Jim Smith 2,610 Posted November 12, 2010 Is it because of his previous suspension or it it just a mistake in the article on the front page?Seems very harsh if correct. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sing up the river end 0 Posted November 12, 2010 I would guess it puts him on ten bookings for the season?.Or the red added makes it ten.only a guess though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pete Raven 276 Posted November 12, 2010 It''s not a mistake. It''s because of his red card. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary Man of Kent 0 Posted November 12, 2010 That makes no sense at all to me. Surely that means he''s being punished twice for the same thing?First punishment - a one game ban for two bookings in a match and the susbsequent red cardSecond punishment - staying on 4 yellows and then getting a two game ban for accumulating 5.A fair result would surely be either a two game ban for getting 6 yellows, or 1 game ban for the red and 1 game ban for 5 yellows? Stoooopid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,610 Posted November 12, 2010 [quote user="Sports Desk Pete"]It''s not a mistake. It''s because of his red card.[/quote]PeteI am perfectly happy to be proven wrong (or perhaps happy is the wrong phrase given i would not want Crofts to be suspended for 2 games) on this but I am not sure that is correct having looked at the FA Rules.You get an extra game if you get sent off and you''ve already served a suspension for being sent off (or for something missed by the ref but caught on video etc) or if you get 5 more yellow cards and you''ve already served one game suspension for 5 yellow cards but as far as i can see (FA Rulebook page 330) 5 yellows is simply a 1 game suspension and there is no mention of an extra game for having had a red previously? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pete Raven 276 Posted November 12, 2010 [quote user="Jim Smith"][quote user="Sports Desk Pete"]It''s not a mistake. It''s because of his red card.[/quote]PeteI am perfectly happy to be proven wrong (or perhaps happy is the wrong phrase given i would not want Crofts to be suspended for 2 games) on this but I am not sure that is correct having looked at the FA Rules.You get an extra game if you get sent off and you''ve already served a suspension for being sent off (or for something missed by the ref but caught on video etc) or if you get 5 more yellow cards and you''ve already served one game suspension for 5 yellow cards but as far as i can see (FA Rulebook page 330) 5 yellows is simply a 1 game suspension and there is no mention of an extra game for having had a red previously? [/quote]That''s what we were told by the football club... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,610 Posted November 12, 2010 [quote user="Sports Desk Pete"][quote user="Jim Smith"][quote user="Sports Desk Pete"]It''s not a mistake. It''s because of his red card.[/quote]PeteI am perfectly happy to be proven wrong (or perhaps happy is the wrong phrase given i would not want Crofts to be suspended for 2 games) on this but I am not sure that is correct having looked at the FA Rules.You get an extra game if you get sent off and you''ve already served a suspension for being sent off (or for something missed by the ref but caught on video etc) or if you get 5 more yellow cards and you''ve already served one game suspension for 5 yellow cards but as far as i can see (FA Rulebook page 330) 5 yellows is simply a 1 game suspension and there is no mention of an extra game for having had a red previously? [/quote]That''s what we were told by the football club...[/quote] Well I would guess the club should know these things. If only we knew some journalists who are trained to look into these things who could find out eh! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Juler 208 Posted November 12, 2010 I too have been taking a look at the rulebook and I''m withJim on this. If a player is sent off for two yellows having already been suspended under thetotting up process, then they would be subject to a two match ban, but from my interpretationof the laws reaching 5 yellow cards irrespective of the number of reds a playerhas received is only a one match ban.Maybe Archant should do some research and inform the club... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pete Raven 276 Posted November 12, 2010 [quote user="Matt Juler"]I too have been taking a look at the rulebook and I''m withJim on this. If a player is sent off for two yellows having already been suspended under thetotting up process, then they would be subject to a two match ban, but from my interpretationof the laws reaching 5 yellow cards irrespective of the number of reds a playerhas received is only a one match ban.Maybe Archant should do some research and inform the club...[/quote]Just spoke to the FA. It''s just the one game if he does get booked. Best inform the club.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,610 Posted November 12, 2010 [quote user="Sports Desk Pete"][quote user="Matt Juler"] I too have been taking a look at the rulebook and I''m with Jim on this. If a player is sent off for two yellows having already been suspended under the totting up process, then they would be subject to a two match ban, but from my interpretation of the laws reaching 5 yellow cards irrespective of the number of reds a player has received is only a one match ban.Maybe Archant should do some research and inform the club...[/quote]Just spoke to the FA. It''s just the one game if he does get booked. Best inform the club....[/quote] Thanks Pete - good work! Good to know I can still make sense of a rule book (although it does seem unecessarily complicated!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pete Raven 276 Posted November 12, 2010 [quote user="Jim Smith"][quote user="Sports Desk Pete"][quote user="Matt Juler"] I too have been taking a look at the rulebook and I''m with Jim on this. If a player is sent off for two yellows having already been suspended under the totting up process, then they would be subject to a two match ban, but from my interpretation of the laws reaching 5 yellow cards irrespective of the number of reds a player has received is only a one match ban.Maybe Archant should do some research and inform the club...[/quote]Just spoke to the FA. It''s just the one game if he does get booked. Best inform the club....[/quote] Thanks Pete - good work! Good to know I can still make sense of a rule book (although it does seem unecessarily complicated!)[/quote]The FA Handbook is essential reading if you have trouble sleeping. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ca 1 Posted November 12, 2010 Well I dont want him to miss the Ipswich game so would rather he got himself a yellow card against reading and missed Leeds.Its a certainity that he wont go uncarded for both Reading and Leeds, he''s tough tackler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,610 Posted November 12, 2010 [quote user="cityangel"]Well I dont want him to miss the Ipswich game so would rather he got himself a yellow card against reading and missed Leeds.Its a certainity that he wont go uncarded for both Reading and Leeds, he''s tough tackler.[/quote]I think I agree. Whilst any game is only worth 3 points I think Ipswich are a better side than Leeds and I really want us to be at full strength for that one and give a good account of ourselves. Leeds are decent away but i still think we could get something from that game without him.You never know. I agree its unlikely but maybe he won''t get booked in either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pete Raven 276 Posted November 12, 2010 Looks like you may get your wish looking at the ref for tomorrow CA....www.soccerbase.com/refs2.sd?refid=1025&seasonid=140 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary Man of Kent 0 Posted November 12, 2010 I think it''s perfectly feasible that he''ll avoid bookings against Reading and Leeds - he''s only been booked 5 (or 6) times in 18 matches. So on the assumption of 1 booking every 3 games he''ll get one against Ipswich... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete_norw 0 Posted November 12, 2010 [quote user="Sports Desk Pete"][quote user="Jim Smith"][quote user="Sports Desk Pete"][quote user="Matt Juler"] I too have been taking a look at the rulebook and I''m with Jim on this. If a player is sent off for two yellows having already been suspended under the totting up process, then they would be subject to a two match ban, but from my interpretation of the laws reaching 5 yellow cards irrespective of the number of reds a player has received is only a one match ban.Maybe Archant should do some research and inform the club...[/quote]Just spoke to the FA. It''s just the one game if he does get booked. Best inform the club....[/quote] Thanks Pete - good work! Good to know I can still make sense of a rule book (although it does seem unecessarily complicated!)[/quote]The FA Handbook is essential reading if you have trouble sleeping.[/quote]I''ll give that a try then, my sleeping pills don''t work Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ca 1 Posted November 20, 2010 Be a good boy today Crofts, no yellow card please as we need you for next week [:)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites