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Turners talk about Norwich departure

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So they didn''t see the crash coming eh? Funny everybody else did as early as April. Porky pies

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[quote user="Kim Briscoe"]

We''ve been asking them this question ever since they left.........................

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Well done you [;)]

''Football matters'' hey? They must know that stating that as the reason for their departure is bound to set tongues wagging. Funny how they choose to let everyone know this fact the day after Central Trust announces that ninety jobs may go. The plot thickens [^o)]

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There is no doubt in my mind there were reasons other than the credit crunch for their departure.

After all, they could have still stayed on in their capacity without putting any more money in to the club at that time.

Anyone noticing the body language between the Turners and Smiths in the Gunn Club would have come to the conclusion they were not best buddies.

So, we now have the Turners and Cullum saying one thing and the ''board, saying another. Take your pick.

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What was the point of that story? It said absolutely nothing. 

If the intention of the piece was to start speculation again as to what really happened it has succeeded. Or perhaps it was a lame attempt to sell newspapers or to get hits on the website.

In every other aspect of reporting it was a complete failure.

 

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To be fair Tim at least they have been asking the questions. We can''t moan at them for not asking the questions then moan at them when they do.

It can''t be helped if Turner''s won''t say more than this. Just as with Cullum and Doncaster you can''t force people to reveal all.

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Well done you''ve been asking people who''ve already jumped ship questions, why not start asking the current incumbents some now?

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You''d think that after the debacle of Cullumgate, Archant would learn what is and isn''t a story.  This is the latter.  It says nothing new and adds nothing to the debate other than giving rise to further speculation.Forget the Turners, Archant, and maybe start asking our current board the probing questions, yeah?What''s that? They won''t let you? Oh very dear...

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[quote user="jbghost"]The Turners came into the club for one reason only. They were the front men for Cullum who let them down as much as everyone else.[/quote]

jesus wept.

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Think the Turners themselves are hardly a big loss.  By the time the financial meltdown has finished, their £200m finance business will not be worth much at all and most of their personal wealth will go with it.

The problem is more what this is indicative of - wealthy individuals not wanting to be involved with the club as it stands.

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IncH_HigH wrote the following post at 04/03/2009 9:47 AM:

Hardly worth the read. Doesn''t reveal anything other than trying to silence the staff they are laying off who may say they wasted money.

 

 

I think it tells us exactly where the problem is as they say it had nothing to do with their business and was a private matter between them and the board.  

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See the usual suspects are poo-pooing the article whilst completely missing one very key point clearly made within.When asked if the pair left Carrow Road because the recession was

taking its toll on their business, Mr Turner simply said: “The decision

to leave the football club was due to football matters.
Guess this completely disproves the assumption made by those such as Cam, JBG, IBA and several others and repeated ad infinitum on this board that the ''credit crunch'' was to blame.

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At the same time, given their now precarious financial situation and reliance on investors would hardly expect them to say ''we left NCFC as our company might be going belly up and need to concentrate on saving our cash''

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[quote user="ridgeman"]

IncH_HigH wrote the following post at 04/03/2009 9:47 AM:

Hardly worth the read. Doesn''t reveal anything other than trying to silence the staff they are laying off who may say they wasted money.

 

 

I think it tells us exactly where the problem is as they say it had nothing to do with their business and was a private matter between them and the board.  

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The problem is that the papers just get spin from all parties, the board, Cullum and now the Turners and, because they simply print it without any real questioning it then becomes fact by default.

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same old ''I''m a real fan'' drivel from Mr Turner,  that 2 million loan rug that was pulled away costing us a striker and possibly relegation is not the behaviour any real fan would make, regardless of any behind the scenes falling out...I''ll keep my full feelings towards the Turners to myself out of not wishing to offend anyone.

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From a purely speculative perspective I would guess that the Turners are not people who are used to being a big part of something without having the overall control of it, an accusation which could probably be levelled at the majority owners as well. Petty politics dividing the two would-be first-couples methinks. What a pity the kids never learned how to play nicely and share in the playground.

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So most pro-boarders stated as a fact that the Turners left due to the credit crunch, they come out and deny this and basically state there was a falling-out and it`s branded a "non-story"?!  Just yet more evidence that we have owners who are control freaks and it`s "their way or no-way".  Well we`ve all seen the end result of their way.

Interesting that the Turners should come out with this statement just at a time when anti-board sentiment has reached an all-time high IMO.

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[quote user="Mr.Carrow"]

So most pro-boarders stated as a fact that the Turners left due to the credit crunch, they come out and deny this and basically state there was a falling-out and it`s branded a "non-story"?!  Just yet more evidence that we have owners who are control freaks and it`s "their way or no-way".  Well we`ve all seen the end result of their way.

Interesting that the Turners should come out with this statement just at a time when anti-board sentiment has reached an all-time high IMO.

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I think most people find it interesting they should come out with this statement on the day it is publically declared thier business is going tits up.

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[quote user="Kim Briscoe"]

We''ve been asking them this question ever since they left.........................

http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/content/News/story.aspx?brand=ENOnline&category=News&tBrand=enonline&tCategory=news&itemid=NOED04%20Mar%202009%2007%3A46%3A24%3A653

[/quote]Yes and this article still really doesn''t give an answer. What was the point of even posting this??

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[quote user="jbghost"][quote user="Mr.Carrow"]

So most pro-boarders stated as a fact that the Turners left due to the credit crunch, they come out and deny this and basically state there was a falling-out and it`s branded a "non-story"?!  Just yet more evidence that we have owners who are control freaks and it`s "their way or no-way".  Well we`ve all seen the end result of their way.

Interesting that the Turners should come out with this statement just at a time when anti-board sentiment has reached an all-time high IMO.

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I think most people find it interesting they should come out with this statement on the day it is publically declared thier business is going tits up.

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I don''t think the two are separate - they were giving a press conference about having to make a large number of staff redundant and obviously the EDP felt it was appropriate to ask about a completely unrelated matter and then spin the article so it sounded like it was almost solely an NCFC ''exclusive''. Never mind the fact that yet more Norwich people are losing their jobs. Nice one.

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It''s quite easy from the story in the paper to work out for yourselves what actually happened.

The Turners had a big fall out with Delia!!. The Turners will only get their £ 2.5 million loan back if Delia sells the club. After Delia said the price was £56 million the Turners knew the club would never be sold.  When Delia wouldn''t even negoiate with Peter Cullum, that was the final straw. That''s the only way the Turners will get their money back, unless we gain promotion to the prem before the year 2017.

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All very interesting. Seems someone else fell out with Smith and Jones in the way the football side was being run!

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[quote user="jbghost"]The Turners came into the club for one reason only. They were the front men for Cullum who let them down as much as everyone else.[/quote]

are you ever going to post anything other than conjecture on here?

jas :)

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[quote user="jas the barclay king"]

[quote user="jbghost"]The Turners came into the club for one reason only. They were the front men for Cullum who let them down as much as everyone else.[/quote]

are you ever going to post anything other than conjecture on here?

jas :)

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As opposed to the well researched hard facts that are the general currency of this board Jas? Its much more fun to take some vague comments and then fill the gaps in according to your personal predeliction.[:D]

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