Fans Forum tonight

[Bill 1,788]

"........but Cullum?? where do you get that from. Here was an investor who ticked all Delia''s boxes apart from one, he wanted a say in what happened with his money (understandable i would think).

I wouldn''t call anyone a chancer who offers his home town team £20m when there bottom of the table to help them out and the offer was still there 6 months later when it was revealed no one at the club had even spoken to him. Surely a chancer would have gone long before that "

The frightening thing is I think you actually belief that.

Here we had a chancer on the make. Something that was blindingly obvious to anyone who bothered to read beyond the headlines - yet still with have people who would claim to support the club and don''t think it worth their while to read what has been common knowledge for the past couple of years.

I''ll be generous and presume that you have forgotten the facts behind Cullum''s dodge.

Cullum gobbed off to the press around Xmas ''07 that he was willing to put up £5m to buy players for the club. As was obvious to anyone with an IQ higher than their age this was merely a ''rous'' to see how desperate the club were. No offers, no formal statement to the club, merely bluff trailed through the press.

This ''offer'' was further followed by an even more outlandish figure of £20m. Although there was still nothing tangible Culllum let it be known that in this case he wanted control of the club. - NOT, ''a say in what happened with his money ''

Even if the Smiths were o happily handover the club to him for nothing there would still be the need to pay off the debts - or try and renegotiate them Paying off the debts would wipe out the £20m.

Stretching it as far as possible and allowing that the Smiths would hand over their share of the club for nothing, the banks would renegotiate the loans with little or no gurantee there would still be the problem of finding the extra £20m to pay the wages that £20m''s worth of contracts would cost.

It was a no go from the start and so was treated as such. Had everyone connected with the club from the owners, the directors, to the banks had a mad fit and contrived to allow this to happen - the club would have ceased to exist within a season or two.

Which brings me back to my earlier point. There seems to be this willingness to believe whatever nonsense spouted by an ''hinvestor''. A look down the A140 is a clear example of this. Accepting that many of our suffolk brethren are not cockneys, as they would like us to believe, but are dimwitted farmhands that still should be no excuse for spouting off twaddle about their club''s finances when the evidence is there to read - provided by their OWN CLUB !

The guff the binners spout is usually on the lines of

- ''debt can''t be repaid until 5 years in the Rremiership. Nonsense. That time period relates to the preference shares (£8.1m) only of which Evans is charging the paupers interest every year. (Note, the Smiths are not charging City for their loans)

- "£12m was given to Magilton to spend on players. Nonsense. A large part of the orginal money, £3.9m to buy the club and the £8.1m (above) was to be used '' ...to fund short term losses arising from player wages''

- The club is part of the Marcus Evans group so cannot go bust. Nonsense. The club is a seperate entity that is 87.5% owned by Marcus Evans Investments and so can be made bankrupt or sold as and when the owners decide.

Little by little the delusions the suffolk simpletons conjured up are slowly unravelling. The debt to Norwich Union has not gone away, in fact they still owe the same amount and are still being charged interest on the full amount (not the far lower amount Evans is supposed to have settled with Norwich Union). Meaning their debts have increased by an extra £15m since they acquired an ''hinvestor'' !

Expenditure is being slashed. The wage bill has been cut dramatically as have the squad. It is no concidence that 20 players are out of contract next June - as is the manager. No coincidence that the squad is being propped up with low waged youth players on loan and club youth players.

So much for the endless streams of money that were to come into the club. Nothing was to stand in the way of promotion, they told themselves. Even the agreement to have three former directors and three of Evans men running the club was quickly abandoned.

Now, no one is suggesting fans become corporate lawyers or spend hours poring over detailed club accounts - but when the evidence is so readily available that you would have to go out of you way to avoid it then the conclusion must be that in many cases fans get all they deserve.

(though whether we deserve the usual trolls attacking the club is another matter I''m afraid).

ps the evidence for the paupers is here -

http://www.itfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10272~1181533,00.html

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Getting back to the topic of the fans forum it said in the paper today that Drury was 3/4 weeks away from playing and Surman, Whitbread/Nelson were longer, that isnt what Lambert said or did I mis hear him??

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As some people seem to think a football club is a brilliant investment no doubt they will snap up the shares mentioned elsewhere unless they are just trolling of course

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[quote user="Mello Yello"]

[quote user="T"]At which point do people grasp that there is not a queue of mega rich benefactors desperate to throw their money away on subsidising the weekend entertainment of a bunch of miserable, whinging,  ungrateful old gits at a division 2 club stuck in the middle of nowhere?[/quote]

One does seriously wonder, how an astute and vibrant (and no doubt) highly successful city slicker of a business type like yourself......is ever able find the valuable free time, to drag yourself away from the chaotic and hectic world of stocks, shares - and the weird wizardry of world finance?....

Then to grace us with your esteemed presence....and then amaze and astound a ''know nowt'' bunch of miserable, whingeing and ungrateful old gits like us, with your pompous and patronising tales of the blatently obvious - as you dourly deposit your dull and insignificant three-penneth of rambling retort on here, a simple ''two-bit'' football forum.

 

Maybe you''re actually, not a ''high-flyer'' at all?.....But in reality, you''re just a senior accountant''s snotty, spotty, tea makin'' biscuit pinchin'' and obstinate oik of a petulant brat - who likes to ''give it large'' on your ''pay as you go'' (dongle attached) electronic notebook....precariously balanced on your naked and acne-addled flabby thighs - whilst you take a dump (in firm''s time) on the company crapper....

That is where, you probably feel the most inspired - to contribute on here......         

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mello and his inferiority complex again. What do you do in your spare time? Draw the cartoons for the Socialist Worker?

[Mello Yello 2,289]

[quote user="Raymond Getärd"][quote user="Mello Yello"]

[quote user="T"]At which point do people grasp that there is not a queue of mega rich benefactors desperate to throw their money away on subsidising the weekend entertainment of a bunch of miserable, whinging,  ungrateful old gits at a division 2 club stuck in the middle of nowhere?[/quote]

One does seriously wonder, how an astute and vibrant (and no doubt) highly successful city slicker of a business type like yourself......is ever able find the valuable free time, to drag yourself away from the chaotic and hectic world of stocks, shares - and the weird wizardry of world finance?....

Then to grace us with your esteemed presence....and then amaze and astound a ''know nowt'' bunch of miserable, whingeing and ungrateful old gits like us, with your pompous and patronising tales of the blatently obvious - as you dourly deposit your dull and insignificant three-penneth of rambling retort on here, a simple ''two-bit'' football forum.

 

Maybe you''re actually, not a ''high-flyer'' at all?.....But in reality, you''re just a senior accountant''s snotty, spotty, tea makin'' biscuit pinchin'' and obstinate oik of a petulant brat - who likes to ''give it large'' on your ''pay as you go'' (dongle attached) electronic notebook....precariously balanced on your naked and acne-addled flabby thighs - whilst you take a dump (in firm''s time) on the company crapper....

That is where, you probably feel the most inspired - to contribute on here......         

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mello and his inferiority complex again. What do you do in your spare time? Draw the cartoons for the Socialist Worker?

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Inferiority complex?.....

 

That''s quite weird coming from a cranky individual - who finds it necessary to frequently change their avatar and name.....

 

What do you do in your spare time? Go straight to the cartoon page when you purchase the Socialist Worker...?

 

 

 

 

 

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[quote user="T"]As some people seem to think a football club is a brilliant investment no doubt they will snap up the shares mentioned elsewhere unless they are just trolling of course[/quote]It was just that when Smith rode into town and cynically ousted our best ever Chairman Robert Chase......Having buggered it up nicely since then however..... it no longer is.

[nutty nigel 7,528]

