Legend Iwan 30 Posted September 12, 2010 New entry to my blog.Link here > http://www.pinkun.com/content/pinkun/blogs/different-shade-of-yellow.aspx or click the picture in my sig.All feedback welcome. Enjoy. [:)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Chops 7 Posted September 12, 2010 I hadn''t seen that Mark Lawrenson quote before, but I think he had a fair point - with hindsight we didn''t need to worry, but at the time it did seem bizarre timing.I do like however his worry that "you could be in the second division in ten months time" - and he was right. The daft sod meant "League Two", of course, but hey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Chops 7 Posted September 12, 2010 It''s a good blog, anyway - I enjoyed reading it. Not sure about the Pink Un''s format which makes it very narrow (a bit like our midfield) but many of your points are reasonable.The final part, however (not the joke, the bit before!) is wishful thinking."For me, I don’t believe we can allow the sales of our top youth. If we are to truly show ambition and banish the prudent past that prevented us from ever achieving anything after our Premiership season, then Chris Martin et al must remain Canaries."I quite agree with this. But we have to be realistic. We are a club deeply, deeply in debt and one which appears incapable, despite what I believe are strong efforts by those at the top, to find investment. The world has changed radically in the last three years. This is a global time of dearth. People will be looking to their own wealth before they punt it at a football club, and nobody would invest in a club thinking they would make a return on it (and when they do, would you want a Gillette & Hicks, or a Glazer scenario?) - so we are reliant on a benefactor if we are to compete again at the highest level and/or to clear our debts.So with no obvious way to slash our debt, I''m afraid player sales must remain an option to keep the club solvent. And I don''t think this is "prudence", just the hard facts of life as a Championship club with huge debts. As an example, if we were offered £2.5m for Chris Martin, it would be very hard for the club to say no. We can''t be blinded by on-pitch success. It will be a success for many football clubs in the next 2-3 years if they are still in business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Woman in the Stands (WITS) 0 Posted September 12, 2010 Another enjoyable blog The you tube clipp was amusing and typical Lawrenson arrogance shone through though, as Mr Chops has already pointed out, the timings of those events did seem bizarre back then.As for the urban dictionary - what a find! Absolutely brilliant definition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Chops 7 Posted September 13, 2010 [quote user="Mr. Chops"]It''s a good blog, anyway - I enjoyed reading it. Not sure about the Pink Un''s format which makes it very narrow (a bit like our midfield) but many of your points are reasonable.The final part, however (not the joke, the bit before!) is wishful thinking."For me, I don’t believe we can allow the sales of our top youth. If we are to truly show ambition and banish the prudent past that prevented us from ever achieving anything after our Premiership season, then Chris Martin et al must remain Canaries."I quite agree with this. But we have to be realistic. We are a club deeply, deeply in debt and one which appears incapable, despite what I believe are strong efforts by those at the top, to find investment. The world has changed radically in the last three years. This is a global time of dearth. People will be looking to their own wealth before they punt it at a football club, and nobody would invest in a club thinking they would make a return on it (and when they do, would you want a Gillette & Hicks, or a Glazer scenario?) - so we are reliant on a benefactor if we are to compete again at the highest level and/or to clear our debts.So with no obvious way to slash our debt, I''m afraid player sales must remain an option to keep the club solvent. And I don''t think this is "prudence", just the hard facts of life as a Championship club with huge debts. As an example, if we were offered £2.5m for Chris Martin, it would be very hard for the club to say no. We can''t be blinded by on-pitch success. It will be a success for many football clubs in the next 2-3 years if they are still in business.[/quote]I assume from the silence that this isn''t a controversial view? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted September 13, 2010 "I don’t believe we can allow the sales of our top youth. If we are to truly show ambition"Whilst it might be easy to laugh at the touching naivety whereby football clubs are ran in the same way a pantomime is played out at the Theatre Royal, there is a hidden danger.Failing to share the stupidity of some fans is called lack of ambition (I wonder how often those running clubs ponder if some fans will truly show intelligence).The danger is that there are fans daft enough to believe that players are sold simply because those running a club cannot find a maiden to tie to a railway line, whilst they stand beside the track twiddling their moustache, and so have to express their wickedness elsewhere. The simplicity here means the fan can put himself forward claiming the moral highground without any of the responsibility of thought or reasoned argument.Players move clubs for many reasons. Contracts allow them to accept offers when it suits THEM not the clubs. Don''t accept the conditions, don''t get the player. With the poliferation of agents I doubt there is not one City youth player who has not got some form of representation. Did the former clubs of Holt, Jackson and MacDonald not have any ambition ? Maybe Hoolahans arrival here was also a sign that his previous club did not have ambition.Maybe a bit more ambition shown by some fans wouldn''t go amiss. The ambition to grasp the basics of football beyond a seven years olds viewpoint, might be a start. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack Barak 46 Posted September 13, 2010 Mr Chops, I agree entirely. With a debt of £26m approx we cannot rule out the sale of any player if a reasonable bid came in. Although I would be loath to see Martin, Korey, Rudd, Steer etc leave we have to be realistic, a bid in the order of millions for any of these players would be difficult to say no to. This is especially true in light of Lambert''s apparent ability in the transfer market, thus far he hasn''t sold us a pup and I think he could replace any sales with equally capable players, be they new academy players or new to the club.Every player has his price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davo 0 Posted September 13, 2010 I don''t read many blogs and while I might not agree with it all I liked the way it flowed smoothly from start to finish. Too many blogs jump from subject to subject in a kind of stop start fashion. I guess it''s just personal preference but I prefer blogs to start with a subject and keep on track until it come to some kind of opinion or statement at the end.Keep up the good work and I''ll even probably read your next one too.Davo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Legend Iwan 30 Posted September 13, 2010 Thank you all for the replies.Sorry for taking so long Mr Chops, I''m currently sunning myself in France. I believe if anything my view is the more controversal, or at least it''s the idealist approach - however, one we should adhere to.Of course I''m not naive enough to grasp the fundemental flaws to footballs economics (although City1st may hold that opinion) and appreciate that in our case - with no sugar daddy - that the finances are made that bit harder, as such player sales are vital to remain afloat. My argument rests solely on the rule change for Premiersip teams to include 8 homegrown players and our ability to fulfill it.By keeping our top youth - which is certainly ambitious because of the difficulties we face - it is similar in my belief as the purchase of someone like Surman. Could we bring an equilavent or better for someone like C.Martin/K.Smith/D.Rudd who is also homegrown?In relation to City1st, firstly thank you for the reply, it is always good to have ones opinion challenged and your post does that - even if in a very direct and blunt manner. However, none of Holt, Jackson or McDonald''s former clubs are competing for a Premiership place any time soon, in turn they don''t face the homegrown rule (something you''ve clearly missed in my piece), so of course they will take that monetary boost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites