Crafty Canary 495 Posted June 25, 2009 Mr Foulger is entitled to do what he likes with his money. However as an incompetent member of the NCFC board he tells everyone he has £1.1M that he is ready to give to he club but tries to use that information to guilt-trip supporters into claiming their rebate. That way he makes himself look even more of a bufoon by not giving what he was prepared to give.As for the idiots on here who try to claim some bogus moral high ground about not claiming their rebates that is their right but it is also an equal right TO claim the rebate. If NCFC couldn''t afford the rebate why offer it in the first place? Answer? to get nearly 19000 ST holders to renew. If the rebate hadn''t been offered many more would most likely have waited to see what level we''d be playing at and when it became clear it was third division football may well not have renewed at all.This incompetent crap board wants its cake and to eat it too. Well two-thirds of its loyal support have now sent them a message, thank God!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crafty Canary 495 Posted June 25, 2009 Errata: into not claiming their rebate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herb 0 Posted June 25, 2009 [quote user="crafty canary"]Mr Foulger is entitled to do what he likes with his money. However as an incompetent member of the NCFC board he tells everyone he has £1.1M that he is ready to give to he club but tries to use that information to guilt-trip supporters into not claiming their rebate. [/quote]Another one using the "guilt trip" line....emotive spin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
|BA 0 Posted June 25, 2009 [quote user="Herb"][quote user="crafty canary"]Mr Foulger is entitled to do what he likes with his money. However as an incompetent member of the NCFC board he tells everyone he has £1.1M that he is ready to give to he club but tries to use that information to guilt-trip supporters into not claiming their rebate. [/quote]Another one using the "guilt trip" line....emotive spin.[/quote]Exactly. ZzzzSome people seem to have a very low ''Guilt'' threshold if that really pricked their conscience or believe that was the motive behind the offer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gingerpele 0 Posted June 25, 2009 I was thinking of this, i thought at the begining, why can''t he give this ammount anyway, if he has the money and is willing to give it (well he probably new he would not have to match 18,000 peoples rebate money).If he did this, the dispise of Delia and the rest of the board (who ever else there is) would be even greater, it would be all ''why can''t delia give another million or two''.Im not going to support her, as i think this club has not been run that well, but she has given a lot of her money up, she is a millionaire, but not a billionaire, like some people seem to think/would like her to be, im not sure on exact figures she has given either, but i belive it is quite a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USAcanary 0 Posted June 25, 2009 [quote user="Herb"][quote user="cityangel"][quote user="llamaman"]Why should foulger fork out more money, when 66% of our supporters didn''t....don''t be a hypocrite[/quote]Because he had already indicated that he had a million to spare.[/quote]No he didn''t, he pledged to match any unclaimed rebates. That does not mean he had "a million to spare" I very much doubt any prediction would have envisaged all supporters leaving their rebate unclaimed, 50% was probably a more realistic best case scenario.The sheer arrogance of people who had a chance to make a difference to our transfer budget but chose not to because of petty spite towards the (admittedly sub standard) board then lambasting Foulger for doing exactly what he pledged is astounding.You''ve got some front, you really have.[/quote]Exactly, 100% spot on.Its nothing but personal spite........ "message sent"............ for what purpose? What will it achieve? NOTHING. It won''t change a thing except........... reduce our chances of promotion by having a smaller playing budget.It''s strange that groups like NCISA and its supporters never even mention promotion. Do they even care?It seems they would actually be happy if Gunn failed and the club failed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,281 Posted June 25, 2009 [quote user="supercol"]What a pathetic post, wht should he commit more money out of his OWN pocket, when supporters clearly showed they are not preapred to.[/quote]18,500 supporters did.....and 66% claimed back - what was rightfully, theirs.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,722 Posted June 25, 2009 [quote user="USAcanary"][quote user="Herb"][quote user="cityangel"] [quote user="llamaman"]Why should foulger fork out more money, when 66% of our supporters didn''t....don''t be a hypocrite[/quote]Because he had already indicated that he had a million to spare.[/quote]No he didn''t, he pledged to match any unclaimed rebates. That does not mean he had "a million to spare" I very much doubt any prediction would have envisaged all supporters leaving their rebate unclaimed, 50% was probably a more realistic best case scenario.The sheer arrogance of people who had a chance to make a difference to our transfer budget but chose not to because of petty spite towards the (admittedly sub standard) board then lambasting Foulger for doing exactly what he pledged is astounding.You''ve got some front, you really have.[/quote]Exactly, 100% spot on.Its nothing but personal spite........ "message sent"............ for what purpose? What will it achieve? NOTHING. It won''t change a thing except........... reduce our chances of promotion by having a smaller playing budget.It''s strange that groups like NCISA and its supporters never even mention promotion. Do they even care?It seems they would actually be happy if Gunn failed and the club failed. [/quote]Since the formation of NCISA fourteen years ago in 1995 we have celebrated promotion once but now relegation three times(albeit once under the previous regime) and you claim we "never mention promotion".See a pattern developing do we?Yes, we do care about promotion and that is why at the last share issue we purchased a small number of shares and £1000 of prefernce B shares as well.Can you just give it a rest about NCISA as it rather boring and tedious.Your views about NCISA are well documented on here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USAcanary 0 Posted June 25, 2009 [quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="supercol"]What a pathetic post, wht should he commit more money out of his OWN pocket, when supporters clearly showed they are not preapred to.[/quote]18,500 supporters did.....and 66% claimed back - what was rightfully, theirs....[/quote]Ironically doesn''t the fact that 19,000+ have renewed their season tickets also send a message to the board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,281 Posted June 25, 2009 [quote user="USAcanary"][quote user="Mello Yello"] [quote user="supercol"]What a pathetic post, wht should he commit more money out of his OWN pocket, when supporters clearly showed they are not preapred to.[/quote]18,500 supporters did.....and 66% claimed back - what was rightfully, theirs....[/quote]Ironically doesn''t the fact that 19,000+ have renewed their season tickets also send a message to the board.[/quote]What? That we think that they''re doing a sterling job and have done so - since they took the helm?.....Polish it up as much as you like....then cover it in varnish....but don''t crack it when it''s hardened.....because it''ll still smell the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USAcanary 0 Posted June 25, 2009 [quote user="TIL 1010"][quote user="USAcanary"][quote user="Herb"][quote user="cityangel"] [quote user="llamaman"]Why should foulger fork out more money, when 66% of our supporters didn''t....don''t be a hypocrite[/quote]Because he had already indicated that he had a million to spare.[/quote]No he didn''t, he pledged to match any unclaimed rebates. That does not mean he had "a million to spare" I very much doubt any prediction would have envisaged all supporters leaving their rebate unclaimed, 50% was probably a more realistic best case scenario.The sheer arrogance of people who had a chance to make a difference to our transfer budget but chose not to because of petty spite towards the (admittedly sub standard) board then lambasting Foulger for doing exactly what he pledged is astounding.You''ve got some front, you really have.[/quote]Exactly, 100% spot on.Its nothing but personal spite........ "message sent"............ for what purpose? What will it achieve? NOTHING. It won''t change a thing except........... reduce our chances of promotion by having a smaller playing budget.It''s strange that groups like NCISA and its supporters never even mention promotion. Do they even care?It seems they would actually be happy if Gunn failed and the club failed. [/quote]Since the formation of NCISA fourteen years ago in 1995 we have celebrated promotion once but now relegation three times(albeit once under the previous regime) and you claim we "never mention promotion".See a pattern developing do we?Yes, we do care about promotion and that is why at the last share issue we purchased a small number of shares and £1000 of prefernce B shares as well.Can you just give it a rest about NCISA as it rather boring and tedious.Your views about NCISA are well documented on here.[/quote]It''s telling that you failed to mention if you would actually be happy if we achieved promotion!If you care about promotion then come up with ideas/campaigns/agendas that will help the club achieve that goal.The NCISA rebate press releases achieved nothing but making our first team budget smaller.How that is going to help our chances of promotion?Its no fluke that the teams with largest crowds/budgets in LG1 tend to be at the top of the table challenging for the playoffs.As already pointed out the average yearly transfer spend in LG 1 is around 250K. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WeAreYellows49 0 Posted June 25, 2009 [quote user="USAcanary"][quote user="Mello Yello"] [quote user="supercol"]What a pathetic post, wht should he commit more money out of his OWN pocket, when supporters clearly showed they are not preapred to.[/quote]18,500 supporters did.....and 66% claimed back - what was rightfully, theirs....[/quote]Ironically doesn''t the fact that 19,000+ have renewed their season tickets also send a message to the board.[/quote]Yes it says ''''you had better do better or you won''t see as many renew next season'''' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WeAreYellows49 0 Posted June 25, 2009 [quote user="USAcanary"][quote user="TIL 1010"][quote user="USAcanary"][quote user="Herb"][quote user="cityangel"] [quote user="llamaman"]Why should foulger fork out more money, when 66% of our supporters didn''t....don''t be a hypocrite[/quote]Because he had already indicated that he had a million to spare.[/quote]No he didn''t, he pledged to match any unclaimed rebates. That does not mean he had "a million to spare" I very much doubt any prediction would have envisaged all supporters leaving their rebate unclaimed, 50% was probably a more realistic best case scenario.The sheer arrogance of people who had a chance to make a difference to our transfer budget but chose not to because of petty spite towards the (admittedly sub standard) board then lambasting Foulger for doing exactly what he pledged is astounding.You''ve got some front, you really have.[/quote]Exactly, 100% spot on.Its nothing but personal spite........ "message sent"............ for what purpose? What will it achieve? NOTHING. It won''t change a thing except........... reduce our chances of promotion by having a smaller playing budget.It''s strange that groups like NCISA and its supporters never even mention promotion. Do they even care?It seems they would actually be happy if Gunn failed and the club failed. [/quote]Since the formation of NCISA fourteen years ago in 1995 we have celebrated promotion once but now relegation three times(albeit once under the previous regime) and you claim we "never mention promotion".See a pattern developing do we?Yes, we do care about promotion and that is why at the last share issue we purchased a small number of shares and £1000 of prefernce B shares as well.Can you just give it a rest about NCISA as it rather boring and tedious.Your views about NCISA are well documented on here.[/quote]It''s telling that you failed to mention if you would actually be happy if we achieved promotion!If you care about promotion then come up with ideas/campaigns/agendas that will help the club achieve that goal.The NCISA rebate press releases achieved nothing but making our first team budget smaller.How that is going to help our chances of promotion?Its no fluke that the teams with largest crowds/budgets in LG1 tend to be at the top of the table challenging for the playoffs.As already pointed out the average yearly transfer spend in LG 1 is around 250K. [/quote] Is that not what the board are supposed to do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
|BA 0 Posted June 25, 2009 There are people who support the club, and people who moan.Its the same at Man U, Barca, Real, Chelsea.....BarnetWe have our share of people who just love to moan and bitch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
|BA 0 Posted June 25, 2009 [quote user="WeAreYellows49"] Is that not what the board are supposed to do?[/quote]The very fact that nobody ever seems to come up with anything new seems to indicate that they are doing exactly that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USAcanary 0 Posted June 25, 2009 [quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="USAcanary"][quote user="Mello Yello"] [quote user="supercol"]What a pathetic post, wht should he commit more money out of his OWN pocket, when supporters clearly showed they are not preapred to.[/quote]18,500 supporters did.....and 66% claimed back - what was rightfully, theirs....[/quote]Ironically doesn''t the fact that 19,000+ have renewed their season tickets also send a message to the board.[/quote]What? That we think that they''re doing a sterling job and have done so - since they took the helm?.....Polish it up as much as you like....then cover it in varnish....but don''t crack it when it''s hardened.....because it''ll still smell the same.[/quote]The point is if claiming the rebate is seen as sending a "monatary message" to the board then so is renewing season tickets in incredible numbers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WeAreYellows49 0 Posted June 25, 2009 [quote user="BA"][quote user="WeAreYellows49"] Is that not what the board are supposed to do?[/quote]The very fact that nobody ever seems to come up with anything new seems to indicate that they are doing exactly that.[/quote]According to the board at the AGM they are clueless, even asked the shareholders for ideas. One thing I will give them credit for is the new CEO, he certainly seems to be sorting the wheat from the chaff, and boy is there a lot of chaff at the club. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LQ 0 Posted June 25, 2009 That''s because shareholders have a vested financial interest in the business in which they hold shares! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,281 Posted June 25, 2009 [8]"It''s a happ, happ, happy day...a £100+ rebate''s coming my way!"[8] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LQ 0 Posted June 25, 2009 Are you a shareholder Mello? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USAcanary 0 Posted June 25, 2009 [quote]There are people who support the club, and people who moan.Its the same at Man U, Barca, Real, Chelsea.....BarnetWe have our share of people who just love to moan and bitch[/quote]100% agree. We certainly have our share..........They hate the board, they hate the manager, they hate every player we sign, they even hate players we havn''t even signed yet! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WeAreYellows49 0 Posted June 25, 2009 [quote user="LQ"]That''s because shareholders have a vested financial interest in the business in which they hold shares![/quote]So the bigger question is, what have the shareholders done in coming up with ideas? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,281 Posted June 25, 2009 [quote user="USAcanary"][quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="USAcanary"][quote user="Mello Yello"] [quote user="supercol"]What a pathetic post, wht should he commit more money out of his OWN pocket, when supporters clearly showed they are not preapred to.[/quote]18,500 supporters did.....and 66% claimed back - what was rightfully, theirs....[/quote]Ironically doesn''t the fact that 19,000+ have renewed their season tickets also send a message to the board.[/quote]What? That we think that they''re doing a sterling job and have done so - since they took the helm?.....Polish it up as much as you like....then cover it in varnish....but don''t crack it when it''s hardened.....because it''ll still smell the same.[/quote]The point is if claiming the rebate is seen as sending a "monatary message" to the board then so is renewing season tickets in incredible numbers.[/quote]But they wanted ''both''.....an'' they ain''t getting both![8]"It''s a happ, happ, happy day...a £100+ rebate''s coming my way!" [8] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WeAreYellows49 0 Posted June 25, 2009 [quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="USAcanary"][quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="USAcanary"][quote user="Mello Yello"] [quote user="supercol"]What a pathetic post, wht should he commit more money out of his OWN pocket, when supporters clearly showed they are not preapred to.[/quote]18,500 supporters did.....and 66% claimed back - what was rightfully, theirs....[/quote]Ironically doesn''t the fact that 19,000+ have renewed their season tickets also send a message to the board.[/quote]What? That we think that they''re doing a sterling job and have done so - since they took the helm?.....Polish it up as much as you like....then cover it in varnish....but don''t crack it when it''s hardened.....because it''ll still smell the same.[/quote]The point is if claiming the rebate is seen as sending a "monatary message" to the board then so is renewing season tickets in incredible numbers.[/quote]But they wanted ''both''.....an'' they ain''t getting both![8]"It''s a happ, happ, happy day...a £100+ rebate''s coming my way!" [8] [/quote]LMFAO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,281 Posted June 25, 2009 [quote user="LQ"]Are you a shareholder Mello?[/quote]No, are you a Stepford NCFC supporter? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LQ 0 Posted June 25, 2009 [quote user="WeAreYellows49"][quote user="LQ"]That''s because shareholders have a vested financial interest in the business in which they hold shares![/quote]So the bigger question is, what have the shareholders done in coming up with ideas?[/quote]I take it that as you quote something that happened at the AGM you''re a shareholder?Isn''t it in your best interests to see the ''business'' succeed? I hate using the term ''business'' but as someone else compares our club to Marks & Sparks it seems that it''s ok! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LQ 0 Posted June 25, 2009 [quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="LQ"]Are you a shareholder Mello?[/quote]No, are you a Stepford NCFC supporter?[/quote]Ok, I thought you''d said you were in the past.Forget it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,281 Posted June 25, 2009 [quote user="USAcanary"] [quote]There are people who support the club, and people who moan.Its the same at Man U, Barca, Real, Chelsea.....BarnetWe have our share of people who just love to moan and bitch[/quote]100% agree. We certainly have our share..........They hate the board, they hate the manager, they hate every player we sign, they even hate players we havn''t even signed yet! [/quote]Yes, but I do love you....Are you hurting? Do you want a big hug? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,281 Posted June 25, 2009 [quote user="LQ"][quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="LQ"]Are you a shareholder Mello?[/quote]No, are you a Stepford NCFC supporter?[/quote]Ok, I thought you''d said you were in the past.Forget it.[/quote]Forget what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LQ 0 Posted June 25, 2009 [quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="LQ"][quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="LQ"]Are you a shareholder Mello?[/quote]No, are you a Stepford NCFC supporter?[/quote]Ok, I thought you''d said you were in the past.Forget it.[/quote]Forget what?[/quote]Boom tish! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
