JuanVelasco 27 Posted July 2, 2009 http://www.pinkun.com/content/ncfc/story.aspx?brand=PINKUNOnline&category=Norwich&tBrand=PinkUnOnline&tCategory=Norwich&itemid=NOED02%20Jul%202009%2009%3A37%3A00%3A277Good News. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Humphrey 13 Posted July 2, 2009 Yes it is. Be prepared for the usual crowd to start slagging him off though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaun Tilly Lace 0 Posted July 2, 2009 YIPEEE!! Put out the flags and bunting, he''s gonna lead us to the promised land. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaun Tilly Lace 0 Posted July 2, 2009 Seriously though, I''m quite pleased he has committed himself to the cause again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nexus_Canary 1,016 Posted July 2, 2009 Oh great the big ginger fouling sasquatch is staying :(Lets be sure to set aside a good 9 pts on collatoral due to him giving away lazy penosWe coulda got at least a cow at the Norfolk show for him as well :( Such a shame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuanVelasco 27 Posted July 2, 2009 [quote user="Nexus_Canary"]Oh great the big ginger fouling sasquatch is staying :(Lets be sure to set aside a good 9 pts on collatoral due to him giving away lazy penosWe coulda got at least a cow at the Norfolk show for him as well :( Such a shame.[/quote]He gave away less penalties in around 40 games last season than Stefanovic did in 12. If you are going to spout your negative and pre concieved cr*p at people on here, then at least make it accurate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardhouse44 261 Posted July 2, 2009 Great news. By far our best defender. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wizard 0 Posted July 2, 2009 [quote user="Hardhouse44"]Great news. By far our best defender. [/quote][img]http://carrowroad.net/carrow1/Smileys/new/rofl.gif[/img] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Berkshire Canary 12 Posted July 2, 2009 Glad to see Doc is showing some loyalty and I am pleased that he is staying - he gets too much unwarranted stick IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Humphrey 13 Posted July 2, 2009 [quote user="First Wizard"][quote user="Hardhouse44"]Great news. By far our best defender. [/quote][img]http://carrowroad.net/carrow1/Smileys/new/rofl.gif[/img][/quote][|-)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wizard 0 Posted July 2, 2009 [quote user="Berkshire Canary"]Glad to see Doc is showing some loyalty and I am pleased that he is staying - he gets too much unwarranted stick IMO.[/quote]Or maybe its because no other idiots want him! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCFC_Edward 0 Posted July 2, 2009 He is our best defender by a country mile Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuanVelasco 27 Posted July 2, 2009 [quote user="NCFC Edward"]He is our best defender by a country mile[/quote]Your right he is...... I would like to see Micky Nelson on the bench, who is completely average and no Gary Doherty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syteanric 1 Posted July 2, 2009 [quote user="Nexus_Canary"]Oh great the big ginger fouling sasquatch is staying :(Lets be sure to set aside a good 9 pts on collatoral due to him giving away lazy penosWe coulda got at least a cow at the Norfolk show for him as well :( Such a shame.[/quote]Gary Doherty gave away less penalties than elliot omozusi last season.... jas :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Berkshire Canary 12 Posted July 2, 2009 [quote user="First Wizard"][quote user="Berkshire Canary"] Glad to see Doc is showing some loyalty and I am pleased that he is staying - he gets too much unwarranted stick IMO.[/quote]Or maybe its because no other idiots want him![/quote]I thought that last season he did a pretty decent job, unfortunately there seem to be a few people out there who will have a go at him at any given opportunity. [8-)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumpers for Goalposts 0 Posted July 2, 2009 Imo Doc is a squad player and no more. He is too prone to making mistakes and he does not provide the solid leadership that we need in the back four. I now it''s been said ever since he went to Watford, but, we still need to find a replacement for Malky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wizard 0 Posted July 2, 2009 [quote user="jas the barclay king"][quote user="Nexus_Canary"] Oh great the big ginger fouling sasquatch is staying :(Lets be sure to set aside a good 9 pts on collatoral due to him giving away lazy penosWe coulda got at least a cow at the Norfolk show for him as well :( Such a shame.[/quote]Gary Doherty gave away less penalties than elliot omozusi last season.... jas :)[/quote]But he''ll still lose his man in the penalty area, and give away needless free kicks in dangerous positions outside it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syteanric 1 Posted July 2, 2009 [quote user="First Wizard"][quote user="jas the barclay king"][quote user="Nexus_Canary"] Oh great the big ginger fouling sasquatch is staying :(Lets be sure to set aside a good 9 pts on collatoral due to him giving away lazy penosWe coulda got at least a cow at the Norfolk show for him as well :( Such a shame.[/quote]Gary Doherty gave away less penalties than elliot omozusi last season.... jas :)[/quote]But he''ll still lose his man in the penalty area, and give away needless free kicks in dangerous positions outside it![/quote]how many free kicks did clinkers give away last season because he simply could not keep hold of the ball? there are worse players in this squad than Gary Doherty...jas :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumpers for Goalposts 0 Posted July 2, 2009 [quote user="Hardhouse44"]Great news. By far our best defender. [/quote]Doesn''t that just reflect how weak our squad is? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nexus_Canary 1,016 Posted July 2, 2009 Instead of throwing insults people should just realise that Doc really is a 50 - 50 player in that 50 % fans love him 50 % hate him. Thats just how it has always been and will be.I love the way i get flamed simply because i dont rate the guy past backup ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTG 0 Posted July 2, 2009 [quote user="Nexus_Canary"]Instead of throwing insults people should just realise that Doc really is a 50 - 50 player in that 50 % fans love him 50 % hate him. Thats just how it has always been and will be.I love the way i get flamed simply because i dont rate the guy past backup ! [/quote]More like because of your idiotic first post on this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZLF 271 Posted July 2, 2009 [quote user="jas the barclay king"][quote user="Nexus_Canary"] Oh great the big ginger fouling sasquatch is staying :(Lets be sure to set aside a good 9 pts on collatoral due to him giving away lazy penosWe coulda got at least a cow at the Norfolk show for him as well :( Such a shame.[/quote]Gary Doherty gave away less penalties than elliot omozusi last season.... jas :)[/quote]and kennedy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTG 0 Posted July 2, 2009 [quote user="ZippersLeftFoot"][quote user="jas the barclay king"][quote user="Nexus_Canary"] Oh great the big ginger fouling sasquatch is staying :(Lets be sure to set aside a good 9 pts on collatoral due to him giving away lazy penosWe coulda got at least a cow at the Norfolk show for him as well :( Such a shame.[/quote]Gary Doherty gave away less penalties than elliot omozusi last season.... jas :)[/quote]and kennedy[/quote]Not to mention Mr Penalty himself, Stefanovic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarytom 0 Posted July 2, 2009 We won''t be making the playoffs then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reggie Strayshun 0 Posted July 2, 2009 With possible exception of Shacks,ALL of the central defenders we''ve had for the past 5 yrs (inc Doc) have been PANTS. To say that he is the best,is,frankly,not saying much.I hope,with a drop down in the level in quality of striker,and a few new faces in that area, we''ll be seeing a vast improvement in that dept come next month. Because if we continue to concede penalties/free kicks/soft goals at the same rate as we''ve done for the last few seasons,our stay in Lge 1 will be a long one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EMMSY3 0 Posted July 2, 2009 The nights of standing next to Doherty in optic having a drink can still remain. Good Times Everyone! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bury Yellow 2 Posted July 2, 2009 It will be interesting to see how our goalkeeper this season performs.i remember sitting low down behind the goal at Sheff U. I rarely see the game at that angle and although i was no fan of Marshall, I could appreciate his problem with the Doc.Doc seems unable to project an air of calm about his work. Of course he always gives 100% and seems a likable chap but i cringe when thinking he may play more games than not this coming season. If he does, then we need a player with pace to play along side him.Just my opinion you understand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of Percy Varco 0 Posted July 2, 2009 I despair at times with some people on this board and this is a prime example why. How people think Gary Doherty is our best defender and some our best player is totally beyond me. As I have posted on here numerous times before the man is useless and he''s staying because no one wants him. Supporters of other clubs think he is a joke. Those who like him point to his commitment ("he always gives 134.7% and bleeds yellow and green") which is great and an attribute all players should show but anyone on this board could do this. To his credit he has decent pace and wins a lot in the air in defence. He also is seen making a fair few last ditch tackles. The problem is though that he makes last ditch tackles because he is so often out of position. He follows the ball like school children do rather than holding his line which you can see unsettles the defence. When he heads the ball, even under no pressure, he consistently does not clear his lines and keeps heading the ball up rather than away. No players can have confidence around him because of this. I spent a couple of games last year primarily just watching Doherty seeing what he does with and without the ball. Try it next year and you will see what I mean. Some of my friends who like Doherty say "he''s good and only makes a couple of mistakes a game" which is fair enough as no one is perfect but the mistakes he makes seem worse than many other players as they tend to put the defence in trouble. This guy used to be an international striker and we target him on attacking corners but the amount of clear goalscoring chances he has missed is unbelievable. Has he scored 3 goals in 3 years or something similar? In no way am I saying that Otsemobor is as good as Dani Alves or that other defensive players are fantastic but Doherty is the root of so many of our troubles that he needs to get out of the side. He destabilises our defence and without a decent defence we will not easily get out of this division and the decline of our club since he signed will continue. Is he the only 1st team player in our history to drop 2 divisions with Norwich? As a captain I can not see anyone looking up to him, especially the young players we may be relying on for this season. I am sure I will be shot down by some on here but please point out to me why you think he is so good without using a commitment based argument or saying " come on then, who''s better..." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bovril 219 Posted July 2, 2009 [quote user="The Ghost of Percy Varco"]I despair at times with some people on this board and this is a prime example why. How people think Gary Doherty is our best defender and some our best player is totally beyond me. As I have posted on here numerous times before the man is useless and he''s staying because no one wants him. Supporters of other clubs think he is a joke. Those who like him point to his commitment ("he always gives 134.7% and bleeds yellow and green") which is great and an attribute all players should show but anyone on this board could do this. To his credit he has decent pace and wins a lot in the air in defence. He also is seen making a fair few last ditch tackles. The problem is though that he makes last ditch tackles because he is so often out of position. He follows the ball like school children do rather than holding his line which you can see unsettles the defence. When he heads the ball, even under no pressure, he consistently does not clear his lines and keeps heading the ball up rather than away. No players can have confidence around him because of this. I spent a couple of games last year primarily just watching Doherty seeing what he does with and without the ball. Try it next year and you will see what I mean. Some of my friends who like Doherty say "he''s good and only makes a couple of mistakes a game" which is fair enough as no one is perfect but the mistakes he makes seem worse than many other players as they tend to put the defence in trouble. This guy used to be an international striker and we target him on attacking corners but the amount of clear goalscoring chances he has missed is unbelievable. Has he scored 3 goals in 3 years or something similar? In no way am I saying that Otsemobor is as good as Dani Alves or that other defensive players are fantastic but Doherty is the root of so many of our troubles that he needs to get out of the side. He destabilises our defence and without a decent defence we will not easily get out of this division and the decline of our club since he signed will continue. Is he the only 1st team player in our history to drop 2 divisions with Norwich? As a captain I can not see anyone looking up to him, especially the young players we may be relying on for this season. I am sure I will be shot down by some on here but please point out to me why you think he is so good without using a commitment based argument or saying " come on then, who''s better..."[/quote]I completely agree with you percy, opposition fans do greet him as a joke, ask any away fan and as soon as they see his name they crack up laughing...Yes he is an ok defender and he generally has a good game but like you have pointed out he then consistently makes one or two errors that lead to a pivotal moment in the game, he''s clumsy at times and like my palace friend said ''the reason why you went down this season is because halve your fans think doherty is your best player and that sums it up'' and he couldn''t be more right tbfThe five years since we signed doherty have lead from relegation from the prem, a lower finish in the championship every year and eventually relegation to league one....yes he should be fine in league one but if/should we get promoted we really need another DECENT defender, who I must say I saw in shackell the marked improvement he had made since going to wolves in my opinion was evident. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites