was not the case

 

On your last point I think it''s highly unlikely that "quite a few" teams that we''re 6 points clear of will survive as the only teams we are 6 points clear of are the bottom three teams. If you''re referring to those three surviving then I suppose you could class them as "quite a few", although I doubt many would agree with the view that all three of them would survive. Naturally, we may suffer a defeat or two against them just as Newcastle just did against us.

 

Anyway, while I won''t question your tables, I will continue to question your assumptions from time to time should I see you getting off track.

 

[Bill 1,788]

I think what you are forgetting Mr Hiriam J Canary jnr III is the undoubted accuracy in the prophecys that underpins this masterpiece of tedious futilityWhy, we''ve had such insights as ......." I am positive it is going to be 3 from Norwich, Swansea, QPR, Wigan and Blackburn""I''ve been to 12 away games in a row where we have not been beaten. Man U will be the 13th.

I fully expect us to get something from Old Trafford""suggest these three are early strugglers not Bolton"

Sadly this nonsense is no more than the same sort of guff put out by so called mediums to the dull witted"Is there anybody here called John, or who has a relative called John ............ or maybe knows someone who is called John........................ who may have known someone, who may have passed on ... possibly ?

[CantonsHero 0]

LEAGUE TABLE SNAPSHOT (Week 16 - Saturday)

20pts Norwich City (7 rivals played 5H, 2A)

18pts Fulham (8 rivals played; 3H, 5A)

18pts WBA (8 rivals played; 4H, 4A)

18pts Swansea (8 rivals played, 5H, 3A)

16pts QPR (6 rivals played, 3H, 4A)

14pts Wolverhampton Wanders (7 rivals played; 4H, 3A)

14pts Sunderland (8 rivals played; 4H. 4A)

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13pts Wigan Athletic (9 rivals played, 4H, 5A)

10pts Blackburn Rovers (7 rivals played; 2H, 5A)

9pts Bolton Wanderers (7 rivals played; 2H, 5A)

HEAD-TO-HEAD TABLE (points scored against rivals)

15pts WBA from 8 games (1.88)

14pts Norwich City from 7 games (2.00pt)

13pts Wolverhampton Wanders from 7 games (1.86)

12pts Swansea from 8 games (1.50)

12pts Fulham from 6 games (1.50)

12pts Wigan Athletic from 9 games (1.33)

9pts Sunderland from 8 games (1.13)

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7pts Blackburn Rovers from 7 games (1.00)

6pts Bolton Wanderers from 7 games (0.86)

5pts QPR from 7 games (0.71)

AVERAGES TABLE (Average point per game against rivals)

2.00 Norwich City from (14/7)

1.88 WBA (15/8)

1.86 Wolverhampton Wanders (13/7)

1.50 Swansea (12/8)

1.50 Fulham (12/8)

1.33 Wigan Athletic (12/9)

1.13 Sunderland (9/8)

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1.00 Blackburn Rovers (7/7)

0.86 Bolton Wanderers (6/7)

0.71 QPR (5/7)

Norwich finish this weekend in the top half of the table no matter what happens tomorrow, and will also be 7 points clear of the relegation zone. A shame Wigan got a point today but with ManU, Arsenal and Stoke away in their next three games suggest that we can stretch that gap with points against Wolves, Spurs and Fulham. A ten point gap at New Year looks very plausible.

Would beg the question, would we need this? I did say any team who gets ten points clear of the zone would be removed.... Would make a few people quite happy.

Blackburn and Bolton still in a lot of trouble, with Wigan and QPR the only other teams in the three zones, and with a tough game against ManU tomorrow, and Arsenal coming up, they could be in trouble too.

[CantonsHero 0]

No change from yesterday.

Except Norwich stay 9th!!!

[Mister Chops 7]

If you are intent on continuing this, as you appear to be, then Aston Villa and Everton should be added back in.Villa are 10th and can''t buy a goal without Agbonlahor and Bent.Everton are 14th and can''t buy a goal either.This would mean your mini league is 9th-20th, but that may be about right.

2.00 Norwich City from (14/7)	9th
1.50 Fulham (12/8)	11th
1.50 Swansea (12/8)	12th
1.88 WBA (15/8)	13th
0.71 QPR (5/7)	15th
1.13 Sunderland (9/8)	16th
1.86 Wolverhampton Wanders (13/7)	17th
1.33 Wigan Athletic (12/9)	18th
1.00 Blackburn Rovers (7/7)	19th
0.86 Bolton Wanderers (6/7)	20th

[CantonsHero 0]

LEAGUE TABLE SNAPSHOT (Week 17 - Tuesday)

21pts Norwich City (8 rivals played 5H, 3A)

18pts Fulham (8 rivals played; 3H, 5A)

18pts WBA (8 rivals played; 4H, 4A)

18pts Swansea (8 rivals played, 5H, 3A)

16pts QPR (6 rivals played, 3H, 4A)

15pts Wolverhampton Wanders (8 rivals played; 5H, 3A)

14pts Sunderland (8 rivals played; 4H. 4A)

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13pts Wigan Athletic (9 rivals played, 4H, 5A)

12pts Bolton Wanderers (8 rivals played; 2H, 6A)

10pts Blackburn Rovers (8 rivals played; 3H, 5A)

HEAD-TO-HEAD TABLE (points scored against rivals)

15pts WBA from 8 games (1.88)

15pts Norwich City from 8 games (1.88pt)

14pts Wolverhampton Wanders from 8 games (1.75)

12pts Swansea from 8 games (1.50)

12pts Fulham from 8 games (1.50)

12pts Wigan Athletic from 9 games (1.33)

9pts Sunderland from 8 games (1.13)

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9pts Bolton Wanderers from 8 games (1.13)

7pts Blackburn Rovers from 8 games (0.88)

5pts QPR from 7 games (0.71)

AVERAGES TABLE (Average point per game against rivals)

1.88 Norwich City from (15/8)

1.88 WBA (15/8)

1.75 Wolverhampton Wanders (14/8)

1.50 Swansea (12/8)

1.50 Fulham (12/8)

1.33 Wigan Athletic (12/9)

1.13 Sunderland (9/8)

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1.13 Bolton Wanderers (9/8)

0.88 Blackburn Rovers (7/8)

0.71 QPR (5/7)

[CantonsHero 0]

LEAGUE TABLE SNAPSHOT (Week 17)

21pts WBA (8 rivals played; 4H, 4A)

21pts Norwich City (8 rivals played 5H, 3A)

18pts Fulham (8 rivals played; 3H, 5A)

18pts Swansea (8 rivals played, 5H, 3A)

17pts Sunderland (9 rivals played; 4H. 5A)

16pts QPR (8 rivals played, 4H, 4A)

15pts Wolverhampton Wanders (8 rivals played; 5H, 3A)

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14pts Wigan Athletic (9 rivals played, 4H, 5A)

12pts Bolton Wanderers (8 rivals played; 2H, 6A)

10pts Blackburn Rovers (8 rivals played; 3H, 5A)

HEAD-TO-HEAD TABLE (points scored against rivals)

15pts WBA from 8 games (1.88)

15pts Norwich City from 8 games (1.88pt)

14pts Wolverhampton Wanders from 8 games (1.75)

12pts Swansea from 8 games (1.50)

12pts Fulham from 8 games (1.50)

12pts Wigan Athletic from 9 games (1.33)

12pts Sunderland from 9 games (1.33)

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9pts Bolton Wanderers from 8 games (1.13)

7pts Blackburn Rovers from 8 games (0.88)

5pts QPR from 8 games (0.63)

AVERAGES TABLE (Average point per game against rivals)

1.88 Norwich City from (15/8)

1.88 WBA (15/8)

1.75 Wolverhampton Wanders (14/8)

1.50 Swansea (12/8)

1.50 Fulham (12/8)

1.33 Wigan Athletic (12/9)

1.33 Sunderland (12/9)

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1.13 Bolton Wanderers (9/8)

0.88 Blackburn Rovers (7/8)

0.63 QPR (5/8)

QPR are in trouble. Their ratio against teams at the bottom end of the table is dreadful, and while that does mean they''ve picked up 11 points from 9 games elsewhere, quite a few of them were at the beginning of the season after their haul of newbies came in.

Well done Wigan; another good point, but annoyingly for us it means that the Norwich - relegation gap is 7 points. What is great is this next fact.

The likely Europa League position is 7th (barring annoying cup wins for lowly teams) - Norwich are closer to this position than they are to the relegation zone, as Newcastle are just 6 points clear of them.

Maybe I need a Europa League Mini-League.

Mini-League Fixtures

(MON)

Chelsea vs. Fulham

Arsenal vs. Wolves

Bolton vs. Newcastle

Liverpool vs. Blackburn

Man Utd. vs Wigan

Sunderland vs. Everton

WBA vs. Man City

Look at those fixtures!! Apart from Sunderland vs. Everton they all look extremely good fixtures for us.

(TUE)

Swansea vs. QPR

Norwich vs. Tottenham

[CantonsHero 0]

LEAGUE TABLE SNAPSHOT (Week 17)

22pts WBA (8 rivals played; 4H, 4A)

21pts Norwich City (8 rivals played 5H, 3A)

19pts Fulham (8 rivals played; 3H, 5A)

18pts Swansea (8 rivals played, 5H, 3A)

18pts Sunderland (9 rivals played; 4H. 5A)

16pts QPR (8 rivals played, 4H, 4A)

15pts Wolverhampton Wanders (8 rivals played; 5H, 3A)

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14pts Wigan Athletic (9 rivals played, 4H, 5A)

12pts Bolton Wanderers (8 rivals played; 2H, 6A)

11pts Blackburn Rovers (8 rivals played; 3H, 5A)

HEAD-TO-HEAD TABLE (points scored against rivals)

15pts WBA from 8 games (1.88)

15pts Norwich City from 8 games (1.88pt)

14pts Wolverhampton Wanders from 8 games (1.75)

12pts Swansea from 8 games (1.50)

12pts Fulham from 8 games (1.50)

12pts Wigan Athletic from 9 games (1.33)

12pts Sunderland from 9 games (1.33)

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9pts Bolton Wanderers from 8 games (1.13)

7pts Blackburn Rovers from 8 games (0.88)

5pts QPR from 8 games (0.63)

AVERAGES TABLE (Average point per game against rivals)

1.88 Norwich City from (15/8)

1.88 WBA (15/8)

1.75 Wolverhampton Wanders (14/8)

1.50 Swansea (12/8)

1.50 Fulham (12/8)

1.33 Wigan Athletic (12/9)

1.33 Sunderland (12/9)

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1.13 Bolton Wanderers (9/8)

0.88 Blackburn Rovers (7/8)

0.63 QPR (5/8)

[CantonsHero 0]

LEAGUE TABLE SNAPSHOT (Week 18)

22pts WBA (8 rivals played; 4H, 4A)

21pts Norwich City (8 rivals played 5H, 3A)

19pts Fulham (8 rivals played; 3H, 5A)

19pts Swansea (9 rivals played, 6H, 3A)

18pts Sunderland (9 rivals played; 4H. 5A)

17pts QPR (9 rivals played, 4H, 5A)

16pts Wolverhampton Wanders (8 rivals played; 5H, 3A)

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14pts Wigan Athletic (9 rivals played, 4H, 5A)

12pts Bolton Wanderers (8 rivals played; 2H, 6A)

11pts Blackburn Rovers (8 rivals played; 3H, 5A)

HEAD-TO-HEAD TABLE (points scored against rivals)

