The men who ran on the pitch.

[Canary Pirate 0]

[quote user="Shyster"]To be honest, if I had my way I''d nuke the whole of the middle-east.
[/quote]

Very reassuring to know that extreme lunatics still live on the planet !

[Smudger 0]

[quote user="Canaries in Bed"][quote user="Smudger"]

[quote user="Canaries in Bed"]Violence does not have to be physical, even the basic common assault is not actually an assault per se. They acted in a threatening manner and had to be restrained by stewards, you don''t know what they would have done if the stewards and others had not stopped them, I don''t and I''m sure Gunn and Co were in fear for their safety.[/quote]

No I don''t know what they would of done.  Thrown their season tickets at Mr Gunn no doubt.  Oh wait a min, didn''t they do that anyway???

They had to be restrained by stewards?  Isn''t that part and parcel of a Stewards job?  It is like saying that somebody is commiting a criminal offence when being asked to leave a nightclub and escorted away by a bouncer.  Were they violent towards the said stewards?  If they had of wanted to show violence towards anybody then you would of seen a lot more of a scuffle than what actually occured I can assure you.

I acted in a threatening manner on our open day then when I expressed an opinion to Mr Gunn and was threatened of being thrown out by several stewards I suppose? 

My response to the stewards was" if you want to cause a scene then that is your choice, but I have not broken any laws and I will not be going quietly."

[/quote]

But you did break the law. I suggest you have a wee peak at some of the offences out there.

[/quote]

Oh and what law did I break?

Oh silly me I gave a critical opinion on Mr Gunn, saying that he had already failed as manager of NCFC and did not deserve the chance to balls things up even further.  [:$]

[William Darby 0]

[quote user="Smudger"][quote user="Canaries in Bed"][quote user="Smudger"]

[quote user="Canaries in Bed"]Violence does not have to be physical, even the basic common assault is not actually an assault per se. They acted in a threatening manner and had to be restrained by stewards, you don''t know what they would have done if the stewards and others had not stopped them, I don''t and I''m sure Gunn and Co were in fear for their safety.[/quote]

No I don''t know what they would of done.  Thrown their season tickets at Mr Gunn no doubt.  Oh wait a min, didn''t they do that anyway???

They had to be restrained by stewards?  Isn''t that part and parcel of a Stewards job?  It is like saying that somebody is commiting a criminal offence when being asked to leave a nightclub and escorted away by a bouncer.  Were they violent towards the said stewards?  If they had of wanted to show violence towards anybody then you would of seen a lot more of a scuffle than what actually occured I can assure you.

I acted in a threatening manner on our open day then when I expressed an opinion to Mr Gunn and was threatened of being thrown out by several stewards I suppose? 

My response to the stewards was" if you want to cause a scene then that is your choice, but I have not broken any laws and I will not be going quietly."

[/quote]

But you did break the law. I suggest you have a wee peak at some of the offences out there.

[/quote]

Oh and what law did I break?

Oh silly me I gave a critical opinion on Mr Gunn, saying that he had already failed as manager of NCFC and did not deserve the chance to balls things up even further.  [:$]

[/quote]Cival liberties are getting eroded,  you can''t say boo to a goose without some modern BS law saying you''ve done wrong.

[O.T.B.C 0]

You didn''t say that you gave Gunn a critical opinion, you said that you acted in a threatening manner. Thats a bit different.

[The Fish Seller 0]

[quote user="Totally Mad"][quote user="Smudger"][quote user="Canaries in Bed"][quote user="Smudger"]

[quote user="Canaries in Bed"]Violence does not have to be physical, even the basic common assault is not actually an assault per se. They acted in a threatening manner and had to be restrained by stewards, you don''t know what they would have done if the stewards and others had not stopped them, I don''t and I''m sure Gunn and Co were in fear for their safety.[/quote]

No I don''t know what they would of done.  Thrown their season tickets at Mr Gunn no doubt.  Oh wait a min, didn''t they do that anyway???

They had to be restrained by stewards?  Isn''t that part and parcel of a Stewards job?  It is like saying that somebody is commiting a criminal offence when being asked to leave a nightclub and escorted away by a bouncer.  Were they violent towards the said stewards?  If they had of wanted to show violence towards anybody then you would of seen a lot more of a scuffle than what actually occured I can assure you.

I acted in a threatening manner on our open day then when I expressed an opinion to Mr Gunn and was threatened of being thrown out by several stewards I suppose? 

My response to the stewards was" if you want to cause a scene then that is your choice, but I have not broken any laws and I will not be going quietly."

[/quote]

But you did break the law. I suggest you have a wee peak at some of the offences out there.

[/quote]

Oh and what law did I break?

Oh silly me I gave a critical opinion on Mr Gunn, saying that he had already failed as manager of NCFC and did not deserve the chance to balls things up even further.  [:$]

[/quote]Cival liberties are getting eroded,  you can''t say boo to a goose without some modern BS law saying you''ve done wrong. [/quote]Not half!! Here''s a list of offences which can lead to a ban from football grounds. [:O]

Definition - Relevant Offences

A relevant offence is

an offence to

which Schedule 1 of the Football Spectators Act 1989 (FSA)

applies (section 14(8), FSA).

Schedule 1 FSA

1. This

schedule applies to the following offences.

(a)  any

offence under section 2(1), 5(7), 14J(1) or 21C(2) of this Act,

(b)  any

offence under section 2 or 2A of the Sporting Events (Control of

Alcohol etc.) Act 1985 (alcohol, containers and fireworks)

committed by the accused at any football match to which this

Schedule applies or while entering or trying to enter the

ground,

(c)  any

offence under section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986

(harassment, alarm or distress) or any provision of Part III of

that Act (racial hatred) committed during a period relevant to a

football match to which this Schedule applies at any premises

while the accused was at, or was entering or leaving or trying

to enter or leave, the premises,

R v Matthew O’Keefe [2004] 1

Cr App R (S) 67 The schedule does not make specific

reference to offences under section 4 of the Public Order Act

1986. However, it was held that the phrase, “any offence

involving the use or threat of violence by the accused towards

another person” was wide enough to catch any offence of

threatening behaviour under section 4. See further below the

proposed changes contained in the Violent Crime Reduction Bill.

(d)  any

offence involving the use or threat of violence by the accused

towards another person committed during a period relevant to a

football match to which this Schedule applies at any premises

while the accused was at, or was entering or leaving or trying

to enter or leave, the premises,

(e)  any

offence involving the use or threat of violence towards property

committed during a period relevant to a football match to which

this Schedule applies at any premises while the accused was at,

or was entering or leaving or trying to enter or leave, the

premises,

(f)  any

offence involving the use, carrying or possession of an

offensive weapon or a firearm committed during a period relevant

to a football match to which this Schedule applies at any

premises while the accused was at, or was entering or leaving or

trying to enter or leave, the premises,

(g)  any

offence under section 12 of the Licensing Act 1872 (persons

found drunk in public places, etc.) of being found drunk in a

highway or other public place committed while the accused was on

a journey to or from a football match to which this Schedule

applies being an offence as respects which the court makes a

declaration that the offence related to football matches,

By section 7(10)(a) FSA

“declaration of relevance” means a declaration by the court that

the offence related to football matches.

