Tonight confirms exactly what I thought...

[Lambo 0]

... Our starting 11 is more than a match for the good teams in this league and beleive me MK will be pushing for promotion this season.

Our first choice 11 dominated the opening half an hour.

We need to add some quality to our bench as we looked lost without Hughes and Lappin the midfield. Smith and Adeyemi arn''t the finished articles yet.

Even then they needed a dubious penalty and we had a stonewall pen not given.

Two soloutions are possibly already at the club, Hoolahan and Rusty though, wether Lambert will use them is another matter.

If Delia and Co back Lambert to bring in 3 or 4 players i think we''ve got a very good chance of a top 6 spot.

It''s not all doom and gloom people.

[Canary Man of Kent 0]

Hallelujah! I couldn''t agree more!

I assume rusty was injured, and I don''t think lambert knows how to fit hoolahan into the solid kind of lineup he goes for.

The big problem in my opinion is that the kind of player we need is the kind that costs decent money....

[Bill 1,788]

[quote user="Lambo"]... Our starting 11 is more than a match for the good teams in this league and beleive me MK will be pushing for promotion this season.

Our first choice 11 dominated the opening half an hour.

We need to add some quality to our bench as we looked lost without Hughes and Lappin the midfield. Smith and Adeyemi arn''t the finished articles yet.

Even then they needed a dubious penalty and we had a stonewall pen not given.

Two soloutions are possibly already at the club, Hoolahan and Rusty though, wether Lambert will use them is another matter.

If Delia and Co back Lambert to bring in 3 or 4 players i think we''ve got a very good chance of a top 6 spot.

It''s not all doom and gloom people.[/quote]spot on, well said

[First Wazzock 1,014]

[quote user="Lambo"]It''s not all doom and gloom people.[/quote]

Lose Saturday and I think it''s goodnight Vienna.

[O.T.B.C 1]

Rusty was injured and would have been his sort of game,but what the hell is Lambert playing at, Hooly would have opened up them a lot more than we had and a 5 man midfield is taylor made for Hooly.

[Canary Man of Kent 0]

Agreed. Daley offered nothing, I didn''t even see any pace to be honest. Mcveigh or (preferably) hoolahan would have been a better bet.

[Time to go Delia 0]

We couldnt even pass the football to anybody in a yellow shirt for most of the game , even our goal came from a bad Dons pass , if you think we are a match for the better sides i think come the end of the season you will be very dissapointed , we are nothing more than a mid table side and not a very good one at that.

[Lambo 0]

Read my post again, i said our first choice 11 is... and the opening half hour they were playing showed it, MK offered nothing.

It''s the squad depth to cover losses to that 11 that let us down.

[Smudger 0]

[quote user="Lambo"]... Our starting 11 is more than a match for the good teams in this league and beleive me MK will be pushing for promotion this season. Our first choice 11 dominated the opening half an hour. We need to add some quality to our bench as we looked lost without Hughes and Lappin the midfield. Smith and Adeyemi arn''t the finished articles yet. Even then they needed a dubious penalty and we had a stonewall pen not given. Two soloutions are possibly already at the club, Hoolahan and Rusty though, wether Lambert will use them is another matter. If Delia and Co back Lambert to bring in 3 or 4 players i think we''ve got a very good chance of a top 6 spot. It''s not all doom and gloom people.[/quote]

That is one mighty big IF Lambo.

If they were going to back Lambert then do you not think that it would of been wise to do it before the MK Dons and Charlton games???

Not even one loan player in yet despite Lambert knowing that our squad is not strong enough is starting to tell it''s own story if you ask me.

[Smudger 0]

[quote user="1st Wazzock"]

[quote user="Lambo"]It''s not all doom and gloom people.[/quote]

Lose Saturday and I think it''s goodnight Vienna.

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Spot on Wazzy... lose Saturday and things are going to start getting nasty.

[Mello Yello 2,572]

WE have no true quality.....Or that ''special player'' that makes you rise from your seat when he has the ball.....

The standard of football tonight was poor, MK were no great shakes and we were just out of it....No ideas, no gusto and lost without a leader.....Link up play was intermittent and passing was wayward more times than accurate. It was like the Walsall, but 3 goals scored.

Iwan was able to hold the ball and allow other players to play....Holty doesn''t do that.

[Smudger 0]

[quote user="Mello Yello"]

WE have no true quality.....Or that ''special player'' that makes you rise from your seat when he has the ball.....

The standard of football tonight was poor, MK were no great shakes and we were just out of it....No ideas, no gusto and lost without a leader.....Link up play was intermittent and passing was wayward more times than accurate. It was like the Walsall, but 3 goals scored.

Iwan was able to hold the ball and allow other players to play....Holty doesn''t do that.

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Agree Mello... Holt can''t hold the ball up, has no pace and can only finish if chance are created for him and he is teed up in space or from headers at set pieces etc... [Y]

[Lambo 0]

[quote user="Smudger"]

[quote user="Lambo"]... Our starting 11 is more than a match for the good teams in this league and beleive me MK will be pushing for promotion this season. Our first choice 11 dominated the opening half an hour. We need to add some quality to our bench as we looked lost without Hughes and Lappin the midfield. Smith and Adeyemi arn''t the finished articles yet. Even then they needed a dubious penalty and we had a stonewall pen not given. Two soloutions are possibly already at the club, Hoolahan and Rusty though, wether Lambert will use them is another matter. If Delia and Co back Lambert to bring in 3 or 4 players i think we''ve got a very good chance of a top 6 spot. It''s not all doom and gloom people.[/quote]

That is one mighty big IF Lambo.

If they were going to back Lambert then do you not think that it would of been wise to do it before the MK Dons and Charlton games???

Not even one loan player in yet despite Lambert knowing that our squad is not strong enough is starting to tell it''s own story if you ask me.

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I can''t argue there mate. It is a very big IF when it comes to Delia backing the manager.

[B-ru 0]

The standard of football at this level is not the greatest, and although Holt is not Iwan, he is definitely the first name on the team sheet, you can''t deny that. He gives us 110% every game, gets bashed around (does a bit hinself) and chases lost causes. There may not be the quality there that we had a few years back, but there is a lot more desire in Holt than some of the strikers we have... Sibierski

 

Not going to bash everyone that thinks Daley was not up to it Smudger?

[First Wizard 0]

[quote user="1st Wazzock"]

[quote user="Lambo"]It''s not all doom and gloom people.[/quote]

Lose Saturday and I think it''s goodnight Vienna.

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And they call me mental![:S]

[Wembley_Canary 0]

[quote user="Lambo"]... Our starting 11 is more than a match for the good teams in this league and beleive me MK will be pushing for promotion this season.

Our first choice 11 dominated the opening half an hour.

We need to add some quality to our bench as we looked lost without Hughes and Lappin the midfield. Smith and Adeyemi arn''t the finished articles yet.

Even then they needed a dubious penalty and we had a stonewall pen not given.

Two soloutions are possibly already at the club, Hoolahan and Rusty though, wether Lambert will use them is another matter.

If Delia and Co back Lambert to bring in 3 or 4 players i think we''ve got a very good chance of a top 6 spot.

It''s not all doom and gloom people.[/quote]I agree, I''m quite pleased with the way our team is shaping up under Lambert, but there do however need to be tweaks to our squad to get the best out of our players, first of all Daley should be dropped, I have given him more than a chance to impress me but every time he fails with his lack of composure on the ball. For away games I think Russell should be brought into the centre of mid-field to give us a physical edge with Smith playing just behind the midfield 4. The Hoolahan issue also needs to be sorted out because it''s such a waste of talent to have him left out of the squad. But overall our squad is showing signs that it can compete for a top 6 finish in this league.

[B-ru 0]

No need to worry FW, it''s fickle opinions that will be calling for yet another maanger''s head if we get anything less than a win against a good Charlton side. Rome was never built in a day, and our re-building won''t be either. Just because Charlton are up there, some are envious and think NCFC should be up there. The state this club was in not long ago means there is no comparison I am afraid. We will get there, we have steadied the ship and looking to build on what we have.

[Wembley_Canary 0]

[quote user="B-ru"]No need to worry FW, it''s fickle opinions that will be calling for yet another maanger''s head if we get anything less than a win against a good Charlton side. Rome was never built in a day, and our re-building won''t be either. Just because Charlton are up there, some are envious and think NCFC should be up there. The state this club was in not long ago means there is no comparison I am afraid. We will get there, we have steadied the ship and looking to build on what we have.[/quote]I agree, the problem is your typical Pinkun poster has little to no patience what so ever and therefore jumps at the chance to bash Norwich City at every given opportunity. Fans just have to be patient with this new look City side under new management.

[B-ru 0]

Thank you WC ([:)]) With little or no money for transfers, little depth in quality (not numbers) within the squad, I would be very impressed if Wenger or Ferguson could to our lot into wold beaters in one month, time for some realistic perspective.

[kdncfc 0]

[quote user="B-ru"]No need to worry FW, it''s fickle opinions that will be calling for yet another maanger''s head if we get anything less than a win against a good Charlton side. Rome was never built in a day, and our re-building won''t be either. Just because Charlton are up there, some are envious and think NCFC should be up there. The state this club was in not long ago means there is no comparison I am afraid. We will get there, we have steadied the ship and looking to build on what we have.[/quote]

Charlton were in an even worse state than us last season if I remember rightly, I think they went something like 20 games without a win until they came here and beat us in that woeful FA cup match. As bad as we''ve been for the last few years even we haven''t managed to go that long without winning, maybe some of us are envious that Charlton are up there but we have every right to expect to also be up there with them.

Every year this club seems to sink further into the mire, we have already lost 3 games at the lowest level we''ve played at in 50 years against some poor teams and that is simply not good enough. Lambert is not a miracle worker and without money I can''t see how he will manage to inspire this shower to finish above midtable, and while auntie Delia remains at the helm we all know that the money required will not be forthcoming.

[Delia Out! 0]

[quote user="Lambo"]... Our starting 11 is more than a match for the good teams in this league and beleive me MK will be pushing for promotion this season. Our first choice 11 dominated the opening half an hour. We need to add some quality to our bench as we looked lost without Hughes and Lappin the midfield. Smith and Adeyemi arn''t the finished articles yet. Even then they needed a dubious penalty and we had a stonewall pen not given. Two soloutions are possibly already at the club, Hoolahan and Rusty though, wether Lambert will use them is another matter. If Delia and Co back Lambert to bring in 3 or 4 players i think we''ve got a very good chance of a top 6 spot. It''s not all doom and gloom people.[/quote]

I''m sorry but you are sadly deluded. Top 6 is beyond the capability of our squad. This is a season where survival & consolidation will be Lamberts aim.

[nutty nigel 7,902]

[quote user="Smudger"][quote user="Mello Yello"]

WE have no true quality.....Or that ''special player'' that makes you rise from your seat when he has the ball.....

The standard of football tonight was poor, MK were no great shakes and we were just out of it....No ideas, no gusto and lost without a leader.....Link up play was intermittent and passing was wayward more times than accurate. It was like the Walsall, but 3 goals scored.

Iwan was able to hold the ball and allow other players to play....Holty doesn''t do that.

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Agree Mello... Holt can''t hold the ball up, has no pace and can only finish if chance are created for him and he is teed up in space or from headers at set pieces etc... [Y]

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I don''t know if Holt can hold the ball up or not. Iwan couldn''t hold up a ball that he had to jump to reach![:S]

If we want Holt to hold the ball up then we have to play the ball into his feet or body and he has to contol the ball, hold off the defender and have the vision to bring wide players of midfielders into the game. Iwan was top at that.

The service we give Holt are balls for him to flick on presumably for Martin or Daley to chase down the channels. Failing that we hit balls into the corners for the three of them to chase. I don''t know if this is a tactic because Holt can''t hold the ball up. But what I do know is we didn''t keep the ball at all in the second half and the tactic didn''t work.

 

 

[Lambo 0]

"I''m sorry but you are sadly deluded. Top 6 is beyond the capability of our squad. This is a season where survival & consolidation will be Lamberts aim."

 

 

Once again... READ WHAT I SAID.

I said that our STARTING 11 was more than a match for the good teams in this league, as last night showed, it wasn''t until Hooze and Drury got injured that they came into the game.

I then said IF Delia bcks Lambert to bring in 4 or 5 players to provide a bit more quality to the squad rather than having to rely on youngsters then i think we can make the top 6.

[Yellow Submarine 0]

I believe that it''s down to Lambert''s discretion that we haven''t signed anyone on loan yet, for two reasons. Firstly I believe he wants to look at what he''s got at the moment and decide where we need strengthing, and who needs to go. Secondly, if we were to get any loan players in now we can only get them for 90 days. So by waiting a bit longer you''ll get those players to cover the busy christmas period where numbers are essential! Just a theory, could be wrong!

[Smudger 0]

[quote user="Wembley_Canary"][quote user="B-ru"]No need to worry FW, it''s fickle opinions that will be calling for yet another maanger''s head if we get anything less than a win against a good Charlton side. Rome was never built in a day, and our re-building won''t be either. Just because Charlton are up there, some are envious and think NCFC should be up there. The state this club was in not long ago means there is no comparison I am afraid. We will get there, we have steadied the ship and looking to build on what we have.[/quote]

I agree, the problem is your typical Pinkun poster has little to no patience what so ever and therefore jumps at the chance to bash Norwich City at every given opportunity. Fans just have to be patient with this new look City side under new management.
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Be patient?  What a couple of prize idiots!

We do not have time in our hands and will be in the hands of the offical receiver unless we gamble and make some signings NOW.

Is that what you want??? [:^)]

[Smudger 0]

[quote user="Yellow Submarine"]I believe that it''s down to Lambert''s discretion that we haven''t signed anyone on loan yet, for two reasons. Firstly I believe he wants to look at what he''s got at the moment and decide where we need strengthing, and who needs to go. Secondly, if we were to get any loan players in now we can only get them for 90 days. So by waiting a bit longer you''ll get those players to cover the busy christmas period where numbers are essential! Just a theory, could be wrong![/quote]

I can assure you that Lambert is well aware of what he has and well aware that we are going to fall pretty well short of achieving anything with going with what we have got.

We need signings NOW, Lambert is aware of this and it is pretty obvious to see that he has been told make do with what you have got! [:@]

[Smudger 0]

[quote user="kdncfc"]

[quote user="B-ru"]No need to worry FW, it''s fickle opinions that will be calling for yet another maanger''s head if we get anything less than a win against a good Charlton side. Rome was never built in a day, and our re-building won''t be either. Just because Charlton are up there, some are envious and think NCFC should be up there. The state this club was in not long ago means there is no comparison I am afraid. We will get there, we have steadied the ship and looking to build on what we have.[/quote]

Charlton were in an even worse state than us last season if I remember rightly, I think they went something like 20 games without a win until they came here and beat us in that woeful FA cup match. As bad as we''ve been for the last few years even we haven''t managed to go that long without winning, maybe some of us are envious that Charlton are up there but we have every right to expect to also be up there with them.

Every year this club seems to sink further into the mire, we have already lost 3 games at the lowest level we''ve played at in 50 years against some poor teams and that is simply not good enough. Lambert is not a miracle worker and without money I can''t see how he will manage to inspire this shower to finish above midtable, and while auntie Delia remains at the helm we all know that the money required will not be forthcoming.

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Very well said... 100% spot on!  [Y] [;)]

[B-ru 0]

I think that perhaps you are a little deluded Smudger.

If Delia has no more money to inject that I doubt that there will be signings. If there is, then it will be next month when they can be on loan for 3 months going through to January and then signed permanently.

We do need to either ship people out to raise funds or have a cash injection. Even if this is done, we will not win every single game. Even Arsenal drew a few when they went on their unbeaten run a few years back. To expect us to win every single game convincingly when we have three 17 year olds that have only played youth football and we aren''t clear what standard/level they should be playing at...

[Smudger 0]

[quote user="B-ru"]

I think that perhaps you are a little deluded Smudger.

If Delia has no more money to inject that I doubt that there will be signings. If there is, then it will be next month when they can be on loan for 3 months going through to January and then signed permanently.

We do need to either ship people out to raise funds or have a cash injection. Even if this is done, we will not win every single game. Even Arsenal drew a few when they went on their unbeaten run a few years back. To expect us to win every single game convincingly when we have three 17 year olds that have only played youth football and we aren''t clear what standard/level they should be playing at...

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Then if it boils down to that it would be a choice of whether you prefer to of had them in now, when they could of played in the following games... MK Dons (a), Charlton (h), Gillingham (a) - 26th Sept and Leyton Orient (h) - 29th Sept... and possibly Yeovil (a) on 12th Dec (if it Lambert and the board had played their cards correctly)

over...

Just the following 3 games... Huddersfield (h) - 19th Dec, Millwall (h)- 26th Dec and Walsall (a) - 28th Dec.

So yet again I REALLY CAN''T SEE your rather defensive POINT... having said that I will expect to see 4 x new loanees in for the home game against Bristol Rovers on Oct 3rd shall I???

 

 

[Eurrrrrrrrgh 0]

Smudger what you need is hug

Chill out its only bloody norwich city. Nobody died

xxxxx