bristol_canary 0 Posted August 15, 2009 you sick b*****d Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shack Attack 0 Posted August 15, 2009 I laughed. That makes me a bad man doesn''t it [:$] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
O.T.B.C 0 Posted August 15, 2009 Would do a better job than most. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norma Stick 0 Posted August 15, 2009 mods remove this thread now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
O.T.B.C 0 Posted August 15, 2009 How about if you don''t like it, don''t look at it, let alone leave a message. There is a report button you know... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Bump 0 Posted August 15, 2009 Oh I get it you was suggesting him for manager.Very funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
William Darby 0 Posted August 15, 2009 According to Mick Dennis, if you buy into this ''wonderful old Bobby'' business, you are a hypocrite. His reasoning is, if he was the manger now, we''d be slagging him off left right and centre. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkchance1 0 Posted August 15, 2009 still better than gunn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jerzy Krukowski 5 Posted August 15, 2009 [quote user="Shack Attack"]I laughed. That makes me a bad man doesn''t it [:$][/quote]Very very bad, hope you''re truly sorry [;)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
O.T.B.C 0 Posted August 15, 2009 [quote user="Captain Obvious"]Wow, people take things too seriously. Anything is fair game in comedy I think; after all, it''s just a joke.*Prepares to be pelted with eggs*[/quote]You should see Frankie Boyle on MTW, his jokes, more so his Kerry Katona jokes are very close to the mark. Love it thou. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Obvious 1 Posted August 15, 2009 [quote user="Canaries in Bed"][quote user="Captain Obvious"]Wow, people take things too seriously. Anything is fair game in comedy I think; after all, it''s just a joke.*Prepares to be pelted with eggs*[/quote]You should see Frankie Boyle on MTW, his jokes, more so his Kerry Katona jokes are very close to the mark. Love it thou.[/quote]You should see the 2001 special of ''Brass Eye'', now that''s controversial. The most complained about programme ever broadcast on British television - pure genius though! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Horse 0 Posted August 15, 2009 [quote user="Captain Obvious"]Wow, people take things too seriously. Anything is fair game in comedy I think; after all, it''s just a joke.*Prepares to be pelted with eggs*[/quote]Agreed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert Ketts Yellow Army 15 Posted August 15, 2009 [quote user="BarclayChuck"][quote user="Captain Obvious"]Wow, people take things too seriously. Anything is fair game in comedy I think; after all, it''s just a joke.*Prepares to be pelted with eggs*[/quote] Agreed.[/quote] The world would be a very dull and mirthless place if we outlawed jokes that were in bad taste... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Flashheart 0 Posted August 15, 2009 Personally I think it''s a tad naive to assume that everybody shares your sense of humour. Believe it or not but not everybody finds death a comedy gold mine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
William Darby 0 Posted August 15, 2009 Highgate Cemetery is the dead centre of London. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I am a Banana 0 Posted August 15, 2009 [quote user="Shack Attack"]I laughed. That makes me a bad man doesn''t it [:$][/quote]erm...yeah! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert Ketts Yellow Army 15 Posted August 15, 2009 [quote user="Lord Flashheart"]Personally I think it''s a tad naive to assume that everybody shares your sense of humour. Believe it or not but not everybody finds death a comedy gold mine.[/quote]I don''t assume everyone shares my sense of humour... and you''ve never laughed at a tasteless joke?There''s a lot of sanctimony on this forum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Flashheart 0 Posted August 15, 2009 I''ve laughed at plenty of tasteless jokes, but when telling them I tread extremely carefully just incase somebody takes it the wrong way. This is hardly being sanctimonious, just sensitive to how others might take it. [:S] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
city-till-i-die 7 Posted August 15, 2009 [quote user="Henry"]C*unt[/quote]get a grip!!! it was a joke.. in bad taste yes...if you didnt like it..tough...dont read it!!!...the bloke is dead get over it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonnyboy 0 Posted August 15, 2009 Hmmm so many bad taste jokes that I shouldn''t post.......Arrrrgggghhhhh trying to stop my fingers typing......Michael Jackson jokes starting to spin around in my head!!But Bobby Robson jokes are a tad to far this soon after his death. RIP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Flashheart 0 Posted August 15, 2009 [quote user="city-till-i-die"][quote user="Henry"]C*unt[/quote]get a grip!!! it was a joke.. in bad taste yes...if you didnt like it..tough...dont read it!!!...the bloke is dead get over it[/quote]I find that the problem with the notion of what is ''offensive'' is that we tend toassume that there are clear guidelines for where the boundary betweenrisqué and offensive lies. That is, we assume that there is such aboundary, and that there are particular points, hard to define, wherewe would clearly be stepping over the mark. This is the point about the OP: the poster clearly went too far. At some point, he violated principles of decency, respect etc. It strikes me however that offense just isn''t like that. It''s fundamentally a matter of rapportand sympathetic engagement, and cannot be reduced to amatter of content. If there was some pre-existing rapport between the OP and members of this forum, members of this forum wouldn''t have been upset. They wouldn''t have regarded itas offensive. For example: If I get on with someone, and I know that they are disposed to takewhat I say in a sympathetic manner, I can get away with tasteless jokes. Ican say all sorts of outrageous things, because the person willunderstand where I''m being deliberately provocative, and where I''mbeing serious. If, by contrast, I know that I have no rapport with thatperson, I have to be extremely cautious in what I say. What would countas offensive in the two contexts is vastly different. Thus, something is only ''offensive'' if it is taken as offense. The idea that wecould specify a set of guidelines for acceptable comedy is justincorrect. It''s fundamentally a matter of rapport. If this rapport does not exist then it''s terribly risky to make tasteless jokes. [I] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert Ketts Yellow Army 15 Posted August 15, 2009 [quote user="Lord Flashheart"][quote user="city-till-i-die"][quote user="Henry"]C*unt[/quote]get a grip!!! it was a joke.. in bad taste yes...if you didnt like it..tough...dont read it!!!...the bloke is dead get over it[/quote]I find that the problem with the notion of what is ''offensive'' is that we tend to assume that there are clear guidelines for where the boundary between risqué and offensive lies. That is, we assume that there is such a boundary, and that there are particular points, hard to define, where we would clearly be stepping over the mark. This is the point about the OP: the poster clearly went too far. At some point, he violated principles of decency, respect etc. It strikes me however that offense just isn''t like that. It''s fundamentally a matter of rapport and sympathetic engagement, and cannot be reduced to a matter of content. If there was some pre-existing rapport between the OP and members of this forum, members of this forum wouldn''t have been upset. They wouldn''t have regarded it as offensive. For example: If I get on with someone, and I know that they are disposed to take what I say in a sympathetic manner, I can get away with tasteless jokes. I can say all sorts of outrageous things, because the person will understand where I''m being deliberately provocative, and where I''m being serious. If, by contrast, I know that I have no rapport with that person, I have to be extremely cautious in what I say. What would count as offensive in the two contexts is vastly different. Thus, something is only ''offensive'' if it is taken as offense. The idea that we could specify a set of guidelines for acceptable comedy is just incorrect. It''s fundamentally a matter of rapport. If this rapport does not exist then it''s terribly risky to make tasteless jokes. [I][/quote]Fair point, but when it comes to crass sexual innuendo, everyone, friends and strangers alike, knows where you stand... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
city-till-i-die 7 Posted August 15, 2009 [quote user="Lord Flashheart"][quote user="city-till-i-die"][quote user="Henry"]C*unt[/quote]get a grip!!! it was a joke.. in bad taste yes...if you didnt like it..tough...dont read it!!!...the bloke is dead get over it[/quote]I find that the problem with the notion of what is ''offensive'' is that we tend to assume that there are clear guidelines for where the boundary between risqué and offensive lies. That is, we assume that there is such a boundary, and that there are particular points, hard to define, where we would clearly be stepping over the mark. This is the point about the OP: the poster clearly went too far. At some point, he violated principles of decency, respect etc. It strikes me however that offense just isn''t like that. It''s fundamentally a matter of rapport and sympathetic engagement, and cannot be reduced to a matter of content. If there was some pre-existing rapport between the OP and members of this forum, members of this forum wouldn''t have been upset. They wouldn''t have regarded it as offensive. For example: If I get on with someone, and I know that they are disposed to take what I say in a sympathetic manner, I can get away with tasteless jokes. I can say all sorts of outrageous things, because the person will understand where I''m being deliberately provocative, and where I''m being serious. If, by contrast, I know that I have no rapport with that person, I have to be extremely cautious in what I say. What would count as offensive in the two contexts is vastly different. Thus, something is only ''offensive'' if it is taken as offense. The idea that we could specify a set of guidelines for acceptable comedy is just incorrect. It''s fundamentally a matter of rapport. If this rapport does not exist then it''s terribly risky to make tasteless jokes. [I][/quote]IT IS ONLY TASTELESS IN SOME PEOPLES EYES...NOT OTHERS...PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT BOUNDERIES...WHAT IS OFFESIVE TO SOME WONT BE TO OTHERS...AT THE END OF THE DAY IT WAS A JOKE....opps soz for shouting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Flashheart 0 Posted August 15, 2009 Again, it''s not simply a matter of content, it''s a matter of rapport as well. Sexual innuendo is funny when it comes from figures that you know aren''t supposed to be taken seriously (e.g. the great Lord Flashheart), but the context may change and it can become offensive. [Y]Just to point I''m not particularly offended by your ''joke'' about Sir Bobby, but I still think it was irresponsible. [8-|] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert Ketts Yellow Army 15 Posted August 15, 2009 [quote user="Lord Flashheart"]Again, it''s not simply a matter of content, it''s a matter of rapport as well. Sexual innuendo is funny when it comes from figures that you know aren''t supposed to be taken seriously (e.g. the great Lord Flashheart), but the context may change and it can become offensive. [Y]Just to point I''m not particularly offended by your ''joke'' about Sir Bobby, but I still think it was irresponsible. [8-|][/quote]Christ alive... you''ve got an answer for everything!In context, ie in the dramatised court of Queen Elizabeth I, Flashheart caused shock and offence, did he not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Flashheart 0 Posted August 15, 2009 [quote user="city-till-i-die"][quote user="Lord Flashheart"][quote user="city-till-i-die"][quote user="Henry"]C*unt[/quote]get a grip!!! it was a joke.. in bad taste yes...if you didnt like it..tough...dont read it!!!...the bloke is dead get over it[/quote]I find that the problem with the notion of what is ''offensive'' is that we tend to assume that there are clear guidelines for where the boundary between risqué and offensive lies. That is, we assume that there is such a boundary, and that there are particular points, hard to define, where we would clearly be stepping over the mark. This is the point about the OP: the poster clearly went too far. At some point, he violated principles of decency, respect etc. It strikes me however that offense just isn''t like that. It''s fundamentally a matter of rapport and sympathetic engagement, and cannot be reduced to a matter of content. If there was some pre-existing rapport between the OP and members of this forum, members of this forum wouldn''t have been upset. They wouldn''t have regarded it as offensive. For example: If I get on with someone, and I know that they are disposed to take what I say in a sympathetic manner, I can get away with tasteless jokes. I can say all sorts of outrageous things, because the person will understand where I''m being deliberately provocative, and where I''m being serious. If, by contrast, I know that I have no rapport with that person, I have to be extremely cautious in what I say. What would count as offensive in the two contexts is vastly different. Thus, something is only ''offensive'' if it is taken as offense. The idea that we could specify a set of guidelines for acceptable comedy is just incorrect. It''s fundamentally a matter of rapport. If this rapport does not exist then it''s terribly risky to make tasteless jokes. [I][/quote]IT IS ONLY TASTELESS IN SOME PEOPLES EYES...NOT OTHERS...PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT BOUNDERIES...WHAT IS OFFESIVE TO SOME WONT BE TO OTHERS...AT THE END OF THE DAY IT WAS A JOKE....opps soz for shouting[/quote]Like I said, I think it''s more to do with rapport and sympathetic engagement than so-called ''boundaries''. It strikes me that what counts as ''offensive'' is sensitive to context rather than content. For example: I often engage in some verbal jousting with Beauseant, calling him various names etc. He doesn''t find them offensive because he knows not to take me seriously. Now, if somebody else called him the same names (somebody with whom he does not share a pre-existing rapport with), he may take offense - after all, how does he know if this person is being serious or not? Thus, what is offensive seems to be far more dependant on context than content. I''m not convinced that ''boundaries'' are really what makes something offensive. [*-)]It''s too late for this. [:P] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert Ketts Yellow Army 15 Posted August 15, 2009 [quote user="Lord Flashheart"][quote user="city-till-i-die"][quote user="Lord Flashheart"][quote user="city-till-i-die"][quote user="Henry"]C*unt[/quote]get a grip!!! it was a joke.. in bad taste yes...if you didnt like it..tough...dont read it!!!...the bloke is dead get over it[/quote]I find that the problem with the notion of what is ''offensive'' is that we tend to assume that there are clear guidelines for where the boundary between risqué and offensive lies. That is, we assume that there is such a boundary, and that there are particular points, hard to define, where we would clearly be stepping over the mark. This is the point about the OP: the poster clearly went too far. At some point, he violated principles of decency, respect etc. It strikes me however that offense just isn''t like that. It''s fundamentally a matter of rapport and sympathetic engagement, and cannot be reduced to a matter of content. If there was some pre-existing rapport between the OP and members of this forum, members of this forum wouldn''t have been upset. They wouldn''t have regarded it as offensive. For example: If I get on with someone, and I know that they are disposed to take what I say in a sympathetic manner, I can get away with tasteless jokes. I can say all sorts of outrageous things, because the person will understand where I''m being deliberately provocative, and where I''m being serious. If, by contrast, I know that I have no rapport with that person, I have to be extremely cautious in what I say. What would count as offensive in the two contexts is vastly different. Thus, something is only ''offensive'' if it is taken as offense. The idea that we could specify a set of guidelines for acceptable comedy is just incorrect. It''s fundamentally a matter of rapport. If this rapport does not exist then it''s terribly risky to make tasteless jokes. [I][/quote]IT IS ONLY TASTELESS IN SOME PEOPLES EYES...NOT OTHERS...PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT BOUNDERIES...WHAT IS OFFESIVE TO SOME WONT BE TO OTHERS...AT THE END OF THE DAY IT WAS A JOKE....opps soz for shouting[/quote]Like I said, I think it''s more to do with rapport and sympathetic engagement than so-called ''boundaries''. It strikes me that what counts as ''offensive'' is sensitive to context rather than content. For example: I often engage in some verbal jousting with Beauseant, calling him various names etc. He doesn''t find them offensive because he knows not to take me seriously. Now, if somebody else called him the same names (somebody with whom he does not share a pre-existing rapport with), he may take offense - after all, how does he know if this person is being serious or not? Thus, what is offensive seems to be far more dependant on context than content. I''m not convinced that ''boundaries'' are really what makes something offensive. [*-)]It''s too late for this. [:P][/quote]Agreed: just killing time before Babel on 5 (another story of humans failing to understand each other!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
city-till-i-die 7 Posted August 15, 2009 [quote user="Lord Flashheart"][quote user="city-till-i-die"][quote user="Lord Flashheart"][quote user="city-till-i-die"][quote user="Henry"]C*unt[/quote]get a grip!!! it was a joke.. in bad taste yes...if you didnt like it..tough...dont read it!!!...the bloke is dead get over it[/quote]I find that the problem with the notion of what is ''offensive'' is that we tend to assume that there are clear guidelines for where the boundary between risqué and offensive lies. That is, we assume that there is such a boundary, and that there are particular points, hard to define, where we would clearly be stepping over the mark. This is the point about the OP: the poster clearly went too far. At some point, he violated principles of decency, respect etc. It strikes me however that offense just isn''t like that. It''s fundamentally a matter of rapport and sympathetic engagement, and cannot be reduced to a matter of content. If there was some pre-existing rapport between the OP and members of this forum, members of this forum wouldn''t have been upset. They wouldn''t have regarded it as offensive. For example: If I get on with someone, and I know that they are disposed to take what I say in a sympathetic manner, I can get away with tasteless jokes. I can say all sorts of outrageous things, because the person will understand where I''m being deliberately provocative, and where I''m being serious. If, by contrast, I know that I have no rapport with that person, I have to be extremely cautious in what I say. What would count as offensive in the two contexts is vastly different. Thus, something is only ''offensive'' if it is taken as offense. The idea that we could specify a set of guidelines for acceptable comedy is just incorrect. It''s fundamentally a matter of rapport. If this rapport does not exist then it''s terribly risky to make tasteless jokes. [I][/quote]IT IS ONLY TASTELESS IN SOME PEOPLES EYES...NOT OTHERS...PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT BOUNDERIES...WHAT IS OFFESIVE TO SOME WONT BE TO OTHERS...AT THE END OF THE DAY IT WAS A JOKE....opps soz for shouting[/quote]Like I said, I think it''s more to do with rapport and sympathetic engagement than so-called ''boundaries''. It strikes me that what counts as ''offensive'' is sensitive to context rather than content. For example: I often engage in some verbal jousting with Beauseant, calling him various names etc. He doesn''t find them offensive because he knows not to take me seriously. Now, if somebody else called him the same names (somebody with whom he does not share a pre-existing rapport with), he may take offense - after all, how does he know if this person is being serious or not? Thus, what is offensive seems to be far more dependant on context than content. I''m not convinced that ''boundaries'' are really what makes something offensive. [*-)]It''s too late for this. [:P][/quote]if you called me names..i would not find it offensive.if you ment it or not..because i really coulndt give a tosh...that is the difference...my bounderies maybe more relaxed..but i can see where you are coming from...people will always take things diferently weather it is ment in that context or not...you could say something so innocent but someone would take offence....thats life Share this post Link to post Share on other sites