A Small Example Of Where Your Money Goes

[Common Sense 0]

Although newspaper reports have stated that the team are staying at St Andrews University it is not strictly true.

They are staying there and at two other hotels during their Scotland tour. One of the hotels is priced at £170 a night & even with players / staff sharing a room thats a lot of money for a club that cannot compete in the transfer arena. The other hotel is just over £100 & St Andrews a bit cheaper but add that to the air fares and that the travelling party totals 48 you have an idea where the money goes.

You can all do the maths yourselves.

I fully understand the players need to be one hundred percent prepared for the new season & pre season is a vital time at all clubs but does a club that CONSTANTLY claims to be hard up really need to spend this amount of money ?

We have had a number of Scottish tours in recent years & they have certainly not produced the goods in terms of performances when the proper season begins.

Anyway thats just one example of how Norwich City Football Club spends your money.

[William Darby 0]

Bet Archant knew, but were told to hush their noise[;)]

[Joanna Grey 0]

And the award for most pathetic topic of the year goes to...

[Romantic 0]

[quote user="Common Sense"]

Although newspaper reports have stated that the team are staying at St Andrews University it is not strictly true.

They are staying there and at two other hotels during their Scotland tour. One of the hotels is priced at £170 a night & even with players / staff sharing a room thats a lot of money for a club that cannot compete in the transfer arena. The other hotel is just over £100 & St Andrews a bit cheaper but add that to the air fares and that the travelling party totals 48 you have an idea where the money goes.

You can all do the maths yourselves.

I fully understand the players need to be one hundred percent prepared for the new season & pre season is a vital time at all clubs but does a club that CONSTANTLY claims to be hard up really need to spend this amount of money ?

We have had a number of Scottish tours in recent years & they have certainly not produced the goods in terms of performances when the proper season begins.

Anyway thats just one example of how Norwich City Football Club spends your money.

[/quote]I don''t mind this. I really don''t! I mind a lot of stuff. Sometimes I mind multiple things in one day. But this? This doesn''t bother me. So in conclusion, I don''t mind.

[Tangible Fixed Assets anyone? 0]

Well done Common Sense.

Going back to Doncaster''s analysis in the paper a few months back, £805k was listed as being spent on accommodation, travel, medical etc.

We are a Division 3 (old money) club, not a Premiership club.

 

[ref89 0]

Its a fair point.  The total would buy half a decent player!

[Sideshow Tim 110]

Get a life, what do you expect them to do, bloody camp?

[lappinitup 629]

[quote user="Tangible Fixed Assets anyone"]Well done Common Sense.

Going back to Doncaster''s analysis in the paper a few months back, £805k was listed as being spent on accommodation, travel, medical etc.

We are a Division 3 (old money) club, not a Premiership club.[/quote]Too right Tangy, must be a Butlins nearby. If not the YHA is only £9 a night. Let''s get real, fed up with being a laughing stock!

[Blofield Canary 12]

Whatever sort of miserble lives do some of you lot lead. If that''s what they are paying for rooms it''s hardly bloody expensive especially if they are sharing.

[Buzz Killington 0]

I thought the players sponsors, trip sponsors, or some sort of sponsor paid for things on those trips.

[Tangible Fixed Assets anyone? 0]

[quote user="Sideshow Tim"]Get a life, what do you expect them to do, bloody camp?[/quote]

Could do pre season at Colney / UEA (like they use to) and play friendlies in East Anglia.

 

 

[Tangible Fixed Assets anyone? 0]

[quote user="jbghost"]Whatever sort of miserble lives do some of you lot lead. If that''s what they are paying for rooms it''s hardly bloody expensive especially if they are sharing.[/quote]

Well please explain how according to Doncasters analysis the club managed to spend £805k on accommodation, travel and medical etc.  

 

 

[Tangible Fixed Assets anyone? 0]

[quote user="lappinitup"][quote user="Tangible Fixed Assets anyone"]Well done Common Sense.

Going back to Doncaster''s analysis in the paper a few months back, £805k was listed as being spent on accommodation, travel, medical etc.

We are a Division 3 (old money) club, not a Premiership club.[/quote]Too right Tangy, must be a Butlins nearby. If not the YHA is only £9 a night. [/quote]

 

Thats right Lappinitup, lets spend the resources on overheads and less on the player budget. We go to Carrow Rd to watch the football but of course you didn''t have a season ticket last season so it doesn''t matter to you does it? 

Lets forget the fact that we are a Division 3 (old money) club, not a Premiership club and should manage our resources accordingly.

 

  

[Delia Out! 0]

[quote user="Common Sense"]

Although newspaper reports have stated that the team are staying at St Andrews University it is not strictly true.

They are staying there and at two other hotels during their Scotland tour. One of the hotels is priced at £170 a night & even with players / staff sharing a room thats a lot of money for a club that cannot compete in the transfer arena. The other hotel is just over £100 & St Andrews a bit cheaper but add that to the air fares and that the travelling party totals 48 you have an idea where the money goes.

You can all do the maths yourselves.

I fully understand the players need to be one hundred percent prepared for the new season & pre season is a vital time at all clubs but does a club that CONSTANTLY claims to be hard up really need to spend this amount of money ?

We have had a number of Scottish tours in recent years & they have certainly not produced the goods in terms of performances when the proper season begins.

Anyway thats just one example of how Norwich City Football Club spends your money.

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Excellent point.

[BlyBlyBabes 0]

48?

48?

A party of 48?

Is the club paying for WAGS too?

OTBC

 

[Camuldonum 0]

[quote user="Common Sense"]

Although newspaper reports have stated that the team are staying at St Andrews University it is not strictly true.

They are staying there and at two other hotels during their Scotland tour. One of the hotels is priced at £170 a night & even with players / staff sharing a room thats a lot of money for a club that cannot compete in the transfer arena. The other hotel is just over £100 & St Andrews a bit cheaper but add that to the air fares and that the travelling party totals 48 you have an idea where the money goes.

You can all do the maths yourselves.

I fully understand the players need to be one hundred percent prepared for the new season & pre season is a vital time at all clubs but does a club that CONSTANTLY claims to be hard up really need to spend this amount of money ?

We have had a number of Scottish tours in recent years & they have certainly not produced the goods in terms of performances when the proper season begins.

Anyway thats just one example of how Norwich City Football Club spends your money.

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Most hotels do fairly good discounts on block bookings and, so far as I know, most football clubs tend to take advantage of that. In addition, clubs are required under the terms of their PFA agreement to provide players on tour with "acceptable accommodation" which, with certain exceptions such as "boot camps", military camps etc is generally a minimum of three star. 

[Blofield Canary 12]

So the two lads on the offy site who are writing a daily tour report are lying when they said they met up with the players at the David Russel Appartments where they are staying.

[If wed kept Howie.. 300]

You think £170 a night is a lot for a hotel room for a business related stay???

How much exactly should the club spend per room per night? And how many people should go on pre-season tour?

Then you can say exactly how the club is doing something wrong.

[Yelverton Yella 0]

I am sure there are many examples of waste hidden deep in the ledgers

of the club but, personally, I don''t think this is one of them.

If you are correctthat the budget for travel, accommodation and medical expenses was £800k it does sound quite high but, when you consider the cost of scans, specialist investigations etc., I would imagine that the ''medical'' element must have been a fair chunk of that; frankly, it seems a bit bizarre to lump medical expenses along with travel and accommodation.To return to the tour, the idea of taking the (vastly changed) squad away together to gel, get to know each other and work on some fitness and tactics for the new season seems eminently sensible- apart from the benefit of assessing the triallists and seeing how they fit in with the established players. As far as the reported costs are concerned, they actually sound pretty reasonable.It really does seem that some people will attack anything and everything, however irrational. I imagine that, if there had been no pre season tour, there would have been complaints about the lack of preparation and how Gunn does not understand the need to build a team spirit...For Heaven''s sake, there are enough easy targets to attack with the way this club has been run without resorting to mindless carping.

[Common Sense 0]

I know this sort of subject is of little interest to some of you (if so don''t bother to respond) but when the club complains of a lack of cash it is untrue. We have more than enough money to compete in the transfer market whether in League One or the Championship but the club chooses to put more of their resources in budgets that should have a smaller budget.

This is just one example of many where I know they have wasted money.

I hope the new Chief Excec gets a hold of the clubs finances unlike Mr Doncaster who wasted & plundered our clubs resources.

 

[Blofield Canary 12]

"You think £170 a night is a lot for a hotel room for a business related stay??? How much exactly should the club spend per room per night? And how many people should go on pre-season tour? Then you can say exactly how the club is doing something wrong."

 

Not forgetting 2 players are sharing which would never happen in any other business. That makes it £85 a night each which really is cheap. look at it as a cost per player and there is no argument really. (Not forgetting of course it''s a load of Bo**ox as the players are all satying in the David Russel appartments)

[Simon Lappin, King Of Spain 0]

[quote user="Yelverton Yella"]I am sure there are many examples of waste hidden deep in the ledgers of the club but, personally, I don''t think this is one of them.

If you are correctthat the budget for travel, accommodation and medical expenses was £800k it does sound quite high but, when you consider the cost of scans, specialist investigations etc., I would imagine that the ''medical'' element must have been a fair chunk of that; frankly, it seems a bit bizarre to lump medical expenses along with travel and accommodation.

To return to the tour, the idea of taking the (vastly changed) squad away together to gel, get to know each other and work on some fitness and tactics for the new season seems eminently sensible- apart from the benefit of assessing the triallists and seeing how they fit in with the established players. As far as the reported costs are concerned, they actually sound pretty reasonable.

It really does seem that some people will attack anything and everything, however irrational. I imagine that, if there had been no pre season tour, there would have been complaints about the lack of preparation and how Gunn does not understand the need to build a team spirit...

For Heaven''s sake, there are enough easy targets to attack with the way this club has been run without resorting to mindless carping.


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My thoughts exactly. To utilise an oft quoted phrase; "Bang... Nail... Head!!!!!!"

[Mr. Bump 0]

Bryan Gunn and Matty Pattison are staying in a double room suite

[Beauseant 0]

You mean they''re not camping? To the barricades!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rupethebear 0]

This post is very inaccurate, all hotels publish a ''rack rate'' and I think your quote of £170 is just that. Anybody with any commercial sense will know nobody ever pays that. Group booking are very often well below 50% of the rack rate, it''s school holiday time in Scotland so occupancy levels will be at there lowest of the year which means the room rates may well be the too.

The season is just about to start so let''s get behind the team and stop these pointless posts!

[SS 0]

So £85 per person per night? I''m shocked the players share rooms! I know I certainly wouldn''t expect to share a hotel room with my colleagues.

[Desert Fox 0]

Commonsense,

A touring party of 48 is a very precise number. How do you know this?

[Common Sense 0]

The figures are from paperwork seen at the club so they are 100% correct including the 48 in the touring party.

I assume a discount was already taken into account as even this can''t be that stupid.

[Simon Lappin, King Of Spain 0]

[quote user="SS"]So £85 per person per night? I''m shocked the players share rooms! I know I certainly wouldn''t expect to share a hotel room with my colleagues.
[/quote]

Have you never been on tour? it''s common practice, usually a youngster and a older head are paired, it''s a method of building team spirit and helping the younger players settle in. I don''t know about premier league prima donnas but it''s always done by the top rugby union teams even at international level (eg on the recent Lions tour). I don''t see an issue with it at all, the whole point of the tour is to take the team out of their normal environment so that they eat, sleep, train and play together, it''s the only way to develop understanding between players in what is a very short preseason.

[CANARY CHARGE 0]

[quote user="lappinitup"][quote user="Tangible Fixed Assets anyone"]Well done Common Sense.

Going back to Doncaster''s analysis in the paper a few months back, £805k was listed as being spent on accommodation, travel, medical etc.

We are a Division 3 (old money) club, not a Premiership club.[/quote]Too right Tangy, must be a Butlins nearby. If not the YHA is only £9 a night. Let''s get real, fed up with being a laughing stock!

[/quote]

Good work!! and ill do the pack up''s for 4 quid a pop!