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In 1974-75.

Back into the top tier at the first time of asking.

Who remembers that?

We had balls in those days.

Having balls makes the difference..........

OTBC

 

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[quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]

In 1974-75.

Back into the top tier at the first time of asking.

Who remembers that?

We had balls in those days.

Having balls makes the difference..........

OTBC

 

[/quote]

 

And passing Chelsea coming the other way! Bondo''s first season and expansive football being played. Yes, I remember it well!

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[quote user="Beauseant"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]

In 1974-75.

Back into the top tier at the first time of asking.

Who remembers that?

We had balls in those days.

Having balls makes the difference..........

OTBC

[/quote]

And passing Chelsea coming the other way! Bondo''s first season and expansive football being played. Yes, I remember it well!

[/quote]

A board with balls and a manager with panache.

Quite a combination.

OTBC

 

 

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Moreover, the next season those three teams stayed up (Man Utd finished 3rd, we finished 10th and Villa 16th) and all three stayed in the top flight for five consecutive seasons. Then we were relegated in 1980/81. Given the way the economics of the game have changed, it''s highly unlikely that three promoted teams could survive that long in the current Premiership.

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[quote user="PurpleCanary"]Moreover, the next season those three teams stayed up (Man Utd finished 3rd, we finished 10th and Villa 16th) and all three stayed in the top flight for five consecutive seasons. Then we were relegated in 1980/81. Given the way the economics of the game have changed, it''s highly unlikely that three promoted teams could survive that long in the current Premiership.[/quote]Is that any different now than then? I don''t seem to remember teams promoted from Division Two having an easier time then. If one continues to look hard enough, one can always find an excuse........

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The fact it was Manchester United and Aston Villa being promoted with us just shows how much the game has changed now,  Pre Sky TV there was little difference between any side in the top two divisions. When we were promoted you didn''t fear playing any side and expected to win every home game.

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[quote user="jbghost"]The fact it was Manchester United and Aston Villa being promoted with us just shows how much the game has changed now,  Pre Sky TV there was little difference between any side in the top two divisions. When we were promoted you didn''t fear playing any side and expected to win every home game.[/quote]

A completely different game and closer between clubs even between divisions, something which will never, ever come again.

You can relive your excellent moment here but, as previously commented, look at the amount of goals scored and conceded.  It wasn''t chess in those days.

http://www.rsssf.com/engpaul/FLA/1974-75.html

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It was a mans game played by (mostly) men.

Tackling was allowed as was going for 50/50 balls and shoulder charging and......

They have taken all the oomph out of the game.

If the takeover by the French is completed then we will have to make do with no contact what so ever.

Then of course there is the money. Would you want your expensive tan and new hairdo spoilt by some rough type[;)]

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[quote user="astrodyne"][quote user="PurpleCanary"]Moreover, the next season those three teams stayed up (Man Utd finished 3rd, we finished 10th and Villa 16th) and all three stayed in the top flight for five consecutive seasons. Then we were relegated in 1980/81. Given the way the economics of the game have changed, it''s highly unlikely that three promoted teams could survive that long in the current Premiership.[/quote]Is that any different now than then? I don''t seem to remember teams promoted from Division Two having an easier time then. If one continues to look hard enough, one can always find an excuse........ [/quote]Yes, it IS different now. Unless I have miscounted, only twice since the Premier League started have all three teams managed to stay up the next season, and I would be very surprised if it has ever been the case that three teams promoted together have then managed to stay up for five consecutive seasons.Given that I am baffled as to how you could possibly interpret my original post as being an attempt at some kind of excuse.

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[quote user="PurpleCanary"]I would be very surprised if it has ever been the case that three teams promoted together have then managed to stay up for five consecutive seasons.[/quote]Sorry to be a total anorak but Blackburn, Bolton and Fulham were all promoted together in 2000-01 and have all been in the top-flight ever since.

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[quote user="Graham Humphrey"][quote user="PurpleCanary"]I would be very surprised if it has ever been the case that three teams promoted together have then managed to stay up for five consecutive seasons.[/quote]Sorry to be a total anorak but Blackburn, Bolton and Fulham were all promoted together in 2000-01 and have all been in the top-flight ever since.[/quote]Graham, thanks for the information. I should have gone to the trouble of checking myself, since I prefer fact-based arguments. I do think that since it has only happened once (and is probably increasingly less likely to happen again) it is fair to regard that as the exception that proves the rule. Just as one example, we went up with Palace and WBA. We and Palace went straight down, and WBA the next season.

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[quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]

In 1974-75.

Back into the top tier at the first time of asking.

Who remembers that?

We had balls in those days.

Having balls makes the difference..........

OTBC

 

[/quote]

I was stationed in Tidworth at the time and went to Portsmouth and won 3-0 if memory correct and won promotion with that result. Great day out.

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[quote user="BGGYPOS"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]

In 1974-75.

Back into the top tier at the first time of asking.

Who remembers that?

We had balls in those days.

Having balls makes the difference..........

OTBC

 

[/quote]

I was stationed in Tidworth at the time and went to Portsmouth and won 3-0 if memory correct and won promotion with that result. Great day out.

[/quote]

I was at that game too! Mascot coaches from Bell Avenue. And what a great day it was. We stood on their open terrace in glorious sunshine, even got sunburnt, watching our wonderful attacking team register that 3-0 win. Goals from McGuire, Peters and Boyer and then the news that Villa had beaten Sunderland meant the celebrations could begin.

There’s some interesting points made on this thread. In my opinion those who deny it was easier for promoted clubs to stay up in those days are wrong. Football was much different and much fairer. Just look back in the record books and it will jump out at you. 74/5 us, Man.U and Villa got promoted and stayed up. 75/6 WBA and Bristol C stayed up and only Sunderland went straight back down. In 76/7 Wolves Chelsea and Forest all stayed up. In fact Forest went on to win the League that season and then the European Cup the following season. In 77/8 Bolton, Southampton and Spurs all stayed up. And again in 79/80 where Palace, Brighton and Stoke all survived. So in that 5 year period 14 of the 15 promoted clubs all survived their first season, not just the likes of Man.Utd and Spurs but also the Brightons and Bristol City’s. But in the last five seasons almost 30 years later 9 of the promoted clubs failed to survive that first season. Of course this reflects the dominance of the top clubs at the other end of the table where in those seasons back in the 70’s 10 different clubs occupied the top 4 positions but in the most recent 5 seasons only 5 have.

But there you have it, those figures suggest that a promoted team is 9 times less likely to survive than 30 years ago. Are they right, or is it a case of lies, damn lies and statistics?

 

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I was at university at Warwick and couldn''t get down to Portsmouth so I went with some Sunderland supporting friends to Villa Park and watch them beat Sunderland 2-0.  that win  sealed our promotion and I was very uncomfortable amongst my friends and thousands of disconsolate Geordies.  Villa bullied their win and it was undeserved but I didn''t care

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[quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="BGGYPOS"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]

In 1974-75.

Back into the top tier at the first time of asking.

Who remembers that?

We had balls in those days.

Having balls makes the difference..........

OTBC

 

[/quote]

I was stationed in Tidworth at the time and went to Portsmouth and won 3-0 if memory correct and won promotion with that result. Great day out.

[/quote]

I was at that game too! Mascot coaches from Bell Avenue. And what a great day it was. We stood on their open terrace in glorious sunshine, even got sunburnt, watching our wonderful attacking team register that 3-0 win. Goals from McGuire, Peters and Boyer and then the news that Villa had beaten Sunderland meant the celebrations could begin.

There’s some interesting points made on this thread. In my opinion those who deny it was easier for promoted clubs to stay up in those days are wrong. Football was much different and much fairer. Just look back in the record books and it will jump out at you. 74/5 us, Man.U and Villa got promoted and stayed up. 75/6 WBA and Bristol C stayed up and only Sunderland went straight back down. In 76/7 Wolves Chelsea and Forest all stayed up. In fact Forest went on to win the League that season and then the European Cup the following season. In 77/8 Bolton, Southampton and Spurs all stayed up. And again in 79/80 where Palace, Brighton and Stoke all survived. So in that 5 year period 14 of the 15 promoted clubs all survived their first season, not just the likes of Man.Utd and Spurs but also the Brightons and Bristol City’s. But in the last five seasons almost 30 years later 9 of the promoted clubs failed to survive that first season. Of course this reflects the dominance of the top clubs at the other end of the table where in those seasons back in the 70’s 10 different clubs occupied the top 4 positions but in the most recent 5 seasons only 5 have.

But there you have it, those figures suggest that a promoted team is 9 times less likely to survive than 30 years ago. Are they right, or is it a case of lies, damn lies and statistics?

 

[/quote]

Ah,good to see you can do a post without your pal Worthy in it Nutty.Yes i was there that day as well.John Bond was different class with his charisma and style.

Just as an aside isn''t it good that us old timers on here can have a thread without the use of foul and abusive language.Probably because the young uns haven''t a clue who and what we are talking about.

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I was there too! I remember in those days I thought supporting Norwich would always be like that. Ho hum.

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Did their also seem to be far more characters in the game then?

It''s becone so much stereotyped difficult to find anybody who stands out these days.

Every team seemed to have several players who stood out and could be relied upon to "add interest"

Trying to remember who it was who after tackling each other sat in the middle of the pitch and pretended a quick kiss! (thought of Curry and Marsh) anybody help with this one.

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Did their also seem to be far more characters in the game then?

It''s becone so much stereotyped difficult to find anybody who stands out these days.

Every team seemed to have several players who stood out and could be relied upon to "add interest"

Trying to remember who it was who after tackling each other sat in the middle of the pitch and pretended a quick kiss! (thought of Curry and Marsh) anybody help with this one.

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I think there were more "characters" in the old days.  A story told me by a man who played three times for you - the man mountain goalkeeper Joe Corrigan.  He was playing against Norman bites yer legs Hunter who cut in from an angle and hit a shot which Joe saved comfortably.

He says Hunter turned to the ref and said: "When you are going to do something about him ref?  Bloody cheat.  Everytime he plays I can''t see the effin goal..........."

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[quote user="The Butler"]

Did their also seem to be far more characters in the game then?

It''s becone so much stereotyped difficult to find anybody who stands out these days.

Every team seemed to have several players who stood out and could be relied upon to "add interest"

Trying to remember who it was who after tackling each other sat in the middle of the pitch and pretended a quick kiss! (thought of Curry and Marsh) anybody help with this one.

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You''re quite right, it was Tony Currie and Rodney Marsh (obviously taking a break from knocking off Alec Stock''s daughter).

Lots of character, and huge fan favourites (because players were at clubs for years). Alan Woodward at Sheff U, David Wagstaffe at Hull and Harry Cripps at Milwall (remember seeing him miss a penalty, which was very rare for him, at Carrow Road one night) all spring to mind.

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I remember it well, my first ever away game. My second was the 3-1 win at Anfield the following season, happy days, I thought it was mandatory for Norwich to score three goals at away matches I attended.

However regular away games over the next few seasons changed all that.

 

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I remember it well, my first ever away game. My second was the 3-1 win at Anfield the following season, happy days, I thought it was mandatory for Norwich to score three goals at away matches I attended.

However regular away games over the next few seasons changed all that.

 

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Too right they did PKC! If I remember rightly we went 2 whole years without an away league win. I think we won the first game of the season in 1977 and repeated the trick in 1979 but didn''t win an away game between the two!

 

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[quote user="Kathy"]I was there too! I remember in those days I thought supporting Norwich would always be like that. Ho hum.[/quote]

Yes Kathy, those were good days as we felt we belonged to the team but in another way those times were pretty scary.

That day I sat in the Main Stand, but, alongside the fabulous 3-0 win and promotion, I remember the match as one long battle between Pompey and City hooligans. The atmosphere was tense outside the ground before the game and for some strange reason the police decided to escort a group of City fans through the home end to the open terrace down the side. All hell broke loose as the City fans were chased out to eventually re-appear in the right place. But by then everyone was wound up and gangs of supporters roamed around at will on the open terrace and fights broke out everywhere.

I thought that the safest post-match plan would be to have a couple of drinks in the nearby Southsea and get a later train back to London where I''d recently moved. Good plan in theory but sadly went pear-shaped as when I got back to Waterloo I was so p*ssed I couldn''t remember how to get home.

I spent a pleasant night sharing a bench with a tramp at Waterloo Station......

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[quote user="Kathy"]I was there too! I remember in those days I thought supporting Norwich would always be like that. Ho hum.[/quote]

Yes Kathy, those were good days as we felt we belonged to the team but in another way those times were pretty scary.

That day I sat in the Main Stand, but, alongside the fabulous 3-0 win and promotion, I remember the match as one long battle between Pompey and City hooligans. The atmosphere was tense outside the ground before the game and for some strange reason the police decided to escort a group of City fans through the home end to the open terrace down the side. All hell broke loose as the City fans were chased out to eventually re-appear in the right place. But by then everyone was wound up and gangs of supporters roamed around at will on the open terrace and fights broke out everywhere.

I thought that the safest post-match plan would be to have a couple of drinks in the nearby Southsea and get a later train back to London where I''d recently moved. Good plan in theory but sadly went pear-shaped as when I got back to Waterloo I was so p*ssed I couldn''t remember how to get home.

I spent a pleasant night sharing a bench with a tramp at Waterloo Station......

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Yes me too,I remember those days,brings a lump to the throat, wish I could get my hands round someones throat now, I think gone are the days when other teams were dreading meeting us. 

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[quote user="......and Smith must score."]

[quote user="Kathy"]I was there too! I remember in those days I thought supporting Norwich would always be like that. Ho hum.[/quote]

Yes Kathy, those were good days as we felt we belonged to the team but in another way those times were pretty scary.

That day I sat in the Main Stand, but, alongside the fabulous 3-0 win and promotion, I remember the match as one long battle between Pompey and City hooligans. The atmosphere was tense outside the ground before the game and for some strange reason the police decided to escort a group of City fans through the home end to the open terrace down the side. All hell broke loose as the City fans were chased out to eventually re-appear in the right place. But by then everyone was wound up and gangs of supporters roamed around at will on the open terrace and fights broke out everywhere.

I thought that the safest post-match plan would be to have a couple of drinks in the nearby Southsea and get a later train back to London where I''d recently moved. Good plan in theory but sadly went pear-shaped as when I got back to Waterloo I was so p*ssed I couldn''t remember how to get home.

I spent a pleasant night sharing a bench with a tramp at Waterloo Station......

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When we look back at those days that''s a side of it I try to forget. You''re right ASMS, there were some scarey gangs about that day and I remember they announced that our coaches had been moved and after the game we got lost. While trying to find the coahes and avoid the trouble we came to a pub we recognised from the journey in and luckily a Mascot Coach was coming past. We waved it down and got home on it even though it wasn''t the bus we came on. Make no mistake, those away trips in the 70''s and 80''s were scarey not anying to be proud of, and I''m glad it''s not like that anymore.

 

 

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Almost-the famous kiss was between Tony Currie, then at Sheffield United and Alan Birchenhall of Leicester.

Caused quite a rumpus at the time, great footballing days, most clubs had at least one "known" or character player, the league champs that season-Derby-lost ten games!!

Ten! They reckon you can only afford to lose 3-4 in the Prem and you''ve blown your chance of winning it!

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[quote user="TIL 1010"][quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="BGGYPOS"][quote user="BlyBlyBabes"]

In 1974-75.

Back into the top tier at the first time of asking.

Who remembers that?

We had balls in those days.

Having balls makes the difference..........

OTBC

 

[/quote]

I was stationed in Tidworth at the time and went to Portsmouth and won 3-0 if memory correct and won promotion with that result. Great day out.

[/quote]

I was at that game too! Mascot coaches from Bell Avenue. And what a great day it was. We stood on their open terrace in glorious sunshine, even got sunburnt, watching our wonderful attacking team register that 3-0 win. Goals from McGuire, Peters and Boyer and then the news that Villa had beaten Sunderland meant the celebrations could begin.

There’s some interesting points made on this thread. In my opinion those who deny it was easier for promoted clubs to stay up in those days are wrong. Football was much different and much fairer. Just look back in the record books and it will jump out at you. 74/5 us, Man.U and Villa got promoted and stayed up. 75/6 WBA and Bristol C stayed up and only Sunderland went straight back down. In 76/7 Wolves Chelsea and Forest all stayed up. In fact Forest went on to win the League that season and then the European Cup the following season. In 77/8 Bolton, Southampton and Spurs all stayed up. And again in 79/80 where Palace, Brighton and Stoke all survived. So in that 5 year period 14 of the 15 promoted clubs all survived their first season, not just the likes of Man.Utd and Spurs but also the Brightons and Bristol City’s. But in the last five seasons almost 30 years later 9 of the promoted clubs failed to survive that first season. Of course this reflects the dominance of the top clubs at the other end of the table where in those seasons back in the 70’s 10 different clubs occupied the top 4 positions but in the most recent 5 seasons only 5 have.

But there you have it, those figures suggest that a promoted team is 9 times less likely to survive than 30 years ago. Are they right, or is it a case of lies, damn lies and statistics?

 

[/quote]

Ah,good to see you can do a post without your pal Worthy in it Nutty.Yes i was there that day as well.John Bond was different class with his charisma and style.

Just as an aside isn''t it good that us old timers on here can have a thread without the use of foul and abusive language.Probably because the young uns haven''t a clue who and what we are talking about.

[/quote]

Was any of you in the pub close to the ground that was owned by a city man as it was packed out with our supporters. A bit hairy when a load of Pompey supporters went by egging people on, then suddenly glasses, bottles and what elde went flying across the road at them. Also at the end of the game when the Pompey main end just emptied and came running across the pitch at the away support. However a great day out.[:)]

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