[quote user="City1st A look down the A140 is a clear example of this. Accepting that many of our suffolk brethren are not cockneys, as they would like us to believe, but are dimwitted farmhands that still should be no excuse for spouting off twaddle about their club''s finances when the evidence is there to read - provided by their OWN CLUB ! The guff the binners spout is usually on the lines of - ''debt can''t be repaid until 5 years in the Rremiership. Nonsense. That time period relates to the preference shares (£8.1m) only of which Evans is charging the paupers interest every year. (Note, the Smiths are not charging City for their loans) - "£12m was given to Magilton to spend on players. Nonsense. A large part of the orginal money, £3.9m to buy the club and the £8.1m (above) was to be used '' ...to fund short term losses arising from player wages'' - The club is part of the Marcus Evans group so cannot go bust. Nonsense. The club is a seperate entity that is 87.5% owned by Marcus Evans Investments and so can be made bankrupt or sold as and when the owners decide. Little by little the delusions the suffolk simpletons conjured up are slowly unravelling. The debt to Norwich Union has not gone away, in fact they still owe the same amount and are still being charged interest on the full amount (not the far lower amount Evans is supposed to have settled with Norwich Union). Meaning their debts have increased by an extra £15m since they acquired an ''hinvestor'' ! Expenditure is being slashed. The wage bill has been cut dramatically as have the squad. It is no concidence that 20 players are out of contract next June - as is the manager. No coincidence that the squad is being propped up with low waged youth players on loan and club youth players. So much for the endless streams of money that were to come into the club. Nothing was to stand in the way of promotion, they told themselves. Even the agreement to have three former directors and three of Evans men running the club was quickly abandoned. Now, no one is suggesting fans become corporate lawyers or spend hours poring over detailed club accounts - but when the evidence is so readily available that you would have to go out of you way to avoid it then the conclusion must be that in many cases fans get all they deserve. (though whether we deserve the usual trolls attacking the club is another matter I''m afraid). ps the evidence for the paupers is here - http://www.itfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10272~1181533,00.html[/quote]

I''ve seen much the same sentiments spouted off on this forum!

As for the Norwich shares that are available to buy, that''s the real world so we shouldn''t get confused between this forum and the real world. On here we are free to discuss what we would do. We are all football managers and know best. We are all CE''s and know best. In real life we are just butchers, bakers and candlestick makers. And that''s how it should stay.

 

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Well said City1st!

 

What is said in the press and what is actually attainable are more often than not 2 different things, as we are seeing at the S cum!

 

For instance Di Stefano or however you spell his name bought Dundee a few years back then  a couple of months afterwards took them into administration. If he couldn''t afford to run a club in Scotland who get crowds you could fit into the Barclay stand (lower tier on most occasions) in a League where the expenses would be much lower than the Championship then it doesn''t bear thinking about what damage he''d of done to our club!

F uckbert Chase sounds more and more t wattish with every post he/she makes!

 

Robert Chases policy of sell for big money and replace with cheaper versions while buying up land worked until 1993/94 and we benefited from the land deals in later years but by the time he finally left in 1996 he''d gone as far as he could and nearly bankrupted the club. His time had come and gone.

 

I''ll be the 1st to admit that Delia and Co have made some cock ups but it could be far far worse. Look at Bradford City now who were until 2001 a Premiership club. Show me someone whos never made a cock up in life!

 

When I refrred to half of our debt being like a mortgage, I used it as an example cause many fans get carried away with the figures of our debt when they see the £20 whatever M the club owe. Yes its a debt but its one the club are paying off comfortably.

 

Oh how I wish that F uckbert Chase had the money to buy the club cause he/she seems to know it all (in reality knows F uckall!) and would make running the club so easy and successful!

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[quote user="nutty nigel"]

[quote user="City1st A look down the A140 is a clear example of this. Accepting that many of our suffolk brethren are not cockneys, as they would like us to believe, but are dimwitted farmhands that still should be no excuse for spouting off twaddle about their club''s finances when the evidence is there to read - provided by their OWN CLUB ! The guff the binners spout is usually on the lines of - ''debt can''t be repaid until 5 years in the Rremiership. Nonsense. That time period relates to the preference shares (£8.1m) only of which Evans is charging the paupers interest every year. (Note, the Smiths are not charging City for their loans) - "£12m was given to Magilton to spend on players. Nonsense. A large part of the orginal money, £3.9m to buy the club and the £8.1m (above) was to be used '' ...to fund short term losses arising from player wages'' - The club is part of the Marcus Evans group so cannot go bust. Nonsense. The club is a seperate entity that is 87.5% owned by Marcus Evans Investments and so can be made bankrupt or sold as and when the owners decide. Little by little the delusions the suffolk simpletons conjured up are slowly unravelling. The debt to Norwich Union has not gone away, in fact they still owe the same amount and are still being charged interest on the full amount (not the far lower amount Evans is supposed to have settled with Norwich Union). Meaning their debts have increased by an extra £15m since they acquired an ''hinvestor'' ! Expenditure is being slashed. The wage bill has been cut dramatically as have the squad. It is no concidence that 20 players are out of contract next June - as is the manager. No coincidence that the squad is being propped up with low waged youth players on loan and club youth players. So much for the endless streams of money that were to come into the club. Nothing was to stand in the way of promotion, they told themselves. Even the agreement to have three former directors and three of Evans men running the club was quickly abandoned. Now, no one is suggesting fans become corporate lawyers or spend hours poring over detailed club accounts - but when the evidence is so readily available that you would have to go out of you way to avoid it then the conclusion must be that in many cases fans get all they deserve. (though whether we deserve the usual trolls attacking the club is another matter I''m afraid). ps the evidence for the paupers is here - http://www.itfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10272~1181533,00.html[/quote]

I''ve seen much the same sentiments spouted off on this forum!

