How long does Lambert have.....?

[BlyBlyBabes 0]

........ to start to get enough of his own players in place?

Does the transfer window close on 31 August for us Third Division clubs as well? About 10 days?

If so, is it not likely that he will have to mainly rely on the discredited loans route until the January window?

And by then .......?

I wonder if McNally will then have to get even more macho and brutal in January in the name of decisiveness - if he''s still around of course.

One love.

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[Lambo 0]

The window shuts 5pm on September 1st this year mate due to the august bank holiday.

[The Fish Seller 0]

If you ignore Worthys six years then statistically about 11 months.

[First Wizard 0]

Yes, but isn''t the loan market a little longer.

[BlyBlyBabes 0]

[quote user="Lambo"]The window shuts 5pm on September 1st this year mate due to the august bank holiday.[/quote]

OK thanks. That the answer to the first part.

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[Lambo 0]

[quote user="First Wizard"]Yes, but isn''t the loan market a little longer.[/quote]

Think the loan market shuts for a week after the intitial window then runs til about December i think, then re-opens in January.

Free agents (for those hoping for a Hucks return) are available at any time.

[Downloads 35]

I still don''t get it. I dont understand why he came here, unless someone is promising a few quid.

Prior to him coming here i think we were led to believe the warchest is empty? If it is, then he''s hoping to use the players we have (poor sod), if it''s not then who is puting up the cash? With the current state of the club, already being told debt is increasing this year to new levels, it won''t be Delia? I''m just completely puzzled.

If we don''t see anyone in within a week then i''m guessing he''s going with what we have and will utilise loans. Seems unfair to sack him at the end of this year as it won''t be his fault. People will forget Gunn/Butterworth gave away 8 points to our biggest 2 rivals before we even got going. 90 points should see you promoted and Charlton and Leeds are a tenth of the way there already. Poor Lambert, fancy people DEMANDING we get promoted via the play-offs, not really fair is it?

[Yorkshire Canary 118]

He has no time at all. Colchester clearly have some fine players that rolled us over but even if we had the cash which we dont then at the moment we are the last club in the world that they would sell to.No make the best of what we have is the most that we can expect then possibly a couple in January. By then hopeful;ly we will have stopped the free fall and be mid table to kick on in the future

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Yeah, would be happy with somehting like 7th at the moment and then if we don''t go into admin, Give Lambert another season with the chance to bring his own players in.

[First Wizard 0]

[quote user="Downloads"]

I still don''t get it. I dont understand why he came here, unless someone is promising a few quid.

Prior to him coming here i think we were led to believe the warchest is empty? If it is, then he''s hoping to use the players we have (poor sod), if it''s not then who is puting up the cash? With the current state of the club, already being told debt is increasing this year to new levels, it won''t be Delia? I''m just completely puzzled.

If we don''t see anyone in within a week then i''m guessing he''s going with what we have and will utilise loans. Seems unfair to sack him at the end of this year as it won''t be his fault. People will forget Gunn/Butterworth gave away 8 points to our biggest 2 rivals before we even got going. 90 points should see you promoted and Charlton and Leeds are a tenth of the way there already. Poor Lambert, fancy people DEMANDING we get promoted via the play-offs, not really fair is it?

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Downloads: Trust me, we have cash.

[Downloads 35]

I''ll trust anything at the moment mate to get a ray of positivity. Cash still in the war chest, random Chinese men dining with Delia, something needs to save us!

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[quote user="First Wizard"][quote user="Downloads"]

I still don''t get it. I dont understand why he came here, unless someone is promising a few quid.

Prior to him coming here i think we were led to believe the warchest is empty? If it is, then he''s hoping to use the players we have (poor sod), if it''s not then who is puting up the cash? With the current state of the club, already being told debt is increasing this year to new levels, it won''t be Delia? I''m just completely puzzled.

If we don''t see anyone in within a week then i''m guessing he''s going with what we have and will utilise loans. Seems unfair to sack him at the end of this year as it won''t be his fault. People will forget Gunn/Butterworth gave away 8 points to our biggest 2 rivals before we even got going. 90 points should see you promoted and Charlton and Leeds are a tenth of the way there already. Poor Lambert, fancy people DEMANDING we get promoted via the play-offs, not really fair is it?

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Downloads: Trust me, we have cash.

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[Paul Lamberts Disciple 0]

[quote user="First Wizard"]

Downloads: Trust me, we have cash.

[/quote]SOURCE FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111oneoneoneoneoneone

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[quote user="Downloads"]

I still don''t get it. I dont understand why he came here, unless someone is promising a few quid.

Prior to him coming here i think we were led to believe the warchest is empty? If it is, then he''s hoping to use the players we have (poor sod), if it''s not then who is puting up the cash? With the current state of the club, already being told debt is increasing this year to new levels, it won''t be Delia? I''m just completely puzzled.

If we don''t see anyone in within a week then i''m guessing he''s going with what we have and will utilise loans. Seems unfair to sack him at the end of this year as it won''t be his fault. People will forget Gunn/Butterworth gave away 8 points to our biggest 2 rivals before we even got going. 90 points should see you promoted and Charlton and Leeds are a tenth of the way there already. Poor Lambert, fancy people DEMANDING we get promoted via the play-offs, not really fair is it?

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I don''t understand it either, him coming here along with his backroom staff etc is going to cost our club a pretty penny in compensation, and I then heard on radio norwich that they are going to sue us (take us to court) for illegally tapping up Lambert as well.  Plus money for Gunny & whoever else is leaving.

Add to that the fact that the club have now hired in some security expert at CR.

We are already in debt £20million.

Worrying times indeed.

[Downloads 35]

Yup, none of it seems to add up.

I don''t believe we have serious investment coming in. But i wonder whether it''s more a last hurrah before the banks come calling.

[BlyBlyBabes 0]

[quote user="WeAreYellows49"][quote user="Downloads"]

I still don''t get it. I dont understand why he came here, unless someone is promising a few quid.

Prior to him coming here i think we were led to believe the warchest is empty? If it is, then he''s hoping to use the players we have (poor sod), if it''s not then who is puting up the cash? With the current state of the club, already being told debt is increasing this year to new levels, it won''t be Delia? I''m just completely puzzled.

If we don''t see anyone in within a week then i''m guessing he''s going with what we have and will utilise loans. Seems unfair to sack him at the end of this year as it won''t be his fault. People will forget Gunn/Butterworth gave away 8 points to our biggest 2 rivals before we even got going. 90 points should see you promoted and Charlton and Leeds are a tenth of the way there already. Poor Lambert, fancy people DEMANDING we get promoted via the play-offs, not really fair is it?

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I don''t understand it either, him coming here along with his backroom staff etc is going to cost our club a pretty penny in compensation, and I then heard on radio norwich that they are going to sue us (take us to court) for illegally tapping up Lambert as well.  Plus money for Gunny & whoever else is leaving.

Add to that the fact that the club have now hired in some security expert at CR.

We are already in debt £20million.

Worrying times indeed.

[/quote]

Security expert?

What''s that about?

I''ll hold fire for now pending further and better particulars, as they say........

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[Mtv 0]

Source? Source?  Bloody Wiz of course cant you read?

[First Wazzock 1,014]

He''s got until the next stuffing at home and then we''ll be after their manager !

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[quote user="Downloads"]

Yup, none of it seems to add up.

I don''t believe we have serious investment coming in. But i wonder whether it''s more a last hurrah before the banks come calling.

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That''s something that had crossed my mind I have to say, let''s face it the club has little money as far as I can tell.  Ok so Foulger had a little which he put towards the transfer fund, but the new directors have put nowt in, Smith & Jonest have not got much and that leaves who?  Who in their right mind would invest in a club that is dropping faster than a prostitues knickers?

Something don''t add up.

[WeAreYellows49 0]

[quote user="BlyBlyBabes"][quote user="WeAreYellows49"][quote user="Downloads"]

I still don''t get it. I dont understand why he came here, unless someone is promising a few quid.

Prior to him coming here i think we were led to believe the warchest is empty? If it is, then he''s hoping to use the players we have (poor sod), if it''s not then who is puting up the cash? With the current state of the club, already being told debt is increasing this year to new levels, it won''t be Delia? I''m just completely puzzled.

If we don''t see anyone in within a week then i''m guessing he''s going with what we have and will utilise loans. Seems unfair to sack him at the end of this year as it won''t be his fault. People will forget Gunn/Butterworth gave away 8 points to our biggest 2 rivals before we even got going. 90 points should see you promoted and Charlton and Leeds are a tenth of the way there already. Poor Lambert, fancy people DEMANDING we get promoted via the play-offs, not really fair is it?

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I don''t understand it either, him coming here along with his backroom staff etc is going to cost our club a pretty penny in compensation, and I then heard on radio norwich that they are going to sue us (take us to court) for illegally tapping up Lambert as well.  Plus money for Gunny & whoever else is leaving.

Add to that the fact that the club have now hired in some security expert at CR.

We are already in debt £20million.

Worrying times indeed.

[/quote]

Security expert?

What''s that about?

I''ll hold fire for now pending further and better particulars, as they say........

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 Pink-Un front page mate.

 

Norwich City bring in expert help as security review begins

Last updated: 19/08/2009 12:00:00

Norwich City have recruited Celtic''s former head of security to lead the investigation into an incident at Carrow Road on the opening day of the season involving two home supporters.

The pair ran almost half the length of the pitch and reached the area where Colchester manager Paul Lambert - yesterday unveiled as City''s new manager - was standing.

They appeared to be heading towards then City boss Bryan Gunn to express their anger soon after City had conceded the fourth goal in what turned out to be a 7-1 rout.

The men - Mark Warman, 43, and Daniel Warman, 18 - were charged with “pitch encroachment” but the police later confirmed they had each accepted a caution.

City''s chief executive, David McNally, is desperate to avoid a repeat of the incident and has already opened the inquiry.

“We started an independent inquiry yesterday,” he said. “Clearly it is an important matter. I have asked George Douglas, who is an independent expert, to chair that and George is working with the team here today and we won''t pre-judge any findings.

“George Douglas is ex-Strathclyde police, he worked for Celtic for many, many years, he was head of security and safety and on his CV he has probably got 150 Old Firm games under his belt so he understands how you need to look after spectators at football games.

“He has also worked for Uefa and Fifa, he''s a match delegate for the SPL, so he is steeped in football industry experience.

“You try taking the first team coach to Ibrox on an Old Firm day, it is almost a military operation so he understands that things have to be done properly and he will objectively review what happened on the day in question.”

McNally says he would not pre-judge the inquiry by announcing any sanctions on the two fans.

“Supporters can''t come on to the pitch, and it was most unfortunate. We understand how disappointing the game was for supporters, but they can''t come on to the pitch.”

[John 0]

I''m not confident in this appointment, and needless to say was very disappointed to hear of it.If results have not taken any significant change by January, and we don''t look within having a shot at the play-offs at least, i will be thoroughly convinced he''s not the right man for us, and will be against his continued role at the club.Feels silly when considering how volatile we seem to be when it comes to managerial appointments, but if he simply proves himself to of been the wrong man from the off by being incapable of doing the job he was entrusted with here (of which i do honestly feel will happen) then he has to go as soon as possible.

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I presume John, by this, you feel the players Gunn brought in can get us to the play-offs at least with a good manager?

I guess thats the first step in determining how Lambert should be judged.

[Badger 0]

He should get us promotion this year. If he fails he should be sacked.

[Downloads 35]

Was that a serious comment or a sarcastic one? (Message boards can be hard to read)

[John 0]

[quote user="Downloads"]

I presume John, by this, you feel the players Gunn brought in can get us to the play-offs at least with a good manager?

I guess thats the first step in determining how Lambert should be judged.

[/quote]I feel certain that most of them are capable of not only performing at this level, but competing comfortably in the Championship.And i also think you''d be surprised how far decent management can take a side of almost any standard in whatever league.I seem to remember an interview with the Exeter manager (his name escapes me) talking of how his side, in terms of talent, was most probably below par in the Blue Square Premier on the whole. But he said that what brought him success not only in that league, but in League Two, was primarily their work ethic and organisation.The management had them working as a team, and it has taken a fair few of average non-league players all the way up to the third tier of English football with 2 successive promotions.A lot depends on the players on face value in football, but i believe management teams more often than not control an understated value at football clubs on most occasions.

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My only problem is (especially with a comment like Badgers, though i don''t know if it''s serious), Leeds and Charlton need 90 points to get promoted for example and they have a good chunk of those already with only a few games gone, it just doesn''t seem to leave much room for error if he is to be deemed a success.

What if he gets us to the play-offs with Leeds and Charlton ahead of us, by 8 points still say, which could be possible and then loses in the play-offs which is a lottery. Would it be right to sack him then?

[William Darby 0]

A good 6 inches I reckon

[John 0]

[quote user="Downloads"]

My only problem is (especially with a comment like Badgers, though i don''t know if it''s serious), Leeds and Charlton need 90 points to get promoted for example and they have a good chunk of those already with only a few games gone, it just doesn''t seem to leave much room for error if he is to be deemed a success.

What if he gets us to the play-offs with Leeds and Charlton ahead of us, by 8 points still say, which could be possible and then loses in the play-offs which is a lottery. Would it be right to sack him then?

[/quote]Personally, i''d probably say no, providing we don''t implode at any stage (i.e, a ''blip'') prior to that, like what so often happened under Gunn and Grant.But if we''re seemingly without a shot of the play-offs by January he''s simply not doing the job entrusted to him to a decent standard, and he''d soon need to go.But if he were to fail late in the play-offs, his job would be very much within the balance, and if he didn''t get off to a good start in our second season after relegation from the Championship he''d be out soon enough, and i''d back it.The way i see it, if we''re competing for promotion he''s doing his job, and the more impressive the promotion challenge is taken upon, the better standard to which he is doing his job. If we''re not in contention, he''s not doing his job, and he goes.

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[quote user="WeAreYellows49"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"][quote user="WeAreYellows49"][quote user="Downloads"]

I still don''t get it. I dont understand why he came here, unless someone is promising a few quid.

Prior to him coming here i think we were led to believe the warchest is empty? If it is, then he''s hoping to use the players we have (poor sod), if it''s not then who is puting up the cash? With the current state of the club, already being told debt is increasing this year to new levels, it won''t be Delia? I''m just completely puzzled.

If we don''t see anyone in within a week then i''m guessing he''s going with what we have and will utilise loans. Seems unfair to sack him at the end of this year as it won''t be his fault. People will forget Gunn/Butterworth gave away 8 points to our biggest 2 rivals before we even got going. 90 points should see you promoted and Charlton and Leeds are a tenth of the way there already. Poor Lambert, fancy people DEMANDING we get promoted via the play-offs, not really fair is it?

[/quote]

I don''t understand it either, him coming here along with his backroom staff etc is going to cost our club a pretty penny in compensation, and I then heard on radio norwich that they are going to sue us (take us to court) for illegally tapping up Lambert as well.  Plus money for Gunny & whoever else is leaving.

Add to that the fact that the club have now hired in some security expert at CR.

We are already in debt £20million.

Worrying times indeed.

[/quote]

Security expert?

What''s that about?

I''ll hold fire for now pending further and better particulars, as they say........

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[/quote]

 Pink-Un front page mate.

 

Norwich City bring in expert help as security review begins

Last updated: 19/08/2009 12:00:00

Norwich City have recruited Celtic''s former head of security to lead the investigation into an incident at Carrow Road on the opening day of the season involving two home supporters.

The pair ran almost half the length of the pitch and reached the area where Colchester manager Paul Lambert - yesterday unveiled as City''s new manager - was standing.

They appeared to be heading towards then City boss Bryan Gunn to express their anger soon after City had conceded the fourth goal in what turned out to be a 7-1 rout.

The men - Mark Warman, 43, and Daniel Warman, 18 - were charged with “pitch encroachment” but the police later confirmed they had each accepted a caution.

City''s chief executive, David McNally, is desperate to avoid a repeat of the incident and has already opened the inquiry.

“We started an independent inquiry yesterday,” he said. “Clearly it is an important matter. I have asked George Douglas, who is an independent expert, to chair that and George is working with the team here today and we won''t pre-judge any findings.

“George Douglas is ex-Strathclyde police, he worked for Celtic for many, many years, he was head of security and safety and on his CV he has probably got 150 Old Firm games under his belt so he understands how you need to look after spectators at football games.

“He has also worked for Uefa and Fifa, he''s a match delegate for the SPL, so he is steeped in football industry experience.

“You try taking the first team coach to Ibrox on an Old Firm day, it is almost a military operation so he understands that things have to be done properly and he will objectively review what happened on the day in question.”

McNally says he would not pre-judge the inquiry by announcing any sanctions on the two fans.

“Supporters can''t come on to the pitch, and it was most unfortunate. We understand how disappointing the game was for supporters, but they can''t come on to the pitch.”

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So there are serious security issues at Carrow Road that warrant the employment of an ex Celtic security bod? You couldn''t make it up could you. Fifth Columnist anti-board brigade to be covertly monitored on football forums......

Here we go again, jobs for the boys.....I await Dave Carolan to return to the backroom staff.....etc, etc, etc.....

Ho hum. 

[BlyBlyBabes 0]

[quote user="Mr McNallys Alter Ego"]A good 6 inches I reckon
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Very average then.

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