JuanVelasco 27 Posted May 13, 2009 "MLS is a pub league", "MLS is Yarmouth standard", "MLS is blue square Premier". You are clearly clueless if you believe this. So lets look at some current MLS players:-Ade Akinbiyi (Houston Dynamo)Juan Pablo Angel (New York Red Bulls)David Beckham (Los Angeles Galaxy)Bobby Convey (San Jose Earthquakes)Landon Donovan (Los Angeles Galaxy)Darren Huckerby (San Jose Earthquakes)Kasey Keller (Seattle Sounders)Eddie Lewis (Los Angeles Galaxy)Freddie Ljunberg (Seattle Sounders FC)Claudio Lopez (Kansas City Wizards)Brian McBride (Chicago Fire)Jaime Moreno (D.C. United)Rohan Ricketts (Toronto FC)Carlos Marinelli (Kansas City Wizards)Gregg Berhalter (Los Angeles Galaxy)Albert Celades (New York Red Bulls)Danny Dichio (Toronto FC)Pablo Matroeni (Colorado Rapids)Clint Mathis (Real Salt Lake)Dave Van Der Bergh (FC Dallas)I will leave you with some quotes:-David Beckham has again defended the standard of MLS and insists people who dismiss LA Galaxy as a "pub team" know nothing about the game. "I don''t know whether it''s ignorance or snobbery or whether it''s that the people saying these things have never played the game or watched it being played here." (A player that is having more success in Italy than he is in the MLS!)Steve Morrow is a fierce defender of the standards of the MLS - "to put it very bluntly, I am sick and tired of hearing people say it''s no good" - and is adamant that after Championship football, playing in America was a step up. "The level is very good and if I had to compare, I''d say the top teams could survive in the Premiership without a problem," he said. "It is a good standard, and it doesn''t get the recognition it deserves in England."GOOD LUCK FINDING A SQUAD OF PLAYERS FROM LEAGUE ONE, TWO AND BLUE SQUARE THAT COULD BEAT THAT LOT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blofield Canary 11 Posted May 13, 2009 Beckham was paid severall million dollars to promote the MLS, hardly going to run it down is he. I''ve watched plenty of MLS last season to form my own opinion of the standard. Most sides had one or two decent players but the majority were certainly non league standard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACE 0 Posted May 13, 2009 But they are not all in one team though are they, so no league one team would ever play them.They are the players brought in on big money to improve the profile of the MLS, at the expense of the rest of the squad in some cases. The average wage of a player at LA Galaxy is 50 times less than Beckhams wage.Beckham etc have a vested interest in the MLS - it pays their wages, they are hardly going to say "I came over to play in an easy league for big money" are they?Huckerby - when he went over there, EVERYONE was calling it one last pay day for him, and dont deny thats what you thought as well!Why not watch MLS, lots of it, I have. It is nowhere near the standard of the English leagues. and the claim you quoted that any MLS team could survive the Premiership - its laughable.Celtic and Rangers - could they survive the Premiership - Im not 100% convinved, and no MLS team is close to either of those in terms of quality of player available.[quote user="ryan85k"]"MLS is a pub league", "MLS is Yarmouth standard", "MLS is blue square Premier". You are clearly clueless if you believe this. So lets look at some current MLS players:-Ade Akinbiyi (Houston Dynamo)Juan Pablo Angel (New York Red Bulls)David Beckham (Los Angeles Galaxy)Bobby Convey (San Jose Earthquakes)Landon Donovan (Los Angeles Galaxy)Darren Huckerby (San Jose Earthquakes)Kasey Keller (Seattle Sounders)Eddie Lewis (Los Angeles Galaxy)Freddie Ljunberg (Seattle Sounders FC)Claudio Lopez (Kansas City Wizards)Brian McBride (Chicago Fire)Jaime Moreno (D.C. United)Rohan Ricketts (Toronto FC)Carlos Marinelli (Kansas City Wizards)Gregg Berhalter (Los Angeles Galaxy)Albert Celades (New York Red Bulls)Danny Dichio (Toronto FC)Pablo Matroeni (Colorado Rapids)Clint Mathis (Real Salt Lake)Dave Van Der Bergh (FC Dallas)I will leave you with some quotes:-David Beckham has again defended the standard of MLS and insists people who dismiss LA Galaxy as a "pub team" know nothing about the game. "I don''t know whether it''s ignorance or snobbery or whether it''s that the people saying these things have never played the game or watched it being played here." (A player that is having more success in Italy than he is in the MLS!)Steve Morrow is a fierce defender of the standards of the MLS - "to put it very bluntly, I am sick and tired of hearing people say it''s no good" - and is adamant that after Championship football, playing in America was a step up. "The level is very good and if I had to compare, I''d say the top teams could survive in the Premiership without a problem," he said. "It is a good standard, and it doesn''t get the recognition it deserves in England."GOOD LUCK FINDING A SQUAD OF PLAYERS FROM LEAGUE ONE, TWO AND BLUE SQUARE THAT COULD BEAT THAT LOT.[/quote] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuanVelasco 27 Posted May 13, 2009 Come on then ACE, you want to argue about the standard of the MLS, why dont you argue with me, David Beckham and Steve Morrow?Find me a squad of League One, Two and Three players that could compete with that lot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ncfcrule 0 Posted May 13, 2009 thats like 20 players in the whole league that are decent, or were decent put are mostly past it now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuanVelasco 27 Posted May 13, 2009 [quote user="ACE"]But they are not all in one team though are they, so no league one team would ever play them.They are the players brought in on big money to improve the profile of the MLS, at the expense of the rest of the squad in some cases. The average wage of a player at LA Galaxy is 50 times less than Beckhams wage.Beckham etc have a vested interest in the MLS - it pays their wages, they are hardly going to say "I came over to play in an easy league for big money" are they?Huckerby - when he went over there, EVERYONE was calling it one last pay day for him, and dont deny thats what you thought as well!Why not watch MLS, lots of it, I have. It is nowhere near the standard of the English leagues. and the claim you quoted that any MLS team could survive the Premiership - its laughable.Celtic and Rangers - could they survive the Premiership - Im not 100% convinved, and no MLS team is close to either of those in terms of quality of player available.[quote user="ryan85k"]"MLS is a pub league", "MLS is Yarmouth standard", "MLS is blue square Premier". You are clearly clueless if you believe this. So lets look at some current MLS players:-Ade Akinbiyi (Houston Dynamo) Juan Pablo Angel (New York Red Bulls) David Beckham (Los Angeles Galaxy) Bobby Convey (San Jose Earthquakes) Landon Donovan (Los Angeles Galaxy) Darren Huckerby (San Jose Earthquakes) Kasey Keller (Seattle Sounders) Eddie Lewis (Los Angeles Galaxy) Freddie Ljunberg (Seattle Sounders FC) Claudio Lopez (Kansas City Wizards) Brian McBride (Chicago Fire) Jaime Moreno (D.C. United) Rohan Ricketts (Toronto FC) Carlos Marinelli (Kansas City Wizards) Gregg Berhalter (Los Angeles Galaxy) Albert Celades (New York Red Bulls) Danny Dichio (Toronto FC) Pablo Matroeni (Colorado Rapids) Clint Mathis (Real Salt Lake) Dave Van Der Bergh (FC Dallas)I will leave you with some quotes:-David Beckham has again defended the standard of MLS and insists people who dismiss LA Galaxy as a "pub team" know nothing about the game. "I don''t know whether it''s ignorance or snobbery or whether it''s that the people saying these things have never played the game or watched it being played here." (A player that is having more success in Italy than he is in the MLS!)Steve Morrow is a fierce defender of the standards of the MLS - "to put it very bluntly, I am sick and tired of hearing people say it''s no good" - and is adamant that after Championship football, playing in America was a step up. "The level is very good and if I had to compare, I''d say the top teams could survive in the Premiership without a problem," he said. "It is a good standard, and it doesn''t get the recognition it deserves in England."GOOD LUCK FINDING A SQUAD OF PLAYERS FROM LEAGUE ONE, TWO AND BLUE SQUARE THAT COULD BEAT THAT LOT.[/quote][/quote]I have watched plenty of it, thanks. I have also seen the USA national team play on several occassions and their team, mostly made up of MLS players, are pretty solid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACE 0 Posted May 13, 2009 Are you totally blinkered?THEY ARE PAID BY THE MLS TO PROMOTE THE MLS.The players you quote in your list are NOT IN THE SAME TEAM, so no league one team would EVER have to compete with them.Simple question - how many MLS games have you watched for 90 minutes in the last 12 months? I have watched at least 20. [quote user="ryan85k"]Come on then ACE, you want to argue about the standard of the MLS, why dont you argue with me, David Beckham and Steve Morrow?Find me a squad of League One, Two and Three players that could compete with that lot?[/quote] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuanVelasco 27 Posted May 13, 2009 [quote user="ncfcrule"]thats like 20 players in the whole league that are decent, or were decent put are mostly past it now[/quote]Yes and I am telling you lot to find me 20 players from every single league below the championship that can compete with that lot. And you cant can you? Do you think that Gary Doherty would be a hit in MLS? Do you think that Jamie Cureton would be a hit in the MLS? People seriously underestimate their leagues, its about the same as the championship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACE 0 Posted May 13, 2009 Oh and for the record,as apparently according to you the USA national team is full of MLS players, This was the squad for their last international. I count just 6 out of the 18 in that squad.You want to give upo your ludicorous arguement yet? 1 GK Tim Howard March 6, 1979 (1979-03-06) (age 30) 37 0 Everton 2 DF Frankie Hejduk August 5, 1974 (1974-08-05) (age 34) 84 7 Columbus Crew 3 DF Carlos Bocanegra May 25, 1979 (1979-05-25) (age 29) 65 10 Rennes 4 MF Pablo Mastroeni August 26, 1976 (1976-08-26) (age 32) 63 0 Colorado Rapids 5 DF Oguchi Onyewu May 13, 1982 (1982-05-13) (age 26) 40 5 Standard Liège 6 MF José Francisco Torres October 29, 1987 (1987-10-29) (age 21) 4 0 Pachuca 7 MF DaMarcus Beasley May 24, 1982 (1982-05-24) (age 26) 85 17 Rangers 8 FW Clint Dempsey March 9, 1983 (1983-03-09) (age 26) 49 13 Fulham 9 FW Eddie Johnson March 31, 1984 (1984-03-31) (age 25) 37 12 Fulham 10 FW Landon Donovan March 4, 1982 (1982-03-04) (age 27) 108 37 Los Angeles Galaxy 11 FW Brian Ching May 24, 1978 (1978-05-24) (age 30) 36 9 Houston Dynamo 12 MF Michael Bradley July 31, 1987 (1987-07-31) (age 21) 28 5 Borussia Mönchengladbach 13 MF Maurice Edu April 18, 1986 (1986-04-18) (age 23) 11 0 Rangers 14 DF Jay DeMerit December 4, 1979 (1979-12-04) (age 29) 9 0 Watford 15 DF Jonathan Bornstein November 7, 1984 (1984-11-07) (age 24) 14 1 Chivas USA 16 MF Sacha Kljestan September 9, 1985 (1985-09-09) (age 23) 16 3 Chivas USA 17 FW Jozy Altidore November 6, 1989 (1989-11-06) (age 19) 9 6 Xerez 18 GK Brad Guzan September 9, 1984 (1984-09-09) (age 24) 12 0 Aston Villa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuanVelasco 27 Posted May 13, 2009 [quote user="ACE"]Are you totally blinkered?THEY ARE PAID BY THE MLS TO PROMOTE THE MLS.The players you quote in your list are NOT IN THE SAME TEAM, so no league one team would EVER have to compete with them.Simple question - how many MLS games have you watched for 90 minutes in the last 12 months? I have watched at least 20. [quote user="ryan85k"]Come on then ACE, you want to argue about the standard of the MLS, why dont you argue with me, David Beckham and Steve Morrow?Find me a squad of League One, Two and Three players that could compete with that lot?[/quote][/quote]Sorry I obviously cant compete with your little book of ''football games I have watched''.I lived in America for a year very recently, so my question to you is...... how many MLS games have you watched live in your entire lifetime? Have you see Huckerby play for San Jose Earthquakes at an actual game? Have you got any friends that are currently playing in the MLS? No didnt think so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henry VIII 0 Posted May 13, 2009 [quote user="ryan85k"]"MLS is a pub league", "MLS is Yarmouth standard", "MLS is blue square Premier". You are clearly clueless if you believe this. So lets look at some current MLS players:-Ade Akinbiyi (Houston Dynamo)Juan Pablo Angel (New York Red Bulls)David Beckham (Los Angeles Galaxy)Bobby Convey (San Jose Earthquakes)Landon Donovan (Los Angeles Galaxy)Darren Huckerby (San Jose Earthquakes)Kasey Keller (Seattle Sounders)Eddie Lewis (Los Angeles Galaxy)Freddie Ljunberg (Seattle Sounders FC)Claudio Lopez (Kansas City Wizards)Brian McBride (Chicago Fire)Jaime Moreno (D.C. United)Rohan Ricketts (Toronto FC)Carlos Marinelli (Kansas City Wizards)Gregg Berhalter (Los Angeles Galaxy)Albert Celades (New York Red Bulls)Danny Dichio (Toronto FC)Pablo Matroeni (Colorado Rapids)Clint Mathis (Real Salt Lake)Dave Van Der Bergh (FC Dallas)I will leave you with some quotes:-David Beckham has again defended the standard of MLS and insists people who dismiss LA Galaxy as a "pub team" know nothing about the game. "I don''t know whether it''s ignorance or snobbery or whether it''s that the people saying these things have never played the game or watched it being played here." (A player that is having more success in Italy than he is in the MLS!)Steve Morrow is a fierce defender of the standards of the MLS - "to put it very bluntly, I am sick and tired of hearing people say it''s no good" - and is adamant that after Championship football, playing in America was a step up. "The level is very good and if I had to compare, I''d say the top teams could survive in the Premiership without a problem," he said. "It is a good standard, and it doesn''t get the recognition it deserves in England."GOOD LUCK FINDING A SQUAD OF PLAYERS FROM LEAGUE ONE, TWO AND BLUE SQUARE THAT COULD BEAT THAT LOT.[/quote]You lost me at Akinbiyi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACE 0 Posted May 13, 2009 What on earth has thisa post got to do with the quality of the MLS?You still have not responded to the fact you reckon "most" of the players in the US national soccer tam are from the MLs - which is actually utter rubbish.Get some facts or shut up.[quote user="ryan85k"][quote user="ACE"]Are you totally blinkered?THEY ARE PAID BY THE MLS TO PROMOTE THE MLS.The players you quote in your list are NOT IN THE SAME TEAM, so no league one team would EVER have to compete with them.Simple question - how many MLS games have you watched for 90 minutes in the last 12 months? I have watched at least 20. [quote user="ryan85k"]Come on then ACE, you want to argue about the standard of the MLS, why dont you argue with me, David Beckham and Steve Morrow?Find me a squad of League One, Two and Three players that could compete with that lot?[/quote][/quote]Sorry I obviously cant compete with your little book of ''football games I have watched''.I lived in America for a year very recently, so my question to you is...... how many MLS games have you watched live in your entire lifetime? Have you see Huckerby play for San Jose Earthquakes at an actual game? Have you got any friends that are currently playing in the MLS? No didnt think so. [/quote] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuanVelasco 27 Posted May 13, 2009 PlayerDoB (Age)CapsGoalsClubMost Recent Call-UpGoalkeepersJon BuschAugust 18, 1976 (1976-08-18) (age 32)10 Chicago Firev Sweden; January 24, 2009Troy PerkinsJuly 20, 1981 (1981-07-20) (age 27)10 Vålerengav Sweden; January 24, 2009Marcus HahnemannJune 15, 1972 (1972-06-15) (age 36)60 Readingv El Salvador; March 28, 2009DefendersCory GibbsJanuary 14, 1980 (1980-01-14) (age 29)190 Colorado Rapidsv Guatemala; November 19, 2008Clarence GoodsonMay 17, 1982 (1982-05-17) (age 26)20 Startv Guatemala; November 19, 2008Drew MoorJanuary 15, 1984 (1984-01-15) (age 25)50 FC Dallasv Guatemala; November 19, 2008Ugo IhemeluApril 3, 1983 (1983-04-03) (age 26)20 Colorado Rapidsv Sweden; January 24, 2009Michael ParkhurstJanuary 24, 1984 (1984-01-24) (age 25)50 Nordsjællandv Sweden; January 24, 2009Chris WingertJune 16, 1982 (1982-06-16) (age 26)10 Real Salt Lakev Sweden; January 24, 2009Marvell WynneMay 8, 1986 (1986-05-08) (age 22)20 Toronto FCv Mexico; February 11, 2009Danny CaliffMarch 17, 1980 (1980-03-17) (age 29)231 Midtjyllandv El Salvador; March 28, 2009Heath PearceAugust 13, 1984 (1984-08-13) (age 24)230 Hansa Rostockv El Salvador; March 28, 2009Jonathan SpectorMarch 1, 1986 (1986-03-01) (age 23)120 West Ham Unitedv El Salvador; March 28, 2009MidfieldersFreddy AduJune 2, 1989 (1989-06-02) (age 19)121 Monacov Guatemala; November, 19, 2008Brian CarrollJuly 20, 1981 (1981-07-20) (age 27)70 Columbus Crewv Sweden; January 24, 2009Eddie GavenOctober 25, 1986 (1986-10-25) (age 22)60 Columbus Crewv Sweden; January 24, 2009Robbie RogersMay 12, 1987 (1987-05-12) (age 21)10 Columbus Crewv Sweden; January 24, 2009John ThorringtonOctober 17, 1979 (1979-10-17) (age 29)40 Chicago Firev Sweden; January 24, 2009Ricardo ClarkFebruary 10, 1983 (1983-02-10) (age 26)181 Houston Dynamov Mexico; February 11, 2009ForwardsDavy ArnaudJune 22, 1980 (1980-06-22) (age 28)20 Kansas City Wizardsv Guatemala; November 19, 2008Conor CaseyJuly 25, 1981 (1981-07-25) (age 27)90 Colorado Rapidsv Guatemala; November 19, 2008Kenny CooperOctober 21, 1984 (1984-10-21) (age 24)42 FC Dallasv Sweden; January 24, 2009Charlie DaviesJune 25, 1986 (1986-06-25) (age 22)51 Hammarbyv Sweden; January 24, 2009Chris RolfeJanuary 17, 1983 (1983-01-17) (age 26)100 Chicago Firev Sweden; January 24, 2009 Thats every other player thats been called up to the USA Squad in the six months before that friendly, which you conveniently left off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuanVelasco 27 Posted May 13, 2009 [quote user="ACE"]What on earth has thisa post got to do with the quality of the MLS?You still have not responded to the fact you reckon "most" of the players in the US national soccer tam are from the MLs - which is actually utter rubbish.Get some facts or shut up.[quote user="ryan85k"][quote user="ACE"]Are you totally blinkered?THEY ARE PAID BY THE MLS TO PROMOTE THE MLS.The players you quote in your list are NOT IN THE SAME TEAM, so no league one team would EVER have to compete with them.Simple question - how many MLS games have you watched for 90 minutes in the last 12 months? I have watched at least 20. [quote user="ryan85k"] Come on then ACE, you want to argue about the standard of the MLS, why dont you argue with me, David Beckham and Steve Morrow?Find me a squad of League One, Two and Three players that could compete with that lot?[/quote][/quote]Sorry I obviously cant compete with your little book of ''football games I have watched''.I lived in America for a year very recently, so my question to you is...... how many MLS games have you watched live in your entire lifetime? Have you see Huckerby play for San Jose Earthquakes at an actual game? Have you got any friends that are currently playing in the MLS? No didnt think so. [/quote][/quote]Nothing, but you asked me how many games I have watched, and I made you look like a t*t. Why dont you answer my question? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACE 0 Posted May 13, 2009 Only SIX MLS players played in their last game FFS.That hardly backs up your claim the MLS is as good as the Championship!I dont know why Im arguing, anyone reading this who has a clue about footall knows you are talking utter rubbish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuanVelasco 27 Posted May 13, 2009 "Get some facts"Ace, you are using Wikipedia. Enough said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACE 0 Posted May 13, 2009 I have watched no MLS games live - only on the TV.How is it relevant where I watch a game? I have never watched Barcelona live, but I know from the TV that they are pretty good. [quote user="ryan85k"][quote user="ACE"]What on earth has thisa post got to do with the quality of the MLS?You still have not responded to the fact you reckon "most" of the players in the US national soccer tam are from the MLs - which is actually utter rubbish.Get some facts or shut up.[quote user="ryan85k"][quote user="ACE"]Are you totally blinkered?THEY ARE PAID BY THE MLS TO PROMOTE THE MLS.The players you quote in your list are NOT IN THE SAME TEAM, so no league one team would EVER have to compete with them.Simple question - how many MLS games have you watched for 90 minutes in the last 12 months? I have watched at least 20. [quote user="ryan85k"] Come on then ACE, you want to argue about the standard of the MLS, why dont you argue with me, David Beckham and Steve Morrow?Find me a squad of League One, Two and Three players that could compete with that lot?[/quote][/quote]Sorry I obviously cant compete with your little book of ''football games I have watched''.I lived in America for a year very recently, so my question to you is...... how many MLS games have you watched live in your entire lifetime? Have you see Huckerby play for San Jose Earthquakes at an actual game? Have you got any friends that are currently playing in the MLS? No didnt think so. [/quote][/quote]Nothing, but you asked me how many games I have watched, and I made you look like a t*t. Why dont you answer my question? [/quote] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACE 0 Posted May 13, 2009 So that squad was fiction then?[quote user="ryan85k"]"Get some facts"Ace, you are using Wikipedia. Enough said.[/quote] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuanVelasco 27 Posted May 13, 2009 [quote user="ACE"]Only SIX MLS players played in their last game FFS.That hardly backs up your claim the MLS is as good as the Championship!I dont know why Im arguing, anyone reading this who has a clue about footall knows you are talking utter rubbish.[/quote]How many of those have at some stage played in the MLS?Most of the Brazil team plays in Europe, does that make the Brazilian league sh*t? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuanVelasco 27 Posted May 13, 2009 [quote user="ACE"]So that squad was fiction then?[quote user="ryan85k"]"Get some facts"Ace, you are using Wikipedia. Enough said.[/quote][/quote]No, was my list of every other player to play against the USA in the six months prior fiction?You can cut and paste and twist all you like, but your still the biggest w*nker on this board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACE 0 Posted May 13, 2009 I dont even understand the point you are desperately trying to make.You claim the MLS is good, nobody has yet agreed with you.You claim the majority of the US team is from the MLS - proven cobblers.You claim that watching a game live is relevant to the discussion about the quality of the league - its totally irrelevant.You reel off a list of european players - a handful spread across lots of teams and hundreds of players - then say "well you wouldnt want to play that lot" - again - totally irrrelevant.Is there anyone out there who agrees with this clown that the MLS is of the same standard of football and player quality across the board as the English League One?[quote user="ryan85k"][quote user="ACE"]Only SIX MLS players played in their last game FFS.That hardly backs up your claim the MLS is as good as the Championship!I dont know why Im arguing, anyone reading this who has a clue about footall knows you are talking utter rubbish.[/quote]How many of those have at some stage played in the MLS?Most of the Brazil team plays in Europe, does that make the Brazilian league sh*t? [/quote] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACE 0 Posted May 13, 2009 You are only resorting to name calling because you have lost every point.Counting EVERY PLAYER IN THE PAST SIX MONTHS - I make it about 50/50 are MLS - explain how that equates to "most" please.[quote user="ryan85k"][quote user="ACE"]So that squad was fiction then?[quote user="ryan85k"]"Get some facts"Ace, you are using Wikipedia. Enough said.[/quote][/quote]No, was my list of every other player to play against the USA in the six months prior fiction?You can cut and paste and twist all you like, but your still the biggest w*nker on this board.[/quote] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuanVelasco 27 Posted May 13, 2009 [quote user="ACE"]I dont even understand the point you are desperately trying to make.You claim the MLS is good, nobody has yet agreed with you.You claim the majority of the US team is from the MLS - proven cobblers.You claim that watching a game live is relevant to the discussion about the quality of the league - its totally irrelevant.You reel off a list of european players - a handful spread across lots of teams and hundreds of players - then say "well you wouldnt want to play that lot" - again - totally irrrelevant.Is there anyone out there who agrees with this clown that the MLS is of the same standard of football and player quality across the board as the English League One?[quote user="ryan85k"][quote user="ACE"]Only SIX MLS players played in their last game FFS.That hardly backs up your claim the MLS is as good as the Championship!I dont know why Im arguing, anyone reading this who has a clue about footall knows you are talking utter rubbish.[/quote]How many of those have at some stage played in the MLS?Most of the Brazil team plays in Europe, does that make the Brazilian league sh*t? [/quote][/quote] Get back on the Huckerby thread where everybody is calling you a t*t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuanVelasco 27 Posted May 13, 2009 [quote user="ACE"]You are only resorting to name calling because you have lost every point.Counting EVERY PLAYER IN THE PAST SIX MONTHS - I make it about 50/50 are MLS - explain how that equates to "most" please.[quote user="ryan85k"][quote user="ACE"]So that squad was fiction then?[quote user="ryan85k"] "Get some facts"Ace, you are using Wikipedia. Enough said.[/quote][/quote]No, was my list of every other player to play against the USA in the six months prior fiction?You can cut and paste and twist all you like, but your still the biggest w*nker on this board.[/quote][/quote]YAWN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary_on_the Trent 0 Posted May 13, 2009 most of them are has beens or rejects Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACE 0 Posted May 13, 2009 Given up debating on your thread here then as you have been made to look utterly incompetent.Still nobody agreeing that the overall quality of the MLS is league one standard....[quote user="ryan85k"][quote user="ACE"]I dont even understand the point you are desperately trying to make.You claim the MLS is good, nobody has yet agreed with you.You claim the majority of the US team is from the MLS - proven cobblers.You claim that watching a game live is relevant to the discussion about the quality of the league - its totally irrelevant.You reel off a list of european players - a handful spread across lots of teams and hundreds of players - then say "well you wouldnt want to play that lot" - again - totally irrrelevant.Is there anyone out there who agrees with this clown that the MLS is of the same standard of football and player quality across the board as the English League One?[quote user="ryan85k"][quote user="ACE"]Only SIX MLS players played in their last game FFS.That hardly backs up your claim the MLS is as good as the Championship!I dont know why Im arguing, anyone reading this who has a clue about footall knows you are talking utter rubbish.[/quote]How many of those have at some stage played in the MLS?Most of the Brazil team plays in Europe, does that make the Brazilian league sh*t? [/quote][/quote] Get back on the Huckerby thread where everybody is calling you a t*t. [/quote] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuanVelasco 27 Posted May 13, 2009 [quote user="ACE"]Given up debating on your thread here then as you have been made to look utterly incompetent.Still nobody agreeing that the overall quality of the MLS is league one standard....[quote user="ryan85k"][quote user="ACE"]I dont even understand the point you are desperately trying to make.You claim the MLS is good, nobody has yet agreed with you.You claim the majority of the US team is from the MLS - proven cobblers.You claim that watching a game live is relevant to the discussion about the quality of the league - its totally irrelevant.You reel off a list of european players - a handful spread across lots of teams and hundreds of players - then say "well you wouldnt want to play that lot" - again - totally irrrelevant.Is there anyone out there who agrees with this clown that the MLS is of the same standard of football and player quality across the board as the English League One?[quote user="ryan85k"] [quote user="ACE"]Only SIX MLS players played in their last game FFS.That hardly backs up your claim the MLS is as good as the Championship!I dont know why Im arguing, anyone reading this who has a clue about footall knows you are talking utter rubbish.[/quote]How many of those have at some stage played in the MLS?Most of the Brazil team plays in Europe, does that make the Brazilian league sh*t? [/quote][/quote] Get back on the Huckerby thread where everybody is calling you a t*t. [/quote][/quote]Yes, or maybe you have bored me sh*tless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
missing in action? 0 Posted May 13, 2009 [quote user="ryan85k"]"MLS is a pub league", "MLS is Yarmouth standard", "MLS is blue square Premier". You are clearly clueless if you believe this. So lets look at some current MLS players:-Ade Akinbiyi (Houston Dynamo) 34 years oldJuan Pablo Angel (New York Red Bulls) 33 years old David Beckham (Los Angeles Galaxy) 33 years oldBobby Convey (San Jose Earthquakes) 25 years old Landon Donovan (Los Angeles Galaxy) 27 years old Darren Huckerby (San Jose Earthquakes) 32/33? years oldKasey Keller (Seattle Sounders) 39 year old Eddie Lewis (Los Angeles Galaxy) 34 year old Freddie Ljunberg (Seattle Sounders FC) 32 years old Claudio Lopez (Kansas City Wizards) 34 years old Brian McBride (Chicago Fire) 35 years old Jaime Moreno (D.C. United) 35 years old Rohan Ricketts (Toronto FC) 26 years old Carlos Marinelli (Kansas City Wizards) 27 years old Gregg Berhalter (Los Angeles Galaxy) 35 years old Albert Celades (New York Red Bulls) 33 years old Danny Dichio (Toronto FC) 34 years old Pablo Matroeni (Colorado Rapids) 32 years old Clint Mathis (Real Salt Lake) 32 years old Dave Van Der Bergh (FC Dallas) 33 years old I will leave you with some quotes:-David Beckham has again defended the standard of MLS and insists people who dismiss LA Galaxy as a "pub team" know nothing about the game. "I don''t know whether it''s ignorance or snobbery or whether it''s that the people saying these things have never played the game or watched it being played here." (A player that is having more success in Italy than he is in the MLS!)Steve Morrow is a fierce defender of the standards of the MLS - "to put it very bluntly, I am sick and tired of hearing people say it''s no good" - and is adamant that after Championship football, playing in America was a step up. "The level is very good and if I had to compare, I''d say the top teams could survive in the Premiership without a problem," he said. "It is a good standard, and it doesn''t get the recognition it deserves in England."GOOD LUCK FINDING A SQUAD OF PLAYERS FROM LEAGUE ONE, TWO AND BLUE SQUARE THAT COULD BEAT THAT LOT.[/quote]16 of those players are over 31 years old....Ljungberg is being paid $5m a season.beckham even more.the rest are there for paydays as well in a pisspot league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
missing in action? 0 Posted May 13, 2009 [quote user="ryan85k"][quote user="ACE"]Only SIX MLS players played in their last game FFS.That hardly backs up your claim the MLS is as good as the Championship!I dont know why Im arguing, anyone reading this who has a clue about footall knows you are talking utter rubbish.[/quote]How many of those have at some stage played in the MLS?Most of the Brazil team plays in Europe, does that make the Brazilian league sh*t? [/quote]yes it doesevery good player from brazil tries to make it in europe, the actual quality of the brazillian league isnt that great. the brazilians as players are good, but the league is poor because the quality leaves brazil. why do they leave brazil? career prospects, better challenges and finances of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
@NYCANARIES 0 Posted May 13, 2009 Ryan 85k.I live here in the states and watch the MLS. It''s a league of old men and young inexperienced college leavers, BUT there are a lot of good players from South America who are not able to play in Europe due to international clearance. Fredy Montero of Seattle would not look out of place in the Premier League. Overall the football is League One. However, some teams are much better than others.Montero can be found here...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCZigiXFnbU Share this post Link to post Share on other sites