As for the Norwich shares that are available to buy, that''s the real world so we shouldn''t get confused between this forum and the real world. On here we are free to discuss what we would do. We are all football managers and know best. We are all CE''s and know best. In real life we are just butchers, bakers and candlestick makers. And that''s how it should stay.

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Speak for yourself.

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[nutty nigel 7,528]

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Speak for yourself.

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That''s what most people do on here. And there''s not even a requirement for posts to be factually correct.

 

So I''m thinking about buying all those shares[Y]

 

Only on here though[H]

 

But on here.....

 

That''s all that matters.

 

 

 

 

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[quote user="T"]As some people seem to think a football club is a brilliant investment no doubt they will snap up the shares mentioned elsewhere unless they are just trolling of course[/quote]

Yes, if we''re top 3 or so by year end, many fans might think that digging into their pockets for a few ( or indeed some for many) shares is a worthwhile investment in trying to help their club over the line by May 2011. Just like we did to help get in Hucks et al for Worthington.  

Or is it that you think that Worthy''s team was worth the effort and support, but Lambert''s isn''t?

Proceed like you and your fellow travellers and I can virtually guarantee as I said elsewhere that Lambert and McNally will be on their bikes before you can say Bob''s yer uncle. And where would that leave our club?

It''s not a question of a financial investment; it''s an emotional or altruistic investment that brightens peoples lives and gives them the opportunity to participate in an additional tangible way towards a mutual drive for success.  Are you going to tell me that there''s one man or woman alive who regrets helping to bring Hucks & Co here via that share issue - even although we went right up and down.

Lambert already said (unprovoked) that he can''t make money out of stone............... Be warned

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[quote user="grantroederdisaster"]

Well said City1st!

 

What is said in the press and what is actually attainable are more often than not 2 different things, as we are seeing at the S cum!

 

For instance Di Stefano or however you spell his name bought Dundee a few years back then  a couple of months afterwards took them into administration. If he couldn''t afford to run a club in Scotland who get crowds you could fit into the Barclay stand (lower tier on most occasions) in a League where the expenses would be much lower than the Championship then it doesn''t bear thinking about what damage he''d of done to our club!

F uckbert Chase sounds more and more t wattish with every post he/she makes!

 

Robert Chases policy of sell for big money and replace with cheaper versions while buying up land worked until 1993/94 and we benefited from the land deals in later years but by the time he finally left in 1996 he''d gone as far as he could and nearly bankrupted the club. His time had come and gone.

 

I''ll be the 1st to admit that Delia and Co have made some cock ups but it could be far far worse. Look at Bradford City now who were until 2001 a Premiership club. Show me someone whos never made a cock up in life!

 

When I refrred to half of our debt being like a mortgage, I used it as an example cause many fans get carried away with the figures of our debt when they see the £20 whatever M the club owe. Yes its a debt but its one the club are paying off comfortably.

 

Oh how I wish that F uckbert Chase had the money to buy the club cause he/she seems to know it all (in reality knows F uckall!) and would make running the club so easy and successful!

[/quote]Glad you enjoy my input. Yours makes me laugh as well.Well done. [*]

[Bill 1,788]

"it''s an emotional or altruistic investment that brightens peoples lives and gives them the opportunity to participate in an additional tangible way towards a mutual drive for success"

Unfortunately not in the case at poorman road where the money handed over by the ever dimwitted binners (for shares) barely covered the pay off given to Finido George.

Any value they may ever have had were then virtually wiped away as IT plc''s holding in the club was reduced to 12.5% of it''s original worth.

Still, on the positive side I''m sure those IT plc share certificates look good stuck to the bedroom wall next to all the fading black and white press cuttings of their ''glorious history''.

[TIL 1010 4,737]

[quote user="Cluckbert Chase"][quote user="T"]As some people seem to think a football club is a brilliant investment no doubt they will snap up the shares mentioned elsewhere unless they are just trolling of course[/quote]

It was just that when Smith rode into town and cynically ousted our best ever Chairman Robert Chase......

