|BA 0 Posted May 22, 2009 ....not the board. Noticed that?Dublin. Huckerby, Barham (apparently - not read it myself), Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bury Yellow 2 Posted May 22, 2009 Ah I see the light now! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellowbeagle 0 Posted May 22, 2009 The ex-players are right the current players are responsible for us going down just as the managers are responsible for bringing those players to the club and the board are responsible for bringing those managers to the club. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Carrow 376 Posted May 22, 2009 Yeah, football players are notoriously perceptive and intelligent aren`t they...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyJR 0 Posted May 22, 2009 Huck''s saw the light whilst still playing at Norwich when he said it was the weakest squad he had played in since joining Norwich. Right or wrong of him to say it at the time, no doubt be played with his heart on his sleeve and did''nt mind voicing his opinion. Weak squad or not he still gave his all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyJR 0 Posted May 22, 2009 [quote user="AndyJR"]Huck''s saw the light whilst still playing at Norwich when he said it was the weakest squad he had played in since joining Norwich. Right or wrong of him to say it at the time, no doubt be played with his heart on his sleeve and did''nt mind voicing his opinion. Weak squad or not he still gave his all.[/quote]In the same way, weak squad or not I will still be cheering them on come the start of the season. OTBC!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
|BA 0 Posted May 22, 2009 [quote user="AndyJR"] Weak squad or not he still gave his all.[/quote]....going forward......usually Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyJR 0 Posted May 22, 2009 ...going forward......usuallyThink they call it a winger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
|BA 0 Posted May 22, 2009 [quote user="Mr.Carrow"] Yeah, football players are notoriously perceptive and intelligent aren`t they......[/quote]Bit of a sweeping statement innit ?.........Some are....some aren''t.... The point is, dim or brilliant, they dont blame the board. Even Bell who was apoplectic at Roeders dismissal was complimentary about our great leaders.Remember when we got relegated and this board was full of idiots pointing at Saints and Charlton citing THATS how our club should be run....ROFL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Fish Seller 0 Posted May 22, 2009 [quote user="IBA"]Remember when we got relegated and this board was full of idiots pointing at Saints and Charlton citing THATS how our club should be run....[/quote]Call me Mr Pernickity but it was actually when we were promoted that the board first started citing the ''follow the Charlton model'' mantra, but I guess in your world that still doesn''t make them idiots, just the people who posted about it on here get that title not those who initiated and then implemented the starategy.[:|] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whoareyou? 0 Posted May 22, 2009 The buck always ends with the players because they are at the very sharp end. But the real problem is the continous appointment of crap managers, the ones who choose the players in the first place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaun Tilly Lace 0 Posted May 22, 2009 Yes, but who picks the players? That''s right, the manager. And remind me, who picks the manager? As most sensible, sane people could see the folly, at the outset, of selecting Grant, then Rodent and then Uncle Fester as manager, I think we can clearly deduce that there is something wrong with the board''s powers of decision-making. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
|BA 0 Posted May 22, 2009 [quote user="Pablos pubic perm"]Yes, but who picks the players? That''s right, the manager. And remind me, who picks the manager? As most sensible, sane people could see the folly, at the outset, of selecting Grant, then Rodent and then Uncle Fester as manager, I think we can clearly deduce that there is something wrong with the board''s powers of decision-making.[/quote]Yeah great train of thought.... lets blame their parents for ever giving birth shall we... burn every Smith in the country.....lynch mob mentality will never dieRubbish. grants appointment was cited as a coup throughout football, he continues to be a good coach, he just isn''t (yet) a manager. Nobody was to know that at the time. He was indeed a disasterroeder was a great choice (and of the options available at the time, the only viable choice) to do a specific job. He did it too. Remember the great escape euphoria? Didn''t see protests then.but now, with all the hindsight in the world at your disposal you blame the board..... coolWhy have none of the supposedly disgruntled and ''forced out'' players never stung the Board? I wonder.The players didn''t turn up often enough. Terminate more contracts .....send the loans back (as was done) make them earn the obscene money they get...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
can u sit down please 0 Posted May 22, 2009 Of course the ex players will blame the players! They still come back to the club and want to be welcomed! I think barham still does something around the place. Would you pi$$ off the people that paid you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaun Tilly Lace 0 Posted May 22, 2009 Try to keep up BA, I know it''s difficult, but the whole point is that a lot of City fans, myself included, thought that Rodent and Grant were wrong at the time of their appointments, and we said so, and we didn''t need the benefits of hindsight to make that judgment, it was just common sense. I would have been delighted to have been proved wrong by your far-sighted, inspirational board, but sadly history records a different story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rustys 1st Touch 0 Posted May 22, 2009 Yeah like the players are going to come out and have a go at the board who pay their wages. Footballers might not be the most intelligent but they aren''t stupid."Grants appointment was cited as coup throughout football" - not sure where you got that from, maybe it was from the NCFC board. Most other clubs would have been relieved that their potential rivals had gambled on a complete rookie instead of an experienced manager who may have instilled some ambition into the club.For what its worth I think the main mistake the board made was the sacking of Roeder. Particularly with no back up plan in place to appointed somebody better. For that they deserve to take a large proportion of the blame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boogle 0 Posted May 24, 2009 IBA you say no ex players have blamed the board but - No ex players ever came out and blamed Robert Chase either though did they.Players and ex managers etc will rarely, rarely speak out about a clubs board, look at all the clubs over the years, how often has it happened.Matt Le Tisser loves Southampton to bits yet never spoke out against the board.They dont want to piss on the bonfire as they know they probably wont be welcome back at Carrow Road or whatever club they were linked to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,509 Posted May 24, 2009 [quote user="Pablos pubic perm"]Try to keep up BA, I know it''s difficult, but the whole point is that a lot of City fans, myself included, thought that Rodent and Grant were wrong at the time of their appointments, and we said so, and we didn''t need the benefits of hindsight to make that judgment, it was just common sense. I would have been delighted to have been proved wrong by your far-sighted, inspirational board, but sadly history records a different story.[/quote]I think a lot of people thought Grant was right at the time of his appointment. However he was totally wrong. Nice guy and good coach by all accounts but within a year he took the team back 7 years. Which I''m afraid made Roeder the right appointment, because he came in and did his job, he got us safe. That was a massive achievement but he was incapable of building on it. So he was obviously the wrong man to take the club forward last season. It''s Gunns appointment this time around that beggars belief for me. He failed to turn it around and keep us up so nobody could say he deserved a chance next season like they could Roeder. Strange thing is I''d have been happy to give Butterworth and Crook a go, Butterworth knows the league and Crook was a popular choice with the fans although I''ve yet to see much evidence that his coaching has imporoved our play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites