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Okay, so we lost today. I understand. I feel your pain. But let us not stand idly by and waste time in over-analysing the reasons, for the fact is this: despite losing today, we dominated the match and won each of the key battles.

Now is the time for us to move this club forward, to unite and stand firmly behind what we agree in, and to energise our grass roots supporters so they spread the word of what we believe - passing football, flowing football, attacking football for the working men and women of Norwich City, a place I am proud to call my second home.

Together, working as a team, we can achieve great things. We can reach the promised land, whether that be the Premier League or Downing Street - or, indeed, both. And I, your new leader, will promise you this - right here, right now - there are better days ahead for each and every person who belongs to this team I am proud to call my team.

God bless you. God bless Paul Lambert. And God bless Norwich City Football Club. Thank you, and good night.

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[quote user="Ed Miliband"]Okay, so we lost today. I understand. I feel your pain. But let us not stand idly by and waste time in over-analysing the reasons, for the fact is this: despite losing today, we dominated the match and won each of the key battles.

Now is the time for us to move this club forward, to unite and stand firmly behind what we agree in, and to energise our grass roots supporters so they spread the word of what we believe - passing football, flowing football, attacking football for the working men and women of Norwich City, a place I am proud to call my second home.

Together, working as a team, we can achieve great things. We can reach the promised land, whether that be the Premier League or Downing Street - or, indeed, both. And I, your new leader, will promise you this - right here, right now - there are better days ahead for each and every person who belongs to this team I am proud to call my team.

God bless you. God bless Paul Lambert. And God bless Norwich City Football Club. Thank you, and good night.[/quote]Isn''t Ed Balls enough for any club to have to bear?

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[quote user="GenerationA47"]Hi, Ed. You have a talent for very topical parody... are you behind Bob the Builder, too?[/quote]

LOL

A "lets get behind the team thread", christ the seasons only just started, like it or not we are the new boys in this league, and a year ago we were losing 7-1 at home to Colchester.

I dont think a rallying call to get behind the team is essential mate.

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[quote user="Cluckbert Chase"]

Isn''t Ed Balls enough for any club to have to bear?
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That''s allowed, it''s when they handle it that it becomes an offence. Sorry Cluckbert, but you''ve clearly misread the rules of the game badly all these years.

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[quote user="GenerationA47"]

[quote user="Cluckbert Chase"]Isn''t Ed Balls enough for any club to have to bear?[/quote]

That''s allowed, it''s when they handle it that it becomes an offence. Sorry Cluckbert, but you''ve clearly misread the rules of the game badly all these years.

[/quote]That was pretty impressive..........  [:)]

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[quote user="Ed Miliband"]Okay, so we lost today. I understand. I feel your pain. But let us not stand idly by and waste time in over-analysing the reasons, for the fact is this: despite losing today, we dominated the match and won each of the key battles.

Now is the time for us to move this club forward, to unite and stand firmly behind what we agree in, and to energise our grass roots supporters so they spread the word of what we believe - passing football, flowing football, attacking football for the working men and women of Norwich City, a place I am proud to call my second home.

Together, working as a team, we can achieve great things. We can reach the promised land, whether that be the Premier League or Downing Street - or, indeed, both. And I, your new leader, will promise you this - right here, right now - there are better days ahead for each and every person who belongs to this team I am proud to call my team.

God bless you. God bless Paul Lambert. And God bless Norwich City Football Club. Thank you, and good night.[/quote]I thought you''d be more into rugby, Ed.  Particularly the union variety.

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[quote user="Ed Miliband"]Okay, so we lost today. I understand. I feel your pain. But let us not stand idly by and waste time in over-analysing the reasons, for the fact is this: despite losing today, we dominated the match and won each of the key battles. Now is the time for us to move this club forward, to unite and stand firmly behind what we agree in, and to energise our grass roots supporters so they spread the word of what we believe - passing football, flowing football, attacking football for the working men and women of Norwich City, a place I am proud to call my second home. Together, working as a team, we can achieve great things. We can reach the promised land, whether that be the Premier League or Downing Street - or, indeed, both. And I, your new leader, will promise you this - right here, right now - there are better days ahead for each and every person who belongs to this team I am proud to call my team. God bless you. God bless Paul Lambert. And God bless Norwich City Football Club. Thank you, and good night.[/quote]

Ed, these two sterling chaps are your new Manager and Coach... 

If you do as you''re told by these two.....you''ll go far.

You see, they don''t have an agenda....They both earn a small salary, both drive rusting 10 year old MG saloons - and they both live in the same street in 2 bedroom terraced council houses....(with outside toilets).

They both also holiday once a year in Skegness, and only drink in the Miners Welfare Social Club and eat chips, pie and mushy peas.

They''re both Union leaders who care about those that they represent....and it''s due to (and because of) these two men and their powerful Union - that it is now you, that will be addressing the forthcoming Labour conference as Labour leader - and not your Bro'' David.....

Enjoy.....RED ED.....and, "POWER TO THE UNIONS!"

 

 

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Thank you for your constructive and well thought out response, Mr. Yello.

I put it to you that the Unions of today are rather like Delia Smith and Michael Wynn-Jones - they may hold a little power, but are a shadow of their previous might due largely to the influence of what we might call "proper businessmen". In Norwich City''s case, that''s Bowkett and McNally, and I see myself very much as the new Paul Lambert to Michael Foot''s Bryan Gunn.

And let me just say it''s a myth that I somehow despise big business, or profits, or money. I quite like money. Money means you can buy things. Taxes are made of money. My father wrote text books and people bought them, and this helped pay for our education. So it would be wrong to portray me as some kind of union puppet, and the Murdoch press can do as they may but the working man will hear and know the truth.

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[quote user="Ed Miliband"]Thank you for your constructive and well thought out response, Mr. Yello. I put it to you that the Unions of today are rather like Delia Smith and Michael Wynn-Jones - they may hold a little power, but are a shadow of their previous might due largely to the influence of what we might call "proper businessmen". In Norwich City''s case, that''s Bowkett and McNally, and I see myself very much as the new Paul Lambert to Michael Foot''s Bryan Gunn. And let me just say it''s a myth that I somehow despise big business, or profits, or money. I quite like money. Money means you can buy things. Taxes are made of money. My father wrote text books and people bought them, and this helped pay for our education. So it would be wrong to portray me as some kind of union puppet, and the Murdoch press can do as they may but the working man will hear and know the truth.[/quote]

 

"POWER TO THE SHEEPLE!" and "VOTE LA-BAA! LA-BAA! LA-BAA!"

 

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It''s pretty rich you calling others sheep when you are so mindlessly parrotting the thoughtless tabloid line that Ed Miliband is a communist union stooge, Mello.

The new Labour leader is slightly left-of-centre. Only in a world in thrall to the morons at the Mail could this be seen as a ''lurch to the left''.

 

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[quote]The new Labour leader is slightly left-of-centre. Only in a world in

thrall to the morons at the Mail could this be seen as a ''lurch to the

left''.[/quote]While I would never like it known that I might agree with Mello on something, if you take a right wing party like New Labour, and appoint a left of centre leader, does that not make the party more left wing ?Not that it matters anyway - the terms "Left wing" and "right wing" are based on 100+ year old ideologies when in practice politics is mainly about pragmatic management these days.

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Agreed Blah the terms "left wing" and "right wing" are outdated and almost irrelevant in this day and age. It''s too one dimensional as you can be "left wing" when it comes to benefits for example but then you can be "right wing" on crime.

I find the www.politicalcompass.org/ is a much more accurate and fairer way of aligning people''s political beliefs.

Davo

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[quote user="Robert N. LiM"]

It''s pretty rich you calling others sheep when you are so mindlessly parrotting the thoughtless tabloid line that Ed Miliband is a communist union stooge, Mello.

The new Labour leader is slightly left-of-centre. Only in a world in thrall to the morons at the Mail could this be seen as a ''lurch to the left''.[/quote]

Without the Union vote.....Ed the red, wouldn''t now be Labour leader. FACT! The Union''s wanted him in....wonder why? 

I don''t read the Mail.....Do you read the Socialist Worker?

Don''t attempt to stereotype me....Robert N. Baa-Lamb....

 

 

 

 

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ooh, a serious discussion. No wonder Mello''s not here.

Yes, blah, I would agree that New Labour was essentially a right-wing party and that if Ed Miliband practises what he has been preaching it will be slightly left-of-centre. I suppose that is a lurch leftwards. My point, as I suspect you know, is that the x-axis on Davo''s political compass has been so distorted that what passes for ''the centre ground'' these days is miles to the right, so that although the movement is leftwards, he will not end up ''on the left''. If you see what I mean.

the political compass is very interesting. Ironically, given the right-wing bias of most of the press, I think that the compass is left-leaning. Most of the questions encourage you to give lefty answers. But it does illustrate very cogently that Gordon Brown and David Cameron are almost exactly in the same place.

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[quote user="Robert N. LiM"]

ooh, a serious discussion. No wonder Mello''s not here.

Yes, blah, I would agree that New Labour was essentially a right-wing party and that if Ed Miliband practises what he has been preaching it will be slightly left-of-centre. I suppose that is a lurch leftwards. My point, as I suspect you know, is that the x-axis on Davo''s political compass has been so distorted that what passes for ''the centre ground'' these days is miles to the right, so that although the movement is leftwards, he will not end up ''on the left''. If you see what I mean.

the political compass is very interesting. Ironically, given the right-wing bias of most of the press, I think that the compass is left-leaning. Most of the questions encourage you to give lefty answers. But it does illustrate very cogently that Gordon Brown and David Cameron are almost exactly in the same place.

[/quote]

Ooh, aren''t you just a politico pseudo-intellectio...

I''m still here.....I eagerly await whether ''Ed the red'' practises what he preaches.....Why wasn''t he preaching his ideals when he was in Government?

Labour....See that they''ve now got all the answers and solutions to the country and its current ills.....(now that they aren''t in power).

I''m prepared to give those currently in power the opportunity to ''sort this Country out''.....

....and let them attempt to rectify the situation that we now find ourselves in after the failings of the last excuse for a government.

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[quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Robert N. LiM"]

It''s pretty rich you calling others sheep when you are so mindlessly parrotting the thoughtless tabloid line that Ed Miliband is a communist union stooge, Mello.

The new Labour leader is slightly left-of-centre. Only in a world in thrall to the morons at the Mail could this be seen as a ''lurch to the left''.[/quote]

Without the Union vote.....Ed the red, wouldn''t now be Labour leader. FACT! The Union''s wanted him in....wonder why? 

I don''t read the Mail.....Do you read the Socialist Worker?

Don''t attempt to stereotype me....Robert N. Baa-Lamb....

 

 

 

 

[/quote]This is a gift for the Tories....... Son of a rabid Commie with little ministerial experience other than counting wind turbines.Labour''s generation in the wilderness begins here.

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[quote]the political compass is very interesting. Ironically, given the

right-wing bias of most of the press, I think that the compass is

left-leaning. Most of the questions encourage you to give lefty answers. [/quote]Having been told by it that I''m slightly to the left of Gandhi, I''m inclined to agree - yet it has most of the leaders to the right.  Maybe they are being slightly subversive here - you are a lefty !  your leaders are righties ! overthrow !!!! overthrow !!!![quote]But it does illustrate very cogently that Gordon Brown and David

Cameron are almost exactly in the same place.[/quote]Which isn''t much of a surprise really, as they are both reacting to the same set of financial circumstances.  There are only so many non-bonkers options available to them.  Maybe Cameron wouldn''t have sold our gold for 2 Mars bars and a fluffy tic-tac - we''ll never know.  Ed was on the Marr show yesterday morning saying that he will form a "responsible opposition", e.g. not suggesting anything terribly different to the coalition - in effect not that different to either Cameron or Brown - the more things change, the more they stay the same.

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[quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Robert N. LiM"]

It''s pretty rich you calling others sheep when you are so mindlessly parrotting the thoughtless tabloid line that Ed Miliband is a communist union stooge, Mello.

The new Labour leader is slightly left-of-centre. Only in a world in thrall to the morons at the Mail could this be seen as a ''lurch to the left''.[/quote]

Without the Union vote.....Ed the red, wouldn''t now be Labour leader. FACT! The Union''s wanted him in....wonder why? 

I don''t read the Mail.....Do you read the Socialist Worker?

Don''t attempt to stereotype me....Robert N. Baa-Lamb....

 

 

 

 

[/quote]

I consider myself to be politically central, or slightly left-of-centre, what the Mail would call a raving commie. In other words, about where Ed Miliband is claiming to be. As I said (I think we cross-posted), I have no idea whether he''ll live up to his rhetoric.

Whether or not you read the Mail, the fact remains that the depiction of Red Ed is absurd. According to his rhetoric, he''s a free marketeer who believes in trades unions being represented rather than all power being concentrated in the hands of the rich. He has advocated a tax of 50% on those earning above £150,000 pounds. These things make him left-of-centre.

He is not advocating the abolition of private education, or of property. He is not advocating a general strike. He wants the deficit to be reduced.

Where was he in government? Good question. Personally I believe that if the Labour government had followed the direction he is now advocating, they would have been a better government and would probably still be in power.  Whether he didn''t have enough influence or sufficient guts, I have no idea. I wasn''t there. I suspect, like Blair before him, he will be a huge disappointment to those people who would like the Labour party to govern as Labour. The only point I''m making is that he is currently being defamed by the right-wing press, and that you are baa-ing into it. Did you see what I did there?

I read the front page of the Morning Star in the Dereham road co-op on Saturday. That''s the closest I have ever come to a copy of the Socialist Worker.

One Love.

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[quote user="blahblahblah"][quote]the political compass is very interesting. Ironically, given the right-wing bias of most of the press, I think that the compass is left-leaning. Most of the questions encourage you to give lefty answers. [/quote]

Having been told by it that I''m slightly to the left of Gandhi, I''m inclined to agree - yet it has most of the leaders to the right.  Maybe they are being slightly subversive here - you are a lefty !  your leaders are righties ! overthrow !!!! overthrow !!!!

[quote]But it does illustrate very cogently that Gordon Brown and David Cameron are almost exactly in the same place.[/quote]

Which isn''t much of a surprise really, as they are both reacting to the same set of financial circumstances.  There are only so many non-bonkers options available to them.  Maybe Cameron wouldn''t have sold our gold for 2 Mars bars and a fluffy tic-tac - we''ll never know.  Ed was on the Marr show yesterday morning saying that he will form a "responsible opposition", e.g. not suggesting anything terribly different to the coalition - in effect not that different to either Cameron or Brown - the more things change, the more they stay the same.
[/quote]

Exactly, which is why the portrayal of him as Red Ed is so absurd. Politics is essentially over.

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[quote user="Robert N. LiM"][quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Robert N. LiM"]

It''s pretty rich you calling others sheep when you are so mindlessly parrotting the thoughtless tabloid line that Ed Miliband is a communist union stooge, Mello.

The new Labour leader is slightly left-of-centre. Only in a world in thrall to the morons at the Mail could this be seen as a ''lurch to the left''.[/quote]

Without the Union vote.....Ed the red, wouldn''t now be Labour leader. FACT! The Union''s wanted him in....wonder why? 

I don''t read the Mail.....Do you read the Socialist Worker?

Don''t attempt to stereotype me....Robert N. Baa-Lamb....

[/quote]

I consider myself to be politically central, or slightly left-of-centre, what the Mail would call a raving commie. In other words, about where Ed Miliband is claiming to be. As I said (I think we cross-posted), I have no idea whether he''ll live up to his rhetoric.

Whether or not you read the Mail, the fact remains that the depiction of Red Ed is absurd. According to his rhetoric, he''s a free marketeer who believes in trades unions being represented rather than all power being concentrated in the hands of the rich. He has advocated a tax of 50% on those earning above £150,000 pounds. These things make him left-of-centre.

He is not advocating the abolition of private education, or of property. He is not advocating a general strike. He wants the deficit to be reduced.

Where was he in government? Good question. Personally I believe that if the Labour government had followed the direction he is now advocating, they would have been a better government and would probably still be in power.  Whether he didn''t have enough influence or sufficient guts, I have no idea. I wasn''t there. I suspect, like Blair before him, he will be a huge disappointment to those people who would like the Labour party to govern as Labour. The only point I''m making is that he is currently being defamed by the right-wing press, and that you are baa-ing into it. Did you see what I did there?

I read the front page of the Morning Star in the Dereham road co-op on Saturday. That''s the closest I have ever come to a copy of the Socialist Worker.

One Love.

[/quote]

In my personal opinion, I do think that he will be a huge disappointment as Labour leader....as I feel would have any other of the proposed candidates that offered themselves forward - (including his brother David).

None of them actually instilled me with confidence....

The real question is....Did the majority of the MPs in the Labour Party (or their Labour members or supporters) actually want him as their leader?

I personally, really don''t think that the majority did.....

But, these two blokes certainly wanted ''Ed the Red'' (oops, I''ve done it again) as Labour leader......I wonder why?

We''ll just have to wait and see....only time will tell.

One bleat....''La-baa.''

 

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Which brings me on to the subject of politics and tactics. I''m from a new generation. The old divides are past us. Let us not worry about having a left wing, or a right wing. True politics, more than ever, is fought in the centre. And so should our midfield be outflanked on the right, or the left, rest assured the centre will still hold with Smith centre-right, Lappin centre-left.

And let me say this - when I think Paul Lambert has got it right, I will be the first to say so. I am not interested in opposition for opposition''s sake, but where I feel I can offer a credible alternative then I will speak out and I hope you will fall behind me as I lead us on to the promised land.

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[quote user="Ed Miliband"]Okay, so we lost today. I understand. I feel your pain. But let us not stand idly by and waste time in over-analysing the reasons, for the fact is this: despite losing today, we dominated the match and won each of the key battles. Now is the time for us to move this club forward, to unite and stand firmly behind what we agree in, and to energise our grass roots supporters so they spread the word of what we believe - passing football, flowing football, attacking football for the working men and women of Norwich City, a place I am proud to call my second home. Together, working as a team, we can achieve great things. We can reach the promised land, whether that be the Premier League or Downing Street - or, indeed, both. And I, your new leader, will promise you this - right here, right now - there are better days ahead for each and every person who belongs to this team I am proud to call my team. God bless you. God bless Paul Lambert. And God bless Norwich City Football Club. Thank you, and good night.[/quote]

Gordon Brown''s last words as PM - Probably the greatest day

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