Gary Doherty - the next to leave

[Flashman 0]

Gary Doherty failed miserably in his role as captain against Exeter. When Exeter made their two substitutions, he failed to take the lead in organising the defence to pick up the new players and one scored immediately. Any confidence quickly drained out of the team after that and we finished up hanging on.

Bryan Gunn demonstrated his lack of knowledge of the game by firstly appointing Doherty as captain and secondly by playing Nelson alongside him for the Colchester game. That is like having two Duncan Forbes at the back ot two Malky Mackays. It doesn''t work. Nelson should be a replacement for Doherty but unfortunately we are now wondering if Bryan Gunn has bought a dido.

I am not picking on Docherty indiscriminately as the decline of our great club has co-incided with his signing during the premier league season. At that time we were not sure if he was signed as a centre half or centre forwrad which just about sums it up! Also he gives away far to many free kicks around the penalty area.

The only time that we have looked strong in defence in recent seasons is when we had Taylor from Birmingham, i.e., a proper centre half. Gary Doherty gives his best, I agree, but his best is simply not good enough. This should be the first issue that needs to be sorted out.

[Mister Chops 7]

I disagree with this to an extent.  When Doc is playing alongside a quick CB, like Askou, he looks good.  It''s when he was paired with the lumbering Nelson that he is exposed.However, I do agree that Doc is *not* a natural captain or leader of men, and that we need to find, or bring in, someone who can get the players organised on the pitch.

[OTBC 0]

[quote user="Flashman"]Gary Doherty failed miserably in his role as captain against Exeter. When Exeter made their two substitutions, he failed to take the lead in organising the defence to pick up the new players and one scored immediately. Any confidence quickly drained out of the team after that and we finished up hanging on.

Bryan Gunn demonstrated his lack of knowledge of the game by firstly appointing Doherty as captain and secondly by playing Nelson alongside him for the Colchester game. That is like having two Duncan Forbes at the back ot two Malky Mackays. It doesn''t work. NelsoCn should be a replacement for Doherty but unfortunately we are now wondering if Bryan Gunn has bought a dido.

I am not picking on Docherty indiscriminately as the decline of our great club has co-incided with his signing during the premier league season. At that time we were not sure if he was signed as a centre half or centre forwrad which just about sums it up! Also he gives away far to many free kicks around the penalty area.

The only time that we have looked strong in defence in recent seasons is when we had Taylor from Birmingham, i.e., a proper centre half. Gary Doherty gives his best, I agree, but his best is simply not good enough. This should be the first issue that needs to be sorted out.[/quote]Completely agree with this. For me, I would play Spillane along side Askou who I was very impressed with. Spillane had a solid game but didn''t look like a right back to me. Not sure who plays at right back though, is semi up to it?

[norfolkchance1 0]

should be the first player the new manager ships out

[Northern Canary 0]

Since Malky left and Doherty came in we have got progressively worse and lower down the football league. Obviously hes not done that single handedly, but the defence has not been solid since we got promoted.

[GJP 79]

I don''t think the Doc is a particularly great captain but then I''m not going to hold that against him because it isn''t his fault he got given the armband and that we seemingly haven''t got a better choice as captain.

Good defender though.

[O.T.B.C 1]

Doc is perfectly capable of doing it, but he doesn''t install confidence in me and I suspect other fans and teamates alike.

I always feel that there is an almighty cockup coming soon.

[pak mei 0]

Doc can do a job at the back for us but is no captain,He''s one of the quietest spoken men you''ll ever meet

[GJP 79]

[quote user="Canaries in Bed"]

Doc is perfectly capable of doing it, but he doesn''t install confidence in me and I suspect other fans and teamates alike.

I always feel that there is an almighty cockup coming soon.

[/quote]

That comes from the crowd as much as anything.

It''s not as bad as it used to be but back a couple of seasons back if the Doc used to hang on to the ball while he weighed up the options there would be this nervous muttering come from the stands. But if he just booted it out quickly he''d have got booed for hoofing it. The guy didn''t stand a chance of doing the right thing.

People just make up there minds what they expect to see e.g. people describe Dejan as a "calming influence" but last season when he played there were times when Dejan was anything but a calming influence. There were times he was very sloppy and got us into a muddle.

The Doc has his faults but he''s the safest defender we''ve had on the books over recent seasons.

[Norma Stick 0]

Opened this thread in the hope that the OP had some sort of inside info and that D''oh erty really is leaving.

Ah well, thats another dream shattered.........

[Smudger 0]

Fingers crossed... if only he could take Delia & Michael with him... what a day that would be!

[matt crowhurst 0]

im not going to go into the whole argument again but if you look at the stats we conceded more when Taylor was here and doc was injured then when doc was playing

[Flashman 0]

Delighted that Paul Lambert listened to me!!  At last, a manager that has his eyes open.

[Matt Morriss 69]

Yeah im sure that Lambert was reading your post when thinking about picking his first back four. Look at me i delivered my football opinion and then it actually transpired in the professional game, arent i a football genius.A few weeks ago i posted my preferred back four, the strongest i thought we could field from the squad we have, and it was Semmy, Spillane, Askou and Drury. In the same post i also said that Theoklitosser should be bombed out of the squad.I did not shout about it once Lambert went for it however...

[Freeza 0]

[quote user="Flashman"]Gary Doherty failed miserably in his role as captain against Exeter. When Exeter made their two substitutions, he failed to take the lead in organising the defence to pick up the new players and one scored immediately. Any confidence quickly drained out of the team after that and we finished up hanging on.

Bryan Gunn demonstrated his lack of knowledge of the game by firstly appointing Doherty as captain and secondly by playing Nelson alongside him for the Colchester game. That is like having two Duncan Forbes at the back ot two Malky Mackays. It doesn''t work. Nelson should be a replacement for Doherty but unfortunately we are now wondering if Bryan Gunn has bought a dido.

I am not picking on Docherty indiscriminately as the decline of our great club has co-incided with his signing during the premier league season. At that time we were not sure if he was signed as a centre half or centre forwrad which just about sums it up! Also he gives away far to many free kicks around the penalty area.

The only time that we have looked strong in defence in recent seasons is when we had Taylor from Birmingham, i.e., a proper centre half. Gary Doherty gives his best, I agree, but his best is simply not good enough. This should be the first issue that needs to be sorted out.[/quote]It sounds harsh but I think you can honestly say that Gary Doherty is not a winner.

[Robert Ketts Yellow Army 35]

A dido or a dildo?

[Robert Ketts Yellow Army 35]

 

The second word referred to a marital aid

[(Northern) Irish Canary 48]

Is it exclusively for marital assistance??

[macdougalls perm 0]

[quote user="Barclayman"]Yeah im sure that Lambert was reading your post when thinking about picking his first back four. Look at me i delivered my football opinion and then it actually transpired in the professional game, arent i a football genius.

A few weeks ago i posted my preferred back four, the strongest i thought we could field from the squad we have, and it was Semmy, Spillane, Askou and Drury. In the same post i also said that Theoklitosser should be bombed out of the squad.

I did not shout about it once Lambert went for it however...
[/quote]

Yet you are now?! [:$]

[Jack Flash 17]

This is one of those discussions where opinions are divided and probably fixed - but it cannot be completely ignored that the two massive errors on Sat to concede two sloppy goals were committed by the Central Defenders, and like it or not, that is not good enough for better teams than Wycombe. Are they an improvement on Doc?  Too many headers were lost, so probably not.

[king canary 8,754]

The defence has long lacked leadership, let alone the whole team. Malky and Flem were leaders of the others around them, making sure there was organisation. Since then we have had Doherty and Shackell who both need to be led anbd both looked lots better next to Tiny.

[Nexus_Canary 1,206]

here here !Seems like Doc has nicely settled in though and was expecting to ride the gravy train like Gunn well into his 40''s at Carrow based on a string of poor apperances and the fact he works hard.Rot stopped the second Lambert benched the oaf.Cant wait to see Doc out of the club.