Good Evening Neil 0 Posted December 15, 2009 If we didnt get promoted, in my eyes a failure of a season, would you sack Paul Lambert for failing to get us back up into the championship? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
missing in action? 0 Posted December 15, 2009 no of course not. Its not an easy thing getting out of this league and even being where we are now is a miracle after the 1st day shambles and the way things looked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Good Evening Neil 0 Posted December 15, 2009 forgot to add my view too!i wouldn''t because of the way he has turned us around, got us playing and just installed belief. Whether he would leave or not is another question Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John 0 Posted December 15, 2009 [quote user="Good Evening Neil"]forgot to add my view too!i wouldn''t because of the way he has turned us around, got us playing and just installed belief. Whether he would leave or not is another question[/quote]Yes, but it''s a matter of him sustaining or not sustaining that. If we happen to tail off and fall out of the play-offs i''m afraid we must at least put his position into question.It''s easy to say we''ll keep him on the back of such successes, like we did Gunn, and Roeder before him, and Grant before him... etc., but when their metal is put into question, and they fall short, i''m afraid we cannot just stay in limbo, and avoid making a significant decision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 15, 2009 [quote user="Big Bad John"][quote user="Good Evening Neil"]forgot to add my view too!i wouldn''t because of the way he has turned us around, got us playing and just installed belief. Whether he would leave or not is another question[/quote]Yes, but it''s a matter of him sustaining or not sustaining that. If we happen to tail off and fall out of the play-offs i''m afraid we must at least put his position into question.It''s easy to say we''ll keep him on the back of such successes, like we did Gunn, and Roeder before him, and Grant before him... etc., but when their metal is put into question, and they fall short, i''m afraid we cannot just stay in limbo, and avoid making a significant decision.[/quote]Are you serious? Lambert has worked wonders with what is very much NOT his squad. IMO he deserved 18-24 months at the very least, and we''ve seen that sacking our managers, all the way back to Worthy, definitely doesn''t give us the stability we need to progress as a club. I honestly can''t believe we''re even having this conversation given the fact we''ve won 8 out of 10 league games (I *think*)! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkbroadslim 225 Posted December 15, 2009 [quote user="Good Evening Neil"]If we didnt get promoted, in my eyes a failure of a season, would you sack Paul Lambert for failing to get us back up into the championship?[/quote]no Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HazzaJet 267 Posted December 15, 2009 If he failed to get us promoted this season I wouldn''t sack him after the way he''s turned us around and moved us from the bottom 4 to the top 4, but if we were still mid-table this time next season, I would wonder about whether it would happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryan1992 0 Posted December 15, 2009 [quote user="Big Bad John"][quote user="Good Evening Neil"]forgot to add my view too!i wouldn''t because of the way he has turned us around, got us playing and just installed belief. Whether he would leave or not is another question[/quote]Yes, but it''s a matter of him sustaining or not sustaining that. If we happen to tail off and fall out of the play-offs i''m afraid we must at least put his position into question.It''s easy to say we''ll keep him on the back of such successes, like we did Gunn, and Roeder before him, and Grant before him... etc., but when their metal is put into question, and they fall short, i''m afraid we cannot just stay in limbo, and avoid making a significant decision.[/quote]I agree, when Roeder took charge he worked wonders in his first season by keeping us up, next year was a different story!... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HazzaJet 267 Posted December 15, 2009 [quote user="I.S."][quote user="Big Bad John"][quote user="Good Evening Neil"]forgot to add my view too!i wouldn''t because of the way he has turned us around, got us playing and just installed belief. Whether he would leave or not is another question[/quote]Yes, but it''s a matter of him sustaining or not sustaining that. If we happen to tail off and fall out of the play-offs i''m afraid we must at least put his position into question.It''s easy to say we''ll keep him on the back of such successes, like we did Gunn, and Roeder before him, and Grant before him... etc., but when their metal is put into question, and they fall short, i''m afraid we cannot just stay in limbo, and avoid making a significant decision.[/quote]Are you serious? Lambert has worked wonders with what is very much NOT his squad. IMO he deserved 18-24 months at the very least, and we''ve seen that sacking our managers, all the way back to Worthy, definitely doesn''t give us the stability we need to progress as a club. I honestly can''t believe we''re even having this conversation given the fact we''ve won 8 out of 10 league games (I *think*)![/quote]And we have also not lost a league game at home since he''s come in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Humphrey 13 Posted December 15, 2009 We''ve only lost two league games full stop since he''s been here. Two defeats out of 18 - both very narrow and unlucky away defeats against two of the better sides. Can''t argue with that really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shack Attack 0 Posted December 15, 2009 No. And I would only describe the season as a ''failure'' if we dropped off the pace dramatically between now and the end of the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John 0 Posted December 15, 2009 [quote user="I.S."][quote user="Big Bad John"][quote user="Good Evening Neil"]forgot to add my view too!i wouldn''t because of the way he has turned us around, got us playing and just installed belief. Whether he would leave or not is another question[/quote]Yes, but it''s a matter of him sustaining or not sustaining that. If we happen to tail off and fall out of the play-offs i''m afraid we must at least put his position into question.It''s easy to say we''ll keep him on the back of such successes, like we did Gunn, and Roeder before him, and Grant before him... etc., but when their metal is put into question, and they fall short, i''m afraid we cannot just stay in limbo, and avoid making a significant decision.[/quote]Are you serious? Lambert has worked wonders with what is very much NOT his squad. IMO he deserved 18-24 months at the very least, and we''ve seen that sacking our managers, all the way back to Worthy, definitely doesn''t give us the stability we need to progress as a club. I honestly can''t believe we''re even having this conversation given the fact we''ve won 8 out of 10 league games (I *think*)![/quote].... [8-)]I too think it''s a little odd to have this conversation on the back of such success. But just because he is currently succeeding in his role as manager, it does not give us reason to assume he will sustain this performance. Should it seemingly irrecoverably decline, then we have to consider our options, regardless of previous accolades and successes.I only said it should be put into question should the worst happen this season, by no means did i imply that any failiure should only result in his immediate sacking.Giving him time, on the basis of at least the relative ascendancy of the club, is ideal. But as far as sacking him is concerned there are a lot of unfortunate examples that are plausible that could certainly test our conviction in this case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 4,145 Posted December 15, 2009 Plenty of "decent" sides before us have come into this division and taken more than one season to get out of it (plenty more have stayed here!) - Sheff Wed, Forest and Leeds are but 3. It would be disappointing but far from a failure if we didn''t manage it. The one huge issue then would be whether our finances would allow us to remain as one of the bigger/better sides the following season... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted December 15, 2009 No freaking way, best manager we have had in years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites