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Why should we have to appeal against red cards?

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If a red card has been wrongly issued to a player then I think we should not have to appeal to have it recinded. The FA should show some courtesy to the player and the club and overturn it automatically. That really is what I would call  ''respect'' since the FA has got this supposed respect campaign. It works both ways and this would help for starters.

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Who decides that the card has been wrongly issued, except the FA? So are they to be asked to look at every red-card situation each week, in case one has been issued?

Or are you suggesting that the fourth referee should overrule the ref, or that the four of them should get together to look at things?

It is difficult to see what mechanism they could set up to make everything routine.

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There is a referees assessor at every game in the prem/football league every week who will write a report on the ref highlighting incorrect decisions. How many red cards are there in a week to look at anyway? 45 matches, 20 red cards on a very bad week. If the appeals panel are actually interested in football then all they have to is watch match of the day and the football league show then come into work monday morning with their reports. Done.

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This has to be a wind up

Allowing the fourth official or others to decide would remove the facility for a club to appeal a decision.

If you still retained that facility then having the fourth official making any decision would be pointless.

To follow the logic of the original post you would have a court system where you were found guilty or not without you having any chance of putting your case.

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Maybe I should have titled the topic ''Why should we have to appeal against red cards that are obviously not red cards but are blatant incompetence''I find it daft that if we don''t appeal Holt misses 3 games without anyone saying anything and we carry on as everything was done by the book.There is no ''sorry NCFC, our guy screwed up the other night, forget about the red card.......once again are appologies, cheers, The FA''It was there for all to see, live on Sky. Why should we go groveling?

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"red cards that are obviously not red cards but are blatant incompetence"

That is subjective.

How far from your view of blatant incompetence to slight incompetence, to 50/50 incompetence do you go. You are suggesting that we revert back to some kind of medievalsystem of trial by ordeal and ducking stools.

The current system ties in with the country''s judicial system. If you feel there has been a wrong done to you, you have the right to have that judged by a relevant court. A court that will hear your plea or your appeal (if the wrong has been done to you through a prior judgement).

What is daft is that you would have the powers of representation taken away from us and handed over for arbitary decison making. Not only is that daft it is quite frightening - back to the days pre ''habeous corpus'' when you could be hauled off to Norwich Castle and left there to rot at the pleasure of someone who considered your actions were ''blatant incompetence''. No trial, no appeal just what they decide.

The current method allows for decisions to be challenged and proven incorrect by reasomed argument and accepted evidence. You would have us go back to the days of some all powerful ruler deciding things on a whim - the thumb up or the thumb down.

No accountability and no fairness.

I just hope for your sake that you never find yourself in a place where such justice operates.

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