Roy Keane - Managerial Record - Championship

[ACE 0]

Ok, been doing some digging out of curiosity at some of the "wallet manager" stuff.  Lets see how much he actually spent on getting Sunderland from bottom of the Championship to promotion in the same season.....All info from soccerbase.comDwight Yorke 220KLiam Miller FreeStanislav Varga & Ross Wallace combined fee 1.1 millionGraham Kavanagh 500KDavid Connolly 1.4 millionAnthony Stokes 2 millionCarlos Edwards 1.5 millionStern John FreeTotal transfer fees: 6.72 million

Now bearing in mind WE paid during the same season:3.5 million for Earnie 600k For CroftTotal transfer fees: 4.1 millionThe difference between him getting them promoted and us finishing 18th was just 2.62 million

I dont think you could call that much spending at a club like Sunderland who get 30,000+ at a game extrvagant.

My point is that it is a total myth that he got them promoted spending a fortune.  He attracted better quality players for low fees because he is a name, while we struggled to get in anyone of note which is apparently down to Geography.I do hope there is some sort of large protest if we do go down on Monday.

[? 20]

''The difference between him getting them promoted and us finishing 18th was just 2.62 million''...

..and the fact that they had a far better squad than us in the first place. They were quite clearly under performing when he came in.

2 million on Anthony Stokes... You do have to giggle at that one.

[can u sit down please 0]

Great point! I have been trying to prove this elsewhere!

Now hopefully some will see the reality that keane will take them places, leaving us far far behind!

But it''s ok....we have the chef!

[Yellow Shirt 17]

Thats the thing isn''t it- we spent 4M plugging holes in a squad that was already small and leaky he spent 6+M on players that were overpriced to add to a squad that was already full... and few of his additions managed to make a huge impact (some did do well though)TBH I see him as a similar man to Roeder and he will have an instant impact- but it will not last, I''d put money on it.For those crying "sour grapes" lets not underestimate the fact that money and success going into ITFC would potentially help our geography look better to investers and actually help us become the bigger club that we believe we are/should be.

[Shaun Tilly Lace 0]

I think a lot of us, myself included, are hoping and praying he gets it badly wrong at Ippoo, and wastes vanloads of Evan''s dosh to boot. Those scummer fans would be insufferably smug if the "Iranian President" helped them to promotion, while we were still floundering around in the lower leagues.

[mockystickwell 0]

Us SMUG!!!!

How very dare you!

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[ACE 0]

Overpriced???

If our team currently contained those players (as they were three years ago) and we had obtained them at the prices stated, would we be upset?  Would we be where we are now?  Im not convinced we would.

My main point is he did NOT contrary to the cr*p spouted on here spend that much getting them up in comparison to us in the same season.  The larger point is that we have consistently gone for little managers who cant attract those sort of players for those sort of fees and we are on the verge of oblivion due to that.[quote user="Yellow Shirt"]Thats the thing isn''t it- we spent 4M plugging holes in a squad that was already small and leaky he spent 6+M on players that were overpriced to add to a squad that was already full... and few of his additions managed to make a huge impact (some did do well though)TBH I see him as a similar man to Roeder and he will have an instant impact- but it will not last, I''d put money on it.For those crying "sour grapes" lets not underestimate the fact that money and success going into ITFC would potentially help our geography look better to investers and actually help us become the bigger club that we believe we are/should be.[/quote]

[Shaun Tilly Lace 0]

[quote user="mockystickwell"]

Us SMUG!!!!

How very dare you!

[:O]

 

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Like the username.

[Yellow Shirt 17]

[quote]I think a lot of us, myself included, are hoping and praying he gets it badly wrong at Ippoo, and wastes vanloads of Evan''s dosh to boot. Those scummer fans would be insufferably smug if the "Iranian President" helped them to promotion, while we were still floundering around in the lower leagues.[/quote]I wont deny that that would make me chuckle a bit but I genuinely believe Keane will not be the saviour- even after thinking long and hard and coming up with the possible bright side of any success they might find.That said- he will probably have enough short term impact to take them up next year... that''s when I think the problems will start for them.

[Yellow Shirt 17]

[quote user="Pastry"]Overpriced???

If our team currently contained those players (as they were three years ago) and we had obtained them at the prices stated, would we be upset?  Would we be where we are now?  Im not convinced we would.

My main point is he did NOT contrary to the cr*p spouted on here spend that much getting them up in comparison to us in the same season.  The larger point is that we have consistently gone for little managers who cant attract those sort of players for those sort of fees and we are on the verge of oblivion due to that.[quote user="Yellow Shirt"]Thats the thing isn''t it- we spent 4M plugging holes in a squad that was already small and leaky he spent 6+M on players that were overpriced to add to a squad that was already full... and few of his additions managed to make a huge impact (some did do well though)TBH I see him as a similar man to Roeder and he will have an instant impact- but it will not last, I''d put money on it.For those crying "sour grapes" lets not underestimate the fact that money and success going into ITFC would potentially help our geography look better to investers and actually help us become the bigger club that we believe we are/should be.[/quote][/quote]Yep- remember what many of those players were rated at at the time- he was able to get some because of who he was and some by paying far more than anyone else would cs his budgets allowed it... they also allowed for players to be brought in and fail to perform very well without having used up all his budget.

[Camuldonum 0]

The Mail have done a fairly extensive survey of his purchases:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1091929/Lets-hope-Ipswich-got-deep-pockets--Sportsmails-verdict-80m-Sunderland-transfer-record-raspberry-Roy.html

[Buncey 1]

Well considering we sold ashton for 7.5m that 3.5m spent on Earnshaw didn''t seem that bad did it?And the reason he attracted better quality players was because Sunderland with all their money probably paid a far better wages, remembering as well that a lot of those players were at poorer teams or languishing away from the first team squad. So nice try, but it''s an Fail. Better luck next time.

[king canary 7,558]

Stern John was not free.

[ndhscanary 0]

Well I have been looking at the figures of how much he spent after this.

2007/08

Michael Chopra	Cardiff	£ 5000000	13-07-2007
Kieran Richardson	Man Utd	£ 5500000	16-07-2007
Dickson Etuhu	Norwich	£ 1500000	17-07-2007
Paul McShane	West Brom	£ 2500000	26-07-2007
Craig Gordon	Hearts	£ 9000000	08-08-2007
Andy Cole	Portsmouth	Free	24-08-2007
Kenwyne Jones	Southampton	£ 6000000	29-08-2007
Ian Harte	Levante	Free	29-08-2007
Danny Higginbotham	Stoke	£ 2500000	29-08-2007
Jean-Yves Mvoto	Paris St-G.	£ 300000	15-01-2008
Phil Bardsley	Man Utd	£ 2000000	22-01-2008
Rade Prica	Aalborg	£ 2000000	29-01-2008
Andy Reid	Charlton	£ 4000000	31-01-2008
Total: £ 40300000

2008/09

Teemu Tainio	Tottenham	Signed	01-07-2008
Nick Colgan	Ipswich	Free	24-07-2008
Pascal Chimbonda	Tottenham	Signed	26-07-2008
El Hadji Diouf	Bolton	£ 2500000	28-07-2008
Steed Malbranque	Tottenham	Signed	30-07-2008
David Healy	Fulham	Signed	21-08-2008
Anton Ferdinand	West Ham	£ 8000000	27-08-2008
George McCartney	West Ham	£ 4500000	02-09-2008
Total: £ 15000000

Now looking at those figures he has spent at least £55M but thats probably more as some of those are undisclosed. So thats £55M spent and there still in a relegation battle. Also some of those players have just been a total waste of money. I mean there is now way Anton Ferdinand is worth £8 Million. Chopra, Mcshane and Higginbotham all out on loan yet they all cost a hell of a lot of money. While Prica played like two games for them in a year and he cost £2 Million

[Lewie - Holt Our Saviour 0]

Etuhu for 15 million lool? What did we do with the money for him?

[0ridgemanddMMyyyy0Falseen-USTrue 0]

Whatever is said about Keane lets appreciate one thing he doesn''t accept crap from players and that would elevate us for a start. I don''t think he would get on with Doncaster either.

[Mello Yello 2,273]

[quote user="ridgeman"]Whatever is said about Keane lets appreciate one thing he doesn''t accept crap from players and that would elevate us for a start. I don''t think he would get on with Doncaster either.[/quote]

I don''t think Keane would suit our board at all...

[Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB 1,017]

How much did Sunderland pay in wages, signing on fees and agent fees? I would not mind betting that Dwight Yorke''s weekly wage was considerably higher than Earnie''s.....