Youngsters?

[BlyBlyBabes 0]

Earlier in the season we were pretty much all very pleased with the opportunities Lambert was giving to our locally produced youngsters coming through the system - and, in general, their performances.

These opportunities seem to have dried up.

Not good.

Whilst seeking to pin down promotion we must also build for the future. Lambert needs to make more use of the squad (like leading Prem clubs).....................unless, of course, they''re just making up the numbers until.......? 

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[Dr. Ink 0]

Smith and CMartin are both youngsters! Adeyami and Daley are the main ones to have been pushed aside, but probably for a good reason. Spillane is still in the picture but needs to get his match fitness back. I just hope he can play Left-Back. 

[Ivana_rubyatitz 6]

[quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]Lambert needs to make more use of the squad (like leading Prem clubs)

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I hate to state the blindingly obvious, but the sort of squad rotation practiced by the likes of Chelsea and Man Utd is hardly an option for Lambert.  Top teams in the Prem could easily field two complete teams of genuine Prem quality players (in the case of the big 5 maybe even three teams).  That is not an option for us. 

Yes we have squad numbers, but due to lack of cash we don''t have that sort of depth.  Ok we have a couple of players for each position but in most cases it is a no brainer who the first choice is and the other is just a temporary option.  I think we could loan a couple of youngsters out to gain experience elsewhere like we did with Martin and Spillane though as they are not getting near our squad.

With the exception of the youngsters specifically mentioned elsewhere on this thread, which ones do you think are ready for first team football here exactly BBB?

[BlyBlyBabes 0]

[quote user="Pboro_Canary"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]Lambert needs to make more use of the squad (like leading Prem clubs)

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I hate to state the blindingly obvious, but the sort of squad rotation practiced by the likes of Chelsea and Man Utd is hardly an option for Lambert.  Top teams in the Prem could easily field two complete teams of genuine Prem quality players (in the case of the big 5 maybe even three teams).  That is not an option for us. 

Yes we have squad numbers, but due to lack of cash we don''t have that sort of depth.  Ok we have a couple of players for each position but in most cases it is a no brainer who the first choice is and the other is just a temporary option.  I think we could loan a couple of youngsters out to gain experience elsewhere like we did with Martin and Spillane though as they are not getting near our squad.

With the exception of the youngsters specifically mentioned elsewhere on this thread, which ones do you think are ready for first team football here exactly BBB?

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So you figure that it''s blindingly obvious that most of them are just making up numbers?

Here''s a couple of thoughts.

Should Spillane not be back in the team given his performances earlier in the season? Didn''t Francomb come in earlier in the season and do well before getting injured?

If we''re not going to be able to get Fraser Forster in then Rudd needs to get some decent action before season end I would think.

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[morty 0]

[quote user="BlyBlyBabes"][quote user="Pboro_Canary"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]Lambert needs to make more use of the squad (like leading Prem clubs)

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I hate to state the blindingly obvious, but the sort of squad rotation practiced by the likes of Chelsea and Man Utd is hardly an option for Lambert.  Top teams in the Prem could easily field two complete teams of genuine Prem quality players (in the case of the big 5 maybe even three teams).  That is not an option for us. 

Yes we have squad numbers, but due to lack of cash we don''t have that sort of depth.  Ok we have a couple of players for each position but in most cases it is a no brainer who the first choice is and the other is just a temporary option.  I think we could loan a couple of youngsters out to gain experience elsewhere like we did with Martin and Spillane though as they are not getting near our squad.

With the exception of the youngsters specifically mentioned elsewhere on this thread, which ones do you think are ready for first team football here exactly BBB?

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So you figure that it''s blindingly obvious that most of them are just making up numbers?

Here''s a couple of thoughts.

Should Spillane not be back in the team given his performances earlier in the season? Didn''t Francomb come in earlier in the season and do well before getting injured?

If we''re not going to be able to get Fraser Forster in then Rudd needs to get some decent action before season end I would think.

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[/quote]Spillane isn''t match fit enough yet, neither is Francomb, so don''t really see your points there, I am sure when they are fit they will be competing for places.Seriously would you drop Forster just to further Rudd? While we are trying to do maybe the most important thing in Norwich City''s recent history and get the hell out of this league?Lambert has quite clearly applied the "If they are good enough, they are old enough" policy so if there were any other youngsters worth a go he would have no fear in blooding them.But frankly, now really isn''t the time.

[Jacko 0]

Luke Daley is only just coming back from injury and George Francomb is also still recovering from injury. Martin and Smith are key first team players as is Spillane when he is fit. Adeyemi is at the level Korey Smith was last year where he isnt quite ready. But I think Lambert will continue to blood the youngsters for the simple reason. They all deserve to be there on merit.

[BlyBlyBabes 0]

[quote user="morty"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"][quote user="Pboro_Canary"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]Lambert needs to make more use of the squad (like leading Prem clubs)

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I hate to state the blindingly obvious, but the sort of squad rotation practiced by the likes of Chelsea and Man Utd is hardly an option for Lambert.  Top teams in the Prem could easily field two complete teams of genuine Prem quality players (in the case of the big 5 maybe even three teams).  That is not an option for us. 

Yes we have squad numbers, but due to lack of cash we don''t have that sort of depth.  Ok we have a couple of players for each position but in most cases it is a no brainer who the first choice is and the other is just a temporary option.  I think we could loan a couple of youngsters out to gain experience elsewhere like we did with Martin and Spillane though as they are not getting near our squad.

With the exception of the youngsters specifically mentioned elsewhere on this thread, which ones do you think are ready for first team football here exactly BBB?

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So you figure that it''s blindingly obvious that most of them are just making up numbers?

Here''s a couple of thoughts.

Should Spillane not be back in the team given his performances earlier in the season? Didn''t Francomb come in earlier in the season and do well before getting injured?

If we''re not going to be able to get Fraser Forster in then Rudd needs to get some decent action before season end I would think.

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Spillane isn''t match fit enough yet, neither is Francomb, so don''t really see your points there, I am sure when they are fit they will be competing for places.

Seriously would you drop Forster just to further Rudd? While we are trying to do maybe the most important thing in Norwich City''s recent history and get the hell out of this league?

Lambert has quite clearly applied the "If they are good enough, they are old enough" policy so if there were any other youngsters worth a go he would have no fear in blooding them.

But frankly, now really isn''t the time.
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Both Spillane and Askou played 45 min for the reserves on 2 Feb, and 60 min for them on 10 Feb

Francomb played 90 min on each occasion.

When we''ve secured promotion Forster should be dropped immediately if we can''t get him in, and Rudd played full time instead. By the same reasoning any player who is in on loan and any who won''t be able to hack it in the Champ must be dropped right away to give the best of our youngsters a chance to stake a claim.

By the way, it''s now 24 Feb - just when do you think those guys are going to be ''match fit''?

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[morty 0]

[quote user="BlyBlyBabes"][quote user="morty"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"][quote user="Pboro_Canary"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]Lambert needs to make more use of the squad (like leading Prem clubs)

 [/quote]

I hate to state the blindingly obvious, but the sort of squad rotation practiced by the likes of Chelsea and Man Utd is hardly an option for Lambert.  Top teams in the Prem could easily field two complete teams of genuine Prem quality players (in the case of the big 5 maybe even three teams).  That is not an option for us. 

Yes we have squad numbers, but due to lack of cash we don''t have that sort of depth.  Ok we have a couple of players for each position but in most cases it is a no brainer who the first choice is and the other is just a temporary option.  I think we could loan a couple of youngsters out to gain experience elsewhere like we did with Martin and Spillane though as they are not getting near our squad.

With the exception of the youngsters specifically mentioned elsewhere on this thread, which ones do you think are ready for first team football here exactly BBB?

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So you figure that it''s blindingly obvious that most of them are just making up numbers?

Here''s a couple of thoughts.

Should Spillane not be back in the team given his performances earlier in the season? Didn''t Francomb come in earlier in the season and do well before getting injured?

If we''re not going to be able to get Fraser Forster in then Rudd needs to get some decent action before season end I would think.

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[/quote]Spillane isn''t match fit enough yet, neither is Francomb, so don''t really see your points there, I am sure when they are fit they will be competing for places.Seriously would you drop Forster just to further Rudd? While we are trying to do maybe the most important thing in Norwich City''s recent history and get the hell out of this league?Lambert has quite clearly applied the "If they are good enough, they are old enough" policy so if there were any other youngsters worth a go he would have no fear in blooding them.But frankly, now really isn''t the time.[/quote]

Both Spillane and Askou played 45 min for the reserves on 2 Feb, and 60 min for them on 10 Feb

Francomb played 90 min on each occasion.

When we''ve secured promotion Forster should be dropped immediately if we can''t get him in, and Rudd played full time instead. By the same reasoning any player who is in on loan and any who won''t be able to hack it in the Champ must be dropped right away to give the best of our youngsters a chance to stake a claim.

By the way, it''s now 24 Feb - just when do you think those guys are going to be ''match fit''?

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[/quote]So by your amazing powers of deduction, which outrank Lamberts actual eyes seeing these players in training every day, they are ready for 90 minutes?If players aren''t in the team look like they may be a better option then they will get their chance. I would suggest that when the team is winning and comfortable is the time to add the odd youngster, not just now when we are struggling to find form. Bringing a youngster in and him not doing well is potentially damaging when a fickle crowd get on his back (Remember Henderson?)Youngsters can play reserve games, then go out on loan to lower leagues to toughen them up. They must only be used in our first team when they are good enough and fit enough.Rudd will be likely brought in if we manage to gain promotion before the end of the season and there is less pressure to win.

[BlyBlyBabes 0]

[quote user="morty"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"][quote user="morty"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"][quote user="Pboro_Canary"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]Lambert needs to make more use of the squad (like leading Prem clubs)

 [/quote]

I hate to state the blindingly obvious, but the sort of squad rotation practiced by the likes of Chelsea and Man Utd is hardly an option for Lambert.  Top teams in the Prem could easily field two complete teams of genuine Prem quality players (in the case of the big 5 maybe even three teams).  That is not an option for us. 

Yes we have squad numbers, but due to lack of cash we don''t have that sort of depth.  Ok we have a couple of players for each position but in most cases it is a no brainer who the first choice is and the other is just a temporary option.  I think we could loan a couple of youngsters out to gain experience elsewhere like we did with Martin and Spillane though as they are not getting near our squad.

With the exception of the youngsters specifically mentioned elsewhere on this thread, which ones do you think are ready for first team football here exactly BBB?

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So you figure that it''s blindingly obvious that most of them are just making up numbers?

Here''s a couple of thoughts.

Should Spillane not be back in the team given his performances earlier in the season? Didn''t Francomb come in earlier in the season and do well before getting injured?

If we''re not going to be able to get Fraser Forster in then Rudd needs to get some decent action before season end I would think.

 

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Spillane isn''t match fit enough yet, neither is Francomb, so don''t really see your points there, I am sure when they are fit they will be competing for places.

Seriously would you drop Forster just to further Rudd? While we are trying to do maybe the most important thing in Norwich City''s recent history and get the hell out of this league?

Lambert has quite clearly applied the "If they are good enough, they are old enough" policy so if there were any other youngsters worth a go he would have no fear in blooding them.

But frankly, now really isn''t the time.
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Both Spillane and Askou played 45 min for the reserves on 2 Feb, and 60 min for them on 10 Feb

Francomb played 90 min on each occasion.

When we''ve secured promotion Forster should be dropped immediately if we can''t get him in, and Rudd played full time instead. By the same reasoning any player who is in on loan and any who won''t be able to hack it in the Champ must be dropped right away to give the best of our youngsters a chance to stake a claim.

By the way, it''s now 24 Feb - just when do you think those guys are going to be ''match fit''?

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So by your amazing powers of deduction, which outrank Lamberts actual eyes seeing these players in training every day, they are ready for 90 minutes?

If players aren''t in the team look like they may be a better option then they will get their chance. I would suggest that when the team is winning and comfortable is the time to add the odd youngster, not just now when we are struggling to find form. Bringing a youngster in and him not doing well is potentially damaging when a fickle crowd get on his back (Remember Henderson?)

Youngsters can play reserve games, then go out on loan to lower leagues to toughen them up. They must only be used in our first team when they are good enough and fit enough.

Rudd will be likely brought in if we manage to gain promotion before the end of the season and there is less pressure to win.
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Did I say that? Hmmmm...........

I think you''ll find that I asked you when you thought they would be ready. (Since you know they''re not ready - yet)

And maybe you could explain to those of us who are not so sharp and voluble as you exactly what it takes to transform a fit player into a match fit player? I would have thought the answer was playing and getting competitive minutes under his belt - but apparently you have a different recipe.

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