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Why did you not complain when because of tv we had to play 3 games in 6 days. The reason for the move in fixture last week was because of police advice ie supporters causing trouble - bit like your fans all around the country.

By the way do you now Robbie Savage who you gave so much grief to at your place won us the game today by getting the ref to add additional time.

Your big problem is the fans in the premiership dont want your scum fans the championship want you in the prem ( or league 1 ) so we dont have to put up with your scum fans = nobody wants you in the english game so f**k off.

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[quote user="CCFC Fan"]Cardiff played QPR on Saturday afternoon so only had 48 hours to recover to play Preston who they started off playing brilliantly against but clearly tired towards the end and probably would have drawn the game if not for some heroic defending by all and especially Mark Hudson. Nevertheless a cracking 1-0 victory to relegate Preston.

Derby also played on Saturday afternoon and only had 46 hours recovery time to play championship high flyers Norwich City and they fought very well against all the odds to try and secure themselves championship football next season while also doing Cardiff City a favour at the same time. But almost inevitably they were worn out by the crucial final quarter and were denied a point but as results went tier way they will be playing in the championship next season.

Norwich played on Thursday night so had 87 hours recovery time, almost double what city and Derby had, and they then go on to benefit from higher energy and fitness levels after a longer period of recovery to beat Derby into the ground in the final quarter and win 3-2 with a 95th minute winner.

Is this fair? Is that a level playing field at this crucial stage of the season?[/quote]Did not hear Dave Jones or your fans moaning about the fixture change when it was announced months ago. I don''t think you can shout about fairness when you are 15 plus million in debt and you get Bellamy  and Man City subsidize his wages.

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Suffolk Police DID NOT dictate when the game was to be played.

Policing is paid for by the home club, therefore it two options were presented to Ipswich Town FC

1- Play the game on the Friday and pay the police treble for working on a bank holiday

2- Play the game on the Thursday and pay the police normal wages.

Ipswich Town FC staged the game on the Thursday, in short, because they didn''t want to pay police extra money.

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[quote user="CCFC Fan"]i was just looking for some discussion and debate on the topic, not start an argument[/quote]

Honestly mate,no it''s not fair but the police made the league move the game,not our fault,to be honest i think both our clubs should be more concerned with the fact that QPR cheated and should get docked points.Also the fact that we play after you next week is a bit unfair but again not our fault.

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after reading all of the replies i must admit that it is a bit of a silly argument but i still think it is slightly unfair although every single club all over the country could argue the same exact point so it is slightly pointless

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[quote user="PhatCanary"]

[quote user="CCFC Fan"]i was just looking for some discussion and debate on the topic, not start an argument[/quote]

Honestly mate,no it''s not fair but the police made the league move the game,not our fault,to be honest i think both our clubs should be more concerned with the fact that QPR cheated and should get docked points.Also the fact that we play after you next week is a bit unfair but again not our fault.

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Hear, hear! would really love it if they were deducted 10-15 points so we would be champions and you go up in second place ;)

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[quote user="CCFC Fan"]what was the reason for the game being moved anyway? (haven''t been able to find out anywhere)[/quote]It was entirely due to Suffolk Constabulary.......The police made some lame excuse about Good Friday being a religious day - ? when''s that ever affected football KO''s ? - but the real reason was they didn''t want to pick up the huge tab for Bank Holiday wages.As it turned it probably caused more trouble than it was worth as there''s always going to be more problems at an evening fixture when everyone''s had a chance to get tanked up. Sure enough there were 19 arrests, mainly Ipswich fans but including, allegedly, one Norwich supporter in possession of Class A drugs.The 1-5 scoreline presumably had a similar effect....

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Fair play mate. To be honest, Norwich were knackered last 30 minutes and derby were just strong as us in the final few minutes - there was no noticable difference in player''s fitness whatsoever. The fact we scored late was just one of those things.

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[quote user="CCFC Fan"]Cardiff played QPR on Saturday afternoon so only had 48 hours to recover to play Preston who they started off playing brilliantly against but clearly tired towards the end and probably would have drawn the game if not for some heroic defending by all and especially Mark Hudson. Nevertheless a cracking 1-0 victory to relegate Preston. Derby also played on Saturday afternoon and only had 46 hours recovery time to play championship high flyers Norwich City and they fought very well against all the odds to try and secure themselves championship football next season while also doing Cardiff City a favour at the same time. But almost inevitably they were worn out by the crucial final quarter and were denied a point but as results went tier way they will be playing in the championship next season. Norwich played on Thursday night so had 87 hours recovery time, almost double what city and Derby had, and they then go on to benefit from higher energy and fitness levels after a longer period of recovery to beat Derby into the ground in the final quarter and win 3-2 with a 95th minute winner. Is this fair? Is that a level playing field at this crucial stage of the season?[/quote]

Who said anything in life was fair?  It''s not us fans or the clubs fault that Police/Scum club decided to alter the date and time of the game, it happens to almost every club throughout the season, especially with SKY covering a lot of matches.  Your manager/club/fans should suck it up, take it on the chin and concentrate on your own club.

The players are athletes, and to be fair and honest, if they aren''t up for the challenge of this end of the table then best they pack their bags or stay at home.  This time of year is when guts, determination, passion and fitness count. 

You won''t get any sympathy from most of us fans on here, but welcome to the forum anyhow.

 

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[quote user="CCFC Fan"]after reading all of the replies i must admit that it is a bit of a silly argument but i still think it is slightly unfair although every single club all over the country could argue the same exact point so it is slightly pointless[/quote]In all sincerity mate I have to tell you that Derby didn''t show any sign of flagging in the last quarter. I was hoping they would but they almost gave as good as they got and had a chance to snatch a winner in injury time before we scored.In any event none of this is the fault of the clubs. While Sky TV and the Police have the final say there will always be anomolies.Sorry but I can''t wish you luck in your final 2 games. I''m sure you will understand why.

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[quote user="CCFC Fan"][quote user="PhatCanary"]

[quote user="CCFC Fan"]i was just looking for some discussion and debate on the topic, not start an argument[/quote]

Honestly mate,no it''s not fair but the police made the league move the game,not our fault,to be honest i think both our clubs should be more concerned with the fact that QPR cheated and should get docked points.Also the fact that we play after you next week is a bit unfair but again not our fault.

[/quote] Hear, hear! would really love it if they were deducted 10-15 points so we would be champions and you go up in second place ;)[/quote]

 

They won''t be deducted anything I bet ya, and even if they are it wont be enough to knock them off their perch.

Secondly, you can go up in 2nd lol

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What QPR have done with Faurlin is no worse than Cardiff been ''given'' Bellamy.

Its a complete joke that a club can give a club on the verge of adminstraion and unable to make transfers one of the best Premier League players, purley because he cant be arsed to play for them anymore and want to come back home.

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It is probably a fair question to ask, but the answers seem to have been accepted, by CCFC. As for Cardiff''s fans, it should be noted that they have made big efforts in that direction and have won awards for it this season so a bit unfair to take cheap shots at them.

The only way this league would be fair is if Lambert managed every club!!!

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IS IT FAIR that you play at 17:15 on saturday and we play at 19:45.

That means you get an extra hours rest before the last game of the season

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[quote user="Canary1902"]IS IT FAIR that you play at 17:15 on saturday and we play at 19:45.

That means you get an extra hours rest before the last game of the season[/quote]

already posted above how that could work both ways

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[quote user="CCFC Fan"]thanks for the welcome[/quote]To be fair, you don''t really deserve some of the abuse in this thread as you seem to be one of the more ''pleasant'' Cardiff fans!

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[quote user="CDMullins"]What QPR have done with Faurlin is no worse than Cardiff been ''given'' Bellamy. Its a complete joke that a club can give a club on the verge of adminstraion and unable to make transfers one of the best Premier League players, purley because he cant be arsed to play for them anymore and want to come back home.[/quote]

Cardiff didn''t break any rules whereas QPR allegedly have, and seven of them, so what QPR have done is a lot worse.  !!! If we''d have got Bellamy we wouldn''t have complained.  As it stands, us and Cardiff will get the top two places anyway IMO.  

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Norwich played 3 games in 6 days. Now Cardiff have a congested calendar. It''s as broad as it''s long; but why on earth doesn''t the league schedule all fixtures equidistant? Say ''no'' to Sky, ''no'' to neighbouring police forces and play the games when they should be played. Then there could be no argument.

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The bellamy situation is far from fair how many crucial goals has he scored for them this season I bet they wouldn''t even bat an eyelid at what we were doing if they didn''t have the points from them goals they would however be moaning about what leeds and forrest are up2

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As you know, we always play an extra five minutes, or play until we score each week as it''s been put, so technically, if we all start the following game at the same time as everyone else, Norwich always get less time to prepare than the others.

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[quote user="CCFC Fan"]Cardiff played QPR on Saturday afternoon so only had 48 hours to recover to play Preston who they started off playing brilliantly against but clearly tired towards the end and probably would have drawn the game if not for some heroic defending by all and especially Mark Hudson. Nevertheless a cracking 1-0 victory to relegate Preston. Derby also played on Saturday afternoon and only had 46 hours recovery time to play championship high flyers Norwich City and they fought very well against all the odds to try and secure themselves championship football next season while also doing Cardiff City a favour at the same time. But almost inevitably they were worn out by the crucial final quarter and were denied a point but as results went tier way they will be playing in the championship next season. Norwich played on Thursday night so had 87 hours recovery time, almost double what city and Derby had, and they then go on to benefit from higher energy and fitness levels after a longer period of recovery to beat Derby into the ground in the final quarter and win 3-2 with a 95th minute winner. Is this fair? Is that a level playing field at this crucial stage of the season?[/quote]

What about the other 43 games this season? The table doesn''t lie.

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Is it fair that I have to pay for prescriptions and subsidise other parts of the UK that get them free!!!

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Jog on CCFC Fan, your sheep is waiting.

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[quote user="paul moy"]

[quote user="CDMullins"]What QPR have done with Faurlin is no worse than Cardiff been ''given'' Bellamy. Its a complete joke that a club can give a club on the verge of adminstraion and unable to make transfers one of the best Premier League players, purley because he cant be arsed to play for them anymore and want to come back home.[/quote]

Cardiff didn''t break any rules whereas QPR allegedly have, and seven of them, so what QPR have done is a lot worse.  !!! If we''d have got Bellamy we wouldn''t have complained.  As it stands, us and Cardiff will get the top two places anyway IMO.  

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Regardless of FA rules how can a club in finanicial ruin be allowed to take Craig Bellamy? Didnt they have a transfer ban at the time.

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