15pts WBA from 8 games (1.88)

15pts Norwich City from 8 games (1.88pt)

14pts Wolverhampton Wanders from 8 games (1.75)

13pts Swansea from 9 games (1.44)

12pts Fulham from 8 games (1.50)

12pts Wigan Athletic from 9 games (1.33)

12pts Sunderland from 9 games (1.33)

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9pts Bolton Wanderers from 8 games (1.13)

7pts Blackburn Rovers from 8 games (0.88)

6pts QPR from 9 games (0.67)

AVERAGES TABLE (Average point per game against rivals)

1.88 Norwich City from (15/8)

1.88 WBA (15/8)

1.75 Wolverhampton Wanders (14/8)

1.50 Fulham (12/8)

1.44 Swansea (13/9)

1.33 Wigan Athletic (12/9)

1.33 Sunderland (12/9)

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1.13 Bolton Wanderers (9/8)

0.88 Blackburn Rovers (7/8)

0.67 QPR (6/9)

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Most important fact:

Norwich are still 7 points clear of the relegation zone!

Saturday

Bolton vs. Wolves

Norwich vs. Fulham

Stoke vs. Wigan

[Mister Chops 7]

Current relegation odds...Blackburn 4/9Wigan 4/7Bolton 4/6Wolves 7/4Swansea 9/4QPR 3/1Norwich 11/2Others from 11/1From Canton''s stats, QPR look like they may be worth a fiver, and it might be worth a bet on Swansea to stay up.

[CantonsHero 0]

LEAGUE TABLE SNAPSHOT (Week 19 - Sat)

22pts WBA (9 rivals played; 4H, 5A)

22pts Norwich City (9 rivals played 6H, 3A)

20pts Fulham (9 rivals played; 3H, 6A)

20pts Swansea (9 rivals played, 6H, 3A)

18pts Sunderland (9 rivals played; 4H. 5A)

17pts QPR (9 rivals played, 4H, 5A)

17pts Wolverhampton Wanders (9 rivals played; 5H, 3A)

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15pts Wigan Athletic (9 rivals played, 4H, 5A)

14pts Blackburn Rovers (9 rivals played; 4H, 5A)

13pts Bolton Wanderers (9 rivals played; 3H, 6A)

HEAD-TO-HEAD TABLE (points scored against rivals)

16pts Norwich City from 9 games (1.78pt)

15pts WBA from 9 games (1.67)

15pts Wolverhampton Wanders from 9 games (1.67)

13pts Swansea from 9 games (1.44)

13pts Fulham from 9 games (1.44)

12pts Wigan Athletic from 9 games (1.33)

12pts Sunderland from 9 games (1.33)

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10pts Bolton Wanderers from 9 games (1.09)

7pts Blackburn Rovers from 9 games (0.78)

6pts QPR from 9 games (0.67)

AVERAGES TABLE (Average point per game against rivals)

1.78 Norwich City from (16/9)

1.67 Wolverhampton Wanders (15/9)

1.67 WBA (15/9)

1.44 Fulham (13/9)

1.44 Swansea (13/9)

1.33 Wigan Athletic (12/9)

1.33 Sunderland (12/9)

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1.09 Bolton Wanderers (10/9)

0.78 Blackburn Rovers (7/9)

0.67 QPR (6/9)

A few changes made overall (Blackburn mainly) as some games had been missed off. Apologies for that, but nothing really major today.

Blackburn, Swansea and Wigan today''s big winners in the mini-league, but importantly the gap to the relegation zone is still 7 points!!!

