Spin Spin City Again 0 Posted January 30, 2009 Discuss? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Holt 512 Posted January 30, 2009 Is it really fair to throw the lad in at the deep end that is a relegation battle?But I agree, he can''t do any worse than what we''ve got at the minute. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,265 Posted January 30, 2009 [quote user="Spin Spin City Again"]Discuss?[/quote]Shot putt?Javelin?Hammer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spin Spin City Again 0 Posted January 30, 2009 I mean Kris as well, I''m just so frustrated with everything I can''t even write! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary Poirot 1 Posted January 30, 2009 Considering Darel Russell is league 2 standard as a striker, then if Kris Renton isn''t good enough to get ahead of Russell, it doesn''t bode well for his career... Signing a centre back and striker before the end of the transfer window is absolutely necessary. If we don''t, the probability of us being in league 1 for the first time in almost 50 years is growing by the day sadly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Shuck 180 Posted January 31, 2009 I don''t like this "he isn''t ready" mentality about younger players that we got from Worthington and Roeder.If he isn''t ready, then he isn''t good enough and why is he (Renton, or anyone) still here? The old adage "if they''re good enough, they''re old enough" is one of the cliches of football, but its spot on.Southampton have thrown kids into their first team in recent years-Walcott, Bale, Surman to name a few.Charlton put a 16 year old in against us, Barnsley have played a winger in their first team who was 15 when he made his debut!Leeds have done so in White and, very notably, Fabian Delph, they are under enormous pressure to go up, but the players have been given the chance-in front of 20''000 plus Leeds fans, now thats tough-and they have taken it.I suspect no-one at those clubs said that they had better not play them as it might be tough, the fans might get on their backs etc etc. The clubd have faith in the players, they have faith in the scouting and coaching networks that has marked them out as good enough for the first team, its then up to the player to respond, he''s a professional footballer, he can either cut it ot he can''t, and, if he''s going to crumble because he has a bad game or some nasty fans have a go at him, then he isn''t going to make it, period.When is the right time to play them? Surely its now as much as at anytime?Renton should have a chance, he''s been around -or so its seems-for ages, he''s over his injury, he got a contract, he now needs a chance to show he is worth it and a new one into the bargain.Ditto the others-Eagle another prime case, still here, still lacking chances and appearences, and with left sided players brought in as well, again, why isn''t he playing or pushing for a place? Is he good enough-then he should be. If he isn''t-ta ta Robert, I suspect that will be the case some May anyway.If Renton is to get a shot, he''ll never have a better chance than now. But if he doesn''t, then he''ll be another one gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salopian 1 Posted January 31, 2009 He had a nasty leg break last year. Perhaps they are concerned about playing him in the Championship where he is likely to be roughed up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silver fox 0 Posted January 31, 2009 Yes he is a much better prospect as a striker than Russell, but I will be amazed if the management allow him to play. It would appear that the new team are following suit and giving those players who got us into this position a chance to get us out. I often hear people say that they might be given a chance once we are safe, but I can see us strugggling right up to the end of the season.A classic opportunity to put Renton on the bench was the home game against Soton, when we had a home crowd of 25,000, but the manager chose to put Bell on the bench, presumably having already agreed to sell him to Coventry.We have got some good youngsters who beat Arsenal in a reserve game, but you need a brave management team to actually give these youngsters a chance. Cureton who is supposedly an accomplished striker, has missed two sitters in the last two games; I would argue that Renton could at least equal that, and he is younger, fitter, faster, and Scottish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJP 79 Posted January 31, 2009 If we had to play a youngster upfront I''d prefer it to be Luke Daley because at least he looks like he''s got the pace to worry teams. Not convinced Kris Renton has got enough about him to make an impact. Whereas Darel Russell, while not being a striker, is an experienced player who will put himself about and can get you a couple of goals.When you look at what other clubs produce Walcott, Delph and Evans for 3 examples and then you look at the youngsters we''ve hyped up in recent times you realise how far away we have been. Although we do have a few young players who look a bit better than some we''ve had over the last few years but still nobody that looks outstanding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canariesaregods 0 Posted January 31, 2009 For anyone who wasn''t there last night darel russell was awful, and the most valuable thing he doen for the team was come off. A player who is distinctly going throught the motions Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tangible Fixed Assets anyone? 0 Posted January 31, 2009 [quote user="Canary Poirot"]Considering Darel Russell is league 2 standard as a striker, then if Kris Renton isn''t good enough to get ahead of Russell, it doesn''t bode well for his career... .[/quote]It probably one of two things:a) Not yet physically ready for regular first team football, it took Bellamy a couple of seasons from 3 sub appearances to being a regularor b) Not a good idea to put a kid into a relegation battle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
city till i die 0 Posted February 1, 2009 i saw kris renton at norwich airport friday night!!!i got on the amsterdam flight, and there was to other flights that night, either to Manchester or Edinburgh, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yorkshire Canary 118 Posted February 1, 2009 Give him a go as sub coming on for the last half hour at home. If he cannot take that then there is little point persisting with him we may be pleasantly surprised Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bobert 0 Posted February 1, 2009 If Norwich had what I consider to be a "proper" Reserve team philosophy of putting out a dozen or so teams graduating in age the problem would not arise in that there would be an older "Reserve" ahead of Renton in age and ability ready to take the "strikers" role. The Reserve teams need to be taken out of the control of the First Team Manager and they should become a "profit centre" (Accountancy jargon for the old Cost Centre) for the club. The Manager(s) of the Reserve Teams would be free to recuit players of all ages under contracts and free to sell them ( Norwich City having first refusal of course). Profits would go to fund expenses and pay the wages of the Reserves and the Managers. The First Team Squad would be free to play for the Reserves but in such cases the Reserves would recive an in house fee and vice versa.All Reserve teams would play at least one match every week against teams of similar quality. The top Reserve team playing at Carrow Road under match day conditions with the winner taking a £500 pot funded by ticket and draw sales. Opposition would be drawn from East Anglian Teams and if necessary from other Norwich City teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Whats a right winger 0 Posted February 1, 2009 Sorry guys, Rents has been out with a knee injury since the end of November and isn''t due back for a while yet...and yes before someone says it would be nice if the club told us Share this post Link to post Share on other sites