Technology isn't worth a ffffff fig in this case

[William Darby 0]

On CC ''helping the refs'' would go some way to sort out abysmal decision making. IMO in this case it wouldn''t.  Because the ref (standing what? only 5 metres away) made his mind up straight away.  If he was in two minds about giving a red, he would''ve gone for a safe yellow.

[Mahogany 0]

American football style challenges would be the way to go. Give each team 1 challenge to a decision per game and it goes to either the 4th official or the ref reviews it on TV. If its overturned then they get the challenge back if they''re wrong they don''t get another.

[Syteanric 1]

and restart the game how? if a team gets a free kick and you challenge the decision and win how do you restart the game? its not your free kick!a Light in either goal that goes green when all the ball crosses all of the line is the only technology they need.American football games last anything up to 4 hours with all the stops and starts... I have seen officials review plays for nearly 10 minutes and still not be any the wiser after reviewing multiple camera angles.. is it really worth delaying a fast moving game for this?I''m a fan of the challenge in the NFL but not in football

[Captain Holt 520]

Challenges and shiyte will never happen because it can''t be implemented at every level.

[grantroederdisaster 0]

Yes it would cause the ref wired to the 4th official watching in the stands with the benefit of TV replays would be told that it wasn''t a sending off, not even a yellow!

[Clever Farke 64]

[quote user="jas the barclay king"]and restart the game how? if a team gets a free kick and you challenge the decision and win how do you restart the game? its not your free kick!

a Light in either goal that goes green when all the ball crosses all of the line is the only technology they need.

American football games last anything up to 4 hours with all the stops and starts... I have seen officials review plays for nearly 10 minutes and still not be any the wiser after reviewing multiple camera angles.. is it really worth delaying a fast moving game for this?

I''m a fan of the challenge in the NFL but not in football
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4 hours? Is that including adverts?

Drop ball?

[Jacko 0]

You cant have a challenge system for fouls I dont think. There is too much open to interpretation. With goals and line calls in tennis the ball is either is on the line or over. So a decision is relatively simple. While obviously Holt''s sending off today was pathethic. Some tackles represent more of a grey area open to debate. For example Fabregas got a booking the other night where another referee may have awarded a red.

[Harry 0]

Todays Ref should be wired up to old sparky.[IMG]http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/2b/77/9c/electric-chair.jpg[/IMG]

[Nolly 0]

i think im the NFL they now have a time limit of a min or two to make the decision on challenges.

And it doesn''t always work as well, the rule is there has to be clear evidence to overturn the on field decision. Even with all there camera angles sometimes its not clear and the challenge fails even though its probably right.

So no not for football, bring in goal line technology yes without doubt, but challenges no. Instead improve the standard of referring and at the end of the day there''ll still be errors and you''ll have to live with that

[grantroederdisaster 0]

The arguement that TV replays would mean the game would take longer is b ollocks!

 

The time spent argueing, players rolling about, Getting the ball back into play, dropping like they''ve been shot and celebrating goals means that Technolgy viewed by a 4th official in the stands wouldn''t add any/little more time to games. Incidents could be replayed and decisions taken by the 4th officials would get back to the ref while celebrations or arguments were going on!

 

 

[Boyo 0]

[quote user="grantroederdisaster"]

The arguement that TV replays would mean the game would take longer is b ollocks![/quote]

[Y]

 

After the ref had shown Holt the red card how long did it take us to see a replay and decide than it wasn''t even a yellow?

 

30 seconds?

[Beetley Yellow 57]

Technology has to be some part in the appeal process, surely. The fact that the tackle was merely slightly late, with no real malice or intent should be apparent and I think it''s fair to say Harte''s theatrical rolling about played a huge part in Holty''s dismissal. Unless I''m mistaken Harte was back on straight after with no after effects, he played the whole 90 (or rather 96) minutes. I''d like to think, naive that I am, that all of this would be taken into account when reviewing the appeal.      

[grantroederdisaster 0]

And how long did it take for Holt to argue his case with the ref then get of the pitch before the game restarted?

 

One minute at least which would be enough time for a 4th official to look at the incident couple of times then inform the ref that it wasn''t a sending off!

 

 

[Boyo 0]

[quote user="grantroederdisaster"]

And how long did it take for Holt to argue his case with the ref then get of the pitch before the game restarted?

 

One minute at least which would be enough time for a 4th official to look at the incident couple of times then inform the ref that it wasn''t a sending off!

 

 

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[Y] Exactly.

[William Darby 0]

[quote][quote]

And how long did it take for Holt to argue his case with the ref then get of the pitch before the game restarted?

 

One minute at least which would be enough time for a 4th official to look at the incident couple of times then inform the ref that it wasn''t a sending off!

 

 

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[Y] Exactly.

[/quote]It''s all well and good which in effect is a base of a good argument.  But the problem is,  would the FA (or whomever) let referees be put in a position where they''d be forced to change their decisions?  For that reason imo it''ll never happen.The only technology we''d ever get is for goal line incidents.

[dhickl 0]

[quote user="jas the barclay king"]American football games last anything up to 4 hours with all the stops and starts... [/quote]That''s not the best of comparisons for using technology, as the 4 hour game is mainly due to the nature of the game rather than the video technology.  Changing all the players whenever posession of the ball changes takes a lot longer than checking a video.

You could compare it to tennis or rugby.  If you have watched them, it has not significantly deteriorated the game - and rugby first introduced it 14 years ago!

[grantroederdisaster 0]

Refs often get over ruled by their assistants so their ought to be no problems with them getting over ruled by a 4th official with actual TV evidence!

[Europe_93 11]

My opinion is that they need to bring in the technology to support referees. The fact that player harrang the refs like they do in professional football causes far more damage to football at its lower reaches, because the behaviour of the professionals is then re-enacted by amateurs and towards referees that don''t have six stewards and 2 coppers to escort them off the pitch at the end of the game.

If decisions were subject to TV replays then professional players would be far more accepting, rather than thinking they can influence & pressure the one man in the middle.

[Syteanric 1]

[quote user="book end"]

[quote user="jas the barclay king"]and restart the game how? if a team gets a free kick and you challenge the decision and win how do you restart the game? its not your free kick!a Light in either goal that goes green when all the ball crosses all of the line is the only technology they need.American football games last anything up to 4 hours with all the stops and starts... I have seen officials review plays for nearly 10 minutes and still not be any the wiser after reviewing multiple camera angles.. is it really worth delaying a fast moving game for this?I''m a fan of the challenge in the NFL but not in football[/quote]

4 hours? Is that including adverts?

Drop ball?

[/quote]contrary to popular belief the NFL doesnt stop for ad breaks.. they fit the ad breaks around the stops.Each of the 4 periods is scheduled to last 15 minutes.... very rarely do games last an hour, the challenges, ball going dead, 30 second "play clock" and many other things come into account...what i will say is for £40 a ticket to a game that lasts say 3 hours is excellent value for money...im a huge NFL fan and follow the game religiously... i''ll make it over to a live match in the States one day.

[Davo 0]

Jas if you are thinking of a light like they have in ice hockey even that is not infallable. The link below is a case where a goal was disallowed because the only camera angle that showed the puck going across the line was witheld from the NHL by an employee of the local TV network. Funnily enough it was the home team that benefited from this decision.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/flyers/FSN_Pittsburgh_employee_suspended_.html

Imagine how we would feel if somethign like this happened to us against the scum.

I''m not saying this would happen and I am all for TV replays to be used on incidents like goals, offsides etc.

 

Davo