[CantonsHero 0]

LEAGUE TABLE SNAPSHOT (Week 19)

22pts WBA (9 rivals played; 4H, 5A)

22pts Norwich City (9 rivals played 6H, 3A)

21pts Sunderland (9 rivals played; 4H. 5A)

20pts Fulham (9 rivals played; 3H, 6A)

20pts Swansea (9 rivals played, 6H, 3A)

17pts QPR (9 rivals played, 4H, 5A)

17pts Wolverhampton Wanders (9 rivals played; 5H, 3A)

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15pts Wigan Athletic (9 rivals played, 4H, 5A)

14pts Blackburn Rovers (9 rivals played; 4H, 5A)

13pts Bolton Wanderers (9 rivals played; 3H, 6A)

HEAD-TO-HEAD TABLE (points scored against rivals)

16pts Norwich City from 9 games (1.78pt)

15pts WBA from 9 games (1.67)

15pts Wolverhampton Wanders from 9 games (1.67)

13pts Swansea from 9 games (1.44)

13pts Fulham from 9 games (1.44)

12pts Wigan Athletic from 9 games (1.33)

12pts Sunderland from 9 games (1.33)

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10pts Bolton Wanderers from 9 games (1.09)

7pts Blackburn Rovers from 9 games (0.78)

6pts QPR from 9 games (0.67)

AVERAGES TABLE (Average point per game against rivals)

1.78 Norwich City from (16/9)

1.67 Wolverhampton Wanders (15/9)

1.67 WBA (15/9)

1.44 Fulham (13/9)

1.44 Swansea (13/9)

1.33 Wigan Athletic (12/9)

1.33 Sunderland (12/9)

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1.09 Bolton Wanderers (10/9)

0.78 Blackburn Rovers (7/9)

0.67 QPR (6/9)

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STILL 7 POINTS UP!!!!

A win tomorrow would put us a minimum of 8 points clear.

[Bill 1,788]

"Would beg the question, would we need this? I did say any team who gets

ten points clear of the zone would be removed "

9th place some relegation place that

[CantonsHero 0]

Yep.

We''re 10 points clear now, and I feel like we''re incredibly close to being safe.

As such, Norwich City have now been removed from the League.

[CantonsHero 0]

LEAGUE TABLE SNAPSHOT (Week 20- Saturday)

Norwich City have been removed.

23pts Fulham (8 rivals played; 3H, 5A)

23pts Swansea (8 rivals played, 6H, 2A)

22pts WBA (8 rivals played; 4H, 4A)

21pts Sunderland (8 rivals played; 4H. 4A)

17pts QPR (8 rivals played, 4H, 4A)

17pts Wolverhampton Wanders (8 rivals played; 4H, 4A)

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15pts Wigan Athletic (8 rivals played, 3H, 5A)

14pts Blackburn Rovers (8 rivals played; 4H, 4A)

13pts Bolton Wanderers (8 rivals played; 2H, 6A)

HEAD-TO-HEAD TABLE (points scored against rivals)

14pts Wolverhampton Wanders from 8 games (1.75)

13pts Swansea from 8 games (1.63)

12pts WBA from 8 games (1.50)

12pts Fulham from 8 games (1.50)

12pts Sunderland from 8 games (1.50)

11pts Wigan Athletic from 8 games (1.38)

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10pts Bolton Wanderers from 8 games (1.25)

6pts Blackburn Rovers from 8 games (0.68)

6pts QPR from 8 games (0.68)

AVERAGES TABLE (Average point per game against rivals)

1.75 Wolverhampton Wanders (14/8)

1.63 Swansea (13/8)

1.50 WBA (12/8)

1.50 Fulham (12/8)

1.50 Sunderland (12/8)

1.38 Wigan Athletic (11/8)

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1.25 Bolton Wanderers (10/8)

0.68 Blackburn Rovers (6/8)

0.68 QPR (6/8)

Same old story with one team less. Will add a team into the league if they drop to within 5 points of the zone. Will remove a team if they move 10 points away.

Villa will probably be next in I would imagine with fixtures against Everton and Wolves coming up.

[Making Plans 936]

Recent form = last 8 gameshttp://stats.football365.com/dom/ENG/PR/oform.html

[Striker 2]

Always worth taking a close look at goal difference, which in effect puts us 11pts clear.Can''t believe the amount of detail people have gone into here with averages / indices / indexes etc.  It''s all irrelevant.  The only stat that matters is how far clear we are from 3rd bottom.  Keep it simple !

[nutty nigel 7,509]

Now we''re out of this "relegation mini league" maybe we can concentrate on chasing the teams above us rather than being scared of those below us. Can''t believe fans wanted to Villa claw back Swansea. Villa losing put us above them.

 

 

[YankeeCanary 0]

[quote user="CantonsHero"]Yep. We''re 10 points clear now, and I feel like we''re incredibly close to being safe. As such, Norwich City have now been removed from the League.[/quote]

 

Well done CantonsHero. Now, as this mini-league no longer involves Norwich City may I recommend to SDP that this thread be removed from here and placed on other football. [:D][:D]

[lake district canary 0]

Pardon me for commenting Canton - but I applaud you!

Lets hope Norwich can stay out of this sub-league from now on!

OTBC

 

 

 

[Bill 1,788]

"Now we''re out of this "relegation mini league" maybe we can concentrate

on chasing the teams above us rather than being scared of those below us"Gawd save us all an'' no mistake young master nigel, it h''aint for the likes of hus to get above orselve..... ever so ''umble is hor place in fings

[CantonsHero 0]

LEAGUE TABLE SNAPSHOT (Week 21- Saturday)

24pts Sunderland (9 rivals played; 4H. 5A)

23pts Fulham (9 rivals played; 3H, 6A)

23pts Swansea (8 rivals played, 6H, 2A)

22pts WBA (8 rivals played; 4H, 4A)

18pts Wolverhampton Wanders (8 rivals played; 4H, 4A)

17pts QPR (8 rivals played, 4H, 4A)

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17pts Blackburn Rovers (9 rivals played; 5H, 4A)

16pts Bolton Wanderers (8 rivals played; 2H, 6A)

15pts Wigan Athletic (9 rivals played, 4H, 5A)

HEAD-TO-HEAD TABLE (points scored against rivals)

15pts Sunderland from 9 games (1.67)

14pts Wolverhampton Wanders from 8 games (1.75)

13pts Swansea from 8 games (1.63)

12pts WBA from 8 games (1.50)

12pts Fulham from 9 games (1.33)

11pts Wigan Athletic from 9 games (1.22)

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10pts Bolton Wanderers from 8 games (1.25)

9pts Blackburn Rovers from 9 games (1.00)

6pts QPR from 8 games (0.68)

AVERAGES TABLE (Average point per game against rivals)

1.75 Wolverhampton Wanders (14/8)

1.67 Sunderland (15/9)

1.63 Swansea (13/8)

1.50 WBA (12/8)

1.33 Fulham (12/9)

1.25 Bolton Wanderers (10/8)

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1.22 Wigan Athletic (11/9)

1.00 Blackburn Rovers (9/9)

0.68 QPR (6/8)

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Bolton look like a struggling team, but they do have a whopping 6 home games against the bottom half teams. Can that help?

[Mister Chops 7]

Can we afford to focus on the FA Cup yet?

[nutty nigel 7,509]

Oh yes!!

 

Potentially 3 games from Europe[Y]

 

But we should have a European Qualification Mini League in case we have to get there via the league[;)]

 

 

 

[Bill 1,788]

"can see wolves having a good season personally....but would throw newcastle and

even fulham in there""I cannot see either Wolves or WBA struggling this season but would add Newcastle to the mix""I can see Everton, Fulham and Villa all being down there personally.

"I strongly think Sunderland will be in the mix ""Dont think QPR will be bottom 5, does anyone else?"

however not all were so halfwitted - and best summed up by"What a complete pile of hairy bol*cks."

however my favourite was -"Saying that we wont be involved in a battle to stay up is pure madness!"

City1st - loving life, high on pure madness

[CantonsHero 0]

Haha - Love it.

I think if I start this next year I''ll get lynched.