Having buggered it up nicely since then however..... it no longer is.
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So "Smith rode into town and cynically ousted our best ever Chairman Robert Chase".Cluckbert i think you have been at the cuttlefish as my take on it was that Barclays Bank were 24 hours from taking the keys to Carrow Road from Chase.This was due to him not being able to service the short term unsecured loans hence the fire sale of Ward and Newsome and he eventually quit.Geoffrey Watling stepped into the breach on a temporary basis and then along came Delia.

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[quote user="TIL 1010"]

[quote user="Cluckbert Chase"][quote user="T"]As some people seem to think a football club is a brilliant investment no doubt they will snap up the shares mentioned elsewhere unless they are just trolling of course[/quote]It was just that when Smith rode into town and cynically ousted our best ever Chairman Robert Chase......Having buggered it up nicely since then however..... it no longer is.[/quote]

So "Smith rode into town and cynically ousted our best ever Chairman Robert Chase".Cluckbert i think you have been at the cuttlefish as my take on it was that Barclays Bank were 24 hours from taking the keys to Carrow Road from Chase.This was due to him not being able to service the short term unsecured loans hence the fire sale of Ward and Newsome and he eventually quit.Geoffrey Watling stepped into the breach on a temporary basis and then along came Delia.

[/quote]Utter twaddle.... But then you plods are educated (?) to perpetrate and spread false propaganda aren''t you?It also makes me laugh that "Chase sold the family jewels"... when they were his to sell in the first place. Who acquired these players originally then?  Players are assets.... and assets are there to be sold as and when required.As for the Barclays Bank bollox.... don''t believe all you hear..... as in very recent Portsmouth charade. It was simply spin to usher in the cook and set the ''saviour'' take in concrete.And so the myth continues............

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[quote user="Cluckbert Chase"][quote user="TIL 1010"]

[quote user="Cluckbert Chase"][quote user="T"]As some people seem to think a football club is a brilliant investment no doubt they will snap up the shares mentioned elsewhere unless they are just trolling of course[/quote]

It was just that when Smith rode into town and cynically ousted our best ever Chairman Robert Chase......

Having buggered it up nicely since then however..... it no longer is.
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So "Smith rode into town and cynically ousted our best ever Chairman Robert Chase".Cluckbert i think you have been at the cuttlefish as my take on it was that Barclays Bank were 24 hours from taking the keys to Carrow Road from Chase.This was due to him not being able to service the short term unsecured loans hence the fire sale of Ward and Newsome and he eventually quit.Geoffrey Watling stepped into the breach on a temporary basis and then along came Delia.

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Utter twaddle.... But then you plods are educated (?) to perpetrate and spread false propaganda aren''t you?

It also makes me laugh that "Chase sold the family jewels"... when they were his to sell in the first place. Who acquired these players originally then?  Players are assets.... and assets are there to be sold as and when required.

As for the Barclays Bank bollox.... don''t believe all you hear..... as in very recent Portsmouth charade. It was simply spin to usher in the cook and set the ''saviour'' take in concrete.

And so the myth continues............


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Whatever you say bird brain.However what do you know about bollox as your mob only have vents? That is not propaganda because Nutty told me so it must be factual and true.Mind you getting facts out of him is like trying to nail a jelly to a wall.

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[quote user="TIL 1010"][quote user="Cluckbert Chase"][quote user="TIL 1010"]

[quote user="Cluckbert Chase"][quote user="T"]As some people seem to think a football club is a brilliant investment no doubt they will snap up the shares mentioned elsewhere unless they are just trolling of course[/quote]It was just that when Smith rode into town and cynically ousted our best ever Chairman Robert Chase......Having buggered it up nicely since then however..... it no longer is.[/quote]

So "Smith rode into town and cynically ousted our best ever Chairman Robert Chase".Cluckbert i think you have been at the cuttlefish as my take on it was that Barclays Bank were 24 hours from taking the keys to Carrow Road from Chase.This was due to him not being able to service the short term unsecured loans hence the fire sale of Ward and Newsome and he eventually quit.Geoffrey Watling stepped into the breach on a temporary basis and then along came Delia.

