The Most Unpopular Post of the Year - My View

[Disturbed 0]

Great original post.

Agree with the sentiment.

We sack magers too quickly and at the wrong time. Rodent kept us up one year and got the sack the next!! Bloody stupid decision - he should have been her until the end of the season - if he had we would have stayed up!!!!

[Badger 0]

[quote user="Buckethead"]I was going to continue debating with Tom and the others but Tom came out with a load more disinformation so I couldn''t be bothered. I will however take this opportunity to just point out that Bristolians have Prem league speedway at Swindon, and another top team at Burnham (both closer to Bristol than Kings Lynn is to Norwich). Greyhound racing is on offer at Swindon, Gloucester has some pretty good artificial ski slopes (clearly visible from the M5 if you''ve ever been there) and whilst horse racing at Bath is similar to Yarmouth races there''s no doubt that Cheltenham offers some of the finest racing in the World. You''ll find the avon and the Bristol channel host plenty of sailing clubs too and just to really pee on the bonfire I''d like to point out that Bristol is currently building an Olympic swimming pool as part of the Hengrove Park complex.I expect to be accused of making this up but frankly I don''t give a damn what you think, as you obviously find trolling the Pink ''un much more fun than discussing recipes and keeping the old biddies in order over on Delia Online don''t you Neil?[/quote]Good to see you back Buckethead.  I''m glad that Bristol has speedway (we used to to - before your time?) and a ski slope (we still do). Gt Yarmouth also has Greyhound racing and horse racing as does Fakenham. We have sailing clubs a plenty on the broads and plenty more besides. What''s your point - Bristol is better than Norwich? You might think so but I don''t know why you want to force it on us!Don''t worry about the abuse anymore - I expect no better from you now. Would be quite nice if you could try to address the points made before as well though - for a third time, this is made more in hope than

expectation.

[tom cavendish 0]

[quote user="Buckethead"][quote user="Badger"][quote user="Desert Fox"]

... perhaps Buckethead is simply very bored of the diversionary fascination with the relative size of the population of Norwich vs Bristol.

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If this is the case, it is only after he ended up on the losing end of the argument. He had plenty to say before that.
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[quote user="Buckethead"]

This conversation with you has ended pal, you can claim whatever victory you like but the only person you''re fooling is yourself.
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I was going to continue debating with Tom and the others but Tom came out with a load more disinformation so I couldn''t be bothered. I will however take this opportunity to just point out that Bristolians have Prem league speedway at Swindon, and another top team at Burnham (both closer to Bristol than Kings Lynn is to Norwich). Greyhound racing is on offer at Swindon, Gloucester has some pretty good artificial ski slopes (clearly visible from the M5 if you''ve ever been there) and whilst horse racing at Bath is similar to Yarmouth races there''s no doubt that Cheltenham offers some of the finest racing in the World. You''ll find the avon and the Bristol channel host plenty of sailing clubs too and just to really pee on the bonfire I''d like to point out that Bristol is currently building an Olympic swimming pool as part of the Hengrove Park complex.
I expect to be accused of making this up but frankly I don''t give a damn what you think, as you obviously find trolling the Pink ''un much more fun than discussing recipes and keeping the old biddies in order over on Delia Online don''t you Neil?
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Ah you''ve dug yourself in a big hole there! because now YOU want to include other areas away from Bristol - and if you include the population of those other areas then you will see it is massively bigger than Norfolk. You can even claim Ipswich as being in the Norwich catchment area if you like - and you still lose.

 

 if you want to include

 43.3 miles   

how many people swim at a swiming pool that has not yet been built?

 

 

[Desert Fox 0]

Help - this is like being stuck in the twilight zone.

What has Bristol got to do with the mismanagement of our club? I will give you a clue - nothing, nowt, nada.

Can those of you that work for the club please stop worrying about what is posted on here and sort out the mess that you have created.

[Houston Canary 0]

For me, the most unpopular post of the year was the one in which Elf called me some bad names.  Elf, you''re a real jerk!

[The Fish Seller 0]

Badger thank you for proving you don''t even bother reading the thread  before butting in.Tom look back a few pages and you claim Worcester and Hereford to be Cities within the Bristol catchment area. Gloucester and Cheltenham are half the distance from Bristol of these two cities. Burnham is just the other side of Weston (another place you yourself introduced) and Swindon really is closer to Bristol than Kings Lynn is to Norwich so are you saying it''s okay for you to factor in a radius of 40 miles but not me?And obviously nobody swims in a pool that isn''t built yet but where did you swim when they shut down St Augustines? One of the twelve other public baths in Norwich?Nobody wins as its a pointless ever shifting argument you just need to comprehend this.And another thing this is far from the most unpopular post of the year this can be proven statistically.[:P]

[tom cavendish 0]

Agreed that the debate has gone off track, and the point is that the Board have done very well to attract fans to the club considering Norwich is a small City and that results on the pitch have been bad for a few years in succession. It seems that some just take that good work for granted and don''t give the club the credit they deserve for building up the support etc.

By all means have a go at the board & Dave Stringer for selecting bad managers - but most clubs make the same mistakes over and over again.

But I guess some won''t be happy until the good work off the pitch has been destroyed, crowds are back down to an average of about 14k, and have new owners that couldn''t give a monkeys about whether the club is part of the local community.

It there are to be changes for the better then I am all for it, but be careful that people don''t call for change when there is no better alternative lined up to take the place - else you end up calling for change for the sake of change and Norwich City could end up being no more.

 

[tom cavendish 0]

[quote user="Buckethead"]Badger thank you for proving you don''t even bother reading the thread  before butting in.

Tom look back a few pages and you claim Worcester and Hereford to be Cities within the Bristol catchment area. Gloucester and Cheltenham are half the distance from Bristol of these two cities. Burnham is just the other side of Weston (another place you yourself introduced) and Swindon really is closer to Bristol than Kings Lynn is to Norwich so are you saying it''s okay for you to factor in a radius of 40 miles but not me?

And obviously nobody swims in a pool that isn''t built yet but where did you swim when they shut down St Augustines? One of the twelve other public baths in Norwich?

Nobody wins as its a pointless ever shifting argument you just need to comprehend this.

And another thing this is far from the most unpopular post of the year this can be proven statistically.[:P]
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You missunderstood - I''m all for extending the catchment area if  you like - but you must do so for other places too if you want to make a comparision. Regardless, Norwich is a small city in a sparsely populated county, and Bristol is a massive city with highly populated suburbs and nearby outlying towns (such as Bath which itself is bigger than Norwich but does not even have a league team). In comparison, NCFC do very well to attact such good crowds.

[The Fish Seller 0]

Tom Tom Tom careful mate the population of Bath is considerably smaller than the Norwich City Councils area population.

[beachbum 0]

Tom Cavendish should be our new board member.

 He will fit in really well as he has about as much ambition for our club as the rest of them.

The "little Norwich "mentality is killing our club.

I am not surprised we are in the position we are given the lack of lead from the top, they almost give the players excuses to fail with their statements.

 

Delia calls us little Norwich

Doncaster says we cant compete financially in the Championship.

Doncaster say s "investors arent exactly queing up"

Great sales job guys and great motivation for all of us.

Norwich are in an excellent place to be a bigger club (were not eactly small now)

We have a large existing fan base.

A great exclusive catchment area 1million plus.

A growing City.

No other professional sport as competition for customers.

What we dont have is any drive at the top.

[Badger 0]

[quote user="Buckethead"]I was going to continue debating with Tom and the others but Tom came out with a load more disinformation so I couldn''t be bothered. I will however take this opportunity to just point out that Bristolians have Prem league speedway at Swindon, and another top team at Burnham (both closer to Bristol than Kings Lynn is to Norwich). Greyhound racing is on offer at Swindon, Gloucester has some pretty good artificial ski slopes (clearly visible from the M5 if you''ve ever been there) and whilst horse racing at Bath is similar to Yarmouth races there''s no doubt that Cheltenham offers some of the finest racing in the World. You''ll find the avon and the Bristol channel host plenty of sailing clubs too and just to really pee on the bonfire I''d like to point out that Bristol is currently building an Olympic swimming pool as part of the Hengrove Park complex.I expect to be accused of making this up but frankly I don''t give a damn what you think, as you obviously find trolling the Pink ''un much more fun than discussing recipes and keeping the old biddies in order over on Delia Online don''t you Neil?[/quote]I''m glad that Bristol has speedway (we used to to - before your time?) and a ski slope (we still do). Gt Yarmouth also has Greyhound racing and horse racing as does Fakenham. We have sailing clubs a plenty on the broads and plenty more besides. What''s your point - Bristol is better than Norwich? You might think so but I don''t know why you want to force it on us!Would be quite nice if you could try to address the points made before as well though - for a third time, this is made more in hope than expectation. (Fourth time now!)Read your reply and surprise, surprise it ignores the question. Much as people like you try to run Norwich down, we have just as many facilities as places like Bristol. The argument that some of you put forward that people only attend Norwich matches because they have nothing better to do is not fair on us - we care deeply about our club and our city. You seem to have rather more affection for Bristol.For a fifth time, would you like to disassociate yourself from the jibe that Norwich is a club run by idiots for idiots?Why are you so reluctant?

[Mr.Carrow 376]

This is getting ridiculous frankly and i think DF nailed it early on......just more classic spin, twisting and moving the goalposts when it suits.

Tom, you do not become a top ten retail centre without a very large population to draw from- the stats involved do include footfall and economic turnover and it is stating the obvious to say that you don`t get a diverse range of specialist shops, malls, big department stores etc. in a little country town.  Why don`t you address my points about places like Birmingham and South Yorkshire having big populations but many clubs and other sports fighting for the same pool of people?  I guess it suits your narrow spin better to ignore it......

"We couldn`t afford Crouch":  We made a £9m overall profit from the Prem season, so that`s that argument dead in the water- but i know you`ll just keep repeating it anyway.  By the way, Southampton made a £5m profit on Crouch but what sent them into admin. was the debt for St.Mary`s, so that`s another of your little arguments knocked out.

Bath bigger than Norwich......OMG! [:D]  Unbelievable.

 

[Mr.Carrow 376]

[quote user="Mr.Carrow"]

[quote user="Badger"][quote user="Mr.Carrow"]Show me Bucketheads "slur and abuse" Badger.  If you can`t, go take a nice lie down and come back when you`ve decided to join an adult debate rather than just make things up to suit you like a ten year-old.[/quote]

OK, against my better judgement, because I would rather stick to the argument: Slur and abuse made by “you and your unrepresentative ilk” (as addressed to Buckethead) – on this thread alone

“So people living in parts of Hellesdon or any further out aren''t local to Norwich then, good argument Tom”

“I have to say you are the most obvious "plant" I have come across in two years of viewing.”

“either you''re a plant or your stupid puerile views make you a vegetable - you choose”

“Asinine even by your standards Neil.”

“your post is extraordinarily stupid and insulting even from one who isn''t averse to popping in the odd insult on here when they have nothing more intelligent or constructive to say on the topic.”

“Indeed, one could almost wonder as to their employer or club allegiance.”

“Pompous *....”

“time to go back to kissing Delias backside now i think Tom.”

What we have not had however, is much serious discussion or attempt to refute the points Tom made. Where we have seen them, they have generally relied on statistical manipulation.

In your defence you are not as guilty as some and have made some intelligent points.

But the “glorious 30” – as evidenced by Monday – have been generally slurring and abusing the fans for some time now – you can’t have missed it. Buckethead and Astrodyne have contributed to some of these threads and felt no need to contradict such statements. Instead they have focussed their attention on decrying anyone that opposes such views as a board apologist/ employee or fan of another club. This is not an attempt at adult debate is it Mr Carrow?

Norwich fans attend carrow Road because they love the club, their town and area - not because we are sheep and there is nothing else to do as they keep on trying to say.

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Fair enough Badger.  The thing is there ARE people around (yes, i`ve met some) who believe that by some wonderful magic the board have inspired a quarter of little old Norwich`s 125,000 population to become regular supporters and Toms initial post reads as though he is one of them.  You back him up and state that "these people think we`re stupid" and it looks very much as though you are backing up a frankly ridiculous outlook. 

The Bristol comparison is an argument which is unwinnable by either side.  I`d like to see statistics on "footfall" in Bristol city centre in comparison to Norwich and i don`t think it would be anything like "many,many times" bigger there than here, as tom seems to think.  You don`t become a top ten national retail centre as Norwich is without a very significant population to draw from- and it so happens that Bristol is 24th.....

I tried to widen the argument by pointing out that Birmingham and South Yorkshire have big populations, but many clubs and professional sports all vying for the attentions of the same pool of people, but those points appear to have been ignored.  So i`ll repeat, South Yorkshire has a pop. of 1.26m, but has 5 professional clubs and other top-class sports such as rugby.  Does this not make our catchment of 1 million people in Norfolk and N.Suffolk with one club and no other top-class sport look pretty decent in comparison?  Have a look at Greater Manchester and the number of clubs/other sports for another example.

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Would you like to address the points in the last paragraph above Tom?

[Ultramagnetic 0]

"Bath bigger than Norwich......OMG!   Unbelievable."

