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I have just watched the DVD of the season we won the title. Very near the end Kevin Piper is talking to Delia.

 

KP: ‘Delia is it a little bit too early to start thinking about next year, think about the Arsenals, the Liverpools, the Chelseas etc.etc. What do you think?

 

Delia: ‘What I have said is we’re gonna have lots of fun, lots of parties and when the fixture list comes out we’ll all go WOW now what?’

 

Most companies, if they are going to expand, expand when they are doing well. We didn’t. The signing of Simon Charlton must have sent shivers through the rest of the Premiership. We also signed Helveg and Johnnson.

Helveg was mainly played out of position and we only saw flashes of what made Johnnson a Swedish international. Everyone we signed was bought cheaply or with the view that if we didn’t stay up they could be sold and we would get our money back (Or most of it). Prudence but no ambition.

 

Make no mistake the board struck it lucky getting into the Premiership, but then let us all down by showing NO ambition to keep us there.

So, following an utter humiliation at Fulham ‘the best fans in the world’, hoped we would go straight back up backed with parachute payments.

Again, a complete and utter lack of investing in the playing staff has left us on the slide.

 

After 2 seasons of parachute money we looked nowhere near challenging at the sharp end of the division, then a succession of useless managers have left us with a very low quality, paper thin squad.

 

I have said that failure to win against Watford will (as far as I am concerned) lead to certain relegation. Ipswich will take great delight in beating us if they think it will send us down, and although they have been rubbish at home this season they will be well up for their biggest game of the season. Reading are fighting to go up automatically and are a very strong squad. Charlton look doomed and as a result will have no pressure on when they play us on the last game of the season. So where are all the points that will save us coming from? Everyone has said look at the games that X,Y and Z have got left, I am not interested in X,Y and Z just Norwich City.

 

Back to Delia’s quote at the top, ‘and when the fixture list comes out we’ll all go WOW where the hell is Yeovil?’

 

As Sir Alan would say, ‘when you took on the job of project leader you all knew what was required, your lack of business acumen and failure to react to the disastrous consequences of your useless decisions leaves me no option but to say, Delia, Michael, Roger and Neil you should all be fired.’

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Not a bad post and a few good points r.e. Delia''s lack of ability to provide a confident leadership model in the press. Where it goes astray is that you''re arguing from an emotional and personal perspective rather than one of fact and logic and yet you still assume the inalienable correctness of your assertions and expect the reader to do the same.

Simon Charlton is a great example of where we went wrong, but did Delia Smith pick his name out of a hat marked "cheap signings who''ll do" or did Nigel Worthington make that decision? Likewise, investment was made in terms of Ashton and later Earnshaw, but you avoid mentioning them because they don''t fit your point of zero investment by a stingy board. Ironically both are good examples of the point which you could have made, i.e. that investment decisions have been poor. Ashton was bought 6 months too late and for a greater fee than it would have taken to bring Peter Crouch here in the first place. And Earnshaw, partial success that he was, was the wrong player to bring in to replace Ashton considering we had no target man for him to play off with Ashton gone. However, these decisions were made by Nigel Worthington, so again, the "It''s all Delia Smith''s fault" argument doesn''t hold as much water, so you omit it.

Investment has been made, but it has been wasted on rubbish players bought by struggling managers, and on their exhorbitant wages which they haven''t earned. That''s why we''re in this mess, but it is far easier and more satisfying to pin the blame on a few sacrificial lambs, because collective culpability is messy and tangled and gives you very little satisfaction in unravelling how it all went wrong.

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If you watch the first bit of the film outside City Hall the little lad in the green Lotus top is my son, he should have been in school and was caught out by the video. What a day that was

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[quote user="Canary02 III"]

Not a bad post and a few good points r.e. Delia''s lack of ability to provide a confident leadership model in the press. Where it goes astray is that you''re arguing from an emotional and personal perspective rather than one of fact and logic and yet you still assume the inalienable correctness of your assertions and expect the reader to do the same.

Simon Charlton is a great example of where we went wrong, but did Delia Smith pick his name out of a hat marked "cheap signings who''ll do" or did Nigel Worthington make that decision? Likewise, investment was made in terms of Ashton and later Earnshaw, but you avoid mentioning them because they don''t fit your point of zero investment by a stingy board. Ironically both are good examples of the point which you could have made, i.e. that investment decisions have been poor. Ashton was bought 6 months too late and for a greater fee than it would have taken to bring Peter Crouch here in the first place. And Earnshaw, partial success that he was, was the wrong player to bring in to replace Ashton considering we had no target man for him to play off with Ashton gone. However, these decisions were made by Nigel Worthington, so again, the "It''s all Delia Smith''s fault" argument doesn''t hold as much water, so you omit it.

Investment has been made, but it has been wasted on rubbish players bought by struggling managers, and on their exhorbitant wages which they haven''t earned. That''s why we''re in this mess, but it is far easier and more satisfying to pin the blame on a few sacrificial lambs, because collective culpability is messy and tangled and gives you very little satisfaction in unravelling how it all went wrong.

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You''re just a board apologist....

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[quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Canary02 III"]

Not a bad post and a few good points r.e. Delia''s lack of ability to provide a confident leadership model in the press. Where it goes astray is that you''re arguing from an emotional and personal perspective rather than one of fact and logic and yet you still assume the inalienable correctness of your assertions and expect the reader to do the same.

Simon Charlton is a great example of where we went wrong, but did Delia Smith pick his name out of a hat marked "cheap signings who''ll do" or did Nigel Worthington make that decision? Likewise, investment was made in terms of Ashton and later Earnshaw, but you avoid mentioning them because they don''t fit your point of zero investment by a stingy board. Ironically both are good examples of the point which you could have made, i.e. that investment decisions have been poor. Ashton was bought 6 months too late and for a greater fee than it would have taken to bring Peter Crouch here in the first place. And Earnshaw, partial success that he was, was the wrong player to bring in to replace Ashton considering we had no target man for him to play off with Ashton gone. However, these decisions were made by Nigel Worthington, so again, the "It''s all Delia Smith''s fault" argument doesn''t hold as much water, so you omit it.

Investment has been made, but it has been wasted on rubbish players bought by struggling managers, and on their exhorbitant wages which they haven''t earned. That''s why we''re in this mess, but it is far easier and more satisfying to pin the blame on a few sacrificial lambs, because collective culpability is messy and tangled and gives you very little satisfaction in unravelling how it all went wrong.

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You''re just a board apologist....

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And label de jour from the lazy whiners brigade is...

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[quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Canary02 III"]

Not a bad post and a few good points r.e. Delia''s lack of ability to provide a confident leadership model in the press. Where it goes astray is that you''re arguing from an emotional and personal perspective rather than one of fact and logic and yet you still assume the inalienable correctness of your assertions and expect the reader to do the same.

Simon Charlton is a great example of where we went wrong, but did Delia Smith pick his name out of a hat marked "cheap signings who''ll do" or did Nigel Worthington make that decision? Likewise, investment was made in terms of Ashton and later Earnshaw, but you avoid mentioning them because they don''t fit your point of zero investment by a stingy board. Ironically both are good examples of the point which you could have made, i.e. that investment decisions have been poor. Ashton was bought 6 months too late and for a greater fee than it would have taken to bring Peter Crouch here in the first place. And Earnshaw, partial success that he was, was the wrong player to bring in to replace Ashton considering we had no target man for him to play off with Ashton gone. However, these decisions were made by Nigel Worthington, so again, the "It''s all Delia Smith''s fault" argument doesn''t hold as much water, so you omit it.

Investment has been made, but it has been wasted on rubbish players bought by struggling managers, and on their exhorbitant wages which they haven''t earned. That''s why we''re in this mess, but it is far easier and more satisfying to pin the blame on a few sacrificial lambs, because collective culpability is messy and tangled and gives you very little satisfaction in unravelling how it all went wrong.

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You''re just a board apologist....

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Was there not something on google images that could have said that in a way which shows just how funny you are?

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[quote user="Canary02 III"][quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Canary02 III"]

Not a bad post and a few good points r.e. Delia''s lack of ability to provide a confident leadership model in the press. Where it goes astray is that you''re arguing from an emotional and personal perspective rather than one of fact and logic and yet you still assume the inalienable correctness of your assertions and expect the reader to do the same.

Simon Charlton is a great example of where we went wrong, but did Delia Smith pick his name out of a hat marked "cheap signings who''ll do" or did Nigel Worthington make that decision? Likewise, investment was made in terms of Ashton and later Earnshaw, but you avoid mentioning them because they don''t fit your point of zero investment by a stingy board. Ironically both are good examples of the point which you could have made, i.e. that investment decisions have been poor. Ashton was bought 6 months too late and for a greater fee than it would have taken to bring Peter Crouch here in the first place. And Earnshaw, partial success that he was, was the wrong player to bring in to replace Ashton considering we had no target man for him to play off with Ashton gone. However, these decisions were made by Nigel Worthington, so again, the "It''s all Delia Smith''s fault" argument doesn''t hold as much water, so you omit it.

Investment has been made, but it has been wasted on rubbish players bought by struggling managers, and on their exhorbitant wages which they haven''t earned. That''s why we''re in this mess, but it is far easier and more satisfying to pin the blame on a few sacrificial lambs, because collective culpability is messy and tangled and gives you very little satisfaction in unravelling how it all went wrong.

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You''re just a board apologist....

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Was there not something on google images that could have said that in a way which shows just how funny you are?

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You''re a pro-boardist and club apologist....Google don''t do those images....Dullard.

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[quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Canary02 III"][quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Canary02 III"]

Not a bad post and a few good points r.e. Delia''s lack of ability to provide a confident leadership model in the press. Where it goes astray is that you''re arguing from an emotional and personal perspective rather than one of fact and logic and yet you still assume the inalienable correctness of your assertions and expect the reader to do the same.

Simon Charlton is a great example of where we went wrong, but did Delia Smith pick his name out of a hat marked "cheap signings who''ll do" or did Nigel Worthington make that decision? Likewise, investment was made in terms of Ashton and later Earnshaw, but you avoid mentioning them because they don''t fit your point of zero investment by a stingy board. Ironically both are good examples of the point which you could have made, i.e. that investment decisions have been poor. Ashton was bought 6 months too late and for a greater fee than it would have taken to bring Peter Crouch here in the first place. And Earnshaw, partial success that he was, was the wrong player to bring in to replace Ashton considering we had no target man for him to play off with Ashton gone. However, these decisions were made by Nigel Worthington, so again, the "It''s all Delia Smith''s fault" argument doesn''t hold as much water, so you omit it.

Investment has been made, but it has been wasted on rubbish players bought by struggling managers, and on their exhorbitant wages which they haven''t earned. That''s why we''re in this mess, but it is far easier and more satisfying to pin the blame on a few sacrificial lambs, because collective culpability is messy and tangled and gives you very little satisfaction in unravelling how it all went wrong.

[/quote]

You''re just a board apologist....

[/quote]

Was there not something on google images that could have said that in a way which shows just how funny you are?

[/quote]

You''re a pro-boardist and club apologist....Google don''t do those images....Dullard.

[/quote]

[:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)]

Bless.

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[quote user="Canary02 III"][quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Canary02 III"][quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Canary02 III"]

Not a bad post and a few good points r.e. Delia''s lack of ability to provide a confident leadership model in the press. Where it goes astray is that you''re arguing from an emotional and personal perspective rather than one of fact and logic and yet you still assume the inalienable correctness of your assertions and expect the reader to do the same.

Simon Charlton is a great example of where we went wrong, but did Delia Smith pick his name out of a hat marked "cheap signings who''ll do" or did Nigel Worthington make that decision? Likewise, investment was made in terms of Ashton and later Earnshaw, but you avoid mentioning them because they don''t fit your point of zero investment by a stingy board. Ironically both are good examples of the point which you could have made, i.e. that investment decisions have been poor. Ashton was bought 6 months too late and for a greater fee than it would have taken to bring Peter Crouch here in the first place. And Earnshaw, partial success that he was, was the wrong player to bring in to replace Ashton considering we had no target man for him to play off with Ashton gone. However, these decisions were made by Nigel Worthington, so again, the "It''s all Delia Smith''s fault" argument doesn''t hold as much water, so you omit it.

Investment has been made, but it has been wasted on rubbish players bought by struggling managers, and on their exhorbitant wages which they haven''t earned. That''s why we''re in this mess, but it is far easier and more satisfying to pin the blame on a few sacrificial lambs, because collective culpability is messy and tangled and gives you very little satisfaction in unravelling how it all went wrong.

[/quote]

You''re just a board apologist....

[/quote]

Was there not something on google images that could have said that in a way which shows just how funny you are?

[/quote]

You''re a pro-boardist and club apologist....Google don''t do those images....Dullard.

[/quote]

[:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)]

Bless.

[/quote]

No Bollox.....Board apologist and pro-boardist....

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[quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Canary02 III"][quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Canary02 III"][quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Canary02 III"]

Not a bad post and a few good points r.e. Delia''s lack of ability to provide a confident leadership model in the press. Where it goes astray is that you''re arguing from an emotional and personal perspective rather than one of fact and logic and yet you still assume the inalienable correctness of your assertions and expect the reader to do the same.

Simon Charlton is a great example of where we went wrong, but did Delia Smith pick his name out of a hat marked "cheap signings who''ll do" or did Nigel Worthington make that decision? Likewise, investment was made in terms of Ashton and later Earnshaw, but you avoid mentioning them because they don''t fit your point of zero investment by a stingy board. Ironically both are good examples of the point which you could have made, i.e. that investment decisions have been poor. Ashton was bought 6 months too late and for a greater fee than it would have taken to bring Peter Crouch here in the first place. And Earnshaw, partial success that he was, was the wrong player to bring in to replace Ashton considering we had no target man for him to play off with Ashton gone. However, these decisions were made by Nigel Worthington, so again, the "It''s all Delia Smith''s fault" argument doesn''t hold as much water, so you omit it.

Investment has been made, but it has been wasted on rubbish players bought by struggling managers, and on their exhorbitant wages which they haven''t earned. That''s why we''re in this mess, but it is far easier and more satisfying to pin the blame on a few sacrificial lambs, because collective culpability is messy and tangled and gives you very little satisfaction in unravelling how it all went wrong.

[/quote]

You''re just a board apologist....

[/quote]

Was there not something on google images that could have said that in a way which shows just how funny you are?

[/quote]

You''re a pro-boardist and club apologist....Google don''t do those images....Dullard.

[/quote]

[:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)]

Bless.

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No Bollox.....Board apologist and pro-boardist....

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Keep going. It''ll make you feel better sweetheart. [^o)]

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[quote user="Canary02 III"][quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Canary02 III"][quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Canary02 III"][quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Canary02 III"]

Not a bad post and a few good points r.e. Delia''s lack of ability to provide a confident leadership model in the press. Where it goes astray is that you''re arguing from an emotional and personal perspective rather than one of fact and logic and yet you still assume the inalienable correctness of your assertions and expect the reader to do the same.

Simon Charlton is a great example of where we went wrong, but did Delia Smith pick his name out of a hat marked "cheap signings who''ll do" or did Nigel Worthington make that decision? Likewise, investment was made in terms of Ashton and later Earnshaw, but you avoid mentioning them because they don''t fit your point of zero investment by a stingy board. Ironically both are good examples of the point which you could have made, i.e. that investment decisions have been poor. Ashton was bought 6 months too late and for a greater fee than it would have taken to bring Peter Crouch here in the first place. And Earnshaw, partial success that he was, was the wrong player to bring in to replace Ashton considering we had no target man for him to play off with Ashton gone. However, these decisions were made by Nigel Worthington, so again, the "It''s all Delia Smith''s fault" argument doesn''t hold as much water, so you omit it.

Investment has been made, but it has been wasted on rubbish players bought by struggling managers, and on their exhorbitant wages which they haven''t earned. That''s why we''re in this mess, but it is far easier and more satisfying to pin the blame on a few sacrificial lambs, because collective culpability is messy and tangled and gives you very little satisfaction in unravelling how it all went wrong.

[/quote]

You''re just a board apologist....

[/quote]

Was there not something on google images that could have said that in a way which shows just how funny you are?

[/quote]

You''re a pro-boardist and club apologist....Google don''t do those images....Dullard.

[/quote]

[:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)]

Bless.

[/quote]

No Bollox.....Board apologist and pro-boardist....

[/quote]

Keep going. It''ll make you feel better sweetheart. [^o)]

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You''re the one that wants to keep going....Pro-boardist....Club apologist....Oh yes you are....

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[quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Canary02 III"][quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Canary02 III"][quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Canary02 III"][quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Canary02 III"]

Not a bad post and a few good points r.e. Delia''s lack of ability to provide a confident leadership model in the press. Where it goes astray is that you''re arguing from an emotional and personal perspective rather than one of fact and logic and yet you still assume the inalienable correctness of your assertions and expect the reader to do the same.

Simon Charlton is a great example of where we went wrong, but did Delia Smith pick his name out of a hat marked "cheap signings who''ll do" or did Nigel Worthington make that decision? Likewise, investment was made in terms of Ashton and later Earnshaw, but you avoid mentioning them because they don''t fit your point of zero investment by a stingy board. Ironically both are good examples of the point which you could have made, i.e. that investment decisions have been poor. Ashton was bought 6 months too late and for a greater fee than it would have taken to bring Peter Crouch here in the first place. And Earnshaw, partial success that he was, was the wrong player to bring in to replace Ashton considering we had no target man for him to play off with Ashton gone. However, these decisions were made by Nigel Worthington, so again, the "It''s all Delia Smith''s fault" argument doesn''t hold as much water, so you omit it.

Investment has been made, but it has been wasted on rubbish players bought by struggling managers, and on their exhorbitant wages which they haven''t earned. That''s why we''re in this mess, but it is far easier and more satisfying to pin the blame on a few sacrificial lambs, because collective culpability is messy and tangled and gives you very little satisfaction in unravelling how it all went wrong.

[/quote]

You''re just a board apologist....

[/quote]

Was there not something on google images that could have said that in a way which shows just how funny you are?

[/quote]

You''re a pro-boardist and club apologist....Google don''t do those images....Dullard.

[/quote]

[:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)]

Bless.

[/quote]

No Bollox.....Board apologist and pro-boardist....

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Keep going. It''ll make you feel better sweetheart. [^o)]

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You''re the one that wants to keep going....Pro-boardist....Club apologist....Oh yes you are....

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You''re fun when you''re all excited....

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Board apologist and Pro boardist......I have yet to see you say anything negative concerning the Directionless....

You''re the one that''s excited....That''s why you don''t deny it....

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But who manages the Manager? I''ve never been involved in any business where any manager at any level is not managed by someone further up the line. If the Board allowed Worthy to make any transfer signings he wanted then why was he not challenged on some of the more questionnable signings he made? Who on the Board was qualified to challenge Worthy, or indeed any of the other managers we''ve had in the last few years, on footballing issues? I think we all know the answer to that one which brings us back to the same point but from a different angle. If you allow a manager in any business to do as he wants without a robust challenge based on knowledge of the product then you are on a slippery slope. The fact is that the present incumbents on the Board do not have the skills needed to run a successful championship club. End of.  

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You probably don''t want my advice, but seriously, if you don''t have a counterargument, please shut the f*ck up.

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Board apologist and Pro boardist......I have yet to see you say anything negative concerning the Directionless....

You''re the one that''s excited....That''s why you don''t deny it....

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Perhaps that''s because I don''t subscribe to divisive labels or those that promote them, and therefore there''s no need to confirm or deny anything.

Plus, the organ grinder doesn''t dance for the monkey.

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My post was addressed to Canary02 III, by the way. The one with the highly imaginative user name. [:P]

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[quote user="shyster"]You probably don''t want my advice, but seriously, if you don''t have a counterargument, please shut the f*ck up.[/quote]    Wibble

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[quote user="Canary02 III"][quote user="Mello Yello"]

Board apologist and Pro boardist......I have yet to see you say anything negative concerning the Directionless....

You''re the one that''s excited....That''s why you don''t deny it....

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Perhaps that''s because I don''t subscribe to divisive labels or those that promote them, and therefore there''s no need to confirm or deny anything.

Plus, the organ grinder doesn''t dance for the monkey.

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Fence shitter....

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[quote user="ron obvious"][quote user="shyster"]You probably don''t want my advice, but seriously, if you don''t have a counterargument, please shut the f*ck up.[/quote]    Wibble

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Wobble but they don''t fall down?

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Yeh it was stupid they did the promotion party outside city hall in school hours! I pretended i had the dentist and my mum picked me up from school and took me :) it was very hot and sunny that day!I love watching that dvd though, brings back good memories and we played some really good footy

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[quote user="Barry Brockes"]But who manages the Manager? I''ve never been involved in any business where any manager at any level is not managed by someone further up the line. If the Board allowed Worthy to make any transfer signings he wanted then why was he not challenged on some of the more questionnable signings he made? Who on the Board was qualified to challenge Worthy, or indeed any of the other managers we''ve had in the last few years, on footballing issues? I think we all know the answer to that one which brings us back to the same point but from a different angle. If you allow a manager in any business to do as he wants without a robust challenge based on knowledge of the product then you are on a slippery slope. The fact is that the present incumbents on the Board do not have the skills needed to run a successful championship club. End of.  [/quote]

That is an exceptionally good point, and one which I''ve argued before on other threads. The board has made too many mistakes in terms of manager appointment and is ultimately failing with their biggest single decision each time because of their lack of football nous. Dave Stringer was consulted but is obviously out of touch with the modern game, or not a big enough part of the decision making process to steer them away from the calamitous decisios they have made.

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 I doubt Worthington would have signed Doc to play upfront for the first half of the Premier season if he had the money to go get Crouch . £2 million for a striker when you have just been promoted to the top flight is nothing , yet this Board settled for one season and relegation before a ball was kicked and have done NOTHING to strengthen the team since relegation . We do deserve to be relegated and to some extent that softens the blow a little . This club needs an owner who wants to invest in the team , we all mocked Marcus Evans as being bad for Town but hes spent plenty on players and has promised more again this summer , oh how we could do with somebody like that instead of the pathetic Delia Smith .

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[quote user="shyster"]You probably don''t want my advice, but seriously, if you don''t have a counterargument, please shut the f*ck up.
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What am I supposed to counter? I responded to the OP and the sole response from the one-lined wonder was something he thought to be an insult. Am I supposed to justify myself to him/her? If he has anything sensible to contribute to the thread he has the opportunity to post. He prefers to name call.

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[quote user="Loan City Fc "] I doubt Worthington would have signed Doc to play upfront for the first half of the Premier season if he had the money to go get Crouch . £2 million for a striker when you have just been promoted to the top flight is nothing , yet this Board settled for one season and relegation before a ball was kicked and have done NOTHING to strengthen the team since relegation . We do deserve to be relegated and to some extent that softens the blow a little . This club needs an owner who wants to invest in the team , we all mocked Marcus Evans as being bad for Town but hes spent plenty on players and has promised more again this summer , oh how we could do with somebody like that instead of the pathetic Delia Smith .
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Maybe the priority was promoting the ''Delia Brand''?

Where''s the Far East and Proton when you need them? 

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[quote user="shyster"]My post was addressed to Canary02 III, by the way. The one with the highly imaginative user name. [:P]
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Along with Fence S*itter I''m really getting attacked with the weapons of mass destruction now.

I''m off to bed. I suggest you two lie down as well before you topple over. [;)]

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[quote user="Canary02 III"]

[quote user="shyster"]My post was addressed to Canary02 III, by the way. The one with the highly imaginative user name. [:P]
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Along with Fence S*itter I''m really getting attacked with the weapons of mass destruction now.

I''m off to bed. I suggest you two lie down as well before you topple over. [;)]

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Make sure you lie still....

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[quote user="kiwiNCFC"]Yeh it was stupid they did the promotion party outside city hall in school hours! I pretended i had the dentist and my mum picked me up from school and took me :) it was very hot and sunny that day!I love watching that dvd though, brings back good memories and we played some really good footy[/quote]Hmm that''s funny because I distinctly remember it was in the evening......

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