Sullivan and Gold to buy city?

[William Darby 0]

Should you ban adverts for food in case the population become obese?

[blahblahblah 2]

[quote user="An idiot"]Should you ban adverts for food in case the population become obese?[/quote]Should we ban oxygen in houses that might contain idiots ?

[pete_norw 0]

[quote user="blahblahblah"][quote user="An idiot"]Should you ban adverts for food in case the population become obese?
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Should we ban oxygen in houses that might contain idiots ?
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We should also ban Beds being advertised as well then,  

[William Darby 0]

Ban the Jeremy Vyle Show as it encourages chav behaviour.

[shortfatb 0]

[quote user="Big Dog "][quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="Jim Smith"]

If they make us successful I could not give two hoots whether they have made their money from the adult entertainment industry. I believe 95% of our fans would say the same. If you would rather we were nice and pure but unsuccessful then thats your perogative but unfortunately with that attitude we are unlikley to get anywhere in football these days.

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I agree with Jim but I am not convinced they would make us successful. In the time they were at Birmingham they got them relegated a few times. Spent a season in the third division. Spent loads of dosh on concrete. Appointed plenty of crap managers. And had a spell in the Prem but never managed to get far above the trap door. This did not meet with their fans expectations.

It''s not about where their money came from it''s about the football decisions on how it''s spent. Appointing rubbish managers is just that whoever appoints them. And wasting the player budget won''t bring success whoevers money it is.

 

 

 

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That is a wind up right?

[/quote]Mine has batteries

[shortfatb 0]

[quote user="Bury Green"][quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="Jim Smith"]

If they make us successful I could not give two hoots whether they have made their money from the adult entertainment industry. I believe 95% of our fans would say the same. If you would rather we were nice and pure but unsuccessful then thats your perogative but unfortunately with that attitude we are unlikley to get anywhere in football these days.

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I agree with Jim but I am not convinced they would make us successful. In the time they were at Birmingham they got them relegated a few times. Spent a season in the third division. Spent loads of dosh on concrete. Appointed plenty of crap managers. And had a spell in the Prem but never managed to get far above the trap door. This did not meet with their fans expectations.

It''s not about where their money came from it''s about the football decisions on how it''s spent. Appointing rubbish managers is just that whoever appoints them. And wasting the player budget won''t bring success whoevers money it is.

 

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Well it certainly has a familiar ring to it, one promotion and two relegations in fourteen years and a host of failed managers, who could it be?

[/quote]Familiar ring, very good.

[Dean Coneys boots 1,398]

''If they choose it, they''re over 18, then there''d be bugger all you could do.  BTW should you ban all films that has fire arms in them in case you incite somebody to murder?''

Interesting point, I love violent Western media products but interestingly it has bred violence. Serial Killers as portrayed in Criminal Minds (a favourite) are pretty much unique to the Western world -and one could therefore argue influenced by its media. Might we not also consider those tragic cases where lunatics have wandered into schools on a killing spree. There is little doubt that violence in the media desensitisies us and encourages a wierd minority to offend. Seriously look at the tv tonight with a fresh canvas asking ''is what this portrays wholesome or twisted''....it is fascinating. And your point about choice is interesting. The number of porn stars who were sexually abused as children is HUGE, way, way more than in the normal world....make of that what you will.

[The Fish Seller 0]

[quote user="Camuldonum"]Now there''s a thought....ADULT Canary Call.[8-|][/quote]

Oh good shout Cam just imagine that!!

"Hulloo Neil is that yoooo its Barry here.Oi''ve got a bit orv a funny problem you see oim 47 years old and oive never had a girlfriend".

"Hallo Barry well to be quite honest everyone in the studio thinks thats funny too".

[Jerzy Krukowski 5]

[quote user="First Wizard"][quote user="WeAreYellows49"][quote user="First Wizard"][quote user="WeAreYellows49"]

 

It''s natural, it''s beautiful when in love, and there is northing wrong with porn, sex toys, sexy undewear or dirty magazines, it''s life, it happens, broaden your mind a little.

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I''m quite shocked mate.............delighted for you hubby..........but quite shocked![;)]

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lol why be shocked?  Everyone at one time or another has sex, why is it such a taboo subject I really don''t understand [;)]

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I''m not hung up about sex mate (unless I''m very lucky!) and the thought of crutchless knickers always make me sweat a bit, but you appear to be all sweet and pure.............mind you.............I approve![Y][;)]

[/quote]Christ, the thought the knickers with crutches makes me sweat more, tricky getting them on ....!

[7rew 0]

[quote user="Mr McNallys Alter Ego"]Ban the Jeremy Vyle Show as it encourages chav behaviour.[/quote]Well, you''ve convinced me over to the banning side!Pornstars? - GET THEM OUT!

[Bobzilla 132]

[quote user="Wes Hoolahans Middle Finger"]

Furthermore I seem to remember the two of them and Carston Jeung treated Steve Bruce rather badly when the first takeover was going through, basically totally undermining his leadership by saying that a new manager would be brought in before the deal had even gone through. Evenetually he got sick of it and upped sticks to Wigan.

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Wrong. The deal was that Yeung would be bringing in his own man. As a result, if Bruce got renewed on a big deal, Yeung would have to pay an awful lot in compensation to sack him, and the takeover would fall. Therefore, Brum couldn''t renew Bruce''s deal for acceptable terms (to Bruce) without scuppering the takeover. G&S were as frustrated about that as Bruce, IIRC.

[shefcanary 2,385]

''If they choose it, they''re over 18, then there''d be bugger all you could do.  BTW should you ban all films that has fire arms in them in case you incite somebody to murder?''

Interesting point, I love violent Western media products but interestingly it has bred violence. Serial Killers as portrayed in Criminal Minds (a favourite) are pretty much unique to the Western world -and one could therefore argue influenced by its media. Might we not also consider those tragic cases where lunatics have wandered into schools on a killing spree. There is little doubt that violence in the media desensitisies us and encourages a wierd minority to offend. Seriously look at the tv tonight with a fresh canvas asking ''is what this portrays wholesome or twisted''....it is fascinating. And your point about choice is interesting. The number of porn stars who were sexually abused as children is HUGE, way, way more than in the normal world....make of that what you will.

 

And after TV stopped showing football regularly in the 80''s hooliganism in football died down.  After yesterday, everybody who attends a football will start trying to kick sh*t out of the opposition''s fans. 

That''s an ironical statement by the way! 

Before TV, films, books, even chalking on cave walls was invented, human beings have always exploited through violence other human beings.  The extent of the depravitiy involved (be it of a sexual nature or just pure violence) was not dictated by what the people had experienced prior to it but through some horrible inner lust.  To say that Ted Bundy would never have done what he did if he had not been exposed to porn is completely unprovable.  He was exposed to porn, but it doesn''t mean he wouldn''t have done something similar if he had not have been, as this kind of thing has gone on throughout human history.  Say what you like, but the outlet that porn in all it''s modern manifestation gives people actually probably stops more acts of depravity than it causes.  I can''t prove it cos'' it''s here, same way as others can''t prove it cos'' you can''t unwrite history. 

So this chap who owns Man City.  He has made his money by exploiting people by selling property to them at a huge profit, because they have made huge amounts of moeny from working in the oil industry that churns out huge amounts of pollution that is slowly killing the planet.  Countries fight wars over the control of this black stuff and millions get killed (and raped and maimed etc) in the pursuit of this control.  Britain FFS made money out of the exploitation of african people who were regularly raped along the way.  I even deal with people who manage the great houses  that were built on the back of the slave trade. 

The list of such exploiitation and the money generated from it is endless.  Get over it.

Or read the Daily Sport, wince and laugh.

All waelth comes from exploitation of one fomr or another, and usually it is amoral.  Even BIll Gates tries everything in his power to stop his virtual monopoly being eroded.  How moral is that.

The guys have wealth, could potentially invest in the club and get us moving back up again.

Personally I think their orange sun tans are hilarious and for that reason alone wouldn''t want them near the club (so uncool) but to deny them the attmept because of how they have made their cash is so naive it''s laughable.

[CANARY CHARGE 0]

[quote user="Bobert"]

[quote user="Mr Rich"]Am I alone in being horrified at the idea of a pornographer taking over our beloved club? I''d struggle to pay money for a single match ticket, let alone a season ticket, to such dubious characters.Fortunately, as others have pointed out, this is mere speculation at the moment.Sure, Delia & Michael have made some strange decisions at times, but at least they are genuine supporters of City, unlike Gold and Sullivan.[/quote]

Well I am with you Mr Rich. One needs to have some standards in life.

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Whats the problem we have dildo''s  running the pitch now! I couldnt care less if he has made his money of fine women dirty mags!Look what good cooking and lets be havin ya gets you!!!

[Bobzilla 132]

[quote user="Dean Coneys boots"]

In relation to the link between porn and rape, perhaps you might explain why most criminologists and psychologists take that seriously.  It is not too say everyone who uses porn will rape, rather that it can trigger such behaviour in the vulnerable and dangerous. Famously Ted Bundy admitted that his desire had stemmed from heavy use of porn, which then moved onto images of pain etc.. You may think that is ''just sex'' - I think it different. [/quote]

Link does not mean causality. Its the same with drugs and mental health. Just because there is a correlation between the two, does not say which one causes the other. Perhaps sexual deviants have a severe liking for dodgy porn, or maybe, god forbid, nutters like drugs. Next you''ll be preaching about the remarkable link between illegal cruisers and modified cars...

[shefcanary 2,385]

[quote user="Bobzilla"][quote user="Dean Coneys boots"]

In relation to the link between porn and rape, perhaps you might explain why most criminologists and psychologists take that seriously.  It is not too say everyone who uses porn will rape, rather that it can trigger such behaviour in the vulnerable and dangerous. Famously Ted Bundy admitted that his desire had stemmed from heavy use of porn, which then moved onto images of pain etc.. You may think that is ''just sex'' - I think it different. [/quote]

Link does not mean causality. Its the same with drugs and mental health. Just because there is a correlation between the two, does not say which one causes the other. Perhaps sexual deviants have a severe liking for dodgy porn, or maybe, god forbid, nutters like drugs. Next you''ll be preaching about the remarkable link between illegal cruisers and modified cars...

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So much more succinctly put than my rant!  My hat off to you sir.

[William Darby 0]

''The number of porn stars

who were sexually abused as children is HUGE, way, way more than in the

normal world....make of that what you will.''That has been bandied around for years so much so, it started off with, ''The number of prostitutes......''  ''The number of strippers.......'' etc etc,  but personally I''ve never seen any evidence to back the facts up,  considering researching sexual abuse is one of the hardest things to do research in IMO.

[Bury Yellow 2]

Welcome those who discuss.

Beware those that preach.

..... and now a look at the weather

[Smudger 0]

[quote user="can u sit down please"]They have enquired before....[/quote]

Yes so it seems (nearly 2 years ago), yet Delia still led us to believe that nobody had shown an interest in buying the club.

Delia Smith shown up to be an utter liar once more, yet some claim that she is not the disease ruining our club... [:$]

[kevin brighton 0]

its just not going to happen!!!!

[nutty nigel 7,509]

[quote user="Smudger"]

Delia Smith shown up to be an utter liar once more, yet some claim that she is not the disease ruining our club... [:$]

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Smudger - if you really believe Delia Smith is a liar why don''t you do something about it. Whenever these accusations come out from behind the keyboard they get watered down to something like a vote of no confidence in the board. Or even disappear altogether.

 

[WeAreYellows49 0]

[quote user="Mr McNallys Alter Ego"][quote user="First Wizard"][quote user="WeAreYellows49"][quote user="First Wizard"][quote user="WeAreYellows49"]

 

It''s natural, it''s beautiful when in love, and there is northing wrong with porn, sex toys, sexy undewear or dirty magazines, it''s life, it happens, broaden your mind a little.

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I''m quite shocked mate.............delighted for you hubby..........but quite shocked![;)]

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lol why be shocked?  Everyone at one time or another has sex, why is it such a taboo subject I really don''t understand [;)]

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I''m not hung up about sex mate (unless I''m very lucky!) and the thought of crutchless knickers always make me sweat a bit, but you appear to be all sweet and pure.............mind you.............I approve![Y][;)]

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They''re sexy underwear for the disabled[:D]
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PMSL ok ya started me off giggling again now 

[WeAreYellows49 0]

[quote user="shortfatb"][quote user="Big Dog "][quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="Jim Smith"]

If they make us successful I could not give two hoots whether they have made their money from the adult entertainment industry. I believe 95% of our fans would say the same. If you would rather we were nice and pure but unsuccessful then thats your perogative but unfortunately with that attitude we are unlikley to get anywhere in football these days.

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I agree with Jim but I am not convinced they would make us successful. In the time they were at Birmingham they got them relegated a few times. Spent a season in the third division. Spent loads of dosh on concrete. Appointed plenty of crap managers. And had a spell in the Prem but never managed to get far above the trap door. This did not meet with their fans expectations.

It''s not about where their money came from it''s about the football decisions on how it''s spent. Appointing rubbish managers is just that whoever appoints them. And wasting the player budget won''t bring success whoevers money it is.

 

 

 

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That is a wind up right?

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Mine has batteries
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lmfao mine plugs into the mains

[WeAreYellows49 0]

[quote user="Dean Coneys boots"]

In relation to the link between porn and rape, perhaps you might explain why most criminologists and psychologists take that seriously.  It is not too say everyone who uses porn will rape, rather that it can trigger such behaviour in the vulnerable and dangerous. Famously Ted Bundy admitted that his desire had stemmed from heavy use of porn, which then moved onto images of pain etc.. You may think that is ''just sex'' - I think it different.

Yes sex is good, yes we all do it. But that hardly makes the porn industry ok....so tell me again. Would you want your daughter performing in movies with strangers for money- and if not why not? I am no prude I am just trying to point out that those uncomfortable with the past of the potential new owners should have a voice and not smply be mocked and told to grwo up.

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So we beg to differ, I still say that as long as what they do wouldn''t interfere with our club then sobeit.

If my daughter were 18 and over and she was using a reputable agency then what can any parent do?  You would do the right thing by offering her advice.  Sadly we all know the reality is that your kids will do what they want when they want with who they want, despite you as parents saying otherwise.

Take Katie Price for instance, she''s made millions upon millions out of the industry, she''s proud of it and so are her family. 

I take it you''ve never looked at a porn mag, or at page 3?

At the end of the day, each to their own, but I do think it''s rather wrong for people to intimate that because people enjoy porn, dirty mags etc they will have tendancies to rape etc.

It can happen, no one is saying it''s not, but it''s like saying just because I enjoy playing shooting games on my X-box once a week I will go out with a gun and kill someone.

[ref89 0]

Shefcanary has it spot on.  This screaming rabid anti-porn mob we have in Britain has a hangover from the days of churchgoing do gooders and Mary Whitehouse.  It sexual repression in this country and a fear of being open about it that has led to girls on crack on street corners and being murdered rather than in safe, licensed brothels.  It is why we have the highest teenage pregnancy rate in Europe.  It is why we are renowned as being so bloody uptight on the continent.Porn, hardcore porn far above what Gold was involved in, was available in the 60''s in Scandinavia.  Do they have above average rates of rape, pregnancy, prostitution etc?  No, quite the opposite in fact.

[William Darby 0]

[quote user="WeAreYellows49"][quote user="Dean Coneys boots"]

In relation to the link between porn and rape, perhaps you might explain why most criminologists and psychologists take that seriously.  It is not too say everyone who uses porn will rape, rather that it can trigger such behaviour in the vulnerable and dangerous. Famously Ted Bundy admitted that his desire had stemmed from heavy use of porn, which then moved onto images of pain etc.. You may think that is ''just sex'' - I think it different.

Yes sex is good, yes we all do it. But that hardly makes the porn industry ok....so tell me again. Would you want your daughter performing in movies with strangers for money- and if not why not? I am no prude I am just trying to point out that those uncomfortable with the past of the potential new owners should have a voice and not smply be mocked and told to grwo up.

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So we beg to differ, I still say that as long as what they do wouldn''t interfere with our club then sobeit.

If my daughter were 18 and over and she was using a reputable agency then what can any parent do?  You would do the right thing by offering her advice.  Sadly we all know the reality is that your kids will do what they want when they want with who they want, despite you as parents saying otherwise.

Take Katie Price for instance, she''s made millions upon millions out of the industry, she''s proud of it and so are her family. 

I take it you''ve never looked at a porn mag, or at page 3?

At the end of the day, each to their own, but I do think it''s rather wrong for people to intimate that because people enjoy porn, dirty mags etc they will have tendancies to rape etc.

It can happen, no one is saying it''s not, but it''s like saying just because I enjoy playing shooting games on my X-box once a week I will go out with a gun and kill someone.

[/quote]If we were all influenced by videos and games to go out and do XY and Z.  Why are the Nintendo DS cooking instruction games all in the bargain bin?

[kdncfc 0]

[quote user="kevin brighton"]its just not going to happen!!!![/quote]

And how do you know that?

[WeAreYellows49 0]

[quote user="Mr McNallys Alter Ego"][quote user="WeAreYellows49"][quote user="Dean Coneys boots"]

In relation to the link between porn and rape, perhaps you might explain why most criminologists and psychologists take that seriously.  It is not too say everyone who uses porn will rape, rather that it can trigger such behaviour in the vulnerable and dangerous. Famously Ted Bundy admitted that his desire had stemmed from heavy use of porn, which then moved onto images of pain etc.. You may think that is ''just sex'' - I think it different.

Yes sex is good, yes we all do it. But that hardly makes the porn industry ok....so tell me again. Would you want your daughter performing in movies with strangers for money- and if not why not? I am no prude I am just trying to point out that those uncomfortable with the past of the potential new owners should have a voice and not smply be mocked and told to grwo up.

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So we beg to differ, I still say that as long as what they do wouldn''t interfere with our club then sobeit.

If my daughter were 18 and over and she was using a reputable agency then what can any parent do?  You would do the right thing by offering her advice.  Sadly we all know the reality is that your kids will do what they want when they want with who they want, despite you as parents saying otherwise.

Take Katie Price for instance, she''s made millions upon millions out of the industry, she''s proud of it and so are her family. 

I take it you''ve never looked at a porn mag, or at page 3?

At the end of the day, each to their own, but I do think it''s rather wrong for people to intimate that because people enjoy porn, dirty mags etc they will have tendancies to rape etc.

It can happen, no one is saying it''s not, but it''s like saying just because I enjoy playing shooting games on my X-box once a week I will go out with a gun and kill someone.

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If we were all influenced by videos and games to go out and do XY and Z.  Why are the Nintendo DS cooking instruction games all in the bargain bin?
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Good question lol

[kdncfc 0]

Don''t give a damn how he made his money as long as it was legal which to my knowledge it was, this club is not going anywhere under Smith and Jones because even though we have new board members we still don''t have any money which is the root cause of our problems. If Gold and Sullivan are interested in buying our club it would be absolute madness to turn them down, Smith and Jones are way past their sell by date and we will struggle to progress with the limited funds we have avaliable as long as they hold the purse strings.

[lordyfan 0]

its strange that we have gone from a takeover by gold/sullivan to a moralistic point of view about imho where they got their cash.for what its worth. Heres my bit.1: i dont care less how folk make their money. If they wanna invest or buy our club, LET THEM2: i lived in a more liberal society than we have here [holland] for 5 years. There seemed to be no corrolation between porn and life. F**k me, i had to take copies of the daily star back for the locals.if david gold/sullivan want to buy us, then personally, i would welcome them with open arms and buy copies of asian babes as a show of support

[Ivan Easter 0]

I think Delia might sell, she must realise by now that for a football club to survive in this day and age it has to have the resources to buy players and survive. Unfortunately due to the big Premier sides paying ridiculous prices for players Football has now turned into a business, a sad time yes but a fact. If she does not sell then she is only thinking of herself not the club.Lets hope she does.