hogesar 10,707 Posted August 4, 2009 Uncle being a Leeds fan, i''ll quote what he said to me online:"Apparently So Grayson Was With Him @ Blackpool And Wants Him OnboardLol All Over Elland Road Yesterday M8 Apparently Hes The Man To ReplaceDelph"Lets be honest, it''s not like they couldn''t afford him. Thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scrimmage 0 Posted August 4, 2009 We would want at least 8 million for him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gingerpele 0 Posted August 4, 2009 Why would Hoolahan bother, the only reason for him to leave would be championship football, which Norwich and Leeds should be playing next season, he might not even want to go to a championship team, maybe only premiership, which i doubt will happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CDMullins 498 Posted August 4, 2009 Exciting times, i live near Elland Road, i dont mind driving to Norwich and taking him back to Leeds!Im not a fan, wouldnt be a massive loss.Cant see him been much of a replacment for Delph, hes certinally not a holding DM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Excited Canary 19 Posted August 4, 2009 Don''t sell him for whatever! Even if we get 8 Mil for him, we won''t find anyone for 8 million who would want to come and replace him. Also we wont have much time to find a good deal... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Excited Canary 19 Posted August 4, 2009 CDMullins, how can you think that, have you ever seen him play? Specially in League 1, if he goes to Leeds then him & Beckford as a partnership will get them the title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CDMullins 498 Posted August 4, 2009 I have had this debate on many threads on here! Im really not a fan, and yes i have seen him play.Ill pretend you didnt just say dont take £8,000,000 for him! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,578 Posted August 4, 2009 I agree that i don''t see why he would want to move to another League 1 club and one that on the face of it does not have a markedly better chance of promotion than us.The problem would presumably come if they out in a bid and we accept it which is why i was really nervous about that article yesterday. on the one hand it could have been Gunn being naive, if being cynical it was him drumming up interest and trying to inflate any price we could get for Hoolahan. if the latter then its a disgrace.Knowing Leeds have £8m in the bank from Delph if we accapt anything less than £3m for Hoolahan (who is a better player in my opinion) it will be a joke. Unless of course Neil Doomcaster, contract negotiator extraordinaire, agreed to a patheticly low release clause in Hooly''s contract! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,578 Posted August 4, 2009 [quote user="CDMullins"]Exciting times, i live near Elland Road, i dont mind driving to Norwich and taking him back to Leeds!Im not a fan, wouldnt be a massive loss.Cant see him been much of a replacment for Delph, hes certinally not a holding DM. [/quote] You clearly (i) have not seen any of our pre-season games (ii) did not see any of the games after gunn took over last season when Hoolahan played or (iii) know nothing about football. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CDMullins 498 Posted August 4, 2009 No, I have not been to Scotland, Didnt watch him against the pub teams, Nor did i watch him play against Manchester United U18''s.I dont understand the hype over him. Il re-say what i said in a previous thread, Wes is 27 and we are the biggest club he has played for.He doesnt make the ROI team, Doesnt score many, isnt that quick, is very one footed and light weight and is very incosistant.One poster actually called him ''World class and premiership standard'' if soWhy is he still at Norwich City playing third tier football? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tookie140 0 Posted August 4, 2009 [quote user="Jim Smith"]I agree that i don''t see why he would want to move to another League 1 club and one that on the face of it does not have a markedly better chance of promotion than us.The problem would presumably come if they out in a bid and we accept it which is why i was really nervous about that article yesterday. on the one hand it could have been Gunn being naive, if being cynical it was him drumming up interest and trying to inflate any price we could get for Hoolahan. if the latter then its a disgrace.Knowing Leeds have £8m in the bank from Delph if we accapt anything less than £3m for Hoolahan (who is a better player in my opinion) it will be a joke. Unless of course Neil Doomcaster, contract negotiator extraordinaire, agreed to a patheticly low release clause in Hooly''s contract![/quote] If neil doomcaster put a low release clause in hoolahan contract, then wouldn''t he be gone by now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 1,204 Posted August 4, 2009 [quote user="CDMullins"]No, I have not been to Scotland, Didnt watch him against the pub teams, Nor did i watch him play against Manchester United U18''s.I dont understand the hype over him. Il re-say what i said in a previous thread, Wes is 27 and we are the biggest club he has played for.He doesnt make the ROI team, Doesnt score many, isnt that quick, is very one footed and light weight and is very incosistant.One poster actually called him ''World class and premiership standard'' if soWhy is he still at Norwich City playing third tier football?[/quote]Oh, so you didn''t see the 40 yard first-time cross-field ball he played against Wigan? Still, it was only pre-season, we''ve got plenty of people in the squad who can do the same - the guy hasn''t got any class when it comes to real games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CDMullins 498 Posted August 4, 2009 [quote user="I.S."][quote user="CDMullins"]No, I have not been to Scotland, Didnt watch him against the pub teams, Nor did i watch him play against Manchester United U18''s.I dont understand the hype over him. Il re-say what i said in a previous thread, Wes is 27 and we are the biggest club he has played for.He doesnt make the ROI team, Doesnt score many, isnt that quick, is very one footed and light weight and is very incosistant.One poster actually called him ''World class and premiership standard'' if soWhy is he still at Norwich City playing third tier football?[/quote]Oh, so you didn''t see the 40 yard first-time cross-field ball he played against Wigan? Still, it was only pre-season, we''ve got plenty of people in the squad who can do the same - the guy hasn''t got any class when it comes to real games.[/quote] Sorry you seem to contradict yourself so many times in that post, I also detect sarcasm. Are you Pro or Anti Hoolopoo?I didnt realise 1 40 yard pass made you world class. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NottsCanary 0 Posted August 4, 2009 Fact of the matter is that we need to keep him, I wouldnt say that he is world class or even maybe prem standard! However, I think after seeing several games that he is one of our best players, or is our best player! Even if oyu didnt put it down to skill, he is one of the few players that constantly wants the ball, and works hard. I think we shouldnt even consider selling him! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian 1,204 Posted August 4, 2009 [quote user="CDMullins"][quote user="I.S."][quote user="CDMullins"]No, I have not been to Scotland, Didnt watch him against the pub teams, Nor did i watch him play against Manchester United U18''s.I dont understand the hype over him. Il re-say what i said in a previous thread, Wes is 27 and we are the biggest club he has played for.He doesnt make the ROI team, Doesnt score many, isnt that quick, is very one footed and light weight and is very incosistant.One poster actually called him ''World class and premiership standard'' if soWhy is he still at Norwich City playing third tier football?[/quote]Oh, so you didn''t see the 40 yard first-time cross-field ball he played against Wigan? Still, it was only pre-season, we''ve got plenty of people in the squad who can do the same - the guy hasn''t got any class when it comes to real games.[/quote] Sorry you seem to contradict yourself so many times in that post, I also detect sarcasm. Are you Pro or Anti Hoolopoo?I didnt realise 1 40 yard pass made you world class.[/quote]Yep, sorry it was a little bit sarcastic. Point being, he absolutely ran the show against Wigan, and now he''s being utilised in his favoured position he looks like he will be able to destroy teams almost single handedly. Again, only pre-season but I certainly would not want him to go before he''s shown what he can do in league matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InLambertWeTrust! 0 Posted August 4, 2009 Ken Bates has been quoted as saying (on the leeds united official website): "He does have someone he is close to bringing in and as soon as he does we will announce it."He= Simon Grayson. I really really hope it aint Hoolahan hes referring to.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocky Rocastle 0 Posted August 4, 2009 Bottom line he is worth more to us in the side than if we sell him. We wouldn''t get more than £500,000 for himHe''s really not proven himself at a higher level so how can he be worth £3millon!He owe''s us after an injury riddled first season and I admire his commitment thus far. If he was so into Grayson he wouldn''t have left Blackppol! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wizard 0 Posted August 4, 2009 To sell to our main rivals would be crass stupidity! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoots 0 Posted August 4, 2009 [quote user="NottsCanary"]Fact of the matter is that we need to keep him, I wouldnt say that he is world class or even maybe prem standard! However, I think after seeing several games that he is one of our best players, or is our best player! Even if oyu didnt put it down to skill, he is one of the few players that constantly wants the ball, and works hard. I think we shouldnt even consider selling him![/quote] Yes, but not at any cost. Leeds are a much bigger club than Norwich and must be firmer favourites than us for auto promotion so there will clearly be an attraction for Hoolahan and, of course, he isn''t getting any younger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canaryfan 0 Posted August 4, 2009 Why would we want to sell him to one of our rivals for promotion? He wont be going up a division by joining Leeds like Marshall and Croft did when they joined Cardiff and Derby, and he said a few weeks back he wanted to stay at Norwich. He would be betraying the fans if he went back on his word and left Norwich to join Leeds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoots 0 Posted August 4, 2009 [quote user="canaryfan"]Why would we want to sell him to one of our rivals for promotion? He wont be going up a division by joining Leeds like Marshall and Croft did when they joined Cardiff and Derby, and he said a few weeks back he wanted to stay at Norwich. He would be betraying the fans if he went back on his word and left Norwich to join Leeds.[/quote]I''m guessing that he only said that he wanted to stay at Norwich because nobody had come in for him at that time like a few others I can think of over the years. He''s 27 ( I think) and not one of the biggest earners. Not many years left playing football. Therefore, he must be looking to exploit his worth to the maximum in order to build as big a financial cushion for the future as he can. Loyalty to the fans doesn''t come into the equation. If he stays at Norwich out of loyalty will you pay his pension ? Of course not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,578 Posted August 4, 2009 [quote user="Bob Franklin"][quote user="NottsCanary"]Fact of the matter is that we need to keep him, I wouldnt say that he is world class or even maybe prem standard! However, I think after seeing several games that he is one of our best players, or is our best player! Even if oyu didnt put it down to skill, he is one of the few players that constantly wants the ball, and works hard. I think we shouldnt even consider selling him![/quote] Yes, but not at any cost. Leeds are a much bigger club than Norwich and must be firmer favourites than us for auto promotion so there will clearly be an attraction for Hoolahan and, of course, he isn''t getting any younger.[/quote] Leeds are not that much bigger than us these days and IMHO are not that great a bet for promotion having seen them play a few times last season. yes they are one of the favourites but have no better chance than us. If we were to accept an offer it will need to be a very big one! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
macdougalls perm 0 Posted August 4, 2009 Well there is the point that I think his wife is from Suffolk and wants to keep living in the area. Not cast iron I admit but might be a factor in him wanting to stay here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tribes 0 Posted August 4, 2009 [quote user="canaryfan"]Why would we want to sell him to one of our rivals for promotion? He wont be going up a division by joining Leeds like Marshall and Croft did when they joined Cardiff and Derby, and he said a few weeks back he wanted to stay at Norwich. He would be betraying the fans if he went back on his word and left Norwich to join Leeds.[/quote]Players often say what is the most sensible at the time, he wouldn''t say he didn''t want to stay in case he had no choice and had to stay. I will be surprised if he is here at the start of the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoots 0 Posted August 4, 2009 [quote user="Jim Smith"][quote user="Bob Franklin"] [quote user="NottsCanary"]Fact of the matter is that we need to keep him, I wouldnt say that he is world class or even maybe prem standard! However, I think after seeing several games that he is one of our best players, or is our best player! Even if oyu didnt put it down to skill, he is one of the few players that constantly wants the ball, and works hard. I think we shouldnt even consider selling him![/quote] Yes, but not at any cost. Leeds are a much bigger club than Norwich and must be firmer favourites than us for auto promotion so there will clearly be an attraction for Hoolahan and, of course, he isn''t getting any younger.[/quote] Leeds are not that much bigger than us these days and IMHO are not that great a bet for promotion having seen them play a few times last season. yes they are one of the favourites but have no better chance than us. If we were to accept an offer it will need to be a very big one![/quote]I agree that Leeds have been langushing in the lower divisions for a few seasons now but there is no disputing their pedigree, the huge size of their fan base and their potential. IMO Leeds are a much bigger club than Norwich from whatever pespective you look from. That''s not to belittle Norwich, I just think that it''s fact. If Norwich fail to gain promotion this season I guess that attendances here will plummet. If you like that will be the true perspective. In any case, Hoolahan has got to secure his future so if Leeds offer him a much better financial deal than we are able to then the writing will be on the wall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGoogler 604 Posted August 4, 2009 I''d slap a £3mil price tag and not let him go for a penny less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoots 0 Posted August 4, 2009 [quote user="TheGoogler"]I''d slap a £3mil price tag and not let him go for a penny less.[/quote] Way to go ! I''m guessing he''ll be on his way if we are offered £750K. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
......and Smith must score. 1,586 Posted August 4, 2009 [quote user="canaryfan"]Why would we want to sell him to one of our rivals for promotion? He wont be going up a division by joining Leeds like Marshall and Croft did when they joined Cardiff and Derby, and he said a few weeks back he wanted to stay at Norwich. He would be betraying the fans if he went back on his word and left Norwich to join Leeds.[/quote]When have footballers ever let that bother them ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
city-till-i-die 7 Posted August 4, 2009 £8 million and he is theirs [Y] but i fear he has a release clause of £1.20p and a packet of crisps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norfolkchance1 0 Posted August 4, 2009 [quote user="Bob Franklin"][quote user="TheGoogler"]I''d slap a £3mil price tag and not let him go for a penny less.[/quote] Way to go ! I''m guessing he''ll be on his way if we are offered £750K. [/quote]about 500k - 750k and he''s gone, remember evrey was saying we were gonna get £3 mill for clingan about a month ago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites