Excited Canary 19 Posted November 10, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/8353733.stmShocking news, the death of his daughter aswell-imagine how his wife must feel.I am sure I wont be the only one to say R.I.P... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gingerpele 0 Posted November 10, 2009 thats terrible, RIP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WeAreYellows49 0 Posted November 10, 2009 Tragic news R.I.P [:(] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manbearpig 0 Posted November 10, 2009 They think he committed suicide Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Excited Canary 19 Posted November 10, 2009 I was wondering that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Woman in the Stands (WITS) 0 Posted November 10, 2009 Tragic however it happened as he was so young. Thoughts with his family Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manbearpig 0 Posted November 10, 2009 not really if he did commit suicide then hes mug for doing in the manor he done if you want to kill yourself don''t involve others my thoughts go out to the train driver who now thinks he murdered someone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Bump 0 Posted November 10, 2009 If he killed himself then the only sympathy I have is for his family and friends.If not then, R.I.P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camuldonum 0 Posted November 10, 2009 Police say it is a suicide and his club say he had been having mental health problems. What a tragedy. RIP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Woman in the Stands (WITS) 0 Posted November 10, 2009 It''s tragic even if suicide because when you feel like that, you don''t think straight. Suicidal ''black dog'' thoughts dominate and over-ride all other sensibilities. Never easy for those left behind either. You feel like you should have known that something was wrong but it''s not that straightforward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gingerpele 0 Posted November 10, 2009 i think anyone who commits suicide, deserves some sympathy, i don'' think anyone wakes up, thinks oh i feel crap today, i''m going to jump of a bridge ect, there has to be something seriously wrong, and if he has mental health problems, and did commit suicide (which is all honest is the most likely situation, with the train and all) its not nesicerally all his fault, but again R.I.P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manbearpig 0 Posted November 10, 2009 Sorry but I cant feel sympathy for cowards its just how I feel. As I said before I feel sorry for the poor train driver who now has to live with that for the rest of their life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroyslefteyebrow 0 Posted November 10, 2009 [quote user="filthyrich"]Sorry but I cant feel sympathy for cowards its just how I feel. As I said before I feel sorry for the poor train driver who now has to live with that for the rest of their life.[/quote]Life, and mental health just aren''t as black and white as that, mate. Not all people who commit suicide can be labelled as ''cowards''. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manbearpig 0 Posted November 10, 2009 No maybe it was a bit strong but its a bit of a sensitive subject iv had a mate who hit someone in their van and killed them cos they wanted to commit suicide and my mates life has never been the same since he now believes hes a murderer, suicide it effects a lot of people if you want to end your life fill ya boots just don''t involve anyone else and ruin their life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WeAreYellows49 0 Posted November 10, 2009 [quote user="filthyrich"]Sorry but I cant feel sympathy for cowards its just how I feel. As I said before I feel sorry for the poor train driver who now has to live with that for the rest of their life.[/quote] It''s not cowardly, as the ex partner of a suicide victim I can tell you he was no coward. His mind wasn''t right, and it''s tragic when you see no way out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Woman in the Stands (WITS) 0 Posted November 10, 2009 It always affects someone ''cos someone''s gotta find the body whatever means taken to end life. As I said earlier, those left behind have to struggle on with their feelings.Mental health knows no class system nor wealth. Can affect anyone. When life''s s**t you don''t consider the feelings of anyone else. However wrong that may seem to the innocent bystander (train driver, van driver ... whatever) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 10,708 Posted November 10, 2009 Just my opinion, but i think Suicide is quite a selfish way out. No matter how bad your life may be - hurting ALL your loved one''s in that way at the very least is horrible. Maybe it''d be different if i was in the shoes of someone who felt that strongly, but its how i feel about the subject at the moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoots 0 Posted November 10, 2009 [quote user="WeAreYellows49"][quote user="filthyrich"]Sorry but I cant feel sympathy for cowards its just how I feel. As I said before I feel sorry for the poor train driver who now has to live with that for the rest of their life.[/quote] It''s not cowardly, as the ex partner of a suicide victim I can tell you he was no coward. His mind wasn''t right, and it''s tragic when you see no way out.[/quote]I''m with you on thay WAY. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pennywise 0 Posted November 10, 2009 i read that he lost his 2 year old daughter to a heart problem maybe he never got over it ? who are we to sit in judgement and call him a coward ? losing a child is enough to mess up anyones head ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barclay Kid 0 Posted November 10, 2009 So Sad News! Thoughts Must Go To His Family, Friends And Team Mates........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
O.T.B.C 1 Posted November 10, 2009 We can''t sit here and make judgements on the poor fella and his family, especially when we know nothing at all of his problems, hey but this is the internet......Shame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 11,131 Posted November 10, 2009 [quote user="pennywise "]i read that he lost his 2 year old daughter to a heart problem maybe he never got over it ? who are we to sit in judgement and call him a coward ? losing a child is enough to mess up anyones head ...[/quote][Y][Y] Nothing more to add,well said!RIP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canaryfan68 0 Posted November 10, 2009 I think its a very sad situation, my condolences go out to family and friends.To sit here and judge is so easy, if Robert Enke never got over his tragedy of losing his daughter....my heart goes out to all family and relatives because it is just a sad state of affairs where nobody wins and all have suffered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Chops 7 Posted November 10, 2009 This is really sad news. I suppose if he''d been British, he''d still be waiting for the train to turn up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyboy 1 Posted November 10, 2009 had tears in my eyes hearing this, remember watching him as a youngster when i was in Germany supporting Gladbach. RIP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lord montyjones 0 Posted November 10, 2009 how can anyone be a coward who commits suicide ? desperate, alone obviously ill but never a coward. thank your lucky stars depression has never knocked at your door Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkbroadslim 225 Posted November 10, 2009 Shocked and saddened by some of the comments on here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellowbeagle 0 Posted November 10, 2009 [quote user="pennywise "]i read that he lost his 2 year old daughter to a heart problem maybe he never got over it ? who are we to sit in judgement and call him a coward ? losing a child is enough to mess up anyones head ...[/quote]Totally agree, hopefully most of us will never have to experience and deal with losing a child. Sad sad story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stevie Wonder 0 Posted November 10, 2009 [quote user="pennywise "]i read that he lost his 2 year old daughter to a heart problem maybe he never got over it ? who are we to sit in judgement and call him a coward ? losing a child is enough to mess up anyones head ...[/quote]SSN reporting that he never got over the death of his daughter. All of us on this board with kids of our own will no doubt have sympathy, I have 2 little uns and the thought of losing either of them is frankly horrific. Bizarrely having heard the news break on SSN, I turned over to ESPN and saw their Bundesliga highlights and there he was playing at the weekend (played well too...)! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wizard 0 Posted November 10, 2009 [quote user="WeAreYellows49"][quote user="filthyrich"]Sorry but I cant feel sympathy for cowards its just how I feel. As I said before I feel sorry for the poor train driver who now has to live with that for the rest of their life.[/quote] It''s not cowardly, as the ex partner of a suicide victim I can tell you he was no coward. His mind wasn''t right, and it''s tragic when you see no way out.[/quote]Exactly mate. This is awful news......RIP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites