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[quote user="BobbyLo"][quote user="Cluckbert Chase"]Bunch of pussies......Should have been in Nam with me then you''d really know what smoke and napalm was all about.[/quote]What?? Where?! FakeNhAM? [:)](Yeah, thought it was funny first time? How about now?! Ha ha..whoops)[/quote]Google my full name and ''ANZAC Special Forces Viet Nam'' and you''ll see me receiving my Gallantry Medal from Aussie PM John Gorton......

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[quote user="ſilly ſauſage"][quote user="WeAreYellows49"]

[quote user="Harry"]Just to add, I wasn''t one of them who complained to the Club.[/quote]

 

Me neither but if it affected my health like it did yours Harry, I might have considered it

[/quote]I really don''t think smoke bombs would me made of stuff that''s harmful.   Walking down the street breathing in exhaust fumes are more harmful.[/quote]You obviously weren''t near it then.

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Banning people for a little smoke bomb going off for 30 seconds. Just one of many reasons football is so bad here compared to the continent. Health and bloody safety, greek fans let off flares inside basketball stadiums.

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If these so called fans complained because of their kids, should''nt they be in the FAMILY AREA, and not in the SNAKE PIT, i just wonder if the CCTV can pick anything up because all the Yellow Smoke!! Lambert has said that, that is how Carrow Road should be..."Rocking", at this rate there will be no true supporters left in the pit, then all you happy clappers can see the game how you want it... clap when a Goal is scored, then sit and moan because there is no Atmosphere

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Whereabouts does it state that everyone attending games with a child has to sit in specific sections of the ground ??

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[quote user="Harry"][quote user="ſilly ſauſage"][quote user="WeAreYellows49"]

[quote user="Harry"]Just to add, I wasn''t one of them who complained to the Club.[/quote]

 

Me neither but if it affected my health like it did yours Harry, I might have considered it

[/quote]I really don''t think smoke bombs would me made of stuff that''s harmful.   Walking down the street breathing in exhaust fumes are more harmful.[/quote]You obviously weren''t near it then.[/quote]Admittedly I wasn''t, but considering my old granddad got a dose of mustard gas in WWI and survived.  I don''t think on the whole scheme of things nobody was harmed. OK it was a childish prank that annoyed a few near.  But running to the club and moaning (Harry I know you didn''t) and the threat of the CCTV monster is ridiculous.

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[quote user="Duffman"]Whereabouts does it state that everyone attending games with a child has to sit in specific sections of the ground ??[/quote]It demonstrates how ****ed up fans'' thinking is.  Some are perfectly happy to let jnr sit in areas where they''ll hear all the colourful language, but moan when a smoke bomb gets let off.

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[quote user="Duffman"]Whereabouts does it state that everyone attending games with a child has to sit in specific sections of the ground ??[/quote]

All im getting at is if i wanted to take my daughter to a game, if i didnt want to hear bad language, chanting,or see wanabee hooligans, i would take her in the family area,

Its also bad fellow supporters go running to the club, i know HARRY wouldnt, and it was tongue in cheek when i said he must have seen them, because i could''nt have seen them also, we all know there is a big group of wanabees who sit near the front!!

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[quote user="ſilly ſauſage"][quote user="Duffman"]Whereabouts does it state that everyone attending games with a child has to sit in specific sections of the ground ??[/quote]

It demonstrates how ****ed up fans'' thinking is.  Some are perfectly happy to let jnr sit in areas where they''ll hear all the colourful language, but moan when a smoke bomb gets let off.
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Well said!!

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So you both know for sure that the people complaining were actually sitting in the snake pit?

Its just that, the last time I checked the snakepit is pretty much the same part of the ground as the South Stand and is home to a few old timers and small children. Its not like the ''famous'' snakepit is separated from other parts of the ground and easily identified as a section just for chavs and wannabe hooligans.

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No smoke without flare....

Ground regulations on the NCFC official site state quite clearly what''s prohibited in the stadium...and surprisingly...flares are one of many items that are prohibited.

 

 

 

 

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[quote user="Mello Yello"]

No smoke without flare....

Ground regulations on the NCFC official site state quite clearly what''s prohibited in the stadium...and surprisingly...flares are one of many items that are prohibited.

 

Perhaps when ive lost the will to live, and become totally sad, i will read the Ground Regs

 

 

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[quote user="zemas tendon"][quote user="Mello Yello"]

No smoke without flare....

Ground regulations on the NCFC official site state quite clearly what''s prohibited in the stadium...and surprisingly...flares are one of many items that are prohibited.

 

Perhaps when ive lost the will to live, and become totally sad, i will read the Ground Regs

 

 

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Do you require some help with the big words?

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[quote user="Mello Yello"]

No smoke without flare....

Ground regulations on the NCFC official site state quite clearly what''s prohibited in the stadium...and surprisingly...flares are one of many items that are prohibited.

 

 

 

 

[/quote]

 

I think everyone knows they are banned, have no issue with the fact it was put out and confiscated as we all know you are not supposed to have them. Having said that all manner of things are probably banned such as standing during play and swearing!

My point was purely that I can''t believe fans write and complain to the club about these things and that they must be some pretty sad individuals to do so. I think that we as a club have more sad individuals who would write and complain to the club than most, a fact illustrated by the booing of people who ran on the pitch at the end of last season. I suspect its something to do with the fact that we have so many post cardiff, new age fans who wouldn;t know a decent atmosphere if it bit them on the backside. 

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[quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="zemas tendon"][quote user="Mello Yello"]

No smoke without flare....

Ground regulations on the NCFC official site state quite clearly what''s prohibited in the stadium...and surprisingly...flares are one of many items that are prohibited.

 

Perhaps when ive lost the will to live, and become totally sad, i will read the Ground Regs

 

 

[/quote][/quote]

Do you require some help with the big words?

[/quote]

 

Yes Please....

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[quote user="Jim Smith"][quote user="Mello Yello"]

No smoke without flare....

Ground regulations on the NCFC official site state quite clearly what''s prohibited in the stadium...and surprisingly...flares are one of many items that are prohibited.

 

 

 

 

[/quote]

 

I think everyone knows they are banned, have no issue with the fact it was put out and confiscated as we all know you are not supposed to have them. Having said that all manner of things are probably banned such as standing during play and swearing!

My point was purely that I can''t believe fans write and complain to the club about these things and that they must be some pretty sad individuals to do so. I think that we as a club have more sad individuals who would write and complain to the club than most, a fact illustrated by the booing of people who ran on the pitch at the end of last season. I suspect its something to do with the fact that we have so many post cardiff, new age fans who wouldn;t know a decent atmosphere if it bit them on the backside. 

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Totally Agree!!

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[quote user="Jim Smith"][quote user="Mello Yello"]

No smoke without flare....

Ground regulations on the NCFC official site state quite clearly what''s prohibited in the stadium...and surprisingly...flares are one of many items that are prohibited.

[/quote]

I think everyone knows they are banned, have no issue with the fact it was put out and confiscated as we all know you are not supposed to have them. Having said that all manner of things are probably banned such as standing during play and swearing!

My point was purely that I can''t believe fans write and complain to the club about these things and that they must be some pretty sad individuals to do so. I think that we as a club have more sad individuals who would write and complain to the club than most, a fact illustrated by the booing of people who ran on the pitch at the end of last season. I suspect its something to do with the fact that we have so many post cardiff, new age fans who wouldn;t know a decent atmosphere if it bit them on the backside. 

[/quote]

My point is, aren''t the ''Ground Regulations'' there for a reason....?

Maybe one of the ''reasons'' the ''Ground Regulations'' are there, is just so that those sad individuals, post Cardiff and ''New Age'' fans, can complain about those folk - who don''t abide by them?

Then those fans that don''t abide by and prefer to break the ''Ground Regulations'' can then complain about those folk that do abide by them.... 

 

 

 

 

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[quote user="zemas tendon"][quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="zemas tendon"][quote user="Mello Yello"]

No smoke without flare....

Ground regulations on the NCFC official site state quite clearly what''s prohibited in the stadium...and surprisingly...flares are one of many items that are prohibited.

 

Perhaps when ive lost the will to live, and become totally sad, i will read the Ground Regs

 

 

[/quote][/quote]

Do you require some help with the big words?

[/quote]

 

Yes Please....

[/quote]

Who helped you with please?

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[quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Jim Smith"][quote user="Mello Yello"]

No smoke without flare....

Ground regulations on the NCFC official site state quite clearly what''s prohibited in the stadium...and surprisingly...flares are one of many items that are prohibited.

[/quote]

I think everyone knows they are banned, have no issue with the fact it was put out and confiscated as we all know you are not supposed to have them. Having said that all manner of things are probably banned such as standing during play and swearing!

My point was purely that I can''t believe fans write and complain to the club about these things and that they must be some pretty sad individuals to do so. I think that we as a club have more sad individuals who would write and complain to the club than most, a fact illustrated by the booing of people who ran on the pitch at the end of last season. I suspect its something to do with the fact that we have so many post cardiff, new age fans who wouldn;t know a decent atmosphere if it bit them on the backside. 

[/quote]

My point is, aren''t the ''Ground Regulations'' there for a reason....?

Maybe one of the ''reasons'' the ''Ground Regulations'' are there, is just so that those sad individuals, post Cardiff and ''New Age'' fans, can complain about those folk - who don''t abide by them?

Then those fans that don''t abide by and prefer to break the ''Ground Regulations'' can then complain about those folk that do abide by them.... 

 

 

 

 

[/quote]

 

Different point really though isn''t it. We all know of all sorts of rules and regulations in all areas of life which are or are not abided by. Some are sensible, some are not. My point was more that it is generally a certain type of person who persistently writes and/or complains about things (particularly harmless things) and we as a club seem to have more of them than most clubs. I could say the same thing about miserable b**tards who tell people to sit down throughout the game or who complain about the fact the Grant Holt chant contains a swear word.

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well regulations at carrow road are a joke! you are not allowed to take pictures in a football stadium so why dont you tell everyone off for that!

next thing someone will complain because they cant see over the guys yellow and green wig in the row in front of them..

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Bring on more smoke bombs and flares if you ask me............. great for the game and event........... a minority will complain but hay this is norfolk......

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[quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Jim Smith"][quote user="Mello Yello"]

No smoke without flare....

Ground regulations on the NCFC official site state quite clearly what''s prohibited in the stadium...and surprisingly...flares are one of many items that are prohibited.

[/quote]

I think everyone knows they are banned, have no issue with the fact it was put out and confiscated as we all know you are not supposed to have them. Having said that all manner of things are probably banned such as standing during play and swearing!

My point was purely that I can''t believe fans write and complain to the club about these things and that they must be some pretty sad individuals to do so. I think that we as a club have more sad individuals who would write and complain to the club than most, a fact illustrated by the booing of people who ran on the pitch at the end of last season. I suspect its something to do with the fact that we have so many post cardiff, new age fans who wouldn;t know a decent atmosphere if it bit them on the backside. 

[/quote]

My point is, aren''t the ''Ground Regulations'' there for a reason....?

Maybe one of the ''reasons'' the ''Ground Regulations'' are there, is just so that those sad individuals, post Cardiff and ''New Age'' fans, can complain about those folk - who don''t abide by them?

Then those fans that don''t abide by and prefer to break the ''Ground Regulations'' can then complain about those folk that do abide by them.... 

 

My profession is a Health and Safety Officer, i passed my NEBOSH course back in 2001Then a degree, and have been doing this job ever since, if everyone took notice of Regulations, i would''nt be in employement, and "The Health and Safety At Worck Act 1974" could be abolished.... So i take it you abide by every Regulation going.... including Takeing the P**s Regs

 

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[quote user="ur just a man in a jacket"]well regulations at carrow road are a joke! [/quote]It''s not just Carrow Road that has these regulations:[quote user="The Football League"]GROUND REGULATIONSNotice: Entry to the Ground is expressly subject to acceptance by the visitor of these Ground Regulations and the rules and regulations of FIFA, UEFA, The Football Association, The F.A. Premier League and The Football League in respect of the relevant competition. The Ground Regulations incorporate the Club''s Customer Charter (if any). Entry to the Ground shall constitute acceptance of the Ground Regulations."Ground" means this football stadium and all locations owned, occupied or utilised by the Club."Club" means this football club."Match" means any association football match taking place at the Ground.1 Permission to enter or to remain within the Ground (notwithstanding possession of any ticket) is at the absolute discretion of the Club, any police officer or authorised steward. On no account will admission be granted to a person who is the subject of a current Banning Order.2 The Club excludes to the maximum extent permitted by law any liability for loss, injury or damage to persons/property in or around the Ground.3 No guarantees can be given by the Club that a Match will take place at a particular time or on a particular date and the Club reserves the right to reschedule the Match without notice and without any liability whatsoever.4 In the event of the postponement or abandonment of the Match, refunds (if any) will be made in accordance with the Club''s Customer Charter. The Club will have no further liability whatsoever, including (but not limited to) any indirect or consequential loss or damage, such as (but not limited to) loss of enjoyment or travel costs.5 All persons seeking entrance to the Ground acknowledge the Club''s right to search any person entering the Ground and to refuse entry to or eject from the Ground any person refusing to submit to such a search.6 The following articles must not be brought within the Ground - knives, fireworks, smoke canisters, air-horns, flares, weapons, dangerous or hazardous items, laser devices, bottles, glass vessels, cans, poles and any article that might be used as a weapon and/or compromise public safety. Any person in possession of such items will be refused entry to the Ground.7 Further, you may not bring into the Ground any sponsorship, promotional or marketing materials save in respect of official club merchandise and/or other football related clothing worn in good faith nor may you offer (either free or for sale by any person) any goods (including literature) of any nature without the express written approval of the Management.8 The use of threatening behaviour, foul or abusive language is strictly forbidden and will result in arrest and/or ejection from the Ground. The Club may impose a ban for one or more Matches.8.1 Racial, homophobic or discriminatory abuse, chanting or harassment is strictly forbidden and will result in arrest and/or ejection from the Ground. The Club may impose a ban for one or more Matches.8.2 The following acts are offences under the Football (Offences) Act 1991, as amended:8.2.1 The throwing of any object within the Ground without lawful authority or excuse.8.2.2 The chanting of anything of an indecent or racialist nature.8.2.3 The entry onto the playing area or any adjacent area to which spectators are not generally admitted without lawful authority or excuse.Conviction may result in a Banning Order being made.9 All persons entering the Ground may only occupy the seat allocated to them by their ticket and must not move from any one part of the Ground to another without the express permission or instruction of any steward, officer of the Club and/or any police officer.10 Nobody may stand in any seating area whilst play is in progress. Persistent standing in seated areas whilst play is in progress is strictly forbidden and may result in ejection from the Ground.11 The obstruction of gangways, access ways, exits and entrances, stairways and like places is strictly forbidden. Nobody entering the Ground shall be permitted to climb any structures within the Ground.12 Football League stadia are smoke-free and smoking is not permitted inside the Ground.13 Mobile telephones are permitted within the Ground, provided that they are used for personal and private use only.14 Under the Sporting Events (Control of Alcohol etc) Act 1985, the following are offences for which a person can be arrested by a police officer and conviction could result in a Banning Order being made:14.1 Attempting to enter the Ground or being inside the Ground whilst drunk;14.2 Being in possession of any intoxicating liquor, or bottle, can or other portable container and which could cause damage or personal injury, when entering the Ground or in a public area of the Ground from which the event can be directly viewed.15 Any individual who has entered any part of the Ground designated for the use of any group of supporters to which he does not belong may be ejected from the Ground either for the purposes of his own safety or for any other reason.16 No person (other than a person who holds an appropriate licence) may bring into the Ground or use within the Ground any equipment, which is capable of recording or transmitting (by digital or other means) any audio, visual or audio-visual material or any information or data in relation to the Match or the Ground. Copyright in any unauthorised recording or transmission is assigned (by way of present assignment of future copyright pursuant to section 91 of the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988) to the Club.17 No goods (including literature) of any nature may be offered either free or for sale by any person within the Ground without the express written permission of the Club.18 Tickets are not transferable and may not be offered for sale without the prior written permission of the Club. Any tickets offered for sale may be confiscated by any steward, officer of the Club or any police officer.19 CCTV cameras are in use around and in the Ground and the Club may itself use or pass to the police or any Football Authority, any recordings for use in any proceedings.20 At all times whilst present in the Ground, persons must comply with any and all instructions of any steward or officer of the Club and/or any police officer. Failure to comply with any instruction may lead to immediate ejection from the Ground.21 Entry to the Ground signifies your express consent to the use of your actual or simulated likeness in connection with the production, exhibition, advertising or exploitation of any film, video and/or audio recording of the Match, and/or any element thereof in any/all media throughout the World.22 The Club reserves absolutely the right to eject from the Ground any person failing to comply with any of the Ground Regulations or whose presence within the Ground is, or could, reasonably be construed as constituting a source of danger, nuisance or annoyance to any other person. This could lead to further action by the Club including,but not limited to, the withdrawal of any season ticket (without reimbursement) and other benefits.23 Entry to the Ground shall constitute acceptance of the Ground Regulations.Published by The Football League Limited 2007 [/quote]

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[quote user="zemas tendon"][quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Jim Smith"][quote user="Mello Yello"]

No smoke without flare....

Ground regulations on the NCFC official site state quite clearly what''s prohibited in the stadium...and surprisingly...flares are one of many items that are prohibited.

[/quote]

I think everyone knows they are banned, have no issue with the fact it was put out and confiscated as we all know you are not supposed to have them. Having said that all manner of things are probably banned such as standing during play and swearing!

My point was purely that I can''t believe fans write and complain to the club about these things and that they must be some pretty sad individuals to do so. I think that we as a club have more sad individuals who would write and complain to the club than most, a fact illustrated by the booing of people who ran on the pitch at the end of last season. I suspect its something to do with the fact that we have so many post cardiff, new age fans who wouldn;t know a decent atmosphere if it bit them on the backside. 

[/quote]

My point is, aren''t the ''Ground Regulations'' there for a reason....?

Maybe one of the ''reasons'' the ''Ground Regulations'' are there, is just so that those sad individuals, post Cardiff and ''New Age'' fans, can complain about those folk - who don''t abide by them?

Then those fans that don''t abide by and prefer to break the ''Ground Regulations'' can then complain about those folk that do abide by them.... 

 

My profession is a Health and Safety Officer, i passed my NEBOSH course back in 2001Then a degree, and have been doing this job ever since, if everyone took notice of Regulations, i would''nt be in employement, and "The Health and Safety At Worck Act 1974" could be abolished.... So i take it you abide by every Regulation going.... including Takeing the P**s Regs

 

[/quote][/quote]

No, I don''t profess to abiding by every regulation going.....I do though, have a degree of common sense.

If someone is aware of and unwilling to refrain from breaking a regulation - or is caught breaking a regulation....

Then they should therefore accept, that if caught breaking a regulation - they are then subject to the penalties or punishment pertaining to breaking that regulation.

And, I''m not taking the pi$$....

 

 

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[quote user="Jim Smith"][!

My point was more that it is generally a certain type of person who persistently writes and/or complains about things (particularly harmless things) and we as a club seem to have more of them than most clubs.

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Now Jim, nobody persistently writes and complains more about Norwich fans than you do.

Morph suits, inflatables, disco''s.. they''re harmless and you''d ban the lot!![;)]

 

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[quote user="cityislife"]Bring on more smoke bombs and flares if you ask me............. great for the game and event........... a minority will complain but hay this is norfolk......
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Yes its great for someone like me whos asthmatic [:@] but dont you worry about me not being able to breathe.

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[quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="Jim Smith"][!

My point was more that it is generally a certain type of person who persistently writes and/or complains about things (particularly harmless things) and we as a club seem to have more of them than most clubs.

[/quote]

Now Jim, nobody persistently writes and complains more about Norwich fans than you do.

Morph suits, inflatables, disco''s.. they''re harmless and you''d ban the lot!![;)]

 

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I only whinge on here though Nutty! ;-) I would not dream of writing to the club and asking for them (or individuals who wear them) to be banned. I just wish so many of our fans did not feel the need to don them for a "big day out" when we get relegated or play someone like Gillingham away in the JPT at the lowest ebb in our history!

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