 

Indeed.  I cant believe the misinformation being spouted in this thread.   

[The Fish Seller 0]

[quote user="Badger"]I''m glad that Bristol has speedway (we used to to - before your time?) and a ski slope (we still do). Gt Yarmouth also has Greyhound racing and horse racing as does Fakenham. We have sailing clubs a plenty on the broads and plenty more besides. What''s your point - Bristol is better than Norwich? You might think so but I don''t know why you want to force it on us![/quote][quote user="tom cavendish"]

And if you want to include other sports Kings Lynn has speedway

(none in Bristol) plus there is greyhound racing at Yamouth (none in

Bristol) and of course there is horse racing at Yarmouth & Fakenham

(none in Bristol). We even have boating (not much in Bristol), a ski

slope (none in Bristol) and an olympic sized swimming pool (none in

Bristol).[/quote]

As I''ve already said Badger you obviously didn''t bother reading what was written when you weren''t hovering over this thread.

[Badger 0]

[quote user="Buckethead"]As I''ve already said Badger you obviously didn''t bother reading what was written when you weren''t hovering over this thread.[/quote]I was aware that Bristol has a swimming point and realised that the OP had said that he didn''t as I am sure you are well aware. You are just using it to duck the question (again) but my question remains - what ''s your point? (let me help – why is this significant?)+ For a sixth time, would you like to disassociate yourself from the jibe that Norwich is a club run by idiots for idiots?Why are you so reluctant?

[Syteanric 1]

[quote user="Badger"][quote user="jas the barclay king"]

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time to go back to kissing Delias backside now i think Tom.

jas :)

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QED
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and you cant offer any alternative to my points... id be interested to hear your view badger

jas :)

[Badger 0]

[quote user="jas the barclay king"][quote user="Badger"][quote user="jas the barclay king"]....

time to go back to kissing Delias backside now i think Tom.

jas :)

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and you cant offer any alternative to my points... id be interested to hear your view badger

jas :)

[/quote]There are rather a lot of them Jas and you were replying to a post from the OP not me. I''d be happy to comment upon any point you make if you can specify.

[The Fish Seller 0]

[quote user="Badger"]+ For a sixth time, would you like to disassociate yourself from the jibe that Norwich is a club run by idiots for idiots?Why are you so reluctant?[/quote]Quid pro quo.To disassociate myself I would of course first have to be associated Badger. I asked you some pages back to show me the association, you failed.

[Badger 0]

[quote user="Buckethead"][quote user="Badger"]+ For a sixth time, would you like to disassociate yourself from the jibe that Norwich is a club run by idiots for idiots?Why are you so reluctant?[/quote]Quid pro quo.To disassociate myself I would of course first have to be associated Badger. I asked you some pages back to show me the association, you failed.

[/quote]Yes that''s fair enough, I accept your point about direct association. My post on this thread referred to "you and your unrepresentative ilk." I have not provided any evidence of direct association with this unpleasant group. TBH, I have not looked but perhaps it does not exist, if you say it doesn''t, I will trust you on that. I still wish that the more intelligent amongst "that ilk" would temper the views of some of their brethren.I deplore the viewpoint that Norwich City is a club run "for idiots." Probably like you, it is my family and heritage that they are talking about. Quid pro quo, are you comfortabe with stating that you find this viewpoint disagreeable?

[tom cavendish 0]

[quote user="Badger"][quote user="Buckethead"]

As I''ve already said Badger you obviously didn''t bother reading what was written when you weren''t hovering over this thread.
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I was aware that Bristol has a swimming point and realised that the OP had said that he didn''t as I am sure you are well aware. You are just using it to duck the question (again) but my question remains - what ''s your point? (let me help – why is this significant?)

+ For a sixth time, would you like to disassociate yourself from the jibe that Norwich is a club run by idiots for idiots?

Why are you so reluctant?

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Bristol does not actually have an Olympic sized swimming pool - the one at Hengrove Park was due to open in 2010 but now Bristol city council are saying it could be delayed due to the recession.

[tom cavendish 0]

[quote user="Buckethead"]Tom Tom Tom careful mate the population of Bath is considerably smaller than the Norwich City Councils area population.


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Not according to the census data, and the data on the Norwich council website.

http://www.norwich.gov.uk/site_files/pages/City_Council__Key_Statistics.html

[Mr.Carrow 376]

And you accuse others of not comparing like with like tom......?

The figure i found was for "Bath and North-East Somerset" at 169,000.  Now have a look at the figures for "Greater Norwich" or the "Norwich travel to work area" for a more appropriate comparison. 

Can you answer my question about Birmingham or South Yorkshire?

[Syteanric 1]

[quote user="tom cavendish"]

[quote user="Buckethead"]Tom Tom Tom careful mate the population of Bath is considerably smaller than the Norwich City Councils area population.


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Not according to the census data, and the data on the Norwich council website.

http://www.norwich.gov.uk/site_files/pages/City_Council__Key_Statistics.html

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can you address the comments i made to your post please Tom.

jas :)

[Badger 0]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_towns_and_cities_in_England_by_populationFor what it is worth. This tends to suggest that Bristol is one of the biggest underachievers, but Buckethead suggests that this is because they all go on the ski slopes and their lovely swimming pool! (Just teasing - sorry). It also illustrates how difficult it actually is to compare "like with like." The notes that go with this (see link) identify which districts have been included (or not) to arrive at the figure. The Norwich figure for example includes Thorpe St Andrew, whilst the Manchester figures looks very much lower than I expected. (Population of entire Greater Manchester Urban Area is 2,244,931 in 2005, but a friend of mine moved away so that is now probably only 2, 244, 929*).*- he was married in case you are wondering!It is quite interesting when you compare size of population with success or otherwise of the areas football teams but I don''t think it provides any evidence that City fans only attend because they have nothing better to do which is what some would have us believe.1    London    7,172,091    City2    Birmingham    970,892    City3    Liverpool    469,017    City4    Leeds    443,247    City5    Sheffield    439,866    City6    Bristol    420,556    City7    Manchester    394,269    City8    Leicester    330,574    City9    Coventry    303,475    City10    Kingston upon Hull    301,416    City11    Bradford    293,717    City12    Stoke-on-Trent    259,252    City13    Wolverhampton    251,462    City14    Nottingham    249,584    City15    Plymouth    243,795    City16    Southampton    234,224    City17    Reading    232,662    Town18    Derby    229,407    City19    Dudley    194,919    Town20    Newcastle upon Tyne    189,863    City21    Northampton    189,474    Town22    Portsmouth    187,056    City23    Luton    185,543    Town24    Preston    184,836    City25    Milton Keynes    184,506    26    Sunderland    177,739    City27    Norwich    174,047    City28    Walsall    170,994    Town29    Bournemouth    167,527    Town30    Southend-on-Sea    160,257    Town31    Swindon    155,432    Town32    Huddersfield    146,234    Town33    Poole    144,800    Town34    Oxford    143,016    City35    Middlesbrough    142,691    Town36    Blackpool    142,283    Town37    Bolton    139,403    Town38    Ipswich    138,718    Town39    Telford    138,241    Town40    York    137,505    City41    West Bromwich    136,940    Town42    Peterborough    136,292    City43    Stockport    136,082    Town44    Brighton    134,293    Town45    Slough    126,276    Town46    Gloucester    123,205    City47    Watford    120,960    Town48    Rotherham    117,262    Town49    Cambridge    113,442    City50    Exeter    106,772    City51    Eastbourne    106,562    Town52    Sutton Coldfield    105,452    Town53    Blackburn    105,085    Town54    Colchester    104,390    Town55    Oldham    103,544    Town56    St Helens    102,629    Town57    Crawley    100,547    Town

[The Fish Seller 0]

[quote user="Badger"]1    London    7,172,091    City2    Birmingham    970,892    City3    Liverpool    469,017    City4    Leeds    443,247    City5    Sheffield    439,866    City6    Bristol    420,556    City7    Manchester    394,269    City8    Leicester    330,574    City9    Coventry    303,475    City10    Kingston upon Hull    301,416    City11    Bradford    293,717    City12    Stoke-on-Trent    259,252    City13    Wolverhampton    251,462    City14    Nottingham    249,584    City15    Plymouth    243,795    City16    Southampton    234,224    City17    Reading    232,662    Town18    Derby    229,407    City19    Dudley    194,919    Town20    Newcastle upon Tyne    189,863    City21    Northampton    189,474    Town22    Portsmouth    187,056    City23    Luton    185,543    Town24    Preston    184,836    City25    Milton Keynes    184,506    26    Sunderland    177,739    City27    Norwich    174,047    City28    Walsall    170,994    Town29    Bournemouth    167,527    Town30    Southend-on-Sea    160,257    Town31    Swindon    155,432    Town32    Huddersfield    146,234    Town33    Poole    144,800    Town34    Oxford    143,016    City35    Middlesbrough    142,691    Town36    Blackpool    142,283    Town37    Bolton    139,403    Town38    Ipswich    138,718    Town39    Telford    138,241    Town40    York    137,505    City41    West Bromwich    136,940    Town42    Peterborough    136,292    City43    Stockport    136,082    Town44    Brighton    134,293    Town45    Slough    126,276    Town46    Gloucester    123,205    City47    Watford    120,960    Town48    Rotherham    117,262    Town49    Cambridge    113,442    City50    Exeter    106,772    City51    Eastbourne    106,562    Town52    Sutton Coldfield    105,452    Town53    Blackburn    105,085    Town54    Colchester    104,390    Town55    Oldham    103,544    Town56    St Helens    102,629    Town57    Crawley    100,547    Town[/quote]

You forgot Bath. [:D][:D]

[Mr.Carrow 376]

Thanks for the link Badger, i actually find stuff like that quite interesting.  Sad i know.....[:$]

According to Wiki the "Avon" area including Bristol, Bath, Weston and surrounding areas has a population of about 1 million.  So that puts toms argument that the Bristol area has a population "many,many times greater than Norfolk" well and truly to bed.  Of course that population is split between two clubs/rugby etc. but it`s still fair to say that it has underachieved in football terms (and well they know it!).

 

[YankeeCanary 0]

[quote user="Buckethead"][quote user="Badger"]


1    London    7,172,091    City
2    Birmingham    970,892    City
3    Liverpool    469,017    City
4    Leeds    443,247    City
5    Sheffield    439,866    City
6    Bristol    420,556    City
7    Manchester    394,269    City
8    Leicester    330,574    City
9    Coventry    303,475    City
10    Kingston upon Hull    301,416    City
11    Bradford    293,717    City
12    Stoke-on-Trent    259,252    City
13    Wolverhampton    251,462    City
14    Nottingham    249,584    City
15    Plymouth    243,795    City
16    Southampton    234,224    City
17    Reading    232,662    Town
18    Derby    229,407    City
19    Dudley    194,919    Town
20    Newcastle upon Tyne    189,863    City
21    Northampton    189,474    Town
22    Portsmouth    187,056    City
23    Luton    185,543    Town
24    Preston    184,836    City
25    Milton Keynes    184,506   
26    Sunderland    177,739    City
27    Norwich    174,047    City
28    Walsall    170,994    Town
29    Bournemouth    167,527    Town
30    Southend-on-Sea    160,257    Town
31    Swindon    155,432    Town
32    Huddersfield    146,234    Town
33    Poole    144,800    Town
34    Oxford    143,016    City
35    Middlesbrough    142,691    Town
36    Blackpool    142,283    Town
37    Bolton    139,403    Town
38    Ipswich    138,718    Town
39    Telford    138,241    Town
40    York    137,505    City
41    West Bromwich    136,940    Town
42    Peterborough    136,292    City
43    Stockport    136,082    Town
44    Brighton    134,293    Town
45    Slough    126,276    Town
46    Gloucester    123,205    City
47    Watford    120,960    Town
48    Rotherham    117,262    Town
49    Cambridge    113,442    City
50    Exeter    106,772    City
51    Eastbourne    106,562    Town
52    Sutton Coldfield    105,452    Town
53    Blackburn    105,085    Town
54    Colchester    104,390    Town
55    Oldham    103,544    Town
56    St Helens    102,629    Town
57    Crawley    100,547    Town

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You forgot Bath. [:D][:D]
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He didn''t forget it. It''s been done to death. [:D]

[Desert Fox 0]

YC,

Really?

How about the fact that the claims of Tom are incoveniently and laughably untrue.

[tom cavendish 0]

[quote user="Desert Fox"]

YC,

Really?

How about the fact that the claims of Tom are incoveniently and laughably untrue.

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If you do not believe the census data then the population of the ''travel to work area'' is a fair like for  like indicator of the local population for a football club. For Norwich it is 376,500. For Bristol it is 1 million.

Norwich City attract more home fans than those that attend Bristol City + Bristol Rovers + Bristol Rugby Club matches. So considering the Norwich travel to work area has a population almost a 3rd of that of Bristol, Norwich City do very well to attract such good crowds. When Delia and Co took over the NCFC crowds were only about 14,500 on average and they were 10,000 up on that last season even though the club has struggled on the pitch for a few years in a row. Surely the Board deserve some credit for increasing the crowds?