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whats the crack with pattison then? have gunn and him made up? i personally think he could be a real threat in league one and showed around xmas time last season some good form.

not heard much on him lately, every one seemed to think he would be shown the door in the summer but i hope things are sorted and he stays. Thoughts...........?

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Matty Patty would suit third division football & if he kisses and makes up with Gunny & we can afford to keep him he could be  a winner for us from August.

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I hope they can patch things up (if he deserves the 2nd/3rd chance) because he could be a useful player at this level for us.

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I think he would do well in this league, I thought at times he done well, just lacked something sometimes. He should be kept thou.

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where would you play him? Through the middle? not likely. On the left? Poss if hoolahan plays off a front man... but he''s woeful at tracking back...Right mid? a possibility. I would sell him if i was Gunn. If neilson is like a kightly and we sign him and if mcveigh comes in as back up with korey smith there not to mention otsemobor, i think we have good cover for the right hand side.

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I would have him as one of the above, he would be good cover for all for the midfield. We sell him, we would be lucky to get 150k, ok I imagine he would be on Champ wages.

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yes it is the wages i think are a pprob as well... the lad o''brien who swindon just signed from hibs would have been a great signing... think o''brien is his name... on a free wilson has done well. think he played in the same newcastle team as patty. patty is a okay player, but league one is not as bad as everyone thinks, his wages would be better put towards a new player... the less players we have from the roeder regime the better... relegation needs to be a very distant memory... we need new players in with that hunger to play in the champ... players who maybe haven''t had a chance at that level and want to get there with norwich.... players with that drive can make up for only having average ability... does matty have that drive? i don''t think so... (insert drive joke here!)

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Thing is, he was in decent form, then a little niggle kept him out of a couple/few games, and didnt get back into the team, then when you know who left, and he was upset, Gunn never gave him the chance, when he was playing last season he was doing well, so we might as well use him, he can be quite good.

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Is that the O''Brien who came here a few years back with Newcastle in a pre season friendly and took us apart?

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the very same. signed for the robins today on a free. top signing by wilson, he must be spendiing that cox money already to have afforded him i would imagine!

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[quote user="Gingerpele"]Thing is, he was in decent form, then a little niggle kept him out of a couple/few games, and didnt get back into the team, then when you know who left, and he was upset, Gunn never gave him the chance, when he was playing last season he was doing well, so we might as well use him, he can be quite good.[/quote] Good call GP. If he was properly motivated, he''d be a match winner next season.

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Pattison is worth keeping IMHO. Everyone saying no, why do you think Korey Smith is up to it? He''s had one good game...

I''d have him for back-up at the most currently. He would benefit from dropping down another division for a season I think.

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We should definitely keep Fatty Patty & play him in the middle of the park or on the left flank. No matter how much we all want it, Hoolahan will be sold & play at a higher level. I think Fatty would be awesome in this league & was better than average in the Championship, its just a shame Gunn doesn''t seem willing to give him another shot!!

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He would be in my squad everytime if his head was right. Just the type of player we need and we are very short on wide players.

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What did he & Gunn fall out over? Did they actually ''fall out'' or does Gunn just not rate him?

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[quote user="Bexley"]What did he & Gunn fall out over? Did they actually ''fall out'' or does Gunn just not rate him?[/quote]Roeder

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thing is, bar a couple like Clingan and maybe Wes the players that got relegated last season got relegated for a reason... they''re not good enough. I don''t think Pattison offers enough to Norwich. for that matter neither does Russell. I think both will go. We cannot afford to have three senior left midfielders in the side and we can''t afford to have four senior central midfielders either... same goes for the strike force... (Curo needs to be moved on)That is why you bring in the youngsters, you have one or two seniors in a position and then a youngster to plug the gap. To me, i think Pattison needs to improve his positioning and his defending. I can''t believe people would play him in the centre after some of the performances he gave last year. I keep going on about this one particular game but it really showed Pattison''s weakness... Notts Forest at home. Two of their goals, Patty is walking as their players waltzes past him and onto a bal to score. Patty is an okay player but will prob be on highish wages - something we cannot afford to have in our squad. If you add to the fact that Lappin has signed a deal for two years i think the writing might very well be on the wall for our ginger saffa.

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[quote user="The Chirp"]where would you play him?

Through the middle? not likely.

On the left? Poss if hoolahan plays off a front man... but he''s woeful at tracking back...

Right mid? a possibility.

I would sell him if i was Gunn.

If neilson is like a kightly and we sign him and if mcveigh comes in as back up with korey smith there not to mention otsemobor, i think we have good cover for the right hand side.
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Stick him in goal, there''s not much likely to get past him![:P]

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just to add.. in this league especially you really need a top striker... to get one we need to have the money there to pay their wages. Look at Lambert and Huddersfield. The terriers are not happy at the wage demands... thing is, you need a 30 goals a season striker if you want to win this league.Getting the likes of Pattison off the wage bill and replacing him with youngsters, players like McVeigh on a pay as you play or players like Neilson who will ask for a low wage and could prove to be excellent, then gives you the extra money in the pot to afford a Lambert or a Dickinson. I personally think we could go in for Rickie, although the problem with him is his re sale value as he is late twenties... (Huddersfield also have issue with this)

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um... what do you mean try to accept this? am i in denial or something? haha it''s just my opinion that he might be a surprise signing that''s all. I don''t think it is a likely deal but i think a player of his calibre will get signed. we won''t get promoted without a 20-30 goals a season player in the side and goals over the past 3 seasons have been very hard to come by, so this needs to be seriously addressed. Lee is a Howard or Billy Painter type player, the one who causes a lot of problems foor opp defences allowing the top striker to get in. This needs to be a Lambert or a Dickinson or a Glen Murray (Brighton former Rochdale striker)Look at all three teams who went up last season;Leicester - Matty Fryatt 30 odd goals King 10 goals Howard 12-14 goalsScunthorpe - Hooper 20+ goals Hayes 20 goalsPeterborough - MaClean 20+ Mackail-Smith 20+ Boyd 15 odd goalsAny manager or coach in football will know that Norwich need to bolt on a decent striker who''ll score the goals. That is why i haven''t ''accepted'' that we won''t sign him as i think he is a possibility.

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