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I just don''t get it!

Why do people go to the trouble of writing a little football masterpiece only to post it on some obscure site (or a remote corner of this one), and then............

post a link to it on here?

Surely it would be better to open a new thread with it on here? It would have lots more people reading it and debating it which would be much more satisfying and informative to the writer rather than the same few regulars patronising praises.

Is it simply because the writers fear the backlash from the fearsome Pink-un message board? [8o|]

 

 

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They think their opinions are too important to have the indignity of being just another post on a message board. Have you not read the desperate pleas to get people to read them?

Bloggers, by their very nature, have an inflated sense of self importance.

Let them have their moment. If, as you point out, it gives them even less exposure than the rest of us peasants then fine by me. An ironic twist that serves them well.

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[quote user="lappinitup"]

I just don''t get it!

Why do people go to the trouble of writing a little football masterpiece only to post it on some obscure site (or a remote corner of this one), and then............

post a link to it on here?

Surely it would be better to open a new thread with it on here? It would have lots more people reading it and debating it which would be much more satisfying and informative to the writer rather than the same few regulars patronising praises.

Is it simply because the writers fear the backlash from the fearsome Pink-un message board? [8o|]

 

 

[/quote]After the last time i posted my blog up, it did remind me how petulant posters on here can sometimes be. Contrary to general opinion, most people on here are decent human beings, and are all of them to happy to show others a decent amount of respect. But that is not to say there aren''t a host of bitter souls that, for whatever reason, go on here to actively seek others out so they can let out some steam. Whilst constructive criticism is always appreciated, and in the long term a very helpful guiding source in furthering oneself, personal insults are far too commonplace on this forum with some. No one on here should have to put up with that, and if one wants to avoid it, so be it.I personally have a candid interest in furthering myself into journalism, and providing i can finish my academics off with a bang i''d like to think it''s possible for me. I''d assume people in this area of work tend to take more notice of you if you''ve written a blog than if you''ve had a few rambles on a forum. More to the point, a blog is something personally associated with you, via this alias you''ve created. It''s directly accessible, and for anyone that wants to gain some relative insight into your written work, that is in itself quite helpful. This is as opposed to delving into forums, and searching through your hundreds or thousands of comments strewn across the Internet, quite unpractical if one happens to take interest i should imagine.And another issue is of course the eternal fluidity of a forum. Threads you''ve spent ages writing and thinking about sink deep into the realms of Internet obscurity, without a trace. It''ll be forgotten by others soon enough, and not long after, you will. As a result it''s absolutely fair if one wants to document their thoughts that they consider worthwhile. Some may feel a little flippant about what they want to contribute on here, but there are just as many others that find retaining, and to some degree preserving their work to be in their interests.

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Why don''t you try answering the OPs question instead of giving us more waffle to wade through?

For your information, due to your personal aspirations, real journalists don''t go round posting links to their articles on message boards in an attempt to fish for compliments.

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Dear John

Pretentious Moi!

Fully applaud your very good attempts and your command of the English language for one so young, but your Mum is the only likely candidate to keep them.

Hundreds and thousands of comments..you should get out more

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[quote user="Epic Beard Man"]Why don''t you try answering the OPs question instead of giving us more waffle to wade through?

For your information, due to your personal aspirations, real journalists don''t go round posting links to their articles on message boards in an attempt to fish for compliments.[/quote]I did answer it, but i also elaborated it in order to provide my reasoning behind it.I''m only 18 by the way Epic Beard Man. I''m not using this blog as some sort of route into journalism, more as part of a platform. As far as i can see it''s not going to cause any counteractive harm, and i enjoy it.

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[quote user="The Butler"]Dear John

Pretentious Moi!

Fully applaud your very good attempts and your command of the English language for one so young, but your Mum is the only likely candidate to keep them.

Hundreds and thousands of comments..you should get out more[/quote]It''s simply the view i take on the matter. I personally appreciate reading someone else''s opinion, be it on a thread, column, or blog, and it is of course why i take part on this forum. I''ve always enjoyed it. Others far too stuck up their own ar*e on here may deny sharing that interest, but they''re on here, and whether they want to have a rant at others, or simply discuss, they''re essentially actively taking part in the debate, all too happy to read what others have written.If you don''t have interest in reading what i, or perhaps others write, it''s your own personal judgement. I''m sorry you feel that way. But i''m not going to stop simply because some guy on the Internet saw reason to speak on behalf of everyone in saying "no ones interested", because you simply don''t possess the authority over others to make such a claim.Note : "hundreds or thousands".

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[quote user="John"][quote user="lappinitup"]

I just don''t get it!

Why do people go to the trouble of writing a little football masterpiece only to post it on some obscure site (or a remote corner of this one), and then............

post a link to it on here?

Surely it would be better to open a new thread with it on here? It would have lots more people reading it and debating it which would be much more satisfying and informative to the writer rather than the same few regulars patronising praises.

Is it simply because the writers fear the backlash from the fearsome Pink-un message board? [8o|]

 

 

[/quote]

After the last time i posted my blog up, it did remind me how petulant posters on here can sometimes be. Contrary to general opinion, most people on here are decent human beings, and are all of them to happy to show others a decent amount of respect. But that is not to say there aren''t a host of bitter souls that, for whatever reason, go on here to actively seek others out so they can let out some steam. Whilst constructive criticism is always appreciated, and in the long term a very helpful guiding source in furthering oneself, personal insults are far too commonplace on this forum with some. No one on here should have to put up with that, and if one wants to avoid it, so be it.

I personally have a candid interest in furthering myself into journalism, and providing i can finish my academics off with a bang i''d like to think it''s possible for me. I''d assume people in this area of work tend to take more notice of you if you''ve written a blog than if you''ve had a few rambles on a forum. More to the point, a blog is something personally associated with you, via this alias you''ve created. It''s directly accessible, and for anyone that wants to gain some relative insight into your written work, that is in itself quite helpful. This is as opposed to delving into forums, and searching through your hundreds or thousands of comments strewn across the Internet, quite unpractical if one happens to take interest i should imagine.

And another issue is of course the eternal fluidity of a forum. Threads you''ve spent ages writing and thinking about sink deep into the realms of Internet obscurity, without a trace. It''ll be forgotten by others soon enough, and not long after, you will. As a result it''s absolutely fair if one wants to document their thoughts that they consider worthwhile. Some may feel a little flippant about what they want to contribute on here, but there are just as many others that find retaining, and to some degree preserving their work to be in their interests.
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I work in journalism and although I can''t speak for the whole profession no where I have worked before look at people''s blogs. It is too easy for it to be  written by someone else. 

But I do think a blog is a good way for people to practice writing and to develop their own style, so they are certainly useful in that respect. I also think it is worthwhile people posting links to their blogs here rather than their actual article, as it is far too long for the message board format. I get pretty lazy and tend to ignore long posts.

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[quote user="Bethnal Yellow and Green"][quote user="John"][quote user="lappinitup"]

I just don''t get it!

Why do people go to the trouble of writing a little football masterpiece only to post it on some obscure site (or a remote corner of this one), and then............

post a link to it on here?

Surely it would be better to open a new thread with it on here? It would have lots more people reading it and debating it which would be much more satisfying and informative to the writer rather than the same few regulars patronising praises.

Is it simply because the writers fear the backlash from the fearsome Pink-un message board? [8o|]

 

 

[/quote]After the last time i posted my blog up, it did remind me how petulant posters on here can sometimes be. Contrary to general opinion, most people on here are decent human beings, and are all of them to happy to show others a decent amount of respect. But that is not to say there aren''t a host of bitter souls that, for whatever reason, go on here to actively seek others out so they can let out some steam. Whilst constructive criticism is always appreciated, and in the long term a very helpful guiding source in furthering oneself, personal insults are far too commonplace on this forum with some. No one on here should have to put up with that, and if one wants to avoid it, so be it.I personally have a candid interest in furthering myself into journalism, and providing i can finish my academics off with a bang i''d like to think it''s possible for me. I''d assume people in this area of work tend to take more notice of you if you''ve written a blog than if you''ve had a few rambles on a forum. More to the point, a blog is something personally associated with you, via this alias you''ve created. It''s directly accessible, and for anyone that wants to gain some relative insight into your written work, that is in itself quite helpful. This is as opposed to delving into forums, and searching through your hundreds or thousands of comments strewn across the Internet, quite unpractical if one happens to take interest i should imagine.And another issue is of course the eternal fluidity of a forum. Threads you''ve spent ages writing and thinking about sink deep into the realms of Internet obscurity, without a trace. It''ll be forgotten by others soon enough, and not long after, you will. As a result it''s absolutely fair if one wants to document their thoughts that they consider worthwhile. Some may feel a little flippant about what they want to contribute on here, but there are just as many others that find retaining, and to some degree preserving their work to be in their interests.[/quote]

I work in journalism and although I can''t speak for the whole profession no where I have worked before look at people''s blogs. It is too easy for it to be  written by someone else. 

But I do think a blog is a good way for people to practice writing and to develop their own style, so they are certainly useful in that respect. I also think it is worthwhile people posting links to their blogs here rather than their actual article, as it is far too long for the message board format. I get pretty lazy and tend to ignore long posts.

[/quote]Thanks Bethnal.As i''d happily admit to, i''m naive when it comes to this area of work, but it''s one of the career choices i''m more passionate in pursuing. I may have overstated the personal importance of a blog entry, though i''m just trying to convey that it''s something i''m happy to do, and if there are any benefits to come of it it can only act as another positive in my book.

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John!

You haven''t answered the OPs question at all.

All you did was pointlessly ramble on about why you write a blog.

Read his post again carefully. There is only one question in it and he has put the important bit in bold text for you.

If you want to be a journalist you have to pay attention to what people say. Must do better.

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I''d suggest the level of response to a blog and the number of people who felt compelled to leave a comment is the best reflection of genuine interest?

Note: Appears to be neither "hundreds nor thousands"

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[quote user="Epic Beard Man"]John!

You haven''t answered the OPs question at all.

All you did was pointlessly ramble on about why you write a blog.

Read his post again carefully. There is only one question in it and he has put the important bit in bold text for you.

If you want to be a journalist you have to pay attention to what people say. Must do better.[/quote]I said why i''m not overly comfortable in the idea of posting it on here word for word, and why others may feel the same way, in the first paragraph.In light of your first comment, the rest was me giving my reasoning behind doing it, and why others might also (in a less cynical sense).

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John

I haven''t read anything on this thread about not reading or stopping reading posts.

Your interpretation is a bit out.

All and others are saying is "Why a blog" and not just a thread, that can be read commented on, then moved on.

Unless you see youself as a later day Dickens why would anyone want to keep your ramblings other than yourself?

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Before the days of commericialisation of the web, every website was a homepage for an individual or group... nowadays those homepages have been formalised in structure and given a new moniker of "blog"... personally, I''m all for them. The web should be about people connecting and communicating to people, rather than large corporations broadcasting information and consumers un-interactively receiving that information. Leave that to TV and newspapers, the web is a different kind of medium of communication.

Increasing the visibility of what you write is simply a part of that. I don''t always agree with the constant spamming that some blogger''s on this site employ, which might be the reason for the OP''s rant?

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"Unless you see youself as a later day Dickens why would anyone want to keep your ramblings other than yourself?"

If you have that opinion, why are you on a forum in the first place - if it''s not to express or read your opinions...?

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I meant;

If you have that opinion, why are you on a forum in the first place - if it''s not to express your opinions or read other peoples...?

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[quote user="First Jedi"]"Unless you see youself as a later day Dickens why would anyone want to keep your ramblings other than yourself?" If you have that opinion, why are you on a forum in the first place - if it''s not to express or read your opinions...?[/quote]

The emphasis was on KEEP not MAKE.

You did not read[:D]

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[quote user="The Butler"]

John

I haven''t read anything on this thread about not reading or stopping reading posts.

Your interpretation is a bit out.

All and others are saying is "Why a blog" and not just a thread, that can be read commented on, then moved on.

Unless you see youself as a later day Dickens why would anyone want to keep your ramblings other than yourself?

[/quote]Granted, i do seem to have misinterpreted your post a little Butler, on that account i''m sorry.But as for why i decide to write a blog, it''s only that i''ve personally enjoyed reading them for years, and as a result i sought to get involved. Merely having a shot at it, to see if i could make a decent attempt of it. If it went awful, then clearly the idea of doing something in journalism would be non too suitable to me, as enthusiastic as i may be about doing it. Nothing more.

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Utter bollox read by a handful of fellow gonads with little better to do with their power supply........

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[quote user="John"]If it went awful, then clearly the idea of doing something in journalism would be non too suitable to me, as enthusiastic as i may be about doing it. Nothing more.[/quote]And that is my point John. Surely by putting it here in front of the ''masses'' would give you a truer reflection of it''s merits than hiding it away somewhere. And if those who write blogs don''t want the ''masses'' attention, why link them to here?

 

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[quote user="John"]If it went awful, then clearly the idea of doing something in journalism would be non too suitable to me, as enthusiastic as i may be about doing it. Nothing more.[/quote]And that is my point John. Surely by putting it here in front of the ''masses'' would give you a truer reflection of it''s merits than hiding it away somewhere. And if those who write blogs don''t want the ''masses'' attention, why link them to here?

 

[/quote]Very true lappin, but in turn your expected to extensively discuss it on a message board with those courteous enough to have read it, and while that is nothing to contend with alone, there may be too many, and it''s unfortunate to say but i''d expect you may be left with little else to do in the day. I know that seems a little pompous, and that seems to be what many are understandably getting at, but it''s not a matter of considering ones opinion over others, though there is only so many hours one can dedicate to an Internet forum. Personally speaking it takes me an age to write a blog, and as much as i''d like to talk about the subject and the contents of the blog, i can''t spend 12 hours a day doing so.But one of the main issues would be coming up face to face with those looking to take chunks out of you with abuse, and the Internet is populated with many all to willing to leave you in a heap. Perhaps comfortability comes in tandem with confidence, but as a starter i''m just feeling my way into it, and the harsh nature of a message board can leave anyone at the end of their tether at the best of times.

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[quote user="John"][quote user="Bethnal Yellow and Green"][quote user="John"][quote user="lappinitup"]

I just don''t get it!

Why do people go to the trouble of writing a little football masterpiece only to post it on some obscure site (or a remote corner of this one), and then............

post a link to it on here?

Surely it would be better to open a new thread with it on here? It would have lots more people reading it and debating it which would be much more satisfying and informative to the writer rather than the same few regulars patronising praises.

Is it simply because the writers fear the backlash from the fearsome Pink-un message board? [8o|]

 

 

[/quote]After the last time i posted my blog up, it did remind me how petulant posters on here can sometimes be. Contrary to general opinion, most people on here are decent human beings, and are all of them to happy to show others a decent amount of respect. But that is not to say there aren''t a host of bitter souls that, for whatever reason, go on here to actively seek others out so they can let out some steam. Whilst constructive criticism is always appreciated, and in the long term a very helpful guiding source in furthering oneself, personal insults are far too commonplace on this forum with some. No one on here should have to put up with that, and if one wants to avoid it, so be it.I personally have a candid interest in furthering myself into journalism, and providing i can finish my academics off with a bang i''d like to think it''s possible for me. I''d assume people in this area of work tend to take more notice of you if you''ve written a blog than if you''ve had a few rambles on a forum. More to the point, a blog is something personally associated with you, via this alias you''ve created. It''s directly accessible, and for anyone that wants to gain some relative insight into your written work, that is in itself quite helpful. This is as opposed to delving into forums, and searching through your hundreds or thousands of comments strewn across the Internet, quite unpractical if one happens to take interest i should imagine.And another issue is of course the eternal fluidity of a forum. Threads you''ve spent ages writing and thinking about sink deep into the realms of Internet obscurity, without a trace. It''ll be forgotten by others soon enough, and not long after, you will. As a result it''s absolutely fair if one wants to document their thoughts that they consider worthwhile. Some may feel a little flippant about what they want to contribute on here, but there are just as many others that find retaining, and to some degree preserving their work to be in their interests.[/quote]

I work in journalism and although I can''t speak for the whole profession no where I have worked before look at people''s blogs. It is too easy for it to be  written by someone else. 

But I do think a blog is a good way for people to practice writing and to develop their own style, so they are certainly useful in that respect. I also think it is worthwhile people posting links to their blogs here rather than their actual article, as it is far too long for the message board format. I get pretty lazy and tend to ignore long posts.

[/quote]Thanks Bethnal.As i''d happily admit to, i''m naive when it comes to this area of work, but it''s one of the career choices i''m more passionate in pursuing. I may have overstated the personal importance of a blog entry, though i''m just trying to convey that it''s something i''m happy to do, and if there are any benefits to come of it it can only act as another positive in my book.[/quote]This is not really the place for careers advice, but I''m afraid Bethnal is right about blogs not being taken seriously. You may already have thought of this, but have you tried to do some work experience on a paper? That might well help make up your mind as to whether you''re cut out for journalism as a career. I don''t know what it''s like now, but the Brighton Argus used to be a decent paper.

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I think for some people writing a blog is as much a hobby as anything else. My friend writes a fashion blog just because he enjoys researching new products in his spare time and likes to share it with others. However, as the blog grew he began receiving free samples from different brands. It has also helped him get an internship with ASOS. If anyone shares the same interest the link is:

http://madefromplastic.co.uk/

I also think it''s slightly hypocritical to criticise bloggers, seen as though everyone that posts on here blogs to an extent. Everyone on here wants their opinions to be read otherwise they wouldn''t post. For some it''s a hobby, for others an addiction.

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[quote user="Salford"]

I also think it''s slightly hypocritical to criticise bloggers, seen as though everyone that posts on here blogs to an extent. Everyone on here wants their opinions to be read otherwise they wouldn''t post. For some it''s a hobby, for others an addiction.[/quote]This thread was never intended as a criticism of bloggers. My point was, if bloggers seek the peace and tranquility of another place rather than on here, that''s fine. But why then start a new thread on here to direct traffic to it? [*-)]

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I am sometimes write a blog, if I can be bothered, but nobody reads it. I also sometimes write for the university newspaper, if I can be bothered, but nobody reads it. I enjoy doing it (most of the time), and I guess that''s why I do it.

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[quote user="......and Smith must score."][quote user="Cluckbert Chase"]Utter bollox read by a handful of fellow gonads with little better to do with their power supply........[/quote]Spot on Cluck.Oh sorry, I thought you meant the message board.....[/quote]That as well............  [:)]

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[quote user="Fellas"]I am sometimes write a blog, if I can be bothered, but nobody reads it. I also sometimes write for the university newspaper, if I can be bothered, but nobody reads it. I enjoy doing it (most of the time), and I guess that''s why I do it.
[/quote]That''s because you don''t put a link to it on here! [;)]

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[quote user="Epic Beard Man"]Why don''t you try answering the OPs question instead of giving us more waffle to wade through? For your information, due to your personal aspirations, real journalists don''t go round posting links to their articles on message boards in an attempt to fish for compliments.[/quote]

are you listening to this hucks ?  [:D]

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