B-ru 0 Posted August 21, 2009 looks like Gunn has set the wheels in motion over this one.. I hope Lambert decides to try and keep him.http://www.myswans.co.uk/news/Swans-target-Canaries-star/article-1272261-detail/article.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGoogler 604 Posted August 21, 2009 Mixed feelings. Hoolahan has talent in abundance but I think if his sale brings in funds for Lambert to bring in one or two of his own players then I think it''s a necessary sale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blahblahblah 2 Posted August 21, 2009 The headline of that article could also read "Swansea boss fails to grasp the motivation of the modern footballer". If they don''t pay the going rate, they could easily be in trouble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wizard 0 Posted August 21, 2009 Tin hat on...........I''m not bovvered!PS. Am I the only bloke who wants to fiddle wih Ms Tate? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blahblahblah 2 Posted August 21, 2009 [quote user="TheGoogler"]Mixed feelings. Hoolahan has talent in abundance but I think if his sale brings in funds for Lambert to bring in one or two of his own players then I think it''s a necessary sale.[/quote]Agreed Googler - to an extent, can the club afford a luxury / free role player at the moment, or do we need 6 grunts, 2 fast wingers, a target man grunt and a fast short bloke ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Flashheart 0 Posted August 21, 2009 There''s no point keeping hold of a player like Wes if the management aren''t going to utilise his talent by giving him the freedom of the pitch. He isn''t a winger FFS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Binky 0 Posted August 21, 2009 [quote user="Lord Flashheart"]There''s no point keeping hold of a player like Wes if the management aren''t going to utilise his talent by giving him the freedom of the pitch. He isn''t a winger. [/quote]Agreed. His position always seemed to be best behind the strikers, I also think this would not be happening if McNally wasn''t totally behind - maybe even instigating - it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wizard 0 Posted August 21, 2009 He doesn''t score enough goals, or make them for me.............take the money and run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bury Yellow 2 Posted August 21, 2009 Didn''t Lambert sign Hooly for Wycombe or am I dreaming and shall I get my hat? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby 0 Posted August 21, 2009 There is no way Hoolahan should be sold. Are we going to go down the same old route of selling all our best players? How do you mount a promotion challenge if you do that? I do not agree with people who say we need the money, what do we need it for? To buy a good player? Kind of defeats the object doesn''t it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Flashheart 0 Posted August 21, 2009 [quote user="Binky"][quote user="Lord Flashheart"]There''s no point keeping hold of a player like Wes if the management aren''t going to utilise his talent by giving him the freedom of the pitch. He isn''t a winger. [/quote]Agreed. His position always seemed to be best behind the strikers, I also think this would not be happening if McNally wasn''t totally behind - maybe even instigating - it.[/quote]It happens across the country: clubs get hold of a talented left sided player and just assume he would be best used as a winger. Thus, the managers can stick with their beloved 4-4-2 formation and still field the talented lefty. For a club in the position we''re in this approach is clearly ridiculous: Wes is a talented, creative player who could create a huge number of chances per game if he was allowed to roam free. Seeing him isolated on the left wing attempting to run inwards to his favoured position has been one of the most frustrating things about watching City in the last few seasons. I hope Lambert has the tactical common sense to change it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Flashheart 0 Posted August 21, 2009 [quote user="First Wizard"]He doesn''t score enough goals, or make them for me.............take the money and run.[/quote]He would if he was played in the correct position. [Y] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGoogler 604 Posted August 21, 2009 [quote user="Bury Yellow"]Didn''t Lambert sign Hooly for Wycombe or am I dreaming and shall I get my hat?[/quote]Nope. He signed him for Livingston. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Slob 0 Posted August 21, 2009 Swansea will be relegated this season anyway. If Norwich play the formation that they did against Wigan then i''m sure Hoolahan will shine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Flashheart 0 Posted August 21, 2009 [quote user="Big Bob"]Swansea will be relegated this season anyway. If Norwich play the formation that they did against Wigan then i''m sure Hoolahan will shine[/quote]Spot on. [Y] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCFC_Edward 0 Posted August 21, 2009 Hoolahan cant play on the wing, he drifts so far in and it seems always to leave our full back in a 2 on 1 situation. So if we are going to persistantly play him there, yes sell him, but if we''re going to play him in his best position, behind the fowards, then he must be kept. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Divs crew! 0 Posted August 21, 2009 there is no doubt in my mind that hoolahan must be kept. He is our best player and he really can create something out of nothing. e.g the amazing ball for whaley to score against wigan. Why do some of you see it fit to sell our best players. that whould be just conti uing down the same old norwich route. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blahblahblah 2 Posted August 21, 2009 [quote user="cosmos67"] Why do some of you see it fit to sell our best players.[/quote]If the best player doesn''t fit into the most effective team then they are better off elsewhere. Playing him on the wing leaves gaps, putting him in the hole behind the strikers also leaves gaps, with the other 3 midfielders having to cover the ground he leaves behind. Either way we are defensively weaker with him in the team, and to win this, or any other league you need to keep a lot of clean sheets.What kind of formation could we play to use him to his strengths ? And how many teams would suppress service to him in the hole behind the strikers too easily ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Excited Canary 19 Posted August 21, 2009 Lambert signed him for Livingston so I don''t think he will have any intentions of letting him go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Humphrey 13 Posted August 21, 2009 Has no-one noticed that there is no suggestion in the article that Hoolahan has had talks or anything with Swansea? No quotes suggesting it or anything. Could just as easily be someone dreaming it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blahblahblah 2 Posted August 21, 2009 [quote]Has no-one noticed that there is no suggestion in the article thatHoolahan has had talks or anything with Swansea? No quotes suggestingit or anything. Could just as easily be someone dreaming it up.[/quote]Errr...[quote]Norwich midfielder Hoolahan is understood to have visited the Liberty in the last week for talks over a move from Carrow Road.[/quote] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dion Dublin=Legend 0 Posted August 21, 2009 For mine and others'' recent blatherings on formations see http://www.pinkun.com/cs_pinkun/cs/forums/1813249/ShowPost.aspx . Lord Flasheart has it spot on or me: if we play Hoolahan in his best position he''s the best individual talent we have at the club, and Lambert should be seeking a formation that maximises his effectiveness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
William Darby 0 Posted August 21, 2009 Either way I think this one will boil down to cash offered. (if true) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Humphrey 13 Posted August 21, 2009 [quote user="blahblahblah"][quote]Has no-one noticed that there is no suggestion in the article that Hoolahan has had talks or anything with Swansea? No quotes suggesting it or anything. Could just as easily be someone dreaming it up.[/quote]Errr...[quote]Norwich midfielder Hoolahan is understood to have visited the Liberty in the last week for talks over a move from Carrow Road.[/quote][/quote]Exactly. He was ''understood'' to have visited. How did they come to understand it? Where did they get it from? Any quotes? Certainly nothing from the manager in that article even hinting towards it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Making Plans 957 Posted August 21, 2009 I reckon we need the money to pay for Gunn''s & Colchester''s compensation packages. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert Ketts Yellow Army 34 Posted August 21, 2009 [quote user="B-ru"]looks like Gunn has set the wheels in motion over this one.. I hope Lambert decides to try and keep him.http://www.myswans.co.uk/news/Swans-target-Canaries-star/article-1272261-detail/article.html[/quote]"Vultures are circling Carrow Road" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salopian 1 Posted August 21, 2009 If they sell him, it could be very short-sighted. IF by some miracle they achieve promotion, how many players would be left of championship standard - very few in the present squad. So if they were promoted, how would they assemble a squad?If, on the other hand, Wes wants off, for whatever reason, then let''s get whatever price we can get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canaries1985 0 Posted August 21, 2009 does this mean hoolahan will miss tomorrows match u rekon? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
William Darby 0 Posted August 21, 2009 [quote user="canaries1985"]does this mean hoolahan will miss tomorrows match u rekon?[/quote]If he''s missing it''ll be a massive clue I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bird Table 0 Posted August 21, 2009 Hoolahan has been cr*p from day one. All I ever see is a player who runs down blind-alleys, never passes to team mates in better positions and despite how skillfull were always being told he is, creates nothing. Get rid and get someone in who at least looks like they can be arsed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites