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[quote user="Bobert"][quote user="1st Wizard"]

Forget she''s a Z list celebrity, forget she''s a woman, she is destroying NCFC with her ''damn little old Norwich'' mentality and prudence with everything crap.

Until she is relenlessily booed and hounded at Carrow Road, nothing will ever change, fans ran Chase out, the witch can be run out too...........its your choice.

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You talk absolute tosh Wiz. There are only half a dozen clubs capable of competing for silverware in England and the rest of the clubs, their fans and their owners are there for the fun of it. Saturday at Carrow Road is  a great day win or loose. The last thing we want is rabble rousers like your self spoiling the fun and making the place unsafe for families, old folk, women and children with your "relenless" booing and hounding. Frankly I think your rant is incitment to violence which is a criminal offence and I believe the police should investigate your call.

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 People come to the games and enjoy them (even when we lose). Some people travel a long way to watch these games (i do) and i dont think its fair for you lot to sit there booing all the way through the game when people are enjoying it. I can the piont people are making about Delia but she has put a lot of money into the club and if we "run her out" then i dont see where we will get the money (like she gave us) from.

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[quote user="Evil Monkey"][quote user="Camuldonum"]As I understand any loans made by Smith & Co and the Turners and the Bank (s) are immediately repayable on any change of ownership.  You are a PLC.

So who is going to pay that?[/quote]

The NCFC Kitty? [:D]

Its a sad indication of the level of sanity that currently grips this board that the most reasoned and sensible post comes from a Colchester supporting, hack reporter [;)]

We''ve said it many times before, of course, to the Smudgers and the Clucks of this world, but it won''t get through.  "Someone will step in" is always the answer and I''m afraid their belief in the mythical Hercules that waits to slay the Amazon.com Woman is unswerving.

Btw, am I the only one who thinks Bobert was being sarcastic??

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"Btw, am I the only one who thinks Bobert was being sarcastic??"

Y''mean, taking the ''pith'' like his pussycat''s helmet?

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[quote user="Evil Monkey"][quote user="Camuldonum"]As I understand any loans made by Smith & Co and the Turners and the Bank (s) are immediately repayable on any change of ownership.  You are a PLC.

So who is going to pay that?[/quote]

The NCFC Kitty? [:D]

Its a sad indication of the level of sanity that currently grips this board that the most reasoned and sensible post comes from a Colchester supporting, hack reporter [;)]

We''ve said it many times before, of course, to the Smudgers and the Clucks of this world, but it won''t get through.  "Someone will step in" is always the answer and I''m afraid their belief in the mythical Hercules that waits to slay the Amazon.com Woman is unswerving.

Btw, am I the only one who thinks Bobert was being sarcastic??

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"Btw, am I the only one who thinks Bobert was being sarcastic??"

Y''mean, taking the ''pith'' like his pussycats helmet?

Actually ''no-one'' would probably perform better than our present incumbents.......Ever seen a busy junction that has traffic lights that fail? Suddenly the traffic flows smoother - when the lights aren''t functioning....

Been there, Dung that, Cameldung.....Saved Lincoln City from the scrapheap, personally chased Gilbert Blades up ''Cross O'' Cliff Hill'' with his sharpened fountain pen dipped in poisonous ink and drinks bottled water from Sincil Drain. He doesn''t attend the Imp''s or Col U games, but is there in spirit in his empty seat - and his ''season ticket''s purchased due to pure passion'' .....He''s apparently Chief Editor for the Financial Times don''t ya know.....Hang on? No he isn''t! He''s just a two bit hack seeking attention on a football message board....With a few scribblings of ''Tales of the blatantly obvious wisdom''....But he certainly knows his veg! You don''t get to his lofty position as self-appointed ''Oracle of All'' and ''Tabloid Trunky'' if you don''t know your onions from your bunions!

Fug me! Piss poor Piers Morgan used to do the tacky music page in the Sun....Look at him now! He''s the new Simon Cowell!

  


 

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[quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Evil Monkey"][quote user="Camuldonum"]As I understand any loans made by Smith & Co and the Turners and the Bank (s) are immediately repayable on any change of ownership.  You are a PLC.

So who is going to pay that?[/quote]

The NCFC Kitty? [:D]

Its a sad indication of the level of sanity that currently grips this board that the most reasoned and sensible post comes from a Colchester supporting, hack reporter [;)]

We''ve said it many times before, of course, to the Smudgers and the Clucks of this world, but it won''t get through.  "Someone will step in" is always the answer and I''m afraid their belief in the mythical Hercules that waits to slay the Amazon.com Woman is unswerving.

Btw, am I the only one who thinks Bobert was being sarcastic??

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"Btw, am I the only one who thinks Bobert was being sarcastic??"

Y''mean, taking the ''pith'' like his pussycats helmet?

Actually ''no-one'' would probably perform better than our present incumbents.......Ever seen a busy junction that has traffic lights that fail? Suddenly the traffic flows smoother - when the lights aren''t functioning....

Been there, Dung that, Cameldung.....Saved Lincoln City from the scrapheap, personally chased Gilbert Blades up ''Cross O'' Cliff Hill'' with his sharpened fountain pen dipped in poisonous ink and drinks bottled water from Sincil Drain. He doesn''t attend the Imp''s or Col U games, but is there in spirit in his empty seat - and his ''season ticket''s purchased due to pure passion'' .....He''s apparently Chief Editor for the Financial Times don''t ya know.....Hang on? No he isn''t! He''s just a two bit hack seeking attention on a football message board....With a few scribblings of ''Tales of the blatantly obvious wisdom''....But he certainly knows his veg! You don''t get to his lofty position as self-appointed ''Oracle of All'' and ''Tabloid Trunky'' if you don''t know your onions from your bunions!

Fug me! Piss poor Piers Morgan used to do the tacky music page in the Sun....Look at him now! He''s the new Simon Cowell!

  


 

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Hilarious. Cam posts something that''s well written and full of common sense and you come back with a string of nonsense. Comedy Mello, how funny you are.

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[quote user="Canary02 III"][quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="Evil Monkey"][quote user="Camuldonum"]As I understand any loans made by Smith & Co and the Turners and the Bank (s) are immediately repayable on any change of ownership.  You are a PLC.

So who is going to pay that?[/quote]

The NCFC Kitty? [:D]

Its a sad indication of the level of sanity that currently grips this board that the most reasoned and sensible post comes from a Colchester supporting, hack reporter [;)]

We''ve said it many times before, of course, to the Smudgers and the Clucks of this world, but it won''t get through.  "Someone will step in" is always the answer and I''m afraid their belief in the mythical Hercules that waits to slay the Amazon.com Woman is unswerving.

Btw, am I the only one who thinks Bobert was being sarcastic??

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"Btw, am I the only one who thinks Bobert was being sarcastic??"

Y''mean, taking the ''pith'' like his pussycats helmet?

Actually ''no-one'' would probably perform better than our present incumbents.......Ever seen a busy junction that has traffic lights that fail? Suddenly the traffic flows smoother - when the lights aren''t functioning....

Been there, Dung that, Cameldung.....Saved Lincoln City from the scrapheap, personally chased Gilbert Blades up ''Cross O'' Cliff Hill'' with his sharpened fountain pen dipped in poisonous ink and drinks bottled water from Sincil Drain. He doesn''t attend the Imp''s or Col U games, but is there in spirit in his empty seat - and his ''season ticket''s purchased due to pure passion'' .....He''s apparently Chief Editor for the Financial Times don''t ya know.....Hang on? No he isn''t! He''s just a two bit hack seeking attention on a football message board....With a few scribblings of ''Tales of the blatantly obvious wisdom''....But he certainly knows his veg! You don''t get to his lofty position as self-appointed ''Oracle of All'' and ''Tabloid Trunky'' if you don''t know your onions from your bunions!

Fug me! Piss poor Piers Morgan used to do the tacky music page in the Sun....Look at him now! He''s the new Simon Cowell!

  


 

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Hilarious. Cam posts something that''s well written and full of common sense and you come back with a string of nonsense. Comedy Mello, how funny you are.

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Yup, that''s me!

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Ackney Canary wrote:
This is comically naive by anyone''s standards. If I stop paying the mortgage on my house, will someone just arrive as if from heaven to continue the payments
?

Oh is it?

Yes you would lose your house, but then it would be sold to someone else, thats the point![:|]

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[quote user="Camuldonum"][quote user="1st Wizard"]

Forget she''s a Z list celebrity, forget she''s a woman, she is destroying NCFC with her ''damn little old Norwich'' mentality and prudence with everything crap.

Until she is relenlessily booed and hounded at Carrow Road, nothing will ever change, fans ran Chase out, the witch can be run out too...........its your choice.

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With the greatest of respect if you are going to get a Board out you need a replacement Board waiting in the wings FIRST with the money in place and Bank Guarantees of funding. 

If you just want to force a Board out, assuming that is even possible, your major creditors will simply move in to protect their own situation as would I.

Board Out won''t work until you have a shadow Board IN all lined up and copper bottomed.

Been there, done that.

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With respect Cam, you know bugger all of Citys heritage, no one was in the wings during the Chase days!

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[quote user="1st Wizard"]

Ackney Canary wrote:
This is comically naive by anyone''s standards. If I stop paying the mortgage on my house, will someone just arrive as if from heaven to continue the payments
?

Oh is it?

Yes you would lose your house, but then it would be sold to someone else, thats the point![:|]

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Would they?

Lots of property remains unsold.

Or is bought buy someone looking for a quick profit.

None of the above would help us

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[quote user="city4eva"][quote user="1st Wizard"]

Ackney Canary wrote:
This is comically naive by anyone''s standards. If I stop paying the mortgage on my house, will someone just arrive as if from heaven to continue the payments
?

Oh is it?

Yes you would lose your house, but then it would be sold to someone else, thats the point![:|]

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Would they?

Lots of property remains unsold.

Or is bought buy someone looking for a quick profit.

None of the above would help us

[/quote]

Even Acrington Stanly rose from the ashes, name me one club no longer in excistance?

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[quote user="1st Wizard"][quote user="city4eva"][quote user="1st Wizard"]

Ackney Canary wrote:This is comically naive by anyone''s standards. If I stop paying the mortgage on my house, will someone just arrive as if from heaven to continue the payments?

Oh is it?

Yes you would lose your house, but then it would be sold to someone else, thats the point![:|]

[/quote]

 

Would they?

Lots of property remains unsold.

Or is bought buy someone looking for a quick profit.

None of the above would help us

[/quote]

Even Acrington Stanly rose from the ashes, name me one club no longer in excistance?

[/quote]Aberdare Athletic!

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[quote user="PurpleCanary"][quote user="1st Wizard"][quote user="city4eva"][quote user="1st Wizard"]

Ackney Canary wrote:
This is comically naive by anyone''s standards. If I stop paying the mortgage on my house, will someone just arrive as if from heaven to continue the payments
?

Oh is it?

Yes you would lose your house, but then it would be sold to someone else, thats the point![:|]

[/quote]

 

Would they?

Lots of property remains unsold.

Or is bought buy someone looking for a quick profit.

None of the above would help us

[/quote]

Even Acrington Stanly rose from the ashes, name me one club no longer in excistance?

[/quote]

Aberdare Athletic!
[/quote]

Lol..............now try one English pro club![:D]

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[quote user="1st Wizard"][quote user="PurpleCanary"][quote user="1st Wizard"][quote user="city4eva"][quote user="1st Wizard"]

Ackney Canary wrote:This is comically naive by anyone''s standards. If I stop paying the mortgage on my house, will someone just arrive as if from heaven to continue the payments?

Oh is it?

Yes you would lose your house, but then it would be sold to someone else, thats the point![:|]

[/quote]

 

Would they?

Lots of property remains unsold.

Or is bought buy someone looking for a quick profit.

None of the above would help us

[/quote]

Even Acrington Stanly rose from the ashes, name me one club no longer in excistance?

[/quote]Aberdare Athletic![/quote]

Lol..............now try one English pro club![:D]

[/quote]Burton Swifts FC!New Brighton Tower FC!!Middlesbrough Ironopolis FC!!!PS. Slumming it on the official board, First Wizard?

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[quote user="1st Wizard"]

[quote user="Broken_hearted_canary"]She goes - who replaces the cash she/her brand gives us.[/quote]

There is always someone, always!

[/quote]THERE ISNT.its why she hasnt gonebecause nobody can affor to be investing in clubs...its happening at every level where investors are leaving clubs,.she is still here because nobody else wants us.

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[quote user="bryan baldie baldric"][quote user="1st Wizard"]

[quote user="Broken_hearted_canary"]She goes - who replaces the cash she/her brand gives us.[/quote]

There is always someone, always!

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THERE ISNT.
its why she hasnt gone
because nobody can affor to be investing in clubs...
its happening at every level where investors are leaving clubs,.
she is still here because nobody else wants us.
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Wrong! Kings Lynn have new investors!

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[quote user="PurpleCanary"][quote user="1st Wizard"][quote user="PurpleCanary"][quote user="1st Wizard"][quote user="city4eva"][quote user="1st Wizard"]

Ackney Canary wrote:
This is comically naive by anyone''s standards. If I stop paying the mortgage on my house, will someone just arrive as if from heaven to continue the payments
?

Oh is it?

Yes you would lose your house, but then it would be sold to someone else, thats the point![:|]

[/quote]

 

Would they?

Lots of property remains unsold.

Or is bought buy someone looking for a quick profit.

None of the above would help us

[/quote]

Even Acrington Stanly rose from the ashes, name me one club no longer in excistance?

[/quote]

Aberdare Athletic!
[/quote]

Lol..............now try one English pro club![:D]

[/quote]

Burton Swifts FC!

New Brighton Tower FC!!

Middlesbrough Ironopolis FC!!!

PS. Slumming it on the official board, First Wizard?

[/quote]

Remember, you used the word Slumming![:D]

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[quote user="grantroederdisaster"]I''m quite certain that the difference between investing in King''s Lynn and Norwich would be quite substantial![/quote]

Agreed, but the words were ''at any level''............I pointed out the error, thats all.[:|]

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[quote user="1st Wizard"][quote user="bryan baldie baldric"][quote user="1st Wizard"]

[quote user="Broken_hearted_canary"]She goes - who replaces the cash she/her brand gives us.[/quote]

There is always someone, always!

[/quote]THERE ISNT.its why she hasnt gonebecause nobody can affor to be investing in clubs...its happening at every level where investors are leaving clubs,.she is still here because nobody else wants us.[/quote]

Wrong! Kings Lynn have new investors!

[/quote]Possibly dear old King''s Lynn do. But no mega-rich white knight came to the rescue of dear old Aberdare Athletic or dear old Burton Swifts or dear old New Brighton Tower or dear old Middlesbrough Ironopolis!

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[quote user="1st Wizard"][quote user="bryan baldie baldric"][quote user="1st Wizard"]

[quote user="Broken_hearted_canary"]She goes - who replaces the cash she/her brand gives us.[/quote]

There is always someone, always!

[/quote]THERE ISNT.its why she hasnt gonebecause nobody can affor to be investing in clubs...its happening at every level where investors are leaving clubs,.she is still here because nobody else wants us.[/quote]

Wrong! Kings Lynn have new investors!

[/quote]Rightan investor is leaving at the end of the season. because of recession

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[quote user="crafty canary"][quote user="Broken_hearted_canary"][quote user="crafty canary"]

You cut your costs to a level commensurate with your income. You stop speculating in land, pay player salaries that match their abilities and the results they achieve and you cut back on the plethora of off-field employees. For example why the need for a club secretary and a chief executive? Why are we paying more for off-field salaries than we are for the players?

Ousting the trout would not bring the pack of cards crashing down around our ears. If the club was as well run as she likes to make out she wouldn''t need to put money in in the first place.

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Cut player wages then we will not attract championship quality players, perhaps we will find a natural environment where we are financially stable in league 2? Are we paying more for off-field salaries than on field? As far as i understand our playing wage bill s 40% of turnover (correct me if im wrong please) so that means at least 80% of our costs are salaries?

why the need for over paid, under performing, valueless players is more the question.

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You seem confused. Either you agree that we should stop paying salaries that don''t reflect performance or you don''t. To disagree then agree within the same post is an extreme case of fence-sitting it would seem.

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Not really, If we cut player wages we wont attract quality players - I''d call that a fair statement.

Second statement is a seperate one - having over paid, valueless players such as carl robinson, andy Hughes, D Ward & P Gallagher and to an extent J Curo is what i dont like.

Sorry can''t see how these two statements contradict each other.

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[quote user="crafty canary"][quote user="Broken_hearted_canary"][quote user="crafty canary"]

You cut your costs to a level commensurate with your income. You stop speculating in land, pay player salaries that match their abilities and the results they achieve and you cut back on the plethora of off-field employees. For example why the need for a club secretary and a chief executive? Why are we paying more for off-field salaries than we are for the players?

Ousting the trout would not bring the pack of cards crashing down around our ears. If the club was as well run as she likes to make out she wouldn''t need to put money in in the first place.

[/quote]

Cut player wages then we will not attract championship quality players, perhaps we will find a natural environment where we are financially stable in league 2? Are we paying more for off-field salaries than on field? As far as i understand our playing wage bill s 40% of turnover (correct me if im wrong please) so that means at least 80% of our costs are salaries?

why the need for over paid, under performing, valueless players is more the question.

[/quote]

You seem confused. Either you agree that we should stop paying salaries that don''t reflect performance or you don''t. To disagree then agree within the same post is an extreme case of fence-sitting it would seem.

[/quote]

Not really, If we cut player wages we wont attract quality players - I''d call that a fair statement.

Second statement is a seperate one - having over paid, valueless players such as carl robinson, andy Hughes, D Ward & P Gallagher and to an extent J Curo is what i dont like.

Sorry can''t see how these two statements contradict each other.

 

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[quote user="crafty canary"][quote user="Broken_hearted_canary"][quote user="crafty canary"]

You cut your costs to a level commensurate with your income. You stop speculating in land, pay player salaries that match their abilities and the results they achieve and you cut back on the plethora of off-field employees. For example why the need for a club secretary and a chief executive? Why are we paying more for off-field salaries than we are for the players?

Ousting the trout would not bring the pack of cards crashing down around our ears. If the club was as well run as she likes to make out she wouldn''t need to put money in in the first place.

[/quote]

Cut player wages then we will not attract championship quality players, perhaps we will find a natural environment where we are financially stable in league 2? Are we paying more for off-field salaries than on field? As far as i understand our playing wage bill s 40% of turnover (correct me if im wrong please) so that means at least 80% of our costs are salaries?

why the need for over paid, under performing, valueless players is more the question.

[/quote]

You seem confused. Either you agree that we should stop paying salaries that don''t reflect performance or you don''t. To disagree then agree within the same post is an extreme case of fence-sitting it would seem.

[/quote]

Not really, If we cut player wages we wont attract quality players - I''d call that a fair statement.

Second statement is a seperate one - having over paid, valueless players such as carl robinson, andy Hughes, D Ward & P Gallagher and to an extent J Curo is what i dont like.

Sorry can''t see how these two statements contradict each other.

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