(h)  any

offence under section 91(1) of the Criminal Justice Act 1967

(disorderly behaviour while drunk in a public place) committed

in a highway or other public place while the accused was on a

journey to or from a football match to which this Schedule

applies being an offence as respects which the court makes a

declaration that the offence related to football matches,

(j)  any

offence under section 1 of the Sporting Events (Control of

Alcohol etc.) Act 1985 (alcohol on coaches or trains to or from

sporting events) committed while the accused was on a journey to

or from a football match to which this Schedule applies being an

offence as respects which the court makes a declaration that the

offence related to football matches,

(k)  any

offence under section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986

(harassment, alarm or distress) or any provision of Part III of

that Act (racial hatred) committed while the accused was on a

journey to or from a football match to which this Schedule

applies being an offence as respects which the court makes a

declaration that the offence related to football matches,

(l)  any

offence under section 4 or 5 of the Road Traffic Act 1988

(driving etc. when under the influence of drink or drugs or with

an alcohol concentration above the prescribed limit) committed

while the accused was on a journey to or from a football match

to which this Schedule applies being an offence as respects

which the court makes a declaration that the offence related to

football matches,

(m)  any

offence involving the use or threat of violence by the accused

towards another person committed while one or each of them was

on a journey to or from a football match to which this Schedule

applies being an offence as respects which the court makes a

declaration that the offence related to football matches,

(n)  any

offence involving the use or threat of violence towards property

committed while the accused was on a journey to or from a

football match to which this Schedule applies being an offence

as respects which the court makes a declaration that the offence

related to football matches,

(o)  any

offence involving the use, carrying or possession of an

offensive weapon or a firearm committed while the accused was on

a journey to or from a football match to which this Schedule

applies being an offence as respects which the court makes a

declaration that the offence related to football matches,

(p)  any

offence under the Football (Offences) Act 1991,

(q)  any

offence under section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986

(harassment, alarm or distress) or any provision of Part III of

that Act (racial hatred) -

(i)  which

does not fall within paragraph (c) or (k) above,

(ii)  which

was committed during a period relevant to a football match to

which this Schedule applies, and

(iii)  as

respects which the court makes a declaration that the offence

related to that match or to that match and any other football

match which took place during that period,

(r)  any

offence involving the use or threat of violence by the accused

towards another person -

(i)  which

does not fall within paragraph (d) or (m) above,

(ii)  which

was committed during a period relevant to a football match to

which this Schedule applies, and

(iii)  as

respects which the court makes a declaration that the offence

related to that match or to that match and any other football

match which took place during that period,

(s)  any

offence involving the use or threat of violence towards property

-

(i)  which

does not fall within paragraph (e) or (n) above,

(ii)  which

was committed during a period relevant to a football match to

which this Schedule applies, and

(iii)  as

respects which the court makes a declaration that the offence

related to that match or to that match and any other football

match which took place during that period,

(t)  any

offence involving the use, carrying or possession of an

offensive weapon or a firearm -

(i)  which

does not fall within paragraph (f) or (o) above,

(ii)  which

was committed during a period relevant to a football match to

which this Schedule applies, and

(iii)  as

respects which the court makes a declaration that the offence

related to that match or to that match and any other football

match which took place during that period,

(u)  any

offence under section 166 of the Criminal Justice and Public

Order Act 1994 (sale of tickets by unauthorised persons) which

relates to tickets for a football match.

2.  Any

reference to an offence in paragraph 1 above includes -

(a)  a

reference to any attempt, conspiracy or incitement to commit

that offence, and

(b)  a

reference to aiding and abetting, counselling or procuring the

commission of that offence.

3.  For the

purposes of paragraphs 1(g) to (o) above -

(a)  a person

may be regarded as having been on a journey to or from a

football match to which this Schedule applies whether or not he

attended or intended to attend the match, and

(b)  a

person''s journey includes breaks (including overnight breaks).

4.  In this

Schedule, "football match" means a match which is a regulated

football match for the purposes of Part II of this Act.

(2)  Section

1(8) and (8A) above apply for the interpretation of references

to periods relevant to football matches.

[O.T.B.C 0]

Its weird that you can do all of the above in nearly every other sporting match except football, which is classed as a designated match.

[Brendo 0]

Just to add, the fat guy''s shorts are from asda, or geroge :P

[loz h 0]

sorry brendon goerge?

[bassam8-ncfc 0]

how much do the two men want 4 the season tickets they chucked at gunn

[Brendo 0]

Lol you spelt it wrong too you tit. and yes, because i really think that that is how you spell "George".

[Syteanric 1]

[quote user="Smudger"][quote user="Canaries in Bed"][quote user="Smudger"]

[quote user="Canaries in Bed"]Violence does not have to be physical, even the basic common assault is not actually an assault per se. They acted in a threatening manner and had to be restrained by stewards, you don''t know what they would have done if the stewards and others had not stopped them, I don''t and I''m sure Gunn and Co were in fear for their safety.[/quote]

No I don''t know what they would of done.  Thrown their season tickets at Mr Gunn no doubt.  Oh wait a min, didn''t they do that anyway???

They had to be restrained by stewards?  Isn''t that part and parcel of a Stewards job?  It is like saying that somebody is commiting a criminal offence when being asked to leave a nightclub and escorted away by a bouncer.  Were they violent towards the said stewards?  If they had of wanted to show violence towards anybody then you would of seen a lot more of a scuffle than what actually occured I can assure you.

I acted in a threatening manner on our open day then when I expressed an opinion to Mr Gunn and was threatened of being thrown out by several stewards I suppose? 

My response to the stewards was" if you want to cause a scene then that is your choice, but I have not broken any laws and I will not be going quietly."

[/quote]

But you did break the law. I suggest you have a wee peak at some of the offences out there.

[/quote]

Oh and what law did I break?

Oh silly me I gave a critical opinion on Mr Gunn, saying that he had already failed as manager of NCFC and did not deserve the chance to balls things up even further.  [:$]

[/quote]

i was at that open Day smudger and Gunn shut you up good and proper... you "acted in a threatening manner" by standing by the bar at the back of the room peering over the heads of a group of people in front of you....

Gunny had you for breakfast mate....

you''d be far more menacing on Row 1......

jas :)

[ca 1]

[quote user="jas the barclay king"] i was at that open Day smudger and Gunn shut you up good and proper... you "acted in a threatening manner" by standing by the bar at the back of the room peering over the heads of a group of people in front of you....

Gunny had you for breakfast mate....

you''d be far more menacing on Row 1......

jas :)

[/quote]

I was quite close to Smudger at that event and I didn''t think Gunn shut Smudger up at all, in fact a couple of stewards tried too but failed [:)]

[Marty 0]

Personally I reckon these two people are going to feel like a couple of plums. Yes the result was shocking, but this is football, we will not do that badly for a while. So in a few games when things pick up they are probably going to regret there puerille behaviour, at least they can take their wives shopping on Saturday afternoons from now on!

[O.T.B.C 0]

[quote user="cityangel"][quote user="jas the barclay king"] i was at that open Day smudger and Gunn shut you up good and proper... you "acted in a threatening manner" by standing by the bar at the back of the room peering over the heads of a group of people in front of you....

Gunny had you for breakfast mate....

you''d be far more menacing on Row 1......

jas :)

[/quote]

I was quite close to Smudger at that event and I didn''t think Gunn shut Smudger up at all, in fact a couple of stewards tried too but failed [:)]

[/quote]

Was he at the front CA?

[WeAreYellows49 0]

[quote user="Marty"]Personally I reckon these two people are going to feel like a couple of plums. Yes the result was shocking, but this is football, we will not do that badly for a while. So in a few games when things pick up they are probably going to regret there puerille behaviour, at least they can take their wives shopping on Saturday afternoons from now on![/quote]

That wasn''t football we witnessed Saturday, it was an average Col U team playing a team of supposed NC players who laid down and gave up.

[ref89 0]

Always a voice of reason on the board of poison![quote user="cityangel"][quote user="jas the barclay king"] i was at that open Day smudger and Gunn shut you up good and proper... you "acted in a threatening manner" by standing by the bar at the back of the room peering over the heads of a group of people in front of you....

Gunny had you for breakfast mate....

you''d be far more menacing on Row 1......

jas :)

[/quote]

I was quite close to Smudger at that event and I didn''t think Gunn shut Smudger up at all, in fact a couple of stewards tried too but failed [:)]

[/quote]

[Hard Cell 0]

Marty: sadly its supporters like you that don''t understand what passion is. You don''t consider your actions at times like that. I''d promote the two guys onto the Board or get them in the dressing room before the match to instill some fight into the players and remind the tossers its not just a job.

[Lewie - Holt Our Saviour 0]

They were cautioned

[Marty 0]

[quote user="Hard Cell"]Marty: sadly its supporters like you that don''t understand what passion is. You don''t consider your actions at times like that. I''d promote the two guys onto the Board or get them in the dressing room before the match to instill some fight into the players and remind the tossers its not just a job.[/quote]

Now I don''t mind having a difference of opinion, but just becuase I don''t advocate this type of behaviour doesn''t mean I lack passion, way off the mark.

[Smudger 0]

[quote user="Canaries in Bed"]You didn''t say that you gave Gunn a critical opinion, you said that you acted in a threatening manner. Thats a bit different.[/quote]

Threatening by your standards... I may of said "I think you are a crap football manager Mr Gunn and I believe that if given the job you will prove to be the worst manager in NCFC''s history" or something more liberally dressed up with the same message.

Now in my eyes that is fair comment, but in your eyes and some of the other nancy boys who post on here you would call that threatening behaviour (therefore I was putting myself in your shoes).

If Mr Gunn felt threatened by my actions or the actions of the two individuals yesterday then he is quite clearly in the wrong job in my opinion.

[Marty 0]

[quote user="Hard Cell"]Marty: sadly its supporters like you that don''t understand what passion is. You don''t consider your actions at times like that. I''d promote the two guys onto the Board or get them in the dressing room before the match to instill some fight into the players and remind the tossers its not just a job.[/quote]

I''ve done a fair few things in the heat of the moment that I have later regreted, I am older and wiser. I have passion for the club and have felt like doing something stupid in the past, but like most people I sensibly choose not to.

[Smudger 0]

[quote user="Marty"]

[quote user="Hard Cell"]Marty: sadly its supporters like you that don''t understand what passion is. You don''t consider your actions at times like that. I''d promote the two guys onto the Board or get them in the dressing room before the match to instill some fight into the players and remind the tossers its not just a job.[/quote]

I''ve done a fair few things in the heat of the moment that I have later regreted, I am older and wiser. I have passion for the club and have felt like doing something stupid in the past, but like most people I sensibly choose not to.

[/quote]

Are you not going to enlighten us by naming one or two of these things that you have done in the heat of the moment then Marty?

[Marty 0]

[quote user="Smudger"][quote user="Marty"]

[quote user="Hard Cell"]Marty: sadly its supporters like you that don''t understand what passion is. You don''t consider your actions at times like that. I''d promote the two guys onto the Board or get them in the dressing room before the match to instill some fight into the players and remind the tossers its not just a job.[/quote]

I''ve done a fair few things in the heat of the moment that I have later regreted, I am older and wiser. I have passion for the club and have felt like doing something stupid in the past, but like most people I sensibly choose not to.

[/quote]

Are you not going to enlighten us by naming one or two of these things that you have done in the heat of the moment then Marty?

[/quote]

nope!

[corbs 0]

[quote user="Mr.Carrow"]

[quote user="Fellas"]Well all I''m going to say is, is that their actions resulted in more publicity than any of the protests, mishaps, managerial incompetencies, phone-in rants, message board protests, NCISA meetings, AGM booings, lacklustre performances or relegations. Call it irresponsible, call it stupid, call it dangerous. But it has gained more media attention (and deservedly so, finally) despite it being a very simple all be it powerful message.
[/quote]

Spot on.  It also shows the country that the ever patronised "Delias nice little norwich from the country" will not always take abject failure lying down.  A big, big positive to come out of an horrendous day.

As i`ve already mentioned on this thread, the bloke who did the same thing at M`Boro received alot of sympathy and the media was full of the usual platitudes about how "They`re passionate about their football in that part of the world" or "Passions spilled over after another abject performance".  But of course when it happens at lovely civilised little norwich it`s different isn`t it?

[/quote]. Two guys running on the pitch did not constitute a BIG big plus on the day. Unlike the media we fans know that Norwich Supporters are proud and passionate, we do not require media confirmation of this. Mr Carrow you really must give this ''little Norwich'' obession a break.

[Mr.Carrow 376]

Corbs, would you call the supporters who applauded our team off for not bothering to turn up at Charlton and again on Saturday "Proud and passionate"??

[Mook 0]

[quote user="Mr.Carrow"]

As i`ve already mentioned on this thread, the bloke who did the same thing at M`Boro received alot of sympathy and the media was full of the usual platitudes about how "They`re passionate about their football in that part of the world" or "Passions spilled over after another abject performance".  But of course when it happens at lovely civilised little norwich it`s different isn`t it?

[/quote]Good point, Mr Carrow. And without passionate people like that, displaying their passion in such a brilliantly passionate way, Middlesborough would have been relegated.What''s that?Oh.

[Marty 0]

Well as far as I can see one was fat and the other couldn''t pull his trousers up adequately!

No, I don''t think people should behave like that, hope they don''t let ''em back. You act like an ape you should suffer the consequences.

Before people get on their high horses about my so called lack of passion, what if we all behaved like that every time we were faced with something that caused us such frustration and disapointment? After a decent pre season in which most people were relatively optimistic about our new look team we suffer a poor 20 or so minutes and these guys chuck their dummys out of the pram. This is football, sh*t happens and then you bounce back. I''d give it a few more games before slitting my wrists, every team suffers the odd freak result, well thats our one done and dusted with, lighting surely can''t strike twice (can it?).

And most people I know think these blokes looked stupid too, as did the people chatting on radio 5, i''m not unique, just my opinion, doesn''t make me less of a fan (although I am sure some will tell me otherwise).

[Smudger 0]

[quote user="Marty"][quote user="Smudger"][quote user="Marty"]

[quote user="Hard Cell"]Marty: sadly its supporters like you that don''t understand what passion is. You don''t consider your actions at times like that. I''d promote the two guys onto the Board or get them in the dressing room before the match to instill some fight into the players and remind the tossers its not just a job.[/quote]

I''ve done a fair few things in the heat of the moment that I have later regreted, I am older and wiser. I have passion for the club and have felt like doing something stupid in the past, but like most people I sensibly choose not to.

[/quote]

Are you not going to enlighten us by naming one or two of these things that you have done in the heat of the moment then Marty?

[/quote]

nope!

[/quote]

No surprises there... empty slogans without examples... [:$]

[Smudger 0]

[quote user="Marty"]

Well as far as I can see one was fat and the other couldn''t pull his trousers up adequately!

No, I don''t think people should behave like that, hope they don''t let ''em back. You act like an ape you should suffer the consequences.

Before people get on their high horses about my so called lack of passion, what if we all behaved like that every time we were faced with something that caused us such frustration and disapointment? After a decent pre season in which most people were relatively optimistic about our new look team we suffer a poor 20 or so minutes and these guys chuck their dummys out of the pram. This is football, sh*t happens and then you bounce back. I''d give it a few more games before slitting my wrists, every team suffers the odd freak result, well thats our one done and dusted with, lighting surely can''t strike twice (can it?).

And most people I know think these blokes looked stupid too, as did the people chatting on radio 5, i''m not unique, just my opinion, doesn''t make me less of a fan (although I am sure some will tell me otherwise).

[/quote]

lol... keep on bending over and taking it sideways Marty... [:$]

[Mr.Carrow 376]

[quote user="Mook"][quote user="Mr.Carrow"]

As i`ve already mentioned on this thread, the bloke who did the same thing at M`Boro received alot of sympathy and the media was full of the usual platitudes about how "They`re passionate about their football in that part of the world" or "Passions spilled over after another abject performance".  But of course when it happens at lovely civilised little norwich it`s different isn`t it?

[/quote]

Good point, Mr Carrow. And without passionate people like that, displaying their passion in such a brilliantly passionate way, Middlesborough would have been relegated.

What''s that?

Oh.
[/quote]

They were not relegated in that season Mook, they actually went on a decent run after the incident.  Must try harder....