William Darby 0 Posted January 31, 2010 Libel for what really? Saying we''re skint? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 31, 2010 [quote user="The Pig Will Eat You"]Libel for what really? Saying we''re skint? [/quote][:|] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted January 31, 2010 [quote user="The Pig Will Eat You"]Libel for what really? Saying we''re skint? [/quote]Defamation of our business.As previously posted what if all our creditors believed this story, hit the panic button and demanded payment in full of loans etc.And if someone prints something that is blatantly incorrect you cannot get away with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack Barak 46 Posted January 31, 2010 [quote user="morty"][quote user="The Pig Will Eat You"]Libel for what really? Saying we''re skint? [/quote]Defamation of our business.As previously posted what if all our creditors believed this story, hit the panic button and demanded payment in full of loans etc.And if someone prints something that is blatantly incorrect you cannot get away with it.[/quote]Also, they are rubbish! Murdoch owned pap, if only there was an alternative to sky tv. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarycol 0 Posted January 31, 2010 and why did the NOTW take the article off its website so soon after the legal letter was made known to everyone ? They knew they had to comply with Norwich City''s legal team but they have not done so completely Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
William Darby 0 Posted January 31, 2010 This all sums up what society has come to, since this modern day suing anybody at a drop of a hat. It comes down to what if this or what if that. Celebs threaten to sue papers for the slightest thing and settle out of court, they cry about how hurt they''ve been but in truth, they love the publicity and easy money and ultimately nobody really gives two ***** about the alleged story in the first place.Take City and the NOTW, nobody gives a **** really, nobody with any clout, creditors won''t shiite themselves over a comic''s story. The moaning about it has created more publicity than what the original story did. Nobody cares though, I reckon it should come to nothing. If the club wants to try and get some cash, it won''t be because of the damage, it''ll be because we can stoop as low as the gutter to get it. Simply because it''s money and we''re skint, basically what the story said.Me, I don''t buy into the damage it could cause, because it''s bollox.As a footnote, of course, courses of action should be in place, in case papers publicly say Mr X is a pedo when he isn''t or Mr X is a murderer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
William Darby 0 Posted January 31, 2010 [quote user="Kent Canary"][quote user="morty"][quote user="The Pig Will Eat You"]Libel for what really? Saying we''re skint? [/quote]Defamation of our business.As previously posted what if all our creditors believed this story, hit the panic button and demanded payment in full of loans etc.And if someone prints something that is blatantly incorrect you cannot get away with it.[/quote]Also, they are rubbish! Murdoch owned pap, if only there was an alternative to sky tv.[/quote]So you''re saying the NOTW is rubbish, Murdoch owned pap.... but creditors might believe it. Creditors must be the thickest hoard of ****tards going then[*-)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 31, 2010 So what you''re saying is that it''s okay for a newspaper to publish any old rubbish they fancy, in order to sell a few more papers and make a bit more money, but it''s not okay for people to act within their rights and sue the paper for doing so?I do agree that there is a rising culture of suing people for things like personal injury and so on, purely from the point of view of making a few quid, but I don''t really think there''s any argument against the club threatening to sue the NOTW in this case. Without doubt it is the correct thing to do, even if it is just from the point of view of discouraging the media from printing baseless junk about NCFC in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,282 Posted January 31, 2010 The News of the World won''t be quaking and coughing in their rompers with the threat of NCFC taking legal action against them....That''s probably why they didn''t print an apology regarding the article stating - that we''re skint and heading for administration..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
William Darby 0 Posted January 31, 2010 [quote user="I.S."]So what you''re saying is that it''s okay for a newspaper to publish any old rubbish they fancy, in order to sell a few more papers and make a bit more money, but it''s not okay for people to act within their rights and sue the paper for doing so?I do agree that there is a rising culture of suing people for things like personal injury and so on, purely from the point of view of making a few quid, but I don''t really think there''s any argument against the club threatening to sue the NOTW in this case. Without doubt it is the correct thing to do, even if it is just from the point of view of discouraging the media from printing baseless junk about NCFC in the future.[/quote]Papers having been publishing shiite for years, most people know tabloids are the gutter press. Did Freddy Starr get damages because he didn''t actually eat a hampster? And how the **** can we sue for one of the key points ''creditors may believe the story and damage City'' when the story said we''ll be in administration by last Thursday and we haven''t? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 31, 2010 [quote user="The Pig Will Eat You"][quote user="I.S."]So what you''re saying is that it''s okay for a newspaper to publish any old rubbish they fancy, in order to sell a few more papers and make a bit more money, but it''s not okay for people to act within their rights and sue the paper for doing so?I do agree that there is a rising culture of suing people for things like personal injury and so on, purely from the point of view of making a few quid, but I don''t really think there''s any argument against the club threatening to sue the NOTW in this case. Without doubt it is the correct thing to do, even if it is just from the point of view of discouraging the media from printing baseless junk about NCFC in the future.[/quote]Papers having been publishing shiite for years, most people know tabloids are the gutter press. Did Freddy Starr get damages because he didn''t actually eat a hampster? And how the **** can we sue for one of the key points ''creditors maybelieve the story and damage City'' when the story said we''ll be inadministration by last Thursday and we haven''t?[/quote]What''s your point? That because they''ve been doing it for years it''s alright, and the club should just let the gutter press walk all over them?Let me ask you from a different angle - what would you rather the club actually did? Do you think it would not be admitting there was something in the article if we didn''t sue, regardless of the amount of damages we would be entitled to? Do you think this would have a major effect on creditors, potential signings, player morale, fan morale, and ultimately results this season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarycol 0 Posted January 31, 2010 It also reflects no the name of the club NORWICH CITY FC and its staff and supporters if you look deeper into the accusation, what they are saying is that the club was (past tense) going into administration by last thursday, that does not happen overnight does it ? there would have been a lot of speculation and rumours from those closely connected to the club ie staff and supporters sure there may be financial problems to some degree but I am sure that the directors and management now in place are well placed to deal with that, and that is why they acted so promptly last week to the accusation, if anyone has a pride in their club we should support them through the good and the bad times Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack Barak 46 Posted January 31, 2010 [quote user="The Pig Will Eat You"][quote user="Kent Canary"][quote user="morty"][quote user="The Pig Will Eat You"]Libel for what really? Saying we''re skint? [/quote]Defamation of our business.As previously posted what if all our creditors believed this story, hit the panic button and demanded payment in full of loans etc.And if someone prints something that is blatantly incorrect you cannot get away with it.[/quote]Also, they are rubbish! Murdoch owned pap, if only there was an alternative to sky tv.[/quote]So you''re saying the NOTW is rubbish, Murdoch owned pap.... but creditors might believe it. Creditors must be the thickest hoard of ****tards going then[*-)] [/quote]No, I''m saying the NOTW is Murdoch owned pap, other people said creditors might believe it. I think the whole legal action is destined to failiure, what damage can we prove, none, bu the the board feel they have to make a point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted January 31, 2010 The pig" and ultimately nobody really gives two ***** about the alleged story in the first place"other than you, it would appear Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dpit 1 Posted January 31, 2010 "Sorry we''re a crap newspaper"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
William Darby 0 Posted January 31, 2010 [quote user="I.S."][quote user="The Pig Will Eat You"][quote user="I.S."]So what you''re saying is that it''s okay for a newspaper to publish any old rubbish they fancy, in order to sell a few more papers and make a bit more money, but it''s not okay for people to act within their rights and sue the paper for doing so?I do agree that there is a rising culture of suing people for things like personal injury and so on, purely from the point of view of making a few quid, but I don''t really think there''s any argument against the club threatening to sue the NOTW in this case. Without doubt it is the correct thing to do, even if it is just from the point of view of discouraging the media from printing baseless junk about NCFC in the future.[/quote]Papers having been publishing shiite for years, most people know tabloids are the gutter press. Did Freddy Starr get damages because he didn''t actually eat a hampster? And how the **** can we sue for one of the key points ''creditors maybelieve the story and damage City'' when the story said we''ll be inadministration by last Thursday and we haven''t?[/quote]What''s your point? That because they''ve been doing it for years it''s alright, and the club should just let the gutter press walk all over them?Let me ask you from a different angle - what would you rather the club actually did? Do you think it would not be admitting there was something in the article if we didn''t sue, regardless of the amount of damages we would be entitled to? Do you think this would have a major effect on creditors, potential signings, player morale, fan morale, and ultimately results this season?[/quote]Do nothing other than state (which they already have) the story is rubbish and keep a bit of dignity rather than trying to look as though they are trying to scrounge money out of the stupid affair. Obviously we can''t say it''ll effect players signings because we''re signed good players since. (can''t sue on that excuse) Morale hasn''t been effected because the team is flying (can''t sue on that excuse). Fans morale, is there such a thing really? fans just bounce along on the ups and downs of results. Results obviously aren''t effected and as for creditors, if they believe the story, we must''ve been borrowing off ''morons are us''.The Club should move on and forget it. Pursuing it, could cause more damage in the long run, because without doubt, that''ll get reported and the longer that process happens guess how many times £23m in debt would be mentioned in the press. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 31, 2010 [quote user="The Pig Will Eat You"]Do nothing other than state (which they already have) the story is rubbish and keep a bit of dignity rather than trying to look as though they are trying to scrounge money out of the stupid affair. Obviously we can''t say it''ll effect players signings because we''re signed good players since. (can''t sue on that excuse) Morale hasn''t been effected because the team is flying (can''t sue on that excuse). Fans morale, is there such a thing really? fans just bounce along on the ups and downs of results. Results obviously aren''t effected and as for creditors, if they believe the story, we must''ve been borrowing off ''morons are us''.[/quote]I''m not sure you read my post properly. My point was, that if the club merely rubbished the suggestions without following through with at least preliminary legal action, then many, MANY people would think "there''s no smoke without fire". It''s one thing for a club to say "that newspaper report is rubbish", but how many times have we heard that, and reports have turned out to be at least partly true? Threatening to sue shows the club actually mean business, and aren''t just issuing empty threats.I don''t think any legal action will get far, but I hardly think the club have acted in an undignified way. I actually can''t really think of how the board could have handled this any better, and to suggest otherwise is pedantry in the extreme, surely? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
William Darby 0 Posted January 31, 2010 [quote user="I.S."][quote user="The Pig Will Eat You"]Do nothing other than state (which they already have) the story is rubbish and keep a bit of dignity rather than trying to look as though they are trying to scrounge money out of the stupid affair. Obviously we can''t say it''ll effect players signings because we''re signed good players since. (can''t sue on that excuse) Morale hasn''t been effected because the team is flying (can''t sue on that excuse). Fans morale, is there such a thing really? fans just bounce along on the ups and downs of results. Results obviously aren''t effected and as for creditors, if they believe the story, we must''ve been borrowing off ''morons are us''.[/quote]I''m not sure you read my post properly. My point was, that if the club merely rubbished the suggestions without following through with at least preliminary legal action, then many, MANY people would think "there''s no smoke without fire". It''s one thing for a club to say "that newspaper report is rubbish", but how many times have we heard that, and reports have turned out to be at least partly true? Threatening to sue shows the club actually mean business, and aren''t just issuing empty threats.I don''t think any legal action will get far, but I hardly think the club have acted in an undignified way. I actually can''t really think of how the board could have handled this any better, and to suggest otherwise is pedantry in the extreme, surely?[/quote]Fair enough. I.S.I think the club has handled well up to now. And it should be left there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syteanric 1 Posted February 1, 2010 [quote user="Kent Canary"][quote user="morty"][quote user="The Pig Will Eat You"]Libel for what really? Saying we''re skint? [/quote]Defamation of our business.As previously posted what if all our creditors believed this story, hit the panic button and demanded payment in full of loans etc.And if someone prints something that is blatantly incorrect you cannot get away with it.[/quote]Also, they are rubbish! Murdoch owned pap, if only there was an alternative to sky tv.[/quote]there is, Virgin media, Free view, the internet.. you dont have to give your money to "uncle Rupert" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ca 1 Posted February 1, 2010 There''s a statement on the main website now http://www.canaries.co.uk/page/NewsDetails/0,,10355~1952165,00.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birchfest 397 Posted February 1, 2010 [quote user="cityangel"]There''s a statement on the main website now http://www.canaries.co.uk/page/NewsDetails/0,,10355~1952165,00.html[/quote]Looks like we are taking this all the way then! I just hope this doesnt back fire as it could turn out to be quite expensive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ca 1 Posted February 1, 2010 Hopefully the compensation will pay ColU [:)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted February 1, 2010 [quote user="birchfest"][quote user="cityangel"]There''s a statement on the main website now http://www.canaries.co.uk/page/NewsDetails/0,,10355~1952165,00.html[/quote]Looks like we are taking this all the way then! I just hope this doesnt back fire as it could turn out to be quite expensive.[/quote]I would imagine that we have consulted people who know about these things and wouldn''t be proceeding unless we were sure of a win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Webbo118 0 Posted February 1, 2010 [quote user="WeAreYellows49"]I won''t be holding my breath lol nor will I ever buy that paper again[/quote] What were you doing buying it in the first place? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
William Darby 0 Posted February 1, 2010 Now brace yourselves for the club to be dragged through the mud Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Noseybonk 0 Posted February 1, 2010 [quote user="The Pig Will Eat You"]Now brace yourselves for the club to be dragged through the mud[/quote]Yes, because McNally has no idea what he''s doing. *sigh* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
a1canary 0 Posted February 1, 2010 [quote user="The Pig Will Eat You"]Now brace yourselves for the club to be dragged through the mud[/quote]How do you work that out? This action will drag THEM through the mud, not the other way around! There''s no doubt their ''story'' could have been damaging to our financial credibility with our creditors, and there''s no doubt it was 100% fabrication.These pitiful rags need to be shown that clubs won''t stand for this. If we sit back and say, "ho ho, silly old red tops, aren''t they a tease" they''ll just do it again and again. If we do this, and succeed, others will follow suit you can be sure and it will make them think twice or do a modicum of research next time, and bag us some much needed cash in the process. Totally the right thing to do in my view. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 5,555 Posted February 1, 2010 I''ve made this point before, but if we have now issued a writ then the club should definitely hire a law firm specialising in defamation to see the case through. It will be expensive, but not as expensive as losing a libel action. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syteanric 1 Posted February 1, 2010 well the apology was not forthcoming. so we shall wait and see what the next few weeks bring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites