hucks@dh6.co.uk 0 Posted November 14, 2010 My Reading Match report is now up on www.dh6.co.uktell me what you think agree disagree. Hucks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diesel Doris 130 Posted November 14, 2010 Thanks Hucks........great as always. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bloodwagon 0 Posted November 14, 2010 Very good report, just one question, did you go or did you watch on tv (as I did) ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hucks@dh6.co.uk 0 Posted November 14, 2010 watched it on tv, made Ref''s decision even worse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gingerpele 0 Posted November 14, 2010 Good report :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bloodwagon 0 Posted November 14, 2010 The thing about that is he didnt even see the tackle on smith, (that almost took his leg off)But he did see PL go out of his area and sent him off !!!!!Seems he was not watching the match but our bench Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron obvious 1,711 Posted November 14, 2010 I wonder about Harte''s histrionics. I don''t remember him as a simulating pansy. A bash in the shin can be pretty excruciating, & I wonder if it was just one of those contacts which was painful but not serious. I particularly recall a ball going between my legs at some pace, & just playfully flicking the base of my nads as it went through ... Instant foetal position & a feeling like said organs were attempting re-entry to a position of safety.Sometimes the most innocuous injuries are the most painful. Sometimes vice-versa. I''ll never forget Stuart Pearce trying to "run off" a broken leg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
William Darby 0 Posted November 14, 2010 He had shinnies on and one particular camera angle shows that Holt hardly touched him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack Barak 46 Posted November 14, 2010 They should give Harte the three game ban and fine for being a massive girl unworthy of playing football....he should also be forced to walk through Norwich in a dress (not a nice dress).Good report Hucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gingerpele 0 Posted November 14, 2010 If they gave Harte a ban for doing that, they would have to give a ban to every other footballer that does it....there would be quite a lot of bans... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nexus_Canary 1,206 Posted November 14, 2010 Thanks Hucks ,spot on report !!Think you hit the nail on the head with your comments in regards to the "red" and your verdict on Oliver ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JF 694 Posted November 14, 2010 [quote user="Gingerpele"]If they gave Harte a ban for doing that, they would have to give a ban to every other footballer that does it....there would be quite a lot of bans...[/quote]Thats what should happen, If they started banning players for "simulation" they wouldn''t do it and the game would be alot better for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nexus_Canary 1,206 Posted November 14, 2010 [quote user="JF"][quote user="Gingerpele"]If they gave Harte a ban for doing that, they would have to give a ban to every other footballer that does it....there would be quite a lot of bans...[/quote]Thats what should happen, If they started banning players for "simulation" they wouldn''t do it and the game would be alot better for it.[/quote]In the ideal world this would happen !Players like Drogba would be looking for a transfer to Spain, he probably would be on a perma ban. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hucks@dh6.co.uk 0 Posted November 15, 2010 I''ve known Harty for a long time, he''s not the sort to try and get someone sent off, But it it didn''t look he got caught to hard, only he knows Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Attleborough_Canary 96 Posted November 15, 2010 As an ex pro Hucks, what is your view on former professionals becoming referees? Do you think they would actually want to take on the job? Would you yourself do it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete_norw 0 Posted November 15, 2010 [quote user="Attleborough_Canary"]As an ex pro Hucks, what is your view on former professionals becoming referees? Do you think they would actually want to take on the job? Would you yourself do it?[/quote]I think I could answer that one with a No, as it would take away any chance of coaching in the near future, My son is a Norfolk F A ref and he travells all over the place, he also gets pulled in for 5 a side competitions, In other words more time reffing no time for anthing else. But getting back to the point I hope the FA see sence on this matter of the red card and also hope that with the evidence shown on the Smith tackle they use it in the same way that they punnished Barton, the tackle on Smith could have put him out for months. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Attleborough_Canary 96 Posted November 15, 2010 [quote user="pete_norw"][quote user="Attleborough_Canary"]As an ex pro Hucks, what is your view on former professionals becoming referees? Do you think they would actually want to take on the job? Would you yourself do it?[/quote]I think I could answer that one with a No, as it would take away any chance of coaching in the near future, My son is a Norfolk F A ref and he travells all over the place, he also gets pulled in for 5 a side competitions, In other words more time reffing no time for anthing else. But getting back to the point I hope the FA see sence on this matter of the red card and also hope that with the evidence shown on the Smith tackle they use it in the same way that they punnished Barton, the tackle on Smith could have put him out for months. [/quote]Sorry but you haven''t answered my question at all, your son is not an ex pro. Not all former players want to get into coaching and I also asked for his views as he has an insight into this that none of us have the benefit of! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted November 15, 2010 I reckon most ex players wouldn''t touch reffing with a bargepole! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Attleborough_Canary 96 Posted November 15, 2010 [quote user="morty"]I reckon most ex players wouldn''t touch reffing with a bargepole![/quote]I agree, but with a lot of pundits and fans calling for people who have an intimate understanding of the game to become refs, it would be interesting to know if it would actualy appeal in any way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete_norw 0 Posted November 15, 2010 [quote user="Attleborough_Canary"][quote user="pete_norw"] [quote user="Attleborough_Canary"]As an ex pro Hucks, what is your view on former professionals becoming referees? Do you think they would actually want to take on the job? Would you yourself do it?[/quote]I think I could answer that one with a No, as it would take away any chance of coaching in the near future, My son is a Norfolk F A ref and he travells all over the place, he also gets pulled in for 5 a side competitions, In other words more time reffing no time for anthing else. But getting back to the point I hope the FA see sence on this matter of the red card and also hope that with the evidence shown on the Smith tackle they use it in the same way that they punnished Barton, the tackle on Smith could have put him out for months. [/quote]Sorry but you haven''t answered my question at all, your son is not an ex pro. Not all former players want to get into coaching and I also asked for his views as he has an insight into this that none of us have the benefit of![/quote]True He is not an ex pro player but he has played a lot of football and once played for Gorleston, but how many players have you heared talking about what they will be doing at the end of thier playing career,?Most of them talk of coaching badges, Not reffing, but perhaps Hucks will put your mind at rest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Attleborough_Canary 96 Posted November 15, 2010 [quote user="pete_norw"][quote user="Attleborough_Canary"][quote user="pete_norw"] [quote user="Attleborough_Canary"]As an ex pro Hucks, what is your view on former professionals becoming referees? Do you think they would actually want to take on the job? Would you yourself do it?[/quote]I think I could answer that one with a No, as it would take away any chance of coaching in the near future, My son is a Norfolk F A ref and he travells all over the place, he also gets pulled in for 5 a side competitions, In other words more time reffing no time for anthing else. But getting back to the point I hope the FA see sence on this matter of the red card and also hope that with the evidence shown on the Smith tackle they use it in the same way that they punnished Barton, the tackle on Smith could have put him out for months. [/quote]Sorry but you haven''t answered my question at all, your son is not an ex pro. Not all former players want to get into coaching and I also asked for his views as he has an insight into this that none of us have the benefit of![/quote]True He is not an ex pro player but he has played a lot of football and once played for Gorleston, but how many players have you heared talking about what they will be doing at the end of thier playing career,?Most of them talk of coaching badges, Not reffing, but perhaps Hucks will put your mind at rest [/quote]Gorleston? hmm anyways the question was directed at the only person on here with credentials to really answer it! Agreed a large number of players go into coaching and to be fair thats a much safer route but there are alot of ex player/pundit types that say there is a need for referees to have experience of the pro game and the antics that go on which do not happen in the average Sunday league game ( and the pressure that comes with it).The point really is does Darren feel that a former pro player would have better judgement of the game than someone like Oliver and would they be able to deal with situations more proficiently? Does he think any former players would take on such a role? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
William Darby 0 Posted November 15, 2010 [quote user="Attleborough_Canary"][quote user="morty"]I reckon most ex players wouldn''t touch reffing with a bargepole![/quote]I agree, but with a lot of pundits and fans calling for people who have an intimate understanding of the game to become refs, it would be interesting to know if it would actualy appeal in any way. [/quote]I''m sure L1 & L2 average players still have to find a living after football. Granted I wouldn''t hold my breath on a regular Prem player. But like a small number become managers there must be a small number who''d give reffing a try. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hucks@dh6.co.uk 0 Posted November 15, 2010 depends how long it would take to get qualified, if your talking 5-6 years can''t see players taking the time to do it, also same problem with lower league players do you think they could afford to wait even 3-4 years without earning a wage from it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Attleborough_Canary 96 Posted November 15, 2010 [quote user="hucks dh6 co uk"]depends how long it would take to get qualified, if your talking 5-6 years can''t see players taking the time to do it, also same problem with lower league players do you think they could afford to wait even 3-4 years without earning a wage from it.[/quote]Which is something I hadn''t considered. That said, a 1 week training course for a former player surely couldn''t produce worse results than those demonstrated Saturday evening! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7rew 0 Posted November 15, 2010 [quote user="Attleborough_Canary"]Which is something I hadn''t considered. That said, a 1 week training course for a former player surely couldn''t produce worse results than those demonstrated Saturday evening![/quote]Surely they could organise a course similar to the coaching badges that can be done in the off season, so players could go straight from playing to reffing in the conference and then go pro after a year of that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete_norw 0 Posted November 15, 2010 [quote user="Attleborough_Canary"][quote user="pete_norw"][quote user="Attleborough_Canary"][quote user="pete_norw"] [quote user="Attleborough_Canary"]As an ex pro Hucks, what is your view on former professionals becoming referees? Do you think they would actually want to take on the job? Would you yourself do it?[/quote]I think I could answer that one with a No, as it would take away any chance of coaching in the near future, My son is a Norfolk F A ref and he travells all over the place, he also gets pulled in for 5 a side competitions, In other words more time reffing no time for anthing else. But getting back to the point I hope the FA see sence on this matter of the red card and also hope that with the evidence shown on the Smith tackle they use it in the same way that they punnished Barton, the tackle on Smith could have put him out for months. [/quote]Sorry but you haven''t answered my question at all, your son is not an ex pro. Not all former players want to get into coaching and I also asked for his views as he has an insight into this that none of us have the benefit of![/quote]True He is not an ex pro player but he has played a lot of football and once played for Gorleston, but how many players have you heared talking about what they will be doing at the end of thier playing career,?Most of them talk of coaching badges, Not reffing, but perhaps Hucks will put your mind at rest [/quote]Gorleston? hmm anyways the question was directed at the only person on here with credentials to really answer it! Agreed a large number of players go into coaching and to be fair thats a much safer route but there are alot of ex player/pundit types that say there is a need for referees to have experience of the pro game and the antics that go on which do not happen in the average Sunday league game ( and the pressure that comes with it).The point really is does Darren feel that a former pro player would have better judgement of the game than someone like Oliver and would they be able to deal with situations more proficiently? Does he think any former players would take on such a role?[/quote]Sorry I wasn''t trying to make anything out of my son''s past connection with Gorleston in line with an ex pro Not even with my playing days with Tamworth Utd, all I was trying to say is , my lad has been around the non league for more years than Oliver has been reffing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Attleborough_Canary 96 Posted November 15, 2010 [quote user="pete_norw"][quote user="Attleborough_Canary"][quote user="pete_norw"][quote user="Attleborough_Canary"][quote user="pete_norw"] [quote user="Attleborough_Canary"]As an ex pro Hucks, what is your view on former professionals becoming referees? Do you think they would actually want to take on the job? Would you yourself do it?[/quote]I think I could answer that one with a No, as it would take away any chance of coaching in the near future, My son is a Norfolk F A ref and he travells all over the place, he also gets pulled in for 5 a side competitions, In other words more time reffing no time for anthing else. But getting back to the point I hope the FA see sence on this matter of the red card and also hope that with the evidence shown on the Smith tackle they use it in the same way that they punnished Barton, the tackle on Smith could have put him out for months. [/quote]Sorry but you haven''t answered my question at all, your son is not an ex pro. Not all former players want to get into coaching and I also asked for his views as he has an insight into this that none of us have the benefit of![/quote]True He is not an ex pro player but he has played a lot of football and once played for Gorleston, but how many players have you heared talking about what they will be doing at the end of thier playing career,?Most of them talk of coaching badges, Not reffing, but perhaps Hucks will put your mind at rest [/quote]Gorleston? hmm anyways the question was directed at the only person on here with credentials to really answer it! Agreed a large number of players go into coaching and to be fair thats a much safer route but there are alot of ex player/pundit types that say there is a need for referees to have experience of the pro game and the antics that go on which do not happen in the average Sunday league game ( and the pressure that comes with it).The point really is does Darren feel that a former pro player would have better judgement of the game than someone like Oliver and would they be able to deal with situations more proficiently? Does he think any former players would take on such a role?[/quote]Sorry I wasn''t trying to make anything out of my son''s past connection with Gorleston in line with an ex pro Not even with my playing days with Tamworth Utd, all I was trying to say is , my lad has been around the non league for more years than Oliver has been reffing [/quote]Apologies for missing the point, I just felt Hucks could offer a different angle. I guess my reply was a little condescending so please accept my apologies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete_norw 0 Posted November 15, 2010 [quote user="Attleborough_Canary"][quote user="pete_norw"][quote user="Attleborough_Canary"][quote user="pete_norw"][quote user="Attleborough_Canary"][quote user="pete_norw"] [quote user="Attleborough_Canary"]As an ex pro Hucks, what is your view on former professionals becoming referees? Do you think they would actually want to take on the job? Would you yourself do it?[/quote]I think I could answer that one with a No, as it would take away any chance of coaching in the near future, My son is a Norfolk F A ref and he travells all over the place, he also gets pulled in for 5 a side competitions, In other words more time reffing no time for anthing else. But getting back to the point I hope the FA see sence on this matter of the red card and also hope that with the evidence shown on the Smith tackle they use it in the same way that they punnished Barton, the tackle on Smith could have put him out for months. [/quote]Sorry but you haven''t answered my question at all, your son is not an ex pro. Not all former players want to get into coaching and I also asked for his views as he has an insight into this that none of us have the benefit of![/quote]True He is not an ex pro player but he has played a lot of football and once played for Gorleston, but how many players have you heared talking about what they will be doing at the end of thier playing career,?Most of them talk of coaching badges, Not reffing, but perhaps Hucks will put your mind at rest [/quote]Gorleston? hmm anyways the question was directed at the only person on here with credentials to really answer it! Agreed a large number of players go into coaching and to be fair thats a much safer route but there are alot of ex player/pundit types that say there is a need for referees to have experience of the pro game and the antics that go on which do not happen in the average Sunday league game ( and the pressure that comes with it).The point really is does Darren feel that a former pro player would have better judgement of the game than someone like Oliver and would they be able to deal with situations more proficiently? Does he think any former players would take on such a role?[/quote]Sorry I wasn''t trying to make anything out of my son''s past connection with Gorleston in line with an ex pro Not even with my playing days with Tamworth Utd, all I was trying to say is , my lad has been around the non league for more years than Oliver has been reffing [/quote]Apologies for missing the point, I just felt Hucks could offer a different angle. I guess my reply was a little condescending so please accept my apologies.[/quote]Accepted, I think I should have made my point more clearer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites