Brendo 0 Posted August 1, 2010 All this talk about Nelson being rubbish has been getting on my wick. Almost everyone has called him a ''League 1 defender, who will be out of his depth at Championship level''. Err, he''s never played in the champ so how can you judge? [:S]Now I am not saying he''s good enough or he isn''t, I just think you all need to give him a chance. I feel at this current time, he''s out best centre back. So why oh why can you judge him before he even plays. Let''s just wait and see at the Watford game. Feel free to quote me if I am wrong, but I reckon he''ll be ace next friday. Don''t judge on pre season, and give the poor bugger a chance!So basically - give him a chance. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InLambertWeTrust! 0 Posted August 1, 2010 I thought he was great yesterday and would definitely start him on Friday.COYY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brendo 0 Posted August 1, 2010 [quote user="CT"]I thought he was great yesterday and would definitely start him on Friday.COYY[/quote]Good man. [{][}] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I am a Banana 0 Posted August 1, 2010 [quote user="Brendo "]All this talk about Nelson being rubbish has been getting on my wick. Almost everyone has called him a ''League 1 defender, who will be out of his depth at Championship level''. Err, he''s never played in the champ so how can you judge? [:S]Now I am not saying he''s good enough or he isn''t, I just think you all need to give him a chance. I feel at this current time, he''s out best centre back. So why oh why can you judge him before he even plays. Let''s just wait and see at the Watford game. Feel free to quote me if I am wrong, but I reckon he''ll be ace next friday. Don''t judge on pre season, and give the poor bugger a chance!So basically - give him a chance. Thanks. [/quote]he has on my fifa, and he looked out of his depth [:P]We are just looking at him from last season, where he did struggle at the start and although he improved enough to cope but its a huge step to the championship and that step may be to high for him to take. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brendo 0 Posted August 1, 2010 So, if you''re looking at him from last season, he was one of the best defenders in the league, right? So if we are going to judge on pre season (yesterday''s blunder), that means Ward will be out of his depth too. Nelson was very good yesterday I thought, alot better than Ward. Which means Ward will be pants next season and we will go down then, surely? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InLambertWeTrust! 0 Posted August 1, 2010 Ward clearly wasnt fit yesterday.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I am a Banana 0 Posted August 1, 2010 [quote user="Brendo "]So, if you''re looking at him from last season, he was one of the best defenders in the league, right? LEFT!! [y]So if we are going to judge on pre season (yesterday''s blunder), that means Ward will be out of his depth too. Nelson was very good yesterday I thought, alot better than Ward. Which means Ward will be pants next season and we will go down then, surely? [/quote]Possibly yeah. I just think nelson will have to hoof the ball much more, unless he gives the ball to fox/crofts to spray the ball around, that might work !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forever Norwich 0 Posted August 1, 2010 [quote user="Brendo "]So, if you''re looking at him from last season, he was one of the best defenders in the league, right? So if we are going to judge on pre season (yesterday''s blunder), that means Ward will be out of his depth too. Nelson was very good yesterday I thought, alot better than Ward. Which means Ward will be pants next season and we will go down then, surely? [/quote]going abit far there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I am a Banana 0 Posted August 1, 2010 [quote user="NCFC-47"][quote user="Brendo "]So, if you''re looking at him from last season, he was one of the best defenders in the league, right? So if we are going to judge on pre season (yesterday''s blunder), that means Ward will be out of his depth too. Nelson was very good yesterday I thought, alot better than Ward. Which means Ward will be pants next season and we will go down then, surely? [/quote]going abit far there[/quote]well he can''t have been too bad, we didn''t conceed many. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forever Norwich 0 Posted August 1, 2010 [quote user="I am a Banana"][quote user="NCFC-47"][quote user="Brendo "]So, if you''re looking at him from last season, he was one of the best defenders in the league, right? So if we are going to judge on pre season (yesterday''s blunder), that means Ward will be out of his depth too. Nelson was very good yesterday I thought, alot better than Ward. Which means Ward will be pants next season and we will go down then, surely? [/quote]going abit far there[/quote]well he can''t have been too bad, we didn''t conceed many.[/quote]he was good lol just saying he wasnt one of the best Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brendo 0 Posted August 1, 2010 [quote user="NCFC-47"][quote user="I am a Banana"][quote user="NCFC-47"][quote user="Brendo "]So, if you''re looking at him from last season, he was one of the best defenders in the league, right? So if we are going to judge on pre season (yesterday''s blunder), that means Ward will be out of his depth too. Nelson was very good yesterday I thought, alot better than Ward. Which means Ward will be pants next season and we will go down then, surely? [/quote]going abit far there[/quote]well he can''t have been too bad, we didn''t conceed many.[/quote]he was good lol just saying he wasnt one of the best[/quote]Top 5 for you then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I am a Banana 0 Posted August 1, 2010 I cant comment on that, as I saw him week in week out and didn''t see any others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davo 0 Posted August 1, 2010 I think with a more cultured outlet immediately in front of him in Fox who hopefully will be available for more shorter range passes his distribution skills won''t matter quite so much. He just has to make the right decision on whether to hoof it or pass it short to one of the better passers.I do still some reservations about him once he has been turned (which will happen) by pace. Like all our team I will give him time to prove himself at this level before I start slagging him off (as I do with all players).Davo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Carrow 394 Posted August 1, 2010 I view this quite simply. Nelson in terms of style and ability is exactly the same as Doherty only on far less money- which is why we got rid of Doc. Doherty was ok at Champs level and i think Nelson will be too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scrimmage 0 Posted August 1, 2010 Right, Nelson is NOT our best centre back. He is our most in-form CB, but no way can you say he is a better player than Ward, Whitbread or even Askou. I like the guy but he isn''t exactly comfortable on the ball, whereas Whitbread and Ward definitely are. I''m not judging this on his performance yesterday, but on last season. He tended to hoof the ball either up field or out the stadium.Now, he may be better suited to a team like Coventry who will now play a lot of balls in the air up to the front men. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Chops 7 Posted August 1, 2010 [quote user="Brendo "]All this talk about Nelson being rubbish has been getting on my wick. Almost everyone has called him a ''League 1 defender, who will be out of his depth at Championship level''. Err, he''s never played in the champ so how can you judge? [:S]Now I am not saying he''s good enough or he isn''t, I just think you all need to give him a chance. I feel at this current time, he''s out best centre back. So why oh why can you judge him before he even plays. Let''s just wait and see at the Watford game. Feel free to quote me if I am wrong, but I reckon he''ll be ace next friday. Don''t judge on pre season, and give the poor bugger a chance!So basically - give him a chance. Thanks. [/quote]Reading between the lines here, I think you''re saying we should give him a chance? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Chops 7 Posted August 1, 2010 [quote user="Brendo "]All this talk about Nelson being rubbish has been getting on my wick. Almost everyone has called him a ''League 1 defender, who will be out of his depth at Championship level''. Err, he''s never played in the champ so how can you judge? [:S]Now I am not saying he''s good enough or he isn''t, I just think you all need to give him a chance. I feel at this current time, he''s out best centre back. So why oh why can you judge him before he even plays. Let''s just wait and see at the Watford game. Feel free to quote me if I am wrong, but I reckon he''ll be ace next friday. Don''t judge on pre season, and give the poor bugger a chance!So basically - give him a chance. Thanks. [/quote]A couple of things.a) By saying he''s our best centre-back, you''re judging Elliott Ward, aren''t you?b) Nelson''s problems are there for all to see. He can''t pass a ball, can''t play the ball with his feet at all, is sluggish and has no acceleration. He is a good defender in the air and will deal with a long ball team quite comfortably but he has zero subtlety in his game. Basically, Nelson = Poor Man''s Doc. Given that Doc apparently found his level in League One, we should be worried that a player with Nelson''s limited gifts is going to be one of our centre backs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brendo 0 Posted August 1, 2010 [quote user="scrimmage"]He is our most in-form CB[/quote]He sure is, and that is exactly what I said. I really like Askou, hope he will be fit soon. As for Whitbread, everytime he has played (very little), he just hasn''t impressed me. Maybe he wasn''t properly fit at the time, but I thought he was not very good really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yobocop 1,439 Posted August 2, 2010 yeah agree brendo - all this talk about Ward and Whitbread being the ''chosen two'' well no...Nelson would be the 1st defender I would pick.Its up to Ward, Askou and Whitbread to get the other spot. My money is on Ward for Friday night v. Watford. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brendo 0 Posted August 2, 2010 [quote user="Give Peas a Chance "]yeah agree brendo - all this talk about Ward and Whitbread being the ''chosen two'' well no...Nelson would be the 1st defender I would pick.Its up to Ward, Askou and Whitbread to get the other spot. My money is on Ward for Friday night v. Watford.[/quote]Don''t think the other two are fit mate. I actually really rate Askou, but hasn''t played enough probably. Whitbread really isn''t that good in my view, although everyone thinks he''s like our best defender. No idea why. [:S] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norfolk Mustard 106 Posted August 2, 2010 [quote user="Brendo "][quote user="Give Peas a Chance "]yeah agree brendo - all this talk about Ward and Whitbread being the ''chosen two'' well no...Nelson would be the 1st defender I would pick. Its up to Ward, Askou and Whitbread to get the other spot. My money is on Ward for Friday night v. Watford.[/quote]Don''t think the other two are fit mate. I actually really rate Askou, but hasn''t played enough probably. Whitbread really isn''t that good in my view, although everyone thinks he''s like our best defender. No idea why. [:S][/quote]I have never understood the support that Whitbread appears to have from some fans. There has been very little on which to make any meaningful judgement - I hope he does become decent, but what have we seen so far? We''ve spent a lot of time and money attempting to get the guy ready to play - and when he has it''s been nothing remarkable one way or the other. Perhaps he''s spent too much time resting; probably dreaming he''s some kind of Thierry Henry - well at least he wears his socks in a similar fashion!Here''s an article about this odd habit of ''pulling yer socks up''.....Do only cool players do this? Im not sure why but heres the top 10 anyway.1- Thierry HenryCould it be anyone else? i think he started this craze and i dont think its because his legs were cold2- John TerryWhat are you doing JT. Your a bruiser, not an elegant forward like Thierry. Pull your socks down3- Rio FerdinandIm not sure he does anymore. Quite a continental player and looks good on the ball so well let him off4- Dimitar BerbatovJust about above the knee. Not suprising really from the bulgarian who likes to look cool5- Marcus BentMuch travelled forward. Some may say over rated. Scored a hatrick last time i saw him with his socks up. Very high sock line.6- Daniel Van BuytenAt 6ft 5 and being the son of a wrestler. The Belgian giant is probbably the hardest player from this elite group7- Philippe MexesThe most notorious sock above knee culprit in Italy, has at times challenged Thierry in terms of leg covered8- Sergio RamosThe young spaniard loves it, absolutley loves it9- Fernando TorresOften above the knee line. Well done though Fernando, you are world class10- Diomansy CamaraThe extremist sock wearer completes the top ten. Skillfull player, unlucky with injuryClose calls:Emanuelle Adebayor- You think he does but it just his legs are that long and thinChristiano Ronaldo- Used to do so when first moved to Old TraffordManuel Almunia- Very nearly Manuel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I am a Banana 0 Posted August 2, 2010 Be quiet and put a sock innot !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syteanric 1 Posted August 3, 2010 [quote user="NCFC-47"][quote user="I am a Banana"][quote user="NCFC-47"][quote user="Brendo "]So, if you''re looking at him from last season, he was one of the best defenders in the league, right? So if we are going to judge on pre season (yesterday''s blunder), that means Ward will be out of his depth too. Nelson was very good yesterday I thought, alot better than Ward. Which means Ward will be pants next season and we will go down then, surely? [/quote]going abit far there[/quote]well he can''t have been too bad, we didn''t conceed many.[/quote]he was good lol just saying he wasnt one of the best[/quote]definatley in the top 5. find me more than 5 better defenders in league 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites