Ooh Ahh Lee Power 2 Posted August 4, 2010 Can he ever be forgiven? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCFC4LIFE 0 Posted August 4, 2010 Stupid question.............. never!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pete Raven 276 Posted August 4, 2010 http://www.pinkun.com/content/pinkun/norwich-city/story.aspx?brand=PINKUNOnline&category=Norwich&tBrand=PINKUNOnline&tCategory=xDefault&itemid=NOED04%20Aug%202010%2009%3A52%3A53%3A747 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ooh Ahh Lee Power 2 Posted August 4, 2010 For someone who played over 200 games for us in a 7 year stint, it does seem a shame he is remembered for joining Ipswich. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Congo Canary 0 Posted August 4, 2010 Orwell drink''n, baby eat''n, sister sleep''n never to be forgiven Judas C***! I feel quite strongly about this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Power Hamster 0 Posted August 4, 2010 What did Andy Marshall do wrong? He is a professional footballer and he changed jobs from one employer to another, presumably because he felt it would further his career.Some people seem to have unrealistic expectations that players will (or ought to) show the same level of loyalty to their club that we do as supporters. If that ever was the case, it certainly isn''t these days. The more money there is in the game, the more mercenary players will become.Whether that is a good thing is another argument, but that''s the way it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Rider 0 Posted August 4, 2010 [quote user="Congo Canary"]Orwell drink''n, baby eat''n, sister sleep''n never to be forgiven Judas C***! I feel quite strongly about this[/quote]Wow - and we wonder why football fans sometimes have such a bed reputation!!I don''t particularly like Marshall for joining Ipswich but lets face it the club were also to blame for letting him run down his contract. Admittedly he was within his rights to do so but we should have brought matters to a head 12 months before and tried to sell him. To my knowledge Marshall has never bad mouthed us in favour of Ipswich so now that he no longer plays for them I have no issue with him at all.I still vividly recall his first full start for us in the New Years day match v Newcastle in ''95. It was a truly blinding performance, I have never seen a more impressive full debut before or since. We should remember that (and other performances) rather than petty local rivalry now that the guy is set to move into a coaching role with youngsters. I wish him well although judging by most previous Marshall posts I''ll probably be the only one! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wizard 0 Posted August 4, 2010 I''ve already forgiven him, besides, he''s a nice lad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lincs CR 0 Posted August 4, 2010 He may well have joined Ipswich but we shouldn''t remember him simply for that, at the end of the day he is a footballer who should consider any club that comes calling as a potential road to bettering his career, not a fan who holds bitter rivalries with another side. He did some great stuff for us, so in my eyes he''s forgiven.On another note, the grass roots goalkeeping academy idea he''s working on sounds like a top idea! All the old pros working with kids age 8 and upwards who are interested in becoming footballers, great to see! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bobzilla 133 Posted August 4, 2010 He was a good servant to us. I personally have no grief with him. We could have done with him instead of his namesake in 2008/9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ca 1 Posted August 4, 2010 He''s a very nice lad and I''ve always liked him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,722 Posted August 4, 2010 [quote user="cityangel"]He''s a very nice lad and I''ve always liked him. [/quote]What a surprising post from one of the two resident middle aged posters who like Holt,before that Hucks and now it would appear Marshall before him.[:P] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,735 Posted August 4, 2010 Had he have been a mercenary foreigner who had just been passing through and joined them after playing for us for a couple of years, who could partially understand it, but Marshall was with Norwich from the age of 10 and came up through the ranks and would have known all about the rivalry, there were other clubs he could of joined besides them.Will Tottenham fans ever forgive Sol Canpbell for joining Arsenal......I somehow doubt it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZiggyPiggy 0 Posted August 4, 2010 [quote user="Yellow Rider"][quote user="Congo Canary"]Orwell drink''n, baby eat''n, sister sleep''n never to be forgiven Judas C***! I feel quite strongly about this[/quote]Wow - and we wonder why football fans sometimes have such a bed reputation!!I don''t particularly like Marshall for joining Ipswich but lets face it the club were also to blame for letting him run down his contract. Admittedly he was within his rights to do so but we should have brought matters to a head 12 months before and tried to sell him. To my knowledge Marshall has never bad mouthed us in favour of Ipswich so now that he no longer plays for them I have no issue with him at all.I still vividly recall his first full start for us in the New Years day match v Newcastle in ''95. It was a truly blinding performance, I have never seen a more impressive full debut before or since. We should remember that (and other performances) rather than petty local rivalry now that the guy is set to move into a coaching role with youngsters. I wish him well although judging by most previous Marshall posts I''ll probably be the only one! [/quote]Ahem, "Petty local rivalry".Pete, get him removed from the board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wizard 0 Posted August 4, 2010 [quote user="GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary"]Had he have been a mercenary foreigner who had just been passing through and joined them after playing for us for a couple of years, who could partially understand it, but Marshall was with Norwich from the age of 10 and came up through the ranks and would have known all about the rivalry, there were other clubs he could of joined besides them.Will Tottenham fans ever forgive Sol Canpbell for joining Arsenal......I somehow doubt it[/quote]Seriously, how old are you?He needed employment, would you have paid for him to sit on the dole, just to keep your silly pride intact? Jeez. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ca 1 Posted August 4, 2010 [quote user="TIL 1010"][quote user="cityangel"] He''s a very nice lad and I''ve always liked him. [/quote]What a surprising post from one of the two resident middle aged posters who like Holt,before that Hucks and now it would appear Marshall before him.[:P][/quote]I''ve never had a thing for Holt you''re getting me mixed up with Kathy, As for Andy I know him and as I said he''s a nice person and would do anything for anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent Canary 0 Posted August 4, 2010 Doesnt bother me in the slightest. Players often dont show loyalty to clubs, clubs often dont show loyalty to managers, fans often dont show loyalty to managers/players. Such is life.If the fans were to get on their high house, presumably local lad who came up from the academy Ian Henderson could criticise the fans for booing him in our promotion year? (Ignoring what has gone on since) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Chops 7 Posted August 4, 2010 I don''t forgive him. You don''t leave Norwich City to join Ipswich Town. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wizard 0 Posted August 4, 2010 [quote user="Mister Chops"]I don''t forgive him. You don''t leave Norwich City to join Ipswich Town.[/quote]Err? Crooky did, yet you welcomed him back!OK, I''m being facitious here, but thats how absurd this arguement is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Chops 7 Posted August 4, 2010 [quote user="First Wizard"][quote user="Mister Chops"]I don''t forgive him. You don''t leave Norwich City to join Ipswich Town.[/quote]Err? Crooky did, yet you welcomed him back![/quote]Not as a player I didn''t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary 1,735 Posted August 4, 2010 [quote user="First Wizard"][quote user="GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary"] Had he have been a mercenary foreigner who had just been passing through and joined them after playing for us for a couple of years, who could partially understand it, but Marshall was with Norwich from the age of 10 and came up through the ranks and would have known all about the rivalry, there were other clubs he could of joined besides them.Will Tottenham fans ever forgive Sol Canpbell for joining Arsenal......I somehow doubt it[/quote]Seriously, how old are you?He needed employment, would you have paid for him to sit on the dole, just to keep your silly pride intact? Jeez.[/quote]Don''t think he would have been on the dole!, as I''ve said there were other clubs he could have joined at the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Attleborough_Canary 65 Posted August 4, 2010 [quote user="First Wizard"][quote user="GJL Mid-Norfolk Canary"] Had he have been a mercenary foreigner who had just been passing through and joined them after playing for us for a couple of years, who could partially understand it, but Marshall was with Norwich from the age of 10 and came up through the ranks and would have known all about the rivalry, there were other clubs he could of joined besides them.Will Tottenham fans ever forgive Sol Canpbell for joining Arsenal......I somehow doubt it[/quote]Seriously, how old are you?He needed employment, would you have paid for him to sit on the dole, just to keep your silly pride intact? Jeez.[/quote]Err Wiz, aren''t you the person who just posted this???http://www.pinkun.com/cs_pinkun/cs/forums/2204989/ShowPost.aspxPot and kettle perhaps? I know they are not exactly the same circumstances but Preston are nobodies to us and he''s the enemy, yet someone who doesn''t forgive a player for moving to Ipsh1t from us needs to grow up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syteanric 1 Posted August 4, 2010 [quote user="Ooh Ahh Lee Power"]For someone who played over 200 games for us in a 7 year stint, it does seem a shame he is remembered for joining Ipswich.[/quote]I prefer to remember him for getting relegated with us, Ipswich, Wolves and Millwall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I am a Banana 0 Posted August 4, 2010 He wasn''t around when I started watching so am unsure, but i do feel it is slightly unfair to still moan at him. Joe Royal was an ncfc player but doesn''t seem to have got the abuse marshall did!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Rider 0 Posted August 4, 2010 [quote user="Mister Chops"]I don''t forgive him. You don''t leave Norwich City to join Ipswich Town.[/quote]Presumably you detested John Deehan then during that halycon period Aug. ''92 - December ''93? I feel sorry for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted August 4, 2010 Andy Marshall really hasn''t been on my radar for some time now.But I can understand people''s bitterness at what happened, being named player of the season and then leaving for Ipswich was a bitter pill to swallow.Think about Grant Holt going to Ipswich this summer and you''ll get the idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Chops 7 Posted August 4, 2010 [quote user="Yellow Rider"][quote user="Mister Chops"]I don''t forgive him. You don''t leave Norwich City to join Ipswich Town.[/quote]Presumably you detested John Deehan then during that halycon period Aug. ''92 - December ''93? I feel sorry for you. [/quote]No, because what people do in management is different. Hence I never "detested" Bryan Hamilton purely because he was a scummer, though by the end of his management "career" I pretty much hated him for his ineptitude.Deehan was a crap manager though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 0 Posted August 4, 2010 Football is a tribal passion where normal rules do not apply, so I''ll never forgive the judas so & so.... Never that fond of Deehan either and Hamilton was a grade A cock! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Albinozak 0 Posted August 4, 2010 At the end of the day he furthered his career. He plated UEFA Cup football with two different clubs. Like it or not! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites