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[quote user="Mr. Bump"][quote user="norky84"]I''d expect the fee to be higher then you think. Maybe around 500k? I hope you haven''t got any Casinos in your area. Whaley is a BIG gambler. Very glad that he is leaving us. Big time Charlie attitude, and only played well during one two month spell and that is it.[/quote]Every PNE fan is happy to get rid of him.But no, they must all be wrong, Whaley''s a fantastic signing despite his lazyness and ego and yet some of you are pronouncing his name as bloody WALL-E unintentionally.Otsemobor and Whaley, probably the laziest right hand side partnership in the league. Whaley isn''t gonna help out Otsemobor, and that''s gonna make the defense worse too.Terrible signing.[/quote]Even 300k for this guy would be a massive waste of money. Watch this space.

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Presumably well below the £100k threshold!

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11709_5434333,00.html

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It''s nice to see that the imaginary £100k figure is now written into anti-board folklore...

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Wasn''t it a minimum of 350k?
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Yep, exactly, figures quoted were for £300/350k up front and then more to follow up to about £500k in total. Despite this being reported by the local (Brighton) paper and Cam on here it seems that the £100k figure will be dragged up time and time again by some.

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[quote user="MoCamara"]Having read this forum religiously over the past month to get news of transfers, the posters on here have really baffled me. When we sign a player that the previous clubs have rated (Gill) or are tipped for future international captaincy (OTJ), who i am very optimistic about i must say, then you all moan. Yet here we have a player who both by Norky on here, and by all the PNE fans on the original link to their forum when the news broke, can''t wait to see the back of him. SO WHY ARE PEOPLE PLEASED WITH THIS SIGNING! Please, somebody enlighten me.[/quote]

Let us just hope that it is a Chris Brown situation in reverse.

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I''d much rather have someone like Neilson on the right, i know he is inexperienced but he is clearly talented and will only improve through time. I know many fans wont admit it, but know we are in League 1 we are a selling club. Buying young triallists (Powell, Neilson, Mtandri) on a free is a better investment, as they could amount to millions in future revenue. A mixture of lower league experience and youth players with potential is vital this season.

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I think we should give the guy a chance. Clearly Preston fans don''t think a lot of him, but looking over their forums and the like, they were very keen on having Darel Russell. Perhaps Whaley will come here and with a fresh slate make a new start.

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[quote user="MoCamara"]Having read this forum religiously over the past month to get news of transfers, the posters on here have really baffled me. When we sign a player that the previous clubs have rated (Gill) or are tipped for future international captaincy (OTJ), who i am very optimistic about i must say, then you all moan. Yet here we have a player who both by Norky on here, and by all the PNE fans on the original link to their forum when the news broke, can''t wait to see the back of him. SO WHY ARE PEOPLE PLEASED WITH THIS SIGNING! Please, somebody enlighten me.[/quote]

 

Hooray, some commonsense ! If Preston rate him so poorly as to sell him to Norwich for peanuts and no other club wants him then why are people saying that he is a good signing ?

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[quote user="Evil Monkey"]The words ''Norwich'' and ''Fee'' don''t compute this season.... brain overload!
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Maybe you just don''t the required memory capacity in your computer? We paid a fee for Owain Tudor-Jones.

We have sold one player and bought one player. The purchase of Whaley would make it 2 players we have paid for, 1 player we have sold.

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people are pleased because theres a price tag applied, just like they wouldve been pleased with dickinson becuse theres a fee involved,

however i think this could be a potentialy good signing, hes a winger, and doesnt have to bad a cross on him,

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[quote user="Evil Monkey"]The words ''Norwich'' and ''Fee'' don''t compute this season.... brain overload![/quote]

Maybe you just don''t the required memory capacity in your computer? We paid a fee for Owain Tudor-Jones.

We have sold one player and bought one player. The purchase of Whaley would make it 2 players we have paid for, 1 player we have sold.

[/quote]The fee is to be paid upon promotion... otherwise, its a free... I thought this one had been done to death already?

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I do have to laugh. The guy''s not even pulled on a city shirt yet and some people are slating him.

Preston fans didn''t rate Dickson Etuhu. Now look where he is. Preston fans seem to rate Darel Russell and Chris Brown. Two players I think most Norwich fans would give negative views on.

It''s all a matter of perspective. I for one would welcome Whaley and reserve my opinion until I see him play in the yellow and green. I would hope most reasonable people would agree. 

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[quote user="MoCamara"]Having read this forum religiously over the past month to get news of transfers, the posters on here have really baffled me. When we sign a player that the previous clubs have rated (Gill) or are tipped for future international captaincy (OTJ), who i am very optimistic about i must say, then you all moan. Yet here we have a player who both by Norky on here, and by all the PNE fans on the original link to their forum when the news broke, can''t wait to see the back of him. SO WHY ARE PEOPLE PLEASED WITH THIS SIGNING! Please, somebody enlighten me.[/quote]

All I can comment on is the 3 or 4 times that I have seen him play over the last few years. Each time he has looked direct, pacey and intelligient.

At the moment we don''t have any direct, pacey and intelligient wingers. To keep things simple, I see the addition of such a player to add to what we have currently got. I also seem to remember him being a much better crosser of the ball than Lee Croft.

So you asked why people are pleased with this signing (although what you meant to say is why WOULD people be pleased with this singing - as of course it has not yet happened. And I feel that I have answered this question accordingly, considering I can only speak for myself.

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I do have to laugh. The guy''s not even pulled on a city shirt yet and some people are slating him.

Preston fans didn''t rate Dickson Etuhu. Now look where he is. Preston fans seem to rate Darel Russell and Chris Brown. Two players I think most Norwich fans would give negative views on.

It''s all a matter of perspective. I for one would welcome Whaley and reserve my opinion until I see him play in the yellow and green. I would hope most reasonable people would agree. 

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Yet why slate all of our other signings who were rated by former clubs? Hypocrisy is rife in this forum

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[quote user="Evil Monkey"][quote user="JuanVelasco"]

[quote user="Evil Monkey"]The words ''Norwich'' and ''Fee'' don''t compute this season.... brain overload!
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Maybe you just don''t the required memory capacity in your computer? We paid a fee for Owain Tudor-Jones.

We have sold one player and bought one player. The purchase of Whaley would make it 2 players we have paid for, 1 player we have sold.

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The fee is to be paid upon promotion... otherwise, its a free... I thought this one had been done to death already?
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Fair enough I must of missed that. In fairness I tend to stay off of threads that get any bigger than 50 posts...... so anything ''done to death'' has probably not been done by me at all ;-)

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[quote user="MoCamara"][quote user="TheCardinal"]

I do have to laugh. The guy''s not even pulled on a city shirt yet and some people are slating him.

Preston fans didn''t rate Dickson Etuhu. Now look where he is. Preston fans seem to rate Darel Russell and Chris Brown. Two players I think most Norwich fans would give negative views on.

It''s all a matter of perspective. I for one would welcome Whaley and reserve my opinion until I see him play in the yellow and green. I would hope most reasonable people would agree. 

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Yet why slate all of our other signings who were rated by former clubs? Hypocrisy is rife in this forum

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I''m not sure why you''ve directly quoted my post and then suggested I''ve been hypocritical. I''ve not slated any of our other signings. I think we''ve done well in the market so far.

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[quote user="TheCardinal"][quote user="MoCamara"][quote user="TheCardinal"]

I do have to laugh. The guy''s not even pulled on a city shirt yet and some people are slating him.

Preston fans didn''t rate Dickson Etuhu. Now look where he is. Preston fans seem to rate Darel Russell and Chris Brown. Two players I think most Norwich fans would give negative views on.

It''s all a matter of perspective. I for one would welcome Whaley and reserve my opinion until I see him play in the yellow and green. I would hope most reasonable people would agree. 

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Yet why slate all of our other signings who were rated by former clubs? Hypocrisy is rife in this forum

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I''m not sure why you''ve directly quoted my post and then suggested I''ve been hypocritical. I''ve not slated any of our other signings. I think we''ve done well in the market so far.

 

Sorry was not directed at you more the attitude on here in general

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We''ll have to wait and see. A lot of Norwich fans didn''t rate Chris Brown (although i''d kill to have him back here atm, he''s the type of striker we''ve needed the past two seasons) yet he''s done really well at PNE.

Welcome to Norwich Whaley, looking forward to seeing you play in a City shirt.

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[quote user="MoCamara"][quote user="TheCardinal"][quote user="MoCamara"][quote user="TheCardinal"]

I do have to laugh. The guy''s not even pulled on a city shirt yet and some people are slating him.

Preston fans didn''t rate Dickson Etuhu. Now look where he is. Preston fans seem to rate Darel Russell and Chris Brown. Two players I think most Norwich fans would give negative views on.

It''s all a matter of perspective. I for one would welcome Whaley and reserve my opinion until I see him play in the yellow and green. I would hope most reasonable people would agree. 

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Yet why slate all of our other signings who were rated by former clubs? Hypocrisy is rife in this forum

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I''m not sure why you''ve directly quoted my post and then suggested I''ve been hypocritical. I''ve not slated any of our other signings. I think we''ve done well in the market so far.

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Sorry was not directed at you more the attitude on here in general

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Ahh. No problems [:D]

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[quote user="JuanVelasco"][quote user="Evil Monkey"][quote user="JuanVelasco"]

[quote user="Evil Monkey"]The words ''Norwich'' and ''Fee'' don''t compute this season.... brain overload![/quote]

Maybe you just don''t the required memory capacity in your computer? We paid a fee for Owain Tudor-Jones.

We have sold one player and bought one player. The purchase of Whaley would make it 2 players we have paid for, 1 player we have sold.

[/quote]The fee is to be paid upon promotion... otherwise, its a free... I thought this one had been done to death already?[/quote]

Fair enough I must have missed that. In fairness I tend to stay off of threads that get any bigger than 50 posts...... so anything ''done to death'' has probably not been done by me at all ;-)

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[quote user="Evil Monkey"][quote user="JuanVelasco"][quote user="Evil Monkey"][quote user="JuanVelasco"]

[quote user="Evil Monkey"]The words ''Norwich'' and ''Fee'' don''t compute this season.... brain overload!
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Maybe you just don''t the required memory capacity in your computer? We paid a fee for Owain Tudor-Jones.

We have sold one player and bought one player. The purchase of Whaley would make it 2 players we have paid for, 1 player we have sold.

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The fee is to be paid upon promotion... otherwise, it''s a free... I thought this one had been done to death already?
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Fair enough I must have missed that. In fairness I tend to stay off of threads that get any bigger than 50 posts...... so anything ''done to death'' has probably not been done by me at all ;-)

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[quote user="JuanVelasco"]

[quote user="MoCamara"]Having read this forum religiously over the past month to get news of transfers, the posters on here have really baffled me. When we sign a player that the previous clubs have rated (Gill) or are tipped for future international captaincy (OTJ), who i am very optimistic about i must say, then you all moan. Yet here we have a player who both by Norky on here, and by all the PNE fans on the original link to their forum when the news broke, can''t wait to see the back of him. SO WHY ARE PEOPLE PLEASED WITH THIS SIGNING! Please, somebody enlighten me.[/quote]

All I can comment on is the 3 or 4 times that I have seen him play over the last few years. Each time he has looked direct, pacey and intelligient.

At the moment we don''t have any direct, pacey and intelligient wingers. To keep things simple, I see the addition of such a player to add to what we have currently got. I also seem to remember him being a much better crosser of the ball than Lee Croft.

So you asked why people are pleased with this signing (although what you meant to say is why WOULD people be pleased with this singing - as of course it has not yet happened. And I feel that I have answered this question accordingly, considering I can only speak for myself.

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To be fair though Juan he has probably been playing against us? We are quite good at making opposition players look direct pacy and intelligent!

I have to say I am surprised at the reaction of the Preston fans as he has always seemed to be in and around their team over the last 3 or 4 seasons and has not looked too bad when we''ve played them It seems he was excellent when he first joined them and rated alongside nugent as a real star of the future. Lets just hope a cahnge of scenery is what he needs to recapture that sort of form. Plus if he has a bit of pace then its a bit more than we have now - which is basically none!

 

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Like all the other new recruits, my judgement shall be reserved until I actually see them play. The move could be the making of him, he''ll be out of his comfort zone at Preston and will have to try and make something of himself at a big club in a lower division. I say we should still being in this Nielson fellow as well if he continues to impress in pre-season, because he''d be hungry for a place in the side and if Whaley goes off the boil Nielson (sp?) will be ready and waiting to nudge him out of the starting XI.

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[quote user="Jim Smith"][quote user="JuanVelasco"]

[quote user="MoCamara"]Having read this forum religiously over the past month to get news of transfers, the posters on here have really baffled me. When we sign a player that the previous clubs have rated (Gill) or are tipped for future international captaincy (OTJ), who i am very optimistic about i must say, then you all moan. Yet here we have a player who both by Norky on here, and by all the PNE fans on the original link to their forum when the news broke, can''t wait to see the back of him. SO WHY ARE PEOPLE PLEASED WITH THIS SIGNING! Please, somebody enlighten me.[/quote]

All I can comment on is the 3 or 4 times that I have seen him play over the last few years. Each time he has looked direct, pacey and intelligient.

At the moment we don''t have any direct, pacey and intelligient wingers. To keep things simple, I see the addition of such a player to add to what we have currently got. I also seem to remember him being a much better crosser of the ball than Lee Croft.

So you asked why people are pleased with this signing (although what you meant to say is why WOULD people be pleased with this singing - as of course it has not yet happened. And I feel that I have answered this question accordingly, considering I can only speak for myself.

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To be fair though Juan he has probably been playing against us? We are quite good at making opposition players look direct pacy and intelligent!

I have to say I am surprised at the reaction of the Preston fans as he has always seemed to be in and around their team over the last 3 or 4 seasons and has not looked too bad when we''ve played them It seems he was excellent when he first joined them and rated alongside nugent as a real star of the future. Lets just hope a cahnge of scenery is what he needs to recapture that sort of form. Plus if he has a bit of pace then its a bit more than we have now - which is basically none!

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A couple of times against us, but also remember seeing him rip Burnley to shreds...... would have thought that Preston fans would have appreciated that.

A lot of the Preston fans seem to think that he is a confidence player. Now, there are two sides to that coin. On one hand we really don''t need another Jamie Cureton. On the other hand, confidence players either do really well for a new club or really poorly. A change might be exactly what he needs. Cureton had a very poor season at Swindon, the fans gave him stick, and then he went to Colchester where he scored a few good goals on loan - the fans got behind him, he regained his confidence and had an excellent season the year after.

My main concern is that City fans are very fickle. It would only take three or four games for us to write him off, if we really got behind the team and the players, then we can help to bring out the best in them. Although an extreme example, Huckerby was a confidence player. He has said that the support he got from City fans is the reason he was untouchable for three or four years here. On the other hand, even a Huckerby lacking confidence would have been one of the best in the championship.

The Whaley signing is going to be one of those where it will be an absolute bargain or an absolute nightmare. He will (hopefully) have the benefit of not having to justify a huge price tag. I also think that Luke Daley will give him a very good fight this year for the shirt.

If Whaley doesn''t bring us consistant performances, he at least brings us competition for places. The club didn''t want to lose Croft, and he is a hard player to replace when your not only skint, but playing in League One.

I am going to give Whaley the chance that he deserves, and hope that he comes good (if we sign him!)

 

 

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Like Croft, Whaley has pace, but he can also look up and cross, so that''s a couple of pluses right there.I''m simply pleased to see some pace coming into the side - how he''ll fair nobody knows - we''ll just have to wait and see.

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[quote user="Superflash"]Like all the other new recruits, my judgement shall be reserved until I actually see them play. The move could be the making of him, he''ll be out of his comfort zone at Preston and will have to try and make something of himself at a big club in a lower division.

I say we should still being in this Nielson fellow as well if he continues to impress in pre-season, because he''d be hungry for a place in the side and if Whaley goes off the boil Nielson (sp?) will be ready and waiting to nudge him out of the starting XI.


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Apparently Nielson looked out of his depth in the first half against Dartford! Personally I think Gunn needs to ask himself "Is Neilson better than Luke Daley?".

If the answer is yes, then we need to be getting shot of Daley, if the answer is no...... then we shouldn''t be looking at Nielson. I rate Daley very highly personally.

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[quote user="Shyster"]Like Croft, Whaley has pace, but he can also look up and cross, so that''s a couple of pluses right there.I''m simply pleased to see some pace coming into the side - how he''ll fair nobody knows - we''ll just have to wait and see.[/quote]

What''s "crossing"...? I seem to remember that from years ago, being important somehow...?

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from a PNE fan on 606:

"For some reason it ended up not working out for him at North End, He started brilliantly and had a lot of premiership scouts looking at him, at the time he was rated a better prospect than Dave Nugent in the Championship, then he seemed to lose confidence, much to do with the manager ( simpson ) at the time."

If we get the confident Whaley of 2 seasons ago when he broke onto the scene we''ll have a cracking player at League 1 level

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[quote user="JuanVelasco"]

[quote user="Superflash"]Like all the other new recruits, my judgement shall be reserved until I actually see them play. The move could be the making of him, he''ll be out of his comfort zone at Preston and will have to try and make something of himself at a big club in a lower division.

I say we should still being in this Nielson fellow as well if he continues to impress in pre-season, because he''d be hungry for a place in the side and if Whaley goes off the boil Nielson (sp?) will be ready and waiting to nudge him out of the starting XI.


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Apparently Nielson looked out of his depth in the first half against Dartford! Personally I think Gunn needs to ask himself "Is Neilson better than Luke Daley?".

If the answer is yes, then we need to be getting shot of Daley, if the answer is no...... then we shouldn''t be looking at Nielson. I rate Daley very highly personally.

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I believe it is between McVeigh and Nielson for a contract, not Daley.

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[quote user="Legend Iwan"][quote user="JuanVelasco"]

[quote user="Superflash"]Like all the other new recruits, my judgement shall be reserved until I actually see them play. The move could be the making of him, he''ll be out of his comfort zone at Preston and will have to try and make something of himself at a big club in a lower division.

I say we should still being in this Nielson fellow as well if he continues to impress in pre-season, because he''d be hungry for a place in the side and if Whaley goes off the boil Nielson (sp?) will be ready and waiting to nudge him out of the starting XI.


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Apparently Nielson looked out of his depth in the first half against Dartford! Personally I think Gunn needs to ask himself "Is Neilson better than Luke Daley?".

If the answer is yes, then we need to be getting shot of Daley, if the answer is no...... then we shouldn''t be looking at Nielson. I rate Daley very highly personally.

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I believe it is between McVeigh and Nielson for a contract, not Daley.

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Thats not what I was trying to say, I am saying what is the point in signing Nielson if we are going to sign Whaley. All that is going to do is push Luke Daley back into oblivion. We don''t need three right wingers.

McVeigh has played on the left side of midfield for us in the friendlies, so McVeigh is irrelevant to this equation. I would personally take McVeigh as our second left winger, in order to prevent Pattison from having to go anywhere near the left wing at any stage of the season.

If I did have to choose between Nielson or McVeigh though, I would choose McVeigh. He is a former international with an abundane of skill, a shouter in the dressing room, and respected by the kids (including Spillane and Martin).

We have enough decent kids at the club already, if they were good enough to be given a pro deal in the first place, then they should be good enough as back up to the senior players.

 

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If he really does have a bit of a gambling problem as suggested by the PNE fan then it''s a matter of simple psychology for Gunn & Co:

"Here, Whaley, I bet you £100 you can''t get 10 assists and at least 10 goals this season"

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