Arthur Whittle 0 Posted May 5, 2009 [quote user="TIL 1010"][quote user="TIL 1010"] [quote user="First Wizard"]If it in anyway supports Gunn, then that in itself will just confirm my opinions on this group.[/quote]You really are an idiot and in a few minutes time will look an even bigger fool.[/quote]Oh and with regard to the second paragraph in my first post about a public meeting you and your mate Arthur W had better start coming up with excuses for your non attendance.[/quote]I don''t have to explain anything to you John T. As for your statement,well i liked it alot and at last your group has found some Balls. Well done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arthur Whittle 0 Posted May 5, 2009 [quote user="TIL 1010"][quote user="TIL 1010"] [quote user="First Wizard"]If it in anyway supports Gunn, then that in itself will just confirm my opinions on this group.[/quote]You really are an idiot and in a few minutes time will look an even bigger fool.[/quote]Oh and with regard to the second paragraph in my first post about a public meeting you and your mate Arthur W had better start coming up with excuses for your non attendance.[/quote]Refer to my protest thread if you want to know about my non attendance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Holt 522 Posted May 5, 2009 What statement? Have I missed something here? Sorry for being an idiot.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wizard 0 Posted May 6, 2009 [quote user="TIL 1010"][quote user="TIL 1010"] [quote user="First Wizard"]If it in anyway supports Gunn, then that in itself will just confirm my opinions on this group.[/quote]You really are an idiot and in a few minutes time will look an even bigger fool.[/quote]Oh and with regard to the second paragraph in my first post about a public meeting you and your mate Arthur W had better start coming up with excuses for your non attendance.[/quote]Understand this Mr T:If NCISA held a forum in my lounge, I would not attend!I believe NCISA was formed during the Chase Out days, and since those heady days our club has lurched from crises to crises, and NCISA has done what to stop that?................exactly, nothing!Chase was removed, imo, by huge, unorganised, spontanious demostrations, likewise with the Worthy Out campaign, this was organised and kicked off by two very committed individuals..........Not NCISA.And you, in a fit of pure arrogance, think I need an excuse for not attending NCISA events...............Jeez![:S] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,738 Posted May 6, 2009 [quote user="First Wizard"][quote user="TIL 1010"][quote user="TIL 1010"] [quote user="First Wizard"]If it in anyway supports Gunn, then that in itself will just confirm my opinions on this group.[/quote]You really are an idiot and in a few minutes time will look an even bigger fool.[/quote]Oh and with regard to the second paragraph in my first post about a public meeting you and your mate Arthur W had better start coming up with excuses for your non attendance.[/quote]Understand this Mr T:If NCISA held a forum in my lounge, I would not attend!I believe NCISA was formed during the Chase Out days, and since those heady days our club has lurched from crises to crises, and NCISA has done what to stop that?................exactly, nothing!Chase was removed, imo, by huge, unorganised, spontanious demostrations, likewise with the Worthy Out campaign, this was organised and kicked off by two very committed individuals..........Not NCISA.And you, in a fit of pure arrogance, think I need an excuse for not attending NCISA events...............Jeez![:S][/quote] Who organised and paid for the St Andrews Hall meeting at a cost of over £400 in the Worthington days?Who organised a forum as recently as this March so fans could question Doncaster and Munby?Who were there in large numbers outside the ground boycotting games during the Chase regime?I do not expect you to answer as you were not there but i am sure you will give it a good go.You amaze me that you want nothing to do with NCISA and do not have anytime for me but at every opportunity when we are mentioned on this messageboard or have a thread you are around like a bad smell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wizard 0 Posted May 6, 2009 [quote user="TIL 1010"][quote user="First Wizard"][quote user="TIL 1010"][quote user="TIL 1010"] [quote user="First Wizard"]If it in anyway supports Gunn, then that in itself will just confirm my opinions on this group.[/quote]You really are an idiot and in a few minutes time will look an even bigger fool.[/quote]Oh and with regard to the second paragraph in my first post about a public meeting you and your mate Arthur W had better start coming up with excuses for your non attendance.[/quote]Understand this Mr T:If NCISA held a forum in my lounge, I would not attend!I believe NCISA was formed during the Chase Out days, and since those heady days our club has lurched from crises to crises, and NCISA has done what to stop that?................exactly, nothing!Chase was removed, imo, by huge, unorganised, spontanious demostrations, likewise with the Worthy Out campaign, this was organised and kicked off by two very committed individuals..........Not NCISA.And you, in a fit of pure arrogance, think I need an excuse for not attending NCISA events...............Jeez![:S][/quote] Who organised and paid for the St Andrews Hall meeting at a cost of over £400 in the Worthington days?Who organised a forum as recently as this March so fans could question Doncaster and Munby?Who were there in large numbers outside the ground boycotting games during the Chase regime?I do not expect you to answer as you were not there but i am sure you will give it a good go.You amaze me that you want nothing to do with NCISA and do not have anytime for me but at every opportunity when we are mentioned on this messageboard or have a thread you are around like a bad smell.[/quote]Couldn''t resist the last tag could you Mr T?.I accept NCISA did some of those thing you said, but, the protest march and the 4-1, televised defeat against Burnley did for Worthy in the end, not NCISA actions.The Chase days, imo, were more spontanious then NCISA led, I know, I was there, especially that snowy Boxing Day protest after the Southend defeat.And the March forum certainly achieved its aims.......didn''t it?[:|]I concede, after reflection, that the recent NCISA statement, is at least, an effort to come off the fence at last, sadly, I think it two years too late! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gazzathegreat 0 Posted May 6, 2009 I am sorry Wiz, but can you explain to me what you want. You call for people to display direct action, go and protest etc, but then say the Worthy Out protests had no influence over the eventual decision to sack Worthington? Maybe results were the reason, they probably were but fans who didn''t agree with him staying surely had every right to vent their feelings, as they indeed do now. Whether we do so or not is down to us. NCISA hold a forum so anyone can come and question the board. What more can they do? You and I had a chance to ask questions. You and I had a chance to join protests. I would have to add that there are a large group of supporters who are looking for someone to start to challenge the board over their policies (past and present). NCISA may not be the ideal vehicle for this, but at present it''s probably all we have. If and when a meeting is arranged I am more than happy to meet you at Lowestoft and escort you to the meeting, can''t say fairer than that can I? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inch High aka Inchy.. 405 Posted May 6, 2009 Offer us an alternative plan of action then Wiz. Albiet after the horse has bolted at least now the NCISA are stepping up to the plate where as I see as usual you are offering no alternative.And don''t spin me your "my wallet is closed to the club" line because in 35 years of attending Carrow road I have never made a single purchase from the club shop but they don''t seem to have noticed that any more than your missing money.Go on Wiz what should we all do seeing how in the last few days all the different factions seem to be starting to pull in the same direction, what''s your plan of action. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wizard 0 Posted May 6, 2009 gazzathegreat said: I am sorry Wiz, but can you explain to me what you want. You call for people to display direct action, go and protest etc, but then say the Worthy Out protests had no influence over the eventual decision to sack Worthington? Maybe results were the reason, they probably were but fans who didn''t agree with him staying surely had every right to vent their feelings, as they indeed do now. Whether we do so or not is down to us. NCISA hold a forum so anyone can come and question the board. What more can they do? You and I had a chance to ask questions. You and I had a chance to join protests. I would have to add that there are a large group of supporters who are looking for someone to start to challenge the board over their policies (past and present). NCISA may not be the ideal vehicle for this, but at present it''s probably all we have. If and when a meeting is arranged I am more than happy to meet you at Lowestoft and escort you to the meeting, can''t say fairer than that can I?Hi gazza:I''m not sure I said that, the two guys who first set up the Worthy Out'' site, also, organised a lot of other actions, neither, to my knowledge, are/were NCISA members.......but I may be wrong on that last point.Secondly, a very fair and kind offer, thank you, but as I''ve already said to Mr Tilson, it gets my back up that NCISA can''t or won''t accept that I don''t wish to attend their meetings, however much their kind offers to do so are, and further to that, failure to atend said meeting, makes me a lesser supporter in their eyes.As a City fan, I believe them to be toothless, sorry, but thats my position on this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wizard 0 Posted May 6, 2009 [quote user="IncH_HigH"]Offer us an alternative plan of action then Wiz. Albiet after the horse has bolted at least now the NCISA are stepping up to the plate where as I see as usual you are offering no alternative.And don''t spin me your "my wallet is closed to the club" line because in 35 years of attending Carrow road I have never made a single purchase from the club shop but they don''t seem to have noticed that any more than your missing money.Go on Wiz what should we all do seeing how in the last few days all the different factions seem to be starting to pull in the same direction, what''s your plan of action. [/quote]The damage was done when 18.000 fans renewed their season tickets IH, you know my views on that. Only shareholder groups can affect the changes needed now.Wrong messages were sent to the board..........and now, I believe, they''ve stopped listening full stop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ca 1 Posted May 6, 2009 Looking forward then Wizard what action do you think us fans should take now?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inch High aka Inchy.. 405 Posted May 6, 2009 And then it all went quiet.[;)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wizard 0 Posted May 6, 2009 [quote user="cityangel"]Looking forward then Wizard what action do you think us fans should take now??[/quote]All too late now Angel, ST renewal deadline was the time for action...........or inaction I should say...........the fans blew it bigtime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smudger 0 Posted May 6, 2009 Really WIZ, if I do not mind NCISA coming in a couple of years too late then why should you?It is the only recognised vehcile that we have to start putting some pressure on the board.I am fully behind them, even though I would of liked to fo seen them act a lot sooner.Hopefully (unlike those in our boardroom), those at NCISA have learnt certain lessons over the last few years.Maybe they might just become a bit more radical?They can of course only do that if more radical fans are prepared to join them.. kind of chicken and egg really! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wizard 0 Posted May 6, 2009 [quote user="Smudger"]Really WIZ, if I do not mind NCISA coming in a couple of years too late then why should you?It is the only recognised vehcile that we have to start putting some pressure on the board.I am fully behind them, even though I would of liked to fo seen them act a lot sooner.Hopefully (unlike those in our boardroom), those at NCISA have learnt certain lessons over the last few years.Maybe they might just become a bit more radical?They can of course only do that if more radical fans are prepared to join them.. kind of chicken and egg really![/quote]Where do I sign up then fella? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smudger 0 Posted May 6, 2009 [quote user="First Wizard"][quote user="Smudger"] Really WIZ, if I do not mind NCISA coming in a couple of years too late then why should you?It is the only recognised vehcile that we have to start putting some pressure on the board.I am fully behind them, even though I would of liked to fo seen them act a lot sooner.Hopefully (unlike those in our boardroom), those at NCISA have learnt certain lessons over the last few years.Maybe they might just become a bit more radical?They can of course only do that if more radical fans are prepared to join them.. kind of chicken and egg really![/quote]Where do I sign up then fella? [/quote]Not sure... I think the website (possibly) or alternatively just turn up at their next meeting (I hear that they are looking to have a big one sometime over the summer) and pay the £2 annual charge or £5 for 3 years I think it is?Maybe Gazza, Kathy or somebody else on the committee could confirm??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wazzock 902 Posted May 6, 2009 [quote user="First Wizard"][quote user="TIL 1010"][quote user="First Wizard"][quote user="TIL 1010"][quote user="TIL 1010"] [quote user="First Wizard"]If it in anyway supports Gunn, then that in itself will just confirm my opinions on this group.[/quote]You really are an idiot and in a few minutes time will look an even bigger fool.[/quote]Oh and with regard to the second paragraph in my first post about a public meeting you and your mate Arthur W had better start coming up with excuses for your non attendance.[/quote]Understand this Mr T:If NCISA held a forum in my lounge, I would not attend!I believe NCISA was formed during the Chase Out days, and since those heady days our club has lurched from crises to crises, and NCISA has done what to stop that?................exactly, nothing!Chase was removed, imo, by huge, unorganised, spontanious demostrations, likewise with the Worthy Out campaign, this was organised and kicked off by two very committed individuals..........Not NCISA.And you, in a fit of pure arrogance, think I need an excuse for not attending NCISA events...............Jeez![:S][/quote] Who organised and paid for the St Andrews Hall meeting at a cost of over £400 in the Worthington days?Who organised a forum as recently as this March so fans could question Doncaster and Munby?Who were there in large numbers outside the ground boycotting games during the Chase regime?I do not expect you to answer as you were not there but i am sure you will give it a good go.You amaze me that you want nothing to do with NCISA and do not have anytime for me but at every opportunity when we are mentioned on this messageboard or have a thread you are around like a bad smell.[/quote]Couldn''t resist the last tag could you Mr T?.I accept NCISA did some of those thing you said, but, the protest march and the 4-1, televised defeat against Burnley did for Worthy in the end, not NCISA actions.The Chase days, imo, were more spontanious then NCISA led, I know, I was there, especially that snowy Boxing Day protest after the Southend defeat.And the March forum certainly achieved its aims.......didn''t it?[:|]I concede, after reflection, that the recent NCISA statement, is at least, an effort to come off the fence at last, sadly, I think it two years too late![/quote]This is the legendary ''going hoof to wheel'' that dear old Arrdee was always talking about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First Wizard 0 Posted May 6, 2009 [quote user="1st Wazzock"][quote user="First Wizard"][quote user="TIL 1010"][quote user="First Wizard"][quote user="TIL 1010"][quote user="TIL 1010"] [quote user="First Wizard"]If it in anyway supports Gunn, then that in itself will just confirm my opinions on this group.[/quote]You really are an idiot and in a few minutes time will look an even bigger fool.[/quote]Oh and with regard to the second paragraph in my first post about a public meeting you and your mate Arthur W had better start coming up with excuses for your non attendance.[/quote]Understand this Mr T:If NCISA held a forum in my lounge, I would not attend!I believe NCISA was formed during the Chase Out days, and since those heady days our club has lurched from crises to crises, and NCISA has done what to stop that?................exactly, nothing!Chase was removed, imo, by huge, unorganised, spontanious demostrations, likewise with the Worthy Out campaign, this was organised and kicked off by two very committed individuals..........Not NCISA.And you, in a fit of pure arrogance, think I need an excuse for not attending NCISA events...............Jeez![:S][/quote] Who organised and paid for the St Andrews Hall meeting at a cost of over £400 in the Worthington days?Who organised a forum as recently as this March so fans could question Doncaster and Munby?Who were there in large numbers outside the ground boycotting games during the Chase regime?I do not expect you to answer as you were not there but i am sure you will give it a good go.You amaze me that you want nothing to do with NCISA and do not have anytime for me but at every opportunity when we are mentioned on this messageboard or have a thread you are around like a bad smell.[/quote]Couldn''t resist the last tag could you Mr T?.I accept NCISA did some of those thing you said, but, the protest march and the 4-1, televised defeat against Burnley did for Worthy in the end, not NCISA actions.The Chase days, imo, were more spontanious then NCISA led, I know, I was there, especially that snowy Boxing Day protest after the Southend defeat.And the March forum certainly achieved its aims.......didn''t it?[:|]I concede, after reflection, that the recent NCISA statement, is at least, an effort to come off the fence at last, sadly, I think it two years too late![/quote]This is the legendary ''going hoof to wheel'' that dear old Arrdee was always talking about. [/quote]God, we miss that guy.[:(] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,738 Posted May 6, 2009 [quote user="First Wizard"][quote user="Smudger"] Really WIZ, if I do not mind NCISA coming in a couple of years too late then why should you?It is the only recognised vehcile that we have to start putting some pressure on the board.I am fully behind them, even though I would of liked to fo seen them act a lot sooner.Hopefully (unlike those in our boardroom), those at NCISA have learnt certain lessons over the last few years.Maybe they might just become a bit more radical?They can of course only do that if more radical fans are prepared to join them.. kind of chicken and egg really![/quote]Where do I sign up then fella? [/quote]Go to the NCISA website Wiz and you can download a membership form and post it off to the membership secretary Clare Williamson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blahblahblah 2 Posted May 6, 2009 [quote user="TIL 1010"][quote user="First Wizard"][quote user="Smudger"] Really WIZ, if I do not mind NCISA coming in a couple of years too late then why should you?It is the only recognised vehcile that we have to start putting some pressure on the board.I am fully behind them, even though I would of liked to fo seen them act a lot sooner.Hopefully (unlike those in our boardroom), those at NCISA have learnt certain lessons over the last few years.Maybe they might just become a bit more radical?They can of course only do that if more radical fans are prepared to join them.. kind of chicken and egg really![/quote]Where do I sign up then fella? [/quote]Go to the NCISA website Wiz and you can download a membership form and post it off to the membership secretary Clare Williamson.[/quote]He will decline saying that unless you pay for the stamp, he can''t be involved... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smudger 0 Posted May 6, 2009 [quote user="blahblahblah"][quote user="TIL 1010"][quote user="First Wizard"][quote user="Smudger"] Really WIZ, if I do not mind NCISA coming in a couple of years too late then why should you?It is the only recognised vehcile that we have to start putting some pressure on the board.I am fully behind them, even though I would of liked to fo seen them act a lot sooner.Hopefully (unlike those in our boardroom), those at NCISA have learnt certain lessons over the last few years.Maybe they might just become a bit more radical?They can of course only do that if more radical fans are prepared to join them.. kind of chicken and egg really![/quote]Where do I sign up then fella? [/quote]Go to the NCISA website Wiz and you can download a membership form and post it off to the membership secretary Clare Williamson.[/quote]He will decline saying that unless you pay for the stamp, he can''t be involved...[/quote]lol send him a SAE.If you give me the addresses I will post one out to WIZ from work tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
As my login causes problems [ :o) ] 0 Posted May 6, 2009 [quote user="First Wizard"]I''m not sure I said that, the two guys who first set up the Worthy Out'' site, also, organised a lot of other actions, neither, to my knowledge, are/were NCISA members.......but I may be wrong on that last point.[/quote]Wiz,Of the two founders one is now a member, the other isn''t. Of the group that then organised things through Worthy Out, I believe only one other is a member (me) but several who supported Worthy Out are now members of NCISA.At the time we were not members of NCISA, as we (like others now) thought that NCISA was not radical enough. Rightly or wrongly we put up rather than shut up, as is the right of all NCISA''s critics now, and joined NCISA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