[/quote]Utter twaddle.... But then you plods are educated (?) to perpetrate and spread false propaganda aren''t you?It also makes me laugh that "Chase sold the family jewels"... when they were his to sell in the first place. Who acquired these players originally then?  Players are assets.... and assets are there to be sold as and when required.As for the Barclays Bank bollox.... don''t believe all you hear..... as in very recent Portsmouth charade. It was simply spin to usher in the cook and set the ''saviour'' take in concrete.And so the myth continues............

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Whatever you say bird brain.However what do you know about bollox as your mob only have vents? That is not propaganda because *Nutty told me so it must be factual and true.Mind you getting facts out of him is like trying to nail a jelly to a wall.

[/quote]*Persona non grata.....As for bollox.... when you''re used to hanging around on nuts all day you get to know which is bollox and which isn''t.As for believing what you hear.... you can if it comes from me. I''m always right.

[nutty nigel 7,528]

[quote user="Cluckbert Chase"]

Utter twaddle.... But then you plods are educated (?) to perpetrate and spread false propaganda aren''t you?

It also makes me laugh that "Chase sold the family jewels"... when they were his to sell in the first place. Who acquired these players originally then?  Players are assets.... and assets are there to be sold as and when required.

As for the Barclays Bank bollox.... don''t believe all you hear..... as in very recent Portsmouth charade. It was simply spin to usher in the cook and set the ''saviour'' take in concrete.

And so the myth continues............


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You children of the sixties certainly had it in for our much loved Geoffrey Watling. In life you called him every name under the sun as long as it rhymed with zigger or tanker and now in death you accuse him of being behind a conspiracy to oust Big Bad Bob and make the way clear for the wicked cook and her cohorts.

 

You were a whole generation with a new explanation.......

But obviously not all gentle people with flowers in their hair[W]

 

 

[BlyBlyBabes 0]

''My name is not Nutty, it''s nutty!!!!!!!!''

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[nutty nigel 7,528]

[quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]

''My name is not Nutty, it''s nutty!!!!!!!!''

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No my name is nutty, and I am nutty, but not nutty enough to believe the late great Geoffrey Watling could be so devious.

What say you Babes[:^)]

 

 

[TIL 1010 4,737]

[quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]

''My name is not Nutty, it''s nutty!!!!!!!!''

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No my name is nutty, and I am nutty, but not nutty enough to believe the late great Geoffrey Watling could be so devious.

What say you Babes[:^)]

 

 

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Glad to see it is just not NCISA that get under under skin weather vane Nutty.Nice to see you want a 20 pager with the fool from across the pond.[;)]

[nutty nigel 7,528]

This won''t run to 20 pages Tilly old boy. They won''t come near it now the Watling slurs are out in the open rather than just veiled suggetions.

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[BlyBlyBabes 0]

[quote user="nutty nigel"]

This won''t run to 20 pages Tilly old boy. They won''t come near it now the Watling slurs are out in the open rather than just veiled suggetions.

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Guilty feelings bothering you after all these years?

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[quote user="nutty nigel"]

This won''t run to 20 pages Tilly old boy. They won''t come near it now the Watling slurs are out in the open rather than just veiled suggetions.

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Do you realise Nutty that''s nigh on THREE generations ago.

The flowers have long wilted, the scooters and bikes rusted and gone.

Can''t get into the drain pipes and brothel creepers anymore.

Don''t you think it''s time that you buried this along with them?

[nutty nigel 7,528]

[quote user="The Butler"][quote user="nutty nigel"]

This won''t run to 20 pages Tilly old boy. They won''t come near it now the Watling slurs are out in the open rather than just veiled suggetions.

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Do you realise Nutty that''s nigh on THREE generations ago.

The flowers have long wilted, the scooters and bikes rusted and gone.

Can''t get into the drain pipes and brothel creepers anymore.

Don''t you think it''s time that you buried this along with them?

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That''s fine Butler. And yes I''d dearly love to move on. But I''m afraid I won''t while others make ridiculous and unfounded statements on this forum. As with the other thread about nCIsA''s past, where our friend Beaus got in a huff, I was only reacting to a previous post on that thread. Very rarely if ever do I instigate posts about the bad times in the club''s past. But I do react to others.

 

Now my input in this thread was a reaction to these nasty and veiled slurs against Geoffrey Watling :-

 

"As for the Barclays Bank bollox.... don''t believe all you hear..... as in very recent Portsmouth charade. It was simply spin to usher in the cook and set the ''saviour'' take in concrete.

And so the myth continues............"

 

I don''t believe Watling deserves